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Techrights-sec | The DeSmog links seem ok now. | Sep 14 08:46 |
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schestowitz-TR | yes, thanks a lot for this. For weeks I had to manually remove some bits. | Sep 14 08:47 |
schestowitz-TR | there is another big EPO series on the way (work underway) | Sep 14 08:47 |
Techrights-sec | Excellent, though it is tragic that the EU member states have not brought | Sep 14 08:48 |
Techrights-sec | the EPO to heel. | Sep 14 08:48 |
schestowitz-TR | EU/EUIPO is complicit it is a PR blunder and liability to them... | Sep 14 08:48 |
schestowitz-TR | also, UPC=EU project | Sep 14 08:49 |
schestowitz-TR | maybe instead of EFF writing about ABORTION (seriously!) it should say a work about EPO | Sep 14 08:49 |
schestowitz-TR | *word | Sep 14 08:50 |
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Techrights-sec | I thought it was just rogue lawyers pushing for UPC still. Tehcnically, | Sep 14 08:53 |
Techrights-sec | legally, it is quite dead. It's that the media has not yet had a proper | Sep 14 08:53 |
Techrights-sec | wake for it. | Sep 14 08:53 |
Techrights-sec | The EFF died along with Barlow. I wonder if he had not kicked off when he did | Sep 14 08:53 |
Techrights-sec | that maybe he would have been the target of an attack / coup like Guido, | Sep 14 08:53 |
Techrights-sec | Linus, Richard, etc. have been attacked. | Sep 14 08:53 |
Techrights-sec | The change came so quickly that it may have been something already in the worksand only waiting for an o | Sep 14 08:53 |
Techrights-sec | pportunity. | Sep 14 08:53 |
Techrights-sec | I stopped donating to the EFF. It is extremely rare for them | Sep 14 08:53 |
Techrights-sec | to be in the news for a good reason. Mostly it's jut off-topic noise from | Sep 14 08:53 |
Techrights-sec | them these days. Expensive off-topic noise at that. | Sep 14 08:53 |
schestowitz-TR | don't worry about EFF donations; 2 years ago (IRS shows) they had 40 milliion in the bank with high interest plan. Cohn will use the EFF, but not always for the thing it was made for. The name might languish. | Sep 14 08:54 |
Techrights-sec | There is a dire need for the services and activities provided by the old EFF | Sep 14 09:02 |
Techrights-sec | The new EFF just spends money without goal or effect. | Sep 14 09:02 |
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Techrights-sec | I reworded gemini-main-index-template.sh slightly. | Sep 14 11:30 |
schestowitz-TR | funny you should mention that; I now see the changes through git. In the video I upload at the moment I said I hed begun updating the capsule every time a new post is added (I did more scripting for this). Video upload finished soon... | Sep 14 11:33 |
schestowitz-TR | we generally did tons of maintenance instead of writing lately, but it'll pay off | Sep 14 11:34 |
Techrights-sec | I hope is make things flow more smoothly. The big OS upgrade is still on the | Sep 14 11:35 |
Techrights-sec | list of things to do. | Sep 14 11:35 |
Techrights-sec | That will enable moving some automation to the server as well as adding | Sep 14 11:35 |
Techrights-sec | several smaller tasks ot the list of things which are automated. | Sep 14 11:35 |
schestowitz-TR | waiting for 12:10am to see if the subsequent watcher correctly adds the latest git commit to gemini (long term we can stack up recent changes, e.g. "latest 10 commits"). The git pull had to be added yesterday, but I think you did a more elegant thing instead and I see you added two more files to git. I can sometimes point people for these if they ask how to do x, y, z... | Sep 14 11:44 |
schestowitz-TR | in the video, for example, I tried to explain how we automate video processing, preview, uploads etc. | Sep 14 11:45 |
Techrights-sec | Is the video in the queue soon? | Sep 14 11:48 |
schestowitz-TR | it encodes and uploads at the same time, linearly, as the bottleneck is badwidth and also CPU power. 1 hour video =~ 5 hours of encoding on 4 cores | Sep 14 11:48 |
schestowitz | I have just checked and to show the latest commit we still need to 'git pull' for gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/change/ | Sep 14 12:40 |
schestowitz | when i run git pull it shows that other git commands did not obviate or supersede it | Sep 14 12:41 |
schestowitz-TR | Ok. What needs to go into the shell script so that everything is cached | Sep 14 12:43 |
schestowitz-TR | locally in Gemini? | Sep 14 12:43 |
schestowitz-TR | It should be fetch and reset | Sep 14 12:43 |
Techrights-sec | Ok. What needs to go into the shell script so that everything is cached | Sep 14 12:43 |
Techrights-sec | locally in Gemini? | Sep 14 12:43 |
Techrights-sec | It should be fetch and reset | Sep 14 12:43 |
schestowitz | curiously enough, for reasons I do not understand, it correctly gets the overview of all changes, but it does not get the pertinent changes downsteam to the file until a pull | Sep 14 12:43 |
schestowitz | later we can do FIFO for latest x commits | Sep 14 12:44 |
Techrights-sec | gemini-git-update.sh should be updated then | Sep 14 12:45 |
schestowitz-TR | yesterday I added 'git pull' to that file in two places, but that was before you changed it, maybe overwriting that | Sep 14 12:45 |
schestowitz | now the latest change shows up gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/change/ is it OK to make a stick of recent ones? maybe over time we'll make a primitive 'cms' for git over gemini:// | Sep 14 12:52 |
Techrights-sec | I've added pull to the script. It's running now and we can check | Sep 14 12:52 |
Techrights-sec | the gemini space for what has been updated. | Sep 14 12:52 |
Techrights-sec | The script is now done. | Sep 14 12:53 |
Techrights-sec | It seems to propagate the changes correctly. | Sep 14 12:53 |
Techrights-sec | Nice: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/change/ | Sep 14 13:00 |
schestowitz-TR | I am adding your 14 min-only version of git-update to git | Sep 14 13:01 |
schestowitz-TR | because I want to add to it | Sep 14 13:01 |
schestowitz | diff gemini-git-update.sh gemini-git-update-new.sh | Sep 14 13:02 |
schestowitz | 17a18 | Sep 14 13:02 |
schestowitz | > git pull | Sep 14 13:02 |
schestowitz | 20a22 | Sep 14 13:02 |
schestowitz | > git pull | Sep 14 13:03 |
Techrights-sec | Yes, the pulls are probably redundant there and may just slow things down | Sep 14 13:12 |
Techrights-sec | for no benefit. | Sep 14 13:12 |
schestowitz-TR | added files changed (corrected typo since then), working on more things... | Sep 14 13:16 |
schestowitz-TR | ok, try now | Sep 14 13:30 |
schestowitz | Like https://stallmansupport.org/updates.html but automated | Sep 14 13:30 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-stallmansupport.org | In Support of Richard Stallman - Updates | Sep 14 13:30 | |
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Techrights-sec | Can linefeeds / newlines be put after each heading? That would | Sep 14 13:32 |
Techrights-sec | help readability, I think. | Sep 14 13:32 |
schestowitz-TR | let me check... | Sep 14 13:32 |
schestowitz-TR | an you elaborate? just to avoid me adding something you don't want? We could do some better visuals there... | Sep 14 13:33 |
schestowitz-TR | can you elaborate? just to avoid me adding something you don't want? We could do some better visuals there... | Sep 14 13:33 |
Techrights-sec | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/change/ | Sep 14 13:37 |
Techrights-sec | has ## Latest Change | Sep 14 13:37 |
Techrights-sec | followed by the diff on the next line. It would be more readable, IMO, to | Sep 14 13:37 |
Techrights-sec | have a line between the diff and the heading | Sep 14 13:37 |
Techrights-sec | same with the heading which follows the diff. There ought to be a line | Sep 14 13:37 |
Techrights-sec | between the last part of the diff and the next heading following it. | Sep 14 13:38 |
schestowitz | ascii: https://www.asciiart.eu/art-and-design/dividers | Sep 14 13:39 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.asciiart.eu | ASCII Art Dividers - asciiart.eu | Sep 14 13:39 | |
schestowitz | unicode https://aminoapps.com/c/btsarmy/page/blog/text-dividers-headers/qkwD_qkLFRu5BDXo863wZn7Wnk582Ngn0mR | Sep 14 13:40 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-aminoapps.com | 【Text Dividers + Headers】 | ARMY's Amino | Sep 14 13:40 | |
Techrights-sec | ASCII art generally does not belong in gemtext. It messes with | Sep 14 13:42 |
Techrights-sec | screen readers to much | Sep 14 13:42 |
Techrights-sec | There is no way to tell a screen reader to skip the noise in gemtext | Sep 14 13:42 |
Techrights-sec | tHere might be a way in HTML though. | Sep 14 13:42 |
schestowitz-TR | this is often done to make tables in gemini, like in the stats, but for code I wonder how many people use screen readers like these. Is code 'readable' by voice? Like perl? | Sep 14 13:42 |
Techrights-sec | There have been a few blind contributors on various lists, they seem | Sep 14 13:43 |
Techrights-sec | to be able to work with code. Tables should be used for tabular data only, | Sep 14 13:43 |
Techrights-sec | not layout. | Sep 14 13:43 |
schestowitz-TR | oh, I see what you mean now in amfoa | Sep 14 13:44 |
schestowitz-TR | oh, I see what you mean now in amfora | Sep 14 13:44 |
schestowitz-TR | it shows up better in telescope than in amfora | Sep 14 13:45 |
Techrights-sec | I still have only Amfora. I'm not happy with having to build anything on that | Sep 14 13:49 |
Techrights-sec | machine. I hope that the other clients are added to the official repository | Sep 14 13:49 |
Techrights-sec | soon but it is work and not hope which causes that to happen and | Sep 14 13:49 |
Techrights-sec | then only if there is a porter to do the intial work and fight through | Sep 14 13:49 |
Techrights-sec | the bureaucracy found in certain key distros. | Sep 14 13:49 |
Techrights-sec | And it's not a one-off activity but a medium to long term time commitment. | Sep 14 13:49 |
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schestowitz-TR | now it looks more sane in amfora | Sep 14 14:11 |
Techrights-sec | thanks | Sep 14 14:30 |
Techrights-sec | looks good with the vertical spacing | Sep 14 14:30 |
schestowitz-TR | it is being regenrated as we speak | Sep 14 14:30 |
schestowitz-TR | done | Sep 14 14:30 |
schestowitz-TR | newlines and 'code' style don't interact well :-) | Sep 14 14:31 |
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Techrights-sec | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/change/ is hard to know which files | Sep 14 14:36 |
Techrights-sec | the comments go with | Sep 14 14:36 |
Techrights-sec | ... down in # Older Commits (Latest Shown First) | Sep 14 14:36 |
schestowitz-TR | in this interim state I am checking how to hide names | Sep 14 14:36 |
schestowitz-TR | I cannot find an option for hiding names, but I can use the stream editor to use a generic name, though the code of the script itself then exposes names | Sep 14 14:44 |
schestowitz-TR | Oh, I know what to do... | Sep 14 14:46 |
Techrights-sec | I have some changes to add to gemini-git-update.sh | Sep 14 14:52 |
schestowitz-TR | wait, don't directly change yet or we'll both edit the same file at the same time | Sep 14 14:53 |
schestowitz | new page, in the index too already: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/all_changes/ | Sep 14 14:54 |
Techrights-sec | nice | Sep 14 14:57 |
schestowitz-TR | ok, done with all files for now, pushed all the changes to git master... errr... main | Sep 14 14:57 |
schestowitz | numbers now show up in gemini://gemini.techrights.org/stats/index.gmi and I added the one-liner to git | Sep 14 15:59 |
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Techrights-sec | interesting. there are a lot of older pages in there at the top of the list | Sep 14 18:20 |
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