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schestowitz <li>Jan 15 07:29
schestowitz                  <h5><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/how-low-can-you-go-running-ubuntu-desktop-on-a-2gb-raspberry-pi-4">How low can you go? Running Ubuntu Desktop on a 2GB Raspberry Pi 4</a></h5>Jan 15 07:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://ubuntu.com/blog/how-low-can-you-go-running-ubuntu-desktop-on-a-2gb-raspberry-pi-4">How )Jan 15 07:29
schestowitz                  <blockquote>Jan 15 07:29
schestowitz                    <p>At Canonical we’re proud to be able to offer a full Ubuntu Desktop experience on the Raspberry 4. Ubuntu Desktop provides everything you need to develop software and even deploy it to Ubuntu Server on devices like the Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W.</p>Jan 15 07:29
schestowitz                    <p>However the full desktop environment is quite a lot for the Pi to handle. Up until now, we’ve recommended users stick to models with either 4GB or 8GB of RAM to be confident that it will perform well. One of our goals for the upcoming Ubuntu 22.04 LTS release is to lower that barrier to entry. This means targeting a viable Desktop experience on Raspberry Pi 4 2GB models.</p>Jan 15 07:29
schestowitz                    <p>The secret to this optimisation is a Linux kernel feature called zswap. In this blog, we’ll show you how to enable this functionality today and benefit from the upcoming performance boost that will come as standard in 22.04.</p></blockquote></li>Jan 15 07:29
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Techrights-secxmlstarlet ed -d '//tr[th[@class="nick" and (text()="DaemonFC")]]' irc-log-techriJan 15 07:36
Techrights-secghts-140122.html > quieter.html ; firefox quieter.html Jan 15 07:36
Techrights-sec ...Jan 15 07:36
schestowitz-TRyes, I can relate and I view channels through a filter and aggregator to lower distractionJan 15 07:37
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Techrights-secfiltering is reactive, a more proactive approach is needed to reduce damage to thJan 15 09:00
Techrights-sece channel and not scare away so many visitorsJan 15 09:00
schestowitz-TRyesterday he started using social a bit, for covid chat... I'll try to move things in that direction as soon as I see the issueJan 15 09:01
Techrights-secok that's an improvement, perhaps a mute is needed for training purposesJan 15 09:02
schestowitz-TRa last resort, yes... I came close beforeJan 15 09:02
Techrights-secnot in all channels just the one is needed (long overdue)Jan 15 09:06
Techrights-sechttps://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._F._SkinnerJan 15 09:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-simple.wikipedia.org | B. F. Skinner - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJan 15 09:06
Techrights-sechttps://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operant_conditioningJan 15 09:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-simple.wikipedia.org | Operant conditioning - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJan 15 09:08
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Techrights-secby the way, the steps to migrate from microSD to USB booting:Jan 15 09:34
Techrights-secburn OS image to USB, mount and transfer /etc /home and parts of /var,Jan 15 09:34
Techrights-sectransfer info about installed packages and system accounts,Jan 15 09:34
Techrights-secset boot order in rasp-config, reboot, (all that is quick)Jan 15 09:34
Techrights-secthen tie up loose ends, the better your backup protocol the faster this lastJan 15 09:34
Techrights-secpart goes Jan 15 09:34
Techrights-secunfortunately for my particular use-case, the new OS has new versions of a lotJan 15 09:34
Techrights-secof modules and most of my custom scripts are broken, perhaps beyoned repair.Jan 15 09:34
Techrights-secthe perl scripts are in a better situation than the python scripts though soJan 15 09:34
Techrights-secgemini capsule's workflow is most likely unaffected, the microSD card remains asJan 15 09:34
Techrights-seca backup anywayJan 15 09:34
schestowitz-TRi was just thinking of asking you last nightJan 15 09:34
schestowitz-TRas I too might make this moveJan 15 09:34
schestowitz-TRI last made a full backup 2 days ago, I will back up cron again now..Jan 15 09:34
schestowitz-TRdoneJan 15 09:38
Techrights-secackJan 15 09:38
Techrights-secexcellentJan 15 09:38
schestowitz-TRto be clear, I back up /home to the laptop, which then gets offloaded to external disks too. so all accounts get coveredJan 15 09:39
Techrights-secackJan 15 09:39
schestowitz-TRbased on psydroid, disaster should be presumed imminent at all times and then, moving to external disk if the wiser choice, I have some spare USB disks hereJan 15 09:41
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Techrights-secagreed; a USB stick is adequate and if slightly underprovisioned will do well Jan 15 09:45
Techrights-secI'm not quite sure of the best method to ensure underprovisioning becauseJan 15 09:45
Techrights-secof the way that Raspberry Pi OS does the file system expansion.  However mostJan 15 09:45
Techrights-secsticks I've seen have 5-year warrantees.  So maybe that is not a severe Jan 15 09:45
Techrights-secproblem any more.Jan 15 09:45
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Techrights-secI have a very primitev ive proof of concept chat set up now.  Jan 15 12:28
Techrights-secit depends on MQTT and tmux, so with major changes to authentication, it couldJan 15 12:29
Techrights-secscale nicely but the authentication is one of the things which seems to haveJan 15 12:29
Techrights-secbroken in the recent version of the distroJan 15 12:29
Techrights-secbecause the windowing is managed by tmux, the scrollback is tooJan 15 12:30
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Techrights-secok still needs work  Jan 15 12:44
Techrights-secquoting / escape bug fixedJan 15 12:44
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schestowitz12:44 pi: helloJan 15 14:29
schestowitz12:44 roy: 1Jan 15 14:29
schestowitz12:44 roy: 2Jan 15 14:29
schestowitz12:44 roy: 3Jan 15 14:29
schestowitz12:41 techrights-sec: Jan 15 14:29
schestowitz12:41 techrights-sec: yepJan 15 14:29
schestowitz12:44 pi: multi-participantsJan 15 14:29
schestowitz12:41 techrights-sec: it runs over mqtt, which in theory adds a lot of flexibilityJan 15 14:29
schestowitz12:41 techrights-sec: if the recent regressions can be worked around or a new versionJan 15 14:29
schestowitz12:41 techrights-sec: fixes themJan 15 14:29
schestowitz12:41 techrights-sec: ctrl-b + dnarrow will reduce the size of the lower paneJan 15 14:29
schestowitz12:41 techrights-sec: paste worksJan 15 14:29
schestowitz12:44 roy: Jan 15 14:29
schestowitz12:44 roy: Jan 15 14:29
schestowitz12:44 roy: ^ testJan 15 14:29
schestowitz12:44 roy: handles rescaling betterJan 15 14:29
schestowitz12:41 techrights-sec: yes, the windowing is only tmuxJan 15 14:29
schestowitz12:41 techrights-sec: I looked at curses a bit but this has fewer parts in some waysJan 15 14:29
schestowitz12:41 techrights-sec: $ grep -c -v '^$' xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxJan 15 14:29
schestowitz12:41 techrights-sec: 24Jan 15 14:29
schestowitz12:41 techrights-sec: Jan 15 14:29
schestowitz12:44 roy: this will make things easierJan 15 14:29
schestowitz12:41 techrights-sec: the big disadvantage for right now is that it requires local shell accessJan 15 14:29
schestowitz12:41 techrights-sec: that is to say an SSH login is neededJan 15 14:29
schestowitz12:41 techrights-sec: if MQTT can ever work with TLS again then the client can be remote andJan 15 14:30
schestowitz12:41 techrights-sec: a login would not be neededJan 15 14:30
schestowitz12:44 roy: brb, finalising blog postJan 15 14:30
schestowitz12:41 techrights-sec: ackJan 15 14:30
schestowitz12:41 techrights-sec: I see a bug with the time stamp ...Jan 15 14:30
schestowitz12:51 techrights-sec: Jan 15 14:30
schestowitz12:51 techrights-sec: ok fixedJan 15 14:30
schestowitz12:52 techrights-sec: Jan 15 14:30
schestowitz12:52 techrights-sec: need to add ACLs later, tooJan 15 14:30
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schestowitzhttp://suepo.org/january_2022_press_articles/d-47426Jan 15 22:58
schestowitz"(ManagingIP posted on 05/01/2022). "Haar today, gone tomorrow: EPO's brief BoA move raises queries“. Article is behind a paywall - Here is the link to the .PDF which is only available on the restricted SUEPO website - password protected. *Translations are available in German and French."Jan 15 22:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-suepo.org | Jan 15 22:59
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schestowitz>> We can do a fiction piece for sure. Last year IJan 15 23:39
schestowitz>> did lots of poetry with fictional scenarios that get some points across.Jan 15 23:39
schestowitz> Oh that's refreshing.Jan 15 23:39
schestowitz> Jan 15 23:39
schestowitz> Tell me what you think of this if you've time for a 15 min readJan 15 23:39

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