●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 ●● ● Jul 14 [00:18] schestowitz https://twitter.com/deadline_chaser/status/1414904721022668807 [00:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@deadline_chaser: https://t.co/vdLSzGfr71 https://t.co/bUeBbxSPCx [00:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Richard Stallman is Coming Back to the Board of the Free Software Foundation, Founded by Himself 35 Years Ago (Updatedx3) | Techrights [00:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> selamjie.medium.com | Remove Richard Stallman. And everyone else horrible in tech. | by Selam G. | Medium [00:19] schestowitz https://twitter.com/Kathysadr1967/status/1415078351254003712 [00:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Kathysadr1967: @schestowitz Think, Schestowitz. You know about Bill Gates and GAVI. Why the f*** do you think these people need what he's selling? [00:19] schestowitz https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1415027265314906115 [00:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz FRAND to nuke free software. [00:19] schestowitz https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1415026756843675650 [00:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz Link? [00:19] schestowitz https://twitter.com/leftylabourtech/status/1415025509033934848 [00:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@leftylabourtech: @schestowitz They're called stenographers, not journalists. [00:20] schestowitz https://twitter.com/ElJefeDSecurIT/status/1415013317676990468 [00:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@ElJefeDSecurIT: @mjg59 @schestowitz Free software costs too much. [00:20] schestowitz https://twitter.com/Kathysadr1967/status/1414992545386532866 [00:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Kathysadr1967: @schestowitz Did you receive my email about Dr. David Martin's evidence? [00:21] schestowitz https://twitter.com/Hueho/status/1414929115573014534 [00:21] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Hueho: @mjg59 @schestowitz people still mad that secure boot isn't the devil [00:21] schestowitz https://twitter.com/Developer122/status/1414893776506482688 [00:21] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Developer122: @mjg59 @schestowitz Tempts me to MIT everything and invent "Generous" ("non-free"!) software. Non-binding pledge t https://t.co/wrSsNly5My [00:21] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Developer122: @mjg59 @schestowitz Tempts me to MIT everything and invent "Generous" ("non-free"!) software. Non-binding pledge t https://t.co/wrSsNly5My [00:21] schestowitz | [00:21] schestowitz Tempts me to MIT everything and invent "Generous" ("non-free"!) software. [00:21] schestowitz Non-binding pledge to "never impose a restriction on what anyone can do with the software." [00:21] schestowitz But clearly that's not "free" enough. [00:21] schestowitz | [00:21] schestowitz https://twitter.com/Developer122/status/1414891584940740609 [00:21] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Developer122: @mjg59 @schestowitz The philosophy of GPL the world to protect everyone from themselves runs deep. Calling it "ethi https://t.co/VT2Ikh3tCa [00:21] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Developer122: @mjg59 @schestowitz The philosophy of GPL the world to protect everyone from themselves runs deep. Calling it "ethi https://t.co/VT2Ikh3tCa [00:21] schestowitz |" [00:21] schestowitz The philosophy of GPL the world to protect everyone from themselves runs deep. Calling it "ethical" too. [00:21] schestowitz (as if automatically branding your actions "free" and "ethical" could NEVER be problematic; just ask "democratic" countries) [00:21] schestowitz | [00:21] schestowitz https://twitter.com/stautistic/status/1414858909794275328 [00:21] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@stautistic: https://t.co/MZbeTs96Ko https://t.co/gQkRRkKLIb [00:21] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Plutocrats and plutophiles ought not travel to space; they should be sent there. Exile. [00:21] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@stautistic: https://t.co/MZbeTs96Ko https://t.co/gQkRRkKLIb [00:22] schestowitz https://twitter.com/LifeLiberty3/status/1414853948419321857 [00:22] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@LifeLiberty3: @schestowitz Jealous progressive politicians and bureaucrats are such losers. [00:22] schestowitz https://twitter.com/__ljrk/status/1414848342396440579 [00:22] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@__ljrk: @mjg59 @schestowitz Ohjeez and the last paragraph trumps (heh) everything. Let's not talk about ... allegations, m https://t.co/ncxFJ9blH3 [00:22] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@__ljrk: @mjg59 @schestowitz Ohjeez and the last paragraph trumps (heh) everything. Let's not talk about ... allegations, m https://t.co/ncxFJ9blH3 [00:22] schestowitz |Ohjeez and the last paragraph trumps (heh) everything. Let's not talk about ... allegations, maybe the issues will resolve itself? What a clown.| [00:23] schestowitz https://twitter.com/__ljrk/status/1414848759205449728 [00:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@__ljrk: @mjg59 @schestowitz And, I mean, I do kinda disagree w/ you in some points on the Copilot issue, but I wish those r https://t.co/dca5AVRvwM [00:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@__ljrk: @mjg59 @schestowitz And, I mean, I do kinda disagree w/ you in some points on the Copilot issue, but I wish those r https://t.co/dca5AVRvwM [00:23] schestowitz | [00:23] schestowitz Leonard Janis Robert Knig [00:23] schestowitz @__ljrk [00:23] schestowitz [00:23] schestowitz 15h [00:23] schestowitz Replying to [00:23] schestowitz @__ljrk [00:23] schestowitz [00:23] schestowitz @mjg59 [00:23] schestowitz and [00:23] schestowitz @schestowitz [00:23] schestowitz And, I mean, I do kinda disagree w/ you in some points on the Copilot issue, but I wish those representing this view wouldn't be apologetic nuts :( [00:23] schestowitz | [00:23] schestowitz https://twitter.com/ClaireKraatz/status/1414836507723010086 [00:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@ClaireKraatz: To fight #Ecocide, we have to criminalize it. I agree. @Indigenous_ca @IENearth @WCELaw @ecojustice_ca #abLeg https://t.co/Q0ciEWRJdO [00:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@ClaireKraatz: To fight #Ecocide, we have to criminalize it. I agree. @Indigenous_ca @IENearth @WCELaw @ecojustice_ca #abLeg https://t.co/Q0ciEWRJdO [00:23] schestowitz https://twitter.com/steubens7/status/1414791988055101441 [00:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@steubens7: @schestowitz couldn't find a newer article? [00:23] schestowitz https://twitter.com/SelfDrivingCarp/status/1414783239533727750 [00:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SelfDrivingCarp: @danparsons @mjg59 @schestowitz Some people define themselves primarily through the things they're opposed to. ● Jul 14 [01:36] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:37] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:45] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:46] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 14 [02:36] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:36] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:40] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [02:40] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 14 [03:08] *job (~job@dp7f67t65wq76.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:12] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [03:35] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:41] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell ● Jul 14 [04:03] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [04:17] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:36] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:36] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:40] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [04:41] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [04:55] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@wked9wvpdr386.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 14 [05:58] *asusbox has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [05:58] *asusbox (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 14 [06:28] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Jul 14 [07:44] *psydruid has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jul 14 [09:21] Techrights-sec2 what, if anything, should we do about link text that is to boytcottnovell.com? [09:21] Techrights-sec2 for example, [09:21] Techrights-sec2 http://techrights.org/wiki/AARD [09:21] Techrights-sec2 gemini://gemini.techrights.org/wiki/AARD/ [09:21] Techrights-sec2 The label looks wrong, but the link itself actually got updated. [09:21] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | AARD - Techrights [09:21] Techrights-sec2 There's not a way to semantically parse the label / text. [09:24] Techrights-sec2 So some mentions of boycottnovell.com will be correct [09:24] Techrights-sec2 I'm thinking that even in the case of pages like the AARD entry, it is best [09:24] Techrights-sec2 to leave it as-is. [09:25] schestowitz I've long wanted to get rid of the old URLs (the wiki preserves changes anyway), but I never found a systemic way for doing so and since I still keep the old domain I guess it was never urgent enough :-) your call! ● Jul 14 [10:01] Techrights-sec2 If it is [10:01] Techrights-sec2 some words [10:01] Techrights-sec2 Then the href attribute is easy to fix, and probably ought to be fixed. [10:01] Techrights-sec2 If it is [10:01] Techrights-sec2 boycottnovell.com/something [10:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ http://techrights.org/something%22%3esome ) [10:01] Techrights-sec2 The href is still easy, but the anchor text itself is probably best dealt [10:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | The a b c of Microsoft Innovation Teaches Us About Its Strategy (or How Microsoft Will Be Attacking GNU/Linux) | Techrights [10:01] Techrights-sec2 with manually -- but I don't know how many are like that. [10:01] Techrights-sec2 An automated fix for that second example would be [10:01] Techrights-sec2 boycottnovell.com/something [10:01] Techrights-sec2 and the href could be no problem. The achor text would need to go [10:01] Techrights-sec2 or stay depending on context. [10:01] Techrights-sec2 There are "only" 700 wiki pages so far. [10:01] schestowitz I've always corrected manually in pages that are accessed more and are less suitable for this domain name [10:06] Techrights-sec2 That's probably the most practical approach. [10:06] Techrights-sec2 By the way, there are some "orphaned" pages: [10:06] Techrights-sec2 http://techrights.org/wiki/Special:LonelyPages [10:06] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Orphaned pages - Techrights [10:09] schestowitz some of those pages I forgot all about. The site is very large and thus not so easy to manage, but we cope. [10:11] Techrights-sec2 A bigger problem, pardon the pun, is the oversized pages that choke the [10:11] Techrights-sec2 Gemini clients with their length. [10:11] schestowitz our for a run, bbl [10:12] Techrights-sec2 I'm not sure where the cutoff is: [10:12] Techrights-sec2 http://techrights.org/wiki/Special:LongPages [10:12] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Long pages - Techrights ● Jul 14 [11:42] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:43] *psydroid_ (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 14 [13:07] *job has quit (connection closed) [13:07] *job (~job@dp7f67t65wq76.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 14 [15:10] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@whyhddtbvmtb4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 14 [16:18] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [16:32] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@azyv8kfrr37ck.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:40] *job has quit (connection closed) ● Jul 14 [18:11] *psydruid has quit (connection closed) [18:12] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:39] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jul 14 [21:21] *psydroid_ has quit (connection closed) [21:29] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell ● Jul 14 [22:40] *gustaf (~gerikson@krkzi3rq7rhje.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:48] schestowitz http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/07/13/ilo-epo-president-battistelli-abused-his-power-in-restraining-workers-right-to-strike/#comments [22:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | ILO: EPO president Battistelli abused his power in restraining workers right to strike - Kluwer Patent Blog [22:48] schestowitz " [22:48] schestowitz The worse is that the Chair of the AC in 2016 then became VP 5 Legal and International Affairs when the present head of the EPO took office. In other words, he just wanted a cushy job with a lot of money and perks before retiring for good. [22:48] schestowitz Similarly, the head of the Hungarian delegation became PD 5 Legal affairs and. for instance, played an obnoxious role during the OP in G 1/21. Rumour has it that he could become the next head of the EPO! [22:48] schestowitz No wonder the AC is a puppet on the strings of the EPO upper management and that the tail is wagging the dog. [22:48] schestowitz Both VP5 and PD 5.1 have failed to contribute in the slightest to restoring social peace at the EPO. Both are at the origin of the budgeting provision of 6 Millions of Euros to get legal advice against the staff! [22:48] schestowitz Poor EPO to have to do with such incompetent people. It is not their competence, and neither that of the past and present heads of the EPO, which brought them in the position they are in. It is nepotism as best as it can be. [22:48] schestowitz All those people have no idea about the work carried out by those bringing in the money, especially the examiners, but they know best how it has to be done and under which conditions, e.g. 5 years contracts, or open space offices for the few allowed to work part-time on the premises of the EPO. They also know best what form OP should take outside the pandemic. It makes one want to puke. [22:48] schestowitz Between the tenure of a post in the AC and a job within EPO a cooling off period of two years should be set up. This would correspond to the cooling off period required from former members of the BA once they leave for pension or are not reappointed. Do what I tell you, but do not do what I do. Hypocrisy at its best. But this cannot come as a surprise. [22:48] schestowitz I am truly worried about the future of all the new representatives recently coming on the list. With the quality steadily going down, not officially, but internal key indicators are more than eloquent in this respect, one wonders what the future of the EP system will be. [22:48] schestowitz REPLY [22:48] schestowitz Ooooppppppppsssss [22:48] schestowitz JULY 14, 2021 AT 3:34 PM [22:48] schestowitz nepotism? cronyism? abuse of power? abuse of law? [22:48] schestowitz CORRUPTION? [22:48] schestowitz Thanks God, nothing of the kind at EPO my Dear. ● Jul 14 [23:39] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@nphkfn4e9x4v2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [23:59] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell