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techrightssec2pwer ower was out most of the night after a hiccup late in the evening after afkDec 14 06:41
techrightssec2the hiccup broke ytalk etc  Dec 14 06:41
schestowitz-TRdid you see my two URLs (my own blog)Dec 14 06:41
schestowitz-TRwait...Dec 14 06:42
techrightssec2no     Dec 14 06:42
schestowitz-TR British parliament yesterday: we should quit administrating those experimental COVID-19 vaccines. Harms outweigh the benefits now. https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/12/14/miscarriage-of-medical-science/Dec 14 06:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Miscarriage of Medical ScienceDec 14 06:43
techrightssec2CheckingDec 14 06:46
techrightssec2The second one is just a link to a videoDec 14 06:46
schestowitz-TRinvidiousDec 14 06:48
schestowitz-TRI also try to preserve the description with URLsDec 14 06:48
schestowitz-TRI reckon his days are numbered in youtubeDec 14 06:48
schestowitz-TRand he already promotes his own siteDec 14 06:48
schestowitz-TRand parrots shit google compels him to sayDec 14 06:48
schestowitz-TRit reminds me of some regimesDec 14 06:48
schestowitz-TRand how they force athletes and all to sing some anthemDec 14 06:48
schestowitz-TRand wear certain symbolism of politicsDec 14 06:48
techrightssec2Yes, it is noticeable that many are compelled to parrot things, usually by Dec 14 06:48
techrightssec2throwing in a "windows is ok" or "windows, too" which goes the opposite to theDec 14 06:48
techrightssec2rest of the video Dec 14 06:48
schestowitz-TRthe latest BS is,  Dec 14 06:50
schestowitz-TRclown computing is the futureDec 14 06:50
schestowitz-TRGulag and Amazon/Oracle/Microsoft/IBMDec 14 06:50
schestowitz-TRand saying it is not ok make syou "crank"Dec 14 06:50
schestowitz-TRor, as my former boss would put itDec 14 06:50
schestowitz-TR"paranoid" or "hobbyist"Dec 14 06:50
techrightssec2It is over for clown, be sure to link to those reports from the other dayDec 14 06:51
techrightssec2which show that clown is not and has never been cost effective Dec 14 06:51
techrightssec2All they have to come back with is an ad hominem fallacy.Dec 14 06:51
schestowitz-TRyes, "ad hominem fallacy.Dec 14 06:55
schestowitz-TRexactly, that's also mentioned repeatedly in the series about SiriusDec 14 06:55
schestowitz-TRand now we have a resident troll in IRC pushing those same liesDec 14 06:55
techrightssec2Like with systemdDec 14 06:56
techrightssec2Probably a large intersection in the sets containing people in both groupsDec 14 06:56
schestowitz-TRand 'secure' boot etc.Dec 14 06:59
schestowitz-TRtrust GAFAMDec 14 06:59
schestowitz-TRbecause you have to trust SOMEONEDec 14 06:59
schestowitz-TRso trust MICROSOFTDec 14 06:59
schestowitz-TRbtw, canonical just shills azure as "confidential"Dec 14 06:59
schestowitz-TRI'd never touch ubuntu againDec 14 06:59
techrightssec2On what basis, besides possible kickbacks, does Canonical make that assertion?Dec 14 06:59
schestowitz-TRmaybe it's in the canonical contract, implicitlyDec 14 06:59
schestowitz-TRa) do marketing for microsoftDec 14 06:59
schestowitz-TRb) do not participate in antitrust complaintsDec 14 06:59
schestowitz-TRbtw, I still lack enough material for that [topic]Dec 14 06:59
schestowitz-TRit's still in my drafts for nowDec 14 06:59
techrightssec2Probably, or it's via all the "talent" which they have hired "away" from m$Dec 14 07:01
techrightssec2Is there staffing data available to show how many at m$ are now on Canonical'sDec 14 07:01
techrightssec2payroll? Dec 14 07:01
schestowitz-TRno, it ius na very laborious taskDec 14 07:03
schestowitz-TRlike, if their names are unique, you look them upDec 14 07:03
schestowitz-TRsome fools pout theirt full employment history in microsoft linkedToEpsteinDec 14 07:03
schestowitz-TRin the past, some people in email or irc give me hat tips re canonical stuffDec 14 07:03
schestowitz-TRlike rich spencer from microsoft Dec 14 07:03
schestowitz-TRthen desktop chief at canonicalDec 14 07:04
schestowitz-TRmicrosoft managed to put a person in charge of the biggest userbase of gnu/linuxDec 14 07:04
schestowitz-TRand they seeded mono this wayDec 14 07:04
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techrightssec2Microsofters tend to hide their connections these days; Same for message headersDec 14 07:05
techrightssec2in e-mail.  They /don't/ want it obvious that the mail got lost in m$ outlookDec 14 07:05
techrightssec2or m$ exchangeDec 14 07:05
schestowitz-TRfindign unix and foss-oriented people is hardDec 14 07:50
schestowitz-TRthey should be paid more, not lessDec 14 07:50
schestowitz-TRthe subject of the latest TR postsDec 14 07:50
schestowitz-TRnot sure if there are lessons there that apply to other people who frequent the siteDec 14 07:50
schestowitz-TRclown computing will be revisited laterDec 14 07:50
schestowitz-TRgood news re msfrDec 14 08:10
schestowitz-TRlooks increasignly plausible the layoffs happen next monthDec 14 08:10
schestowitz-TRthey might delay to save faceDec 14 08:10
schestowitz-TRdue to the rumoursDec 14 08:10
schestowitz-TRdraftDec 14 08:10
techrightssec2checkingDec 14 08:24
techrightssec2text missing?Dec 14 08:24
schestowitz-TRjst added some more text Dec 14 08:24
schestowitz-TRcaptionsDec 14 08:24
schestowitz-TRfrom your pointers re xboxDec 14 08:24
techrightssec2ackDec 14 08:25
schestowitz-TRcan you suggest another ref/gem to throw in for more effect?Dec 14 08:26
techrightssec2https://www.trueachievements.com/n49563/xbox-drm-onlineDec 14 08:30
techrightssec2https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/02/drm_in_windows_1.htmlDec 14 08:30
techrightssec2http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/100312/932078071-MIT.pdf?s         Dec 14 08:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.trueachievements.com | Xbox online DRM heavily criticised following major outages [updated]Dec 14 08:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-DRM in Windows Vista - Schneier on SecurityDec 14 08:30
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schestowitz-TRoff the script: from what I saw in their irc trolling, you become an EPIC thorn on their side when youDec 14 08:46
schestowitz-TRpoint out azure is faikling and there are layoffsDec 14 08:46
schestowitz-TRbecasuseDec 14 08:46
schestowitz-TRa) it is trueDec 14 08:46
schestowitz-TRb) they keep trlling shareholders "azure" is the futureDec 14 08:46
schestowitz-TRv) they reclassiofy almost everything as "clown" or "Azure" over time to fulful bDec 14 08:46
techrightssec2Yes, it appears that the might be moving budget line items under "Azure" toDec 14 08:48
techrightssec2fake growth.  They've also gotten a few bailouts which they appear to have Dec 14 08:48
techrightssec2funneled into the Azure budget.  However, the layoffs expose the truth.  Dec 14 08:48
techrightssec2Too bad those laid off 1) drank the koolaid and won't speak and 2) signedDec 14 08:48
techrightssec2non-disparagement clauses in their separation contracts so they can't speakDec 14 08:48
techrightssec2even if they would speak.Dec 14 08:48
schestowitz-TRnot just layoffsDec 14 08:48
schestowitz-TRI heard from inside that the management goes around with an axe looking for what to cut Dec 14 08:48
schestowitz-TRexpense-wiseDec 14 08:48
schestowitz-TRto the point it no longer feels the sameDec 14 08:48
schestowitz-TRlowering moraleDec 14 08:48
techrightssec2It was always a backstabbing kind of place, thus those that want to work thereDec 14 09:12
techrightssec2are questionable and those that have worked there are pure toxinDec 14 09:12
schestowitz-TR"Looks like (fearful) foreign nationals are flooding this post" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1jTBhjA6#replies Microsoft = sociopaths. Hardly surprising to see racism and xenophobia; they turn against one another.Dec 14 09:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thelayoff.com | Why does Microsoft hire so many foreigners? - post regarding Microsoft Corp. layoffsDec 14 09:14
schestowitz-TRyes, I noticed after I had made the errorDec 14 09:20
schestowitz-TRsorry about thatDec 14 09:20
schestowitz-TRbtw, did you also paste some odysee video before accidental crtl+c?Dec 14 09:20
schestowitz-TRif so, I did not get a change to open the linkDec 14 09:20
schestowitz-TRafter Dec 14 09:20
schestowitz-TR[09:12] <techrightssec2> It was always a backstabbing kind of place, thus those that want to work thereDec 14 09:20
schestowitz-TR[09:12] <techrightssec2> are questionable and those that have worked there are pure toxinDec 14 09:20
schestowitz-TRwe start workout in a few minutesDec 14 09:20
schestowitz-TRthe cold wave gives more incentive to exerciseDec 14 09:20
schestowitz-TRthe one upside, if any...Dec 14 09:20
schestowitz-TRit won't be warner sooner than the weekend Dec 14 09:20
schestowitz-TRand it's killing people here, financially, mentally, and health tollDec 14 09:20
schestowitz-TRin his video last night john campbell said he was wearing TWO thermal vestsDec 14 09:20
schestowitz-TRin addition to thick garmentsDec 14 09:20
schestowitz-TRenergy bills here can easily exceed 300 a month if you keep a modest home warmDec 14 09:20
schestowitz-TRbiabDec 14 09:20
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techrightssec2testing restarting ytalk automatically after reboot, or at least theDec 14 10:29
techrightssec2script for it, won't actually reboot here until it is really neededDec 14 10:29
schestowitz-TRturns out mjg is a windows coderDec 14 11:47
schestowitz-TRfor TPMDec 14 11:47
schestowitz-TRto put trucks on the road without an actual driverDec 14 11:47
schestowitz-TRit would be criminal to attempt thisDec 14 11:47
schestowitz-TRthe incidents would take only days to startDec 14 11:47
psydruidthe mask has fallen off completelyDec 14 11:48
psydruidno wonder he pushes all of that Microsoft crapDec 14 11:49
mjg59_What? That code is for Windows laptops.Dec 14 11:52
mjg59_Because we have people who use CAD tools that are only available for WindowsDec 14 11:52
schestowitz-TRstillDec 14 11:52
schestowitz-TRkeep those trucks in the garageDec 14 11:53
schestowitz-TRthey are unfit for purposeDec 14 11:53
schestowitz-TRWindows or notDec 14 11:53
schestowitz-TReven without Windows it's already INSANEDec 14 11:53
schestowitz-TRspeaking as a postdoc who researcher thisDec 14 11:53
schestowitz-TRand did peer review of ieee papers in this areaDec 14 11:53
schestowitz-TRautonomous driving is in its diaspersDec 14 11:53
schestowitz-TRnowhere near production readyDec 14 11:53
schestowitz-TRjust falsely marketed like many other thingsDec 14 11:54
schestowitz-TRit's the "polygraph of automobiles"Dec 14 11:54
mjg59_Did your research go beyond attempting to fit models of a picture of the back of a car to video?Dec 14 11:54
schestowitz-TRdid you see company demos?Dec 14 11:54
schestowitz-TRaka vapourwareDec 14 11:54
schestowitz-TRwhich target clueless shareholders?Dec 14 11:55
schestowitz-TRwhat's left of themDec 14 11:55
schestowitz-TR93% of the aurora shareholders seem to have bailed outDec 14 11:55
schestowitz-TRrealising this is going nowhereDec 14 11:55
schestowitz-TRand press is belatedly saying the sameDec 14 11:55
schestowitz-TRso the companies move the goalpostsDec 14 11:55
schestowitz-TRas they always doDec 14 11:55
schestowitz-TRnow it's "trucks"Dec 14 11:55
schestowitz-TReven MORE dangerousDec 14 11:55
schestowitz-TRsome carry like 20 tonsDec 14 11:55
schestowitz-TRand can break bridgesDec 14 11:56
schestowitz-TRyou knowitDec 14 11:56
schestowitz-TRI know itDec 14 11:56
schestowitz-TRbut you won't admit itDec 14 11:56
schestowitz-TRmoving goalposts from sedan to truck because the smaller one fails does not make senseDec 14 11:56
schestowitz-TRthe roads ae not railsDec 14 11:56
schestowitz-TReven trains need driversDec 14 11:56
schestowitz-TRsame for planesDec 14 11:57
schestowitz-TRand you can find ample literature about the reasonsDec 14 11:57
schestowitz-TRtrucks need driversDec 14 11:57
mjg59_kDec 14 11:57
schestowitz-TRnot some faceless vessels that can move in any directiomnDec 14 11:57
schestowitz-TRand contain chips made in shenzenDec 14 11:57
schestowitz-TRwhich do who-the-fuck knows whatDec 14 11:57
schestowitz-TRk is not a good answerDec 14 11:58
schestowitz-TRwrong answer ;-)Dec 14 11:58
schestowitz-TRvideo sequences don't give you a good predictive modelDec 14 11:59
schestowitz-TRcompared to trained humansDec 14 11:59
schestowitz-TRand humans protect themselvesDec 14 11:59
schestowitz-TRrobots lack that instictDec 14 11:59
schestowitz-TRit's hard to program fear of deathDec 14 11:59
mjg59_You really don't want fear of death in a truck - it's ok if the truck is destroyed if the alternative would be hurting someone elseDec 14 12:00
schestowitz-TRnoDec 14 12:09
schestowitz-TRthat's even more sinisterDec 14 12:09
schestowitz-TRit's like those online railway dilemmasDec 14 12:09
schestowitz-TRwhat you want to do is control remoately the lever inside the carriageDec 14 12:09
schestowitz-TRand send people to their deathDec 14 12:09
schestowitz-TRbased on some peripheral risk calculationDec 14 12:09
schestowitz-TRlike a death panelDec 14 12:10
schestowitz-TRand likely a wrongful oneDec 14 12:10
schestowitz-TR"we sent the passengers down the cliff"Dec 14 12:10
mjg59_Yeah a truck without a driver is an easy choice thereDec 14 12:10
schestowitz-TR"that's better than than hitting the barrier of the NSA's SQ"Dec 14 12:10
schestowitz-TR*HQDec 14 12:10
schestowitz-TRso you want to remoately control carsDec 14 12:10
schestowitz-TRthat opens up to more assassination prospectsDec 14 12:10
mjg59_If you have a choice between hitting a human or not hitting a human, you choose not hitting a humanDec 14 12:10
mjg59_Without having to worry about whether a human in the truckDec 14 12:11
schestowitz-TRor , like rms puts it, you can dismember people in the car with a saw and then deliver than to saudi embassiesDec 14 12:11
schestowitz-TRmjg59_: you want to remoately controlcarsDec 14 12:11
schestowitz-TRwith companies like mirosoft in chargeDec 14 12:11
mjg59_Literally noDec 14 12:11
schestowitz-TRyour company wants microsoft to buyDec 14 12:11
schestowitz-TRand does tpm, even windows driversDec 14 12:11
schestowitz-TRso that's a no-noDec 14 12:11
schestowitz-TRI don't want microsoft controlling people around meDec 14 12:12
schestowitz-TRit can kill peopleDec 14 12:12
schestowitz-TRand make it look like a LITERAL accidentDec 14 12:12
mjg59_I am also in favour of giant corporate entities not controlling peopleDec 14 12:12
schestowitz-TRthey took you onbaord for the illusion of securityDec 14 12:12
schestowitz-TRas there is unease about remoaetely controlled carsDec 14 12:12
schestowitz-TRNOT the same as autonomousDec 14 12:13
schestowitz-TRremotely controlledDec 14 12:13
mjg59_Not sure what you're saying hereDec 14 12:13
schestowitz-TRso they need some snakeoil like windows+TPMDec 14 12:13
schestowitz-TRwhile you hail Azure and stuffDec 14 12:13
schestowitz-TRhorribleDec 14 12:13
mjg59_But there's no interface to remotely control the vehiclesDec 14 12:13
schestowitz-TRyou  are clever enough to see where this is goingDec 14 12:13
schestowitz-TRopposite of software freedomDec 14 12:13
schestowitz-TRyou want to take people's cars from themDec 14 12:13
mjg59_The security design is actually to prevent thatDec 14 12:13
schestowitz-TRlike you did with laptopsDec 14 12:13
schestowitz-TRnoDec 14 12:14
schestowitz-TRit's remote controlDec 14 12:14
schestowitz-TRfor the carDec 14 12:14
schestowitz-TRTPM tooDec 14 12:14
schestowitz-TRthey can remotely disable carsDec 14 12:14
schestowitz-TRmicrosolft can remoately brick laptopsDec 14 12:14
schestowitz-TRvia UEFI crapwarDec 14 12:14
mjg59_I really love the idea of you just jumping up and down in front of a giant screen screeming about meDec 14 12:14
schestowitz-TRe*crapwareDec 14 12:14
schestowitz-TRmjg59_: now I know what you doDec 14 12:15
mjg59_Full on 2-minute hateDec 14 12:15
schestowitz-TRand I dislike itDec 14 12:15
schestowitz-TRfirst you attacked people's control over their computersDec 14 12:15
mjg59_Elaborate fantasiesDec 14 12:15
schestowitz-TRnow you do the same with computers on 4 wheels or even 18 wheelsDec 14 12:15
mjg59_What you're saying just isn't trueDec 14 12:15
schestowitz-TRthat can kill many peopleDec 14 12:15
schestowitz-TRtime will tell if I was right aboutDec 14 12:15
schestowitz-TR1) regulatory barriersDec 14 12:15
mjg59_Yeah sure let's check in in a decadeDec 14 12:15
mjg59_I'm good with thatDec 14 12:16
schestowitz-TR(this won't fly; if it starts, it'll be stopped fast)Dec 14 12:16
schestowitz-TR2) these things will be misused maliciously, whether by intention or notDec 14 12:16
schestowitz-TR3) security will remain a big problem, as will car ownershipDec 14 12:16
schestowitz-TRit's some cybord fantasy spun into a companyDec 14 12:16
schestowitz-TRfor ageing clueless shareholdersDec 14 12:16
schestowitz-TRwho sank some bucks into a $10 companyDec 14 12:16
schestowitz-TR(peak $17)Dec 14 12:17
schestowitz-TRthat's almost a penny stock alreadyDec 14 12:17
schestowitz-TR*cyborgDec 14 12:17
schestowitz-TRI can give similar examplesDec 14 12:17
schestowitz-TRof people trying to convince themselves sci-fi can become pragmatic realityDec 14 12:17
schestowitz-TRand it all went up in flamesDec 14 12:17
schestowitz-TRlife is for practical thingsDec 14 12:18
schestowitz-TRnot childhod booksDec 14 12:18
schestowitz-TRand superhero comicsDec 14 12:18
schestowitz-TRlike some 'kids' in SIriusDec 14 12:18
schestowitz-TRgrown-ups who use cartoons and fancy themselves as superheroesDec 14 12:18
schestowitz-TRKeith Alexander from NSA asked them to replicate Star Trek for his officeDec 14 12:19
schestowitz-TRNSA chiefDec 14 12:19
schestowitz-TRacting like a kidDec 14 12:19
schestowitz-TRand they did that... waste of taxpayers' moneyDec 14 12:19
schestowitz-TRand aurora is selling transformers(tm) fantasyDec 14 12:20
schestowitz-TRelon your boss from twitter does the same in teslaDec 14 12:20
schestowitz-TRmodeling the vapourware trucks like thatDec 14 12:20
schestowitz-TRare links still impending?Dec 14 15:26
techrightssec2yes, in a bitDec 14 15:34
techrightssec2ackDec 14 15:46
techrightssec2M$ hates and attacks /everything/Dec 14 15:46
schestowitz-TRi think something changed in a key perl file, likely camerlcaseDec 14 15:47
schestowitz-TRso I get an errorDec 14 15:47
schestowitz-TRcan you check at your end?Dec 14 15:47
psydruidThe only thing that can help for a start is the total destruction of M$Dec 14 15:53
psydruidNot going to M$ HQ to lecture them on free softwareDec 14 15:54
techrightssec2which script?Dec 14 15:55
techrightssec2There are some pending changes that deal with reconverting punycode back toDec 14 15:55
techrightssec2unicode in host names and the necessary module is not buildable on the Dec 14 15:55
techrightssec2production system so I may have to make a work-around                  Dec 14 15:55
techrightssec2but which script? Dec 14 15:55
techrightssec2The CamelCase.pm file should be ok since that needs to run successfullyDec 14 15:55
techrightssec2prior to the actual upload occuring.  Dec 14 15:55
techrightssec2If CamelCase fails then the upload does not happen. Dec 14 15:55
schestowitz-TRi see nowDec 14 16:00
schestowitz-TRneed to install encode in cpanDec 14 16:00
schestowitz-TR Not going to M$ HQ to lecture them on free softwareDec 14 17:04
schestowitz-TRRMS 2019Dec 14 17:04
schestowitz-TRweeks before bill gates got caught up in a scandalDec 14 17:04
schestowitz-TRbribing mit through his bbf, the child sex traffickerDec 14 17:05
schestowitz-TRand then microsoft-centric media shifted all attention to rmsDec 14 17:05
schestowitz-TR*bffDec 14 17:12
schestowitz-TRpsydruid: ^Dec 14 17:12
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