●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, October 15, 2022 ●● ● Oct 15 [00:16] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:22] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [00:28] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 15 [01:46] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:46] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:48] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) ● Oct 15 [06:27] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [06:42] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 15 [07:21] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [07:22] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:29] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [07:32] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:44] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [07:46] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:58] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 15 [08:08] schestowitz-TR "Ukrainian defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov posted on Twitter that, over the course of the war in Ukraine" https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/10/14/ukrainian-defense-minister-claims-russia-has-used-up-two-thirds-of-its-missile-arsenal | Source: Meduza [08:08] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-meduza.io | NO TITLE [08:09] schestowitz-TR twitter diplomacy [08:09] schestowitz-TR soon controlled by 'pedo guy' and terrorist MbS [08:09] *liberty_box (~liberty@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:09] *rianne_ (~rianne@freenode-vjf.peq.k31cok.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [08:09] *techright-sec is now known as techrights-sec [08:20] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:23] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:31] techrights-sec Soon? More like already controlled, at least by the latter since many years ago [08:31] schestowitz-TR apropos, you sent a very timely link about china [08:31] schestowitz-TR and how they police hashtags and such to identify and mute protest-related messages [08:31] schestowitz-TR the hashtag culture is like talking chalk and markinf yourself [08:31] schestowitz-TR *marking [08:31] schestowitz-TR *MARK zuckerberg [08:31] schestowitz-TR no, not mark of the beast [08:31] schestowitz-TR just marking people [08:31] schestowitz-TR population control of sorts [08:31] schestowitz-TR not the reproduction sense [08:31] schestowitz-TR but more like crowd control, the hoi polloi [08:32] techrights-sec They're just feeding a huge disinformation and manipulation engine by using [08:32] techrights-sec twitter in place of official channels of communication. [08:32] techrights-sec That muting has been going on for ages and ages, I presume not just by red china [08:32] techrights-sec either. 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[08:54] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Oct 15 [09:00] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [09:00] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:40] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Oct 15 [10:04] *parsifal (~parsifal@8vte7vm6885eu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:21] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [10:21] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 15 [11:18] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [11:58] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell ● Oct 15 [12:35] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:43] schestowitz-TR the first is uk and xenophobia/sex leader ("market leader") [12:43] schestowitz-TR the second is pro-GOP rag in US of A [12:43] schestowitz-TR not very simular audience, but will check the wording now... [12:48] schestowitz-TR the photography seems distinct [12:49] schestowitz-TR dailyFail claims this to be "special investigation for [itself]" [12:49] schestowitz-TR washington times cites aspanish-basded "human rights org" [12:49] schestowitz-TR so they cannot both be trut? [12:49] schestowitz-TR if you click on the dailymail author, onlu 2 articcles show up [12:49] schestowitz-TR so it's john smith-like [12:49] schestowitz-TR so you reckon spies might be feeding them these red-baiting pieces? [12:53] schestowitz-TR some years ago I pointed out that murdoch rags kept attacking china [12:53] schestowitz-TR after reupert had a nasty breakup with then-wife wendy deng (iirc, the name) [12:53] schestowitz-TR but anyway, china is not trustworthy, we already know how they censor unis here [12:53] schestowitz-TR and elsewhere [12:53] schestowitz-TR it's like saudi money, but not derived from fossil fuel [12:53] techrights-sec Yes, their "institutes" and the accompanying funding appear mostly vechicles [12:53] techrights-sec for academic censorship and manipulation. [12:57] schestowitz-TR analogy [12:57] schestowitz-TR 1) microsoft loves open source [12:57] schestowitz-TR 2) microsoft offers money [12:57] schestowitz-TR 3) microsoft loves linus [12:57] schestowitz-TR 4) mo money [12:57] schestowitz-TR 5) microsoft enters board for (2) and (4) [12:57] schestowitz-TR 6) microsoft threatens to withdraw money unless demands met [12:57] schestowitz-TR here, the tuition fees (about 20k/year) are 'slush funds' fodder [12:57] schestowitz-TR disclosure: I dated an mba student from china here [12:57] schestowitz-TR we were intimate and I even settld her accounts from her after she left to beijing [12:57] schestowitz-TR (no messy break-up basically) [12:57] techrights-sec 5) is the worst, most damaging move they have been helped into by quislings [12:57] techrights-sec ack [12:59] schestowitz-TR the arms industry (on all sides) is a bigger enemy than putin/xi/russia/china [12:59] schestowitz-TR nato is not innocent either [12:59] schestowitz-TR peace means no armament needed -> they go out of business [12:59] schestowitz-TR tentions= armament [12:59] schestowitz-TR war=consumption [12:59] schestowitz-TR they did this in south korea for ages [12:59] techrights-sec ack ● Oct 15 [13:02] techrights-sec s korea: [13:02] techrights-sec https://historycollection.com/some-of-historys-most-unexpected-plot-twists/15/ [13:02] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-historycollection.com | Some of History's Most Unexpected Plot Twists | History [13:04] schestowitz https://fair.org/home/lockheed-martin-funded-experts-agree-south-korea-needs-more-lockheed-martin-missiles/ [13:04] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fair.org | Lockheed MartinFunded Experts Agree: South Korea Needs More Lockheed Martin Missiles - FAIR [13:04] schestowitz https://fair.org/home/korean-voices-missing-from-major-papers-opinions-on-singapore-summit/ [13:04] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fair.org | Korean Voices Missing From Major Papers' Opinions on Singapore Summit - FAIR [13:04] schestowitz https://fair.org/home/missile-defense-will-protect-you-from-north-korea-say-usa-todays-missile-defense-funded-sources/ [13:04] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fair.org | Missile Defense Will Protect You From North Korea, Say USA Today's Missile Defense-Funded Sources - FAIR [13:04] schestowitz https://fair.org/home/cnns-portrayal-of-north-korea-as-lawless-aggressor-reverses-reality/ [13:04] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fair.org | CNNs Portrayal of North Korea as Lawless Aggressor Reverses Reality - FAIR [13:05] schestowitz-TR the url you gave fails to work in falkon even with js on! [13:10] techrights-sec https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/north-korea-sanctions-un-nuclear-weapons [13:10] techrights-sec the url had no javascript but seemed to work in FF [13:10] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cfr.org | What to Know About Sanctions on North Korea | Council on Foreign Relations [13:16] schestowitz-TR gut feeling: china would have added troops and resources [13:16] schestowitz-TR mcarthur considered nuking china near the border in two places, iirc [13:17] schestowitz-TR one way or another, china wanted a buffer [13:17] schestowitz-TR japan could never defeat china, just kill many people [13:17] schestowitz-TR china does not have a shortage of people [13:17] schestowitz-TR gut feeling: china would have added troops and resources [13:17] schestowitz-TR mcarthur considered nuking china near the border in two places, iirc [13:17] schestowitz-TR one way or another, china wanted a buffer [13:17] schestowitz-TR japan could never defeat china, just kill many people [13:17] schestowitz-TR china does not have a shortage of people [13:19] schestowitz-TR a bit of z ero-sum game in africa over limited resources [13:19] schestowitz-TR as with energy in north asia/europe [13:25] schestowitz-TR going back to the original point (china), before liberation korea was japenese empire (since 1910 iirc), so this [13:25] schestowitz-TR was a way for japan to have a go at china by land [13:25] schestowitz-TR imagine if you will a "west hawaii" with many chinese military bases in it and then some more in mexico [13:32] techrights-sec FWIW there are an awful lot of sites that won't render in FF, javascript or not [13:32] techrights-sec , but do fine in Chromium without javascript [13:36] schestowitz-TR fucking sjvn is once again pushing swpats [13:36] schestowitz-TR marrying us and swpats [13:36] schestowitz-TR for LFOIN [13:36] schestowitz-TR the media is a shilling operation [13:36] schestowitz-TR for unprincipled, undiscplined people [13:36] schestowitz-TR and later they shut down and blame the 'cynical' readers [13:36] schestowitz-TR otho, we've kept consistent and on-topic [13:36] schestowitz-TR two trolls today in irc [13:36] schestowitz-TR but we cope [13:36] schestowitz-TR i still need more topics to cover [13:36] schestowitz-TR but the "media" fails to give me any [13:36] schestowitz-TR except doing "responses" to BS [13:36] schestowitz-TR which is not a good topi [13:36] schestowitz-TR it's reactionary [13:54] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.it/yuhong2/status/1581229126140448769#m [13:54] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Yuhong Bao (@yuhong2): "@shanemcoyle Do you remember when the Google ads was removed from Techrights?"|nitter.it [13:54] schestowitz-TR lol, not talking to unrelated people [13:55] schestowitz-TR who are not even related to the site or linux [13:55] schestowitz-TR *now [13:55] schestowitz-TR trolls with a mental defect [13:59] techrights-sec checking [13:59] techrights-sec https://adf-magazine.com/2022/10/who-report-pandemic-successes-offer-lessons-for-future-outbreaks/ [13:59] techrights-sec for your own home site [13:59] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-adf-magazine.com | WHO Report: Pandemic Successes Offer Lessons for Future Outbreaks - Africa Defense Forum ● Oct 15 [14:05] schestowitz-TR no offence, this article seems substance-free [14:05] schestowitz-TR vague details [14:05] schestowitz-TR WHO quotes [14:05] schestowitz-TR lack of clear narrative [14:05] schestowitz-TR and different from anything I've read [14:05] schestowitz-TR 1) africa did not test mich [14:05] schestowitz-TR 2) distancing hard [14:05] schestowitz-TR 3) lack of documentation [14:05] schestowitz-TR 4) swtronger immune resistance [14:05] schestowitz-TR 5) WHO dropped the ball, should not be applauded [14:05] schestowitz-TR 6) mortality very high to begin with [14:05] schestowitz-TR WHO is like WIPO: UN in a suit and tie [14:05] schestowitz-TR with a token "diversity" message [14:06] techrights-sec https://www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-40982771.html [14:06] techrights-sec grauniad: [14:06] techrights-sec https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/oct/13/julian-assanges-supporters-call-on-australian-government-to-provide [14:06] techrights-sec -update-on-talks-with-us [14:06] techrights-sec yes it is substandard [14:06] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.irishexaminer.com | Julian Assange makes final shortlist for human rights award [14:06] techrights-sec https://www.salon.com/2022/10/12/fake-justice-from-the-puppet-masters-the-persecution-of-julian-assange/ [14:06] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/oct/13/julian-assanges-supporters-call-on-australian-government-to-provide ) [14:06] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Fake justice from the puppet-masters: The persecution of Julian Assange | Salon.com [14:12] schestowitz-TR at risk of being called racist [14:12] schestowitz-TR people who live in an average african nation do not live very long [14:12] schestowitz-TR not many maintenance drugs available [14:12] schestowitz-TR and it's a fact that COVID-19 is an "old people" killer [14:12] schestowitz-TR anyway, I did try to find some covid material [14:12] schestowitz-TR but there's not much quality journalism [14:13] schestowitz-TR in today's links file I saw just one links that merely mentioned it in passingf [14:13] schestowitz-TR at most 2 [14:13] schestowitz-TR after 36 months it is "out of fashion" and does not attract many clicks [14:13] schestowitz-TR hence, "not important" [14:13] schestowitz-TR so what if in my age group there are now 10% more deaths? [14:13] schestowitz-TR doesn't matter why, go warch some football match [14:13] schestowitz-TR btw, last night I checked who john cambell is [14:13] schestowitz-TR he's a nurse teacher with a phd in making medical info more widely accessible [14:13] schestowitz-TR hence his very many videos with his lectures, since 15 years ago [14:13] schestowitz-TR he is based in carlyle now, not too far from us [14:13] schestowitz-TR i noticed he gets 'trolled' a bit, not just by MSM [14:13] schestowitz-TR efforts to discredit his qualifications [14:13] techrights-sec yes ad hominem is used 1) because it works, 2) there are no arguments of substance [14:13] techrights-sec That connects to the ongoing smears againts JA [14:22] schestowitz-TR for gulag, campbell is dead man walking [14:22] schestowitz-TR they already decided he had violated "community guidelines" [14:22] schestowitz-TR they just look for a second "trigger" for another strike [14:22] schestowitz-TR he is well aware [14:22] schestowitz-TR they can take down over 1000 videos in one fell swoop [14:22] schestowitz-TR some have millions of views and cover covid19 [14:22] schestowitz-TR more like the way I've covered that for years [14:22] schestowitz-TR and that 'defames' billbc and other outlets that don't disclose conflict of interest [14:22] schestowitz-TR billPR needs to do more pieces tying that to "conpiracy theories" [14:22] schestowitz-TR billBC already escalated to "debunking" the youtube man [14:22] schestowitz-TR like this is "news"... having to respond to retired teacher with still-accessible [14:22] schestowitz-TR youtube channel [14:22] schestowitz-TR this has 'CPC' all over it (the tactics that us) [14:22] schestowitz-TR *is [14:22] schestowitz-TR but in china they would have gone to his home by now and 'help' him find therapists in some local clinic [14:22] schestowitz-TR mark my words: his channel will be removed, it's just a question of when [14:22] schestowitz-TR he has to apologise upfront for anything that might somehow be spun as racist [14:22] schestowitz-TR and use terms like "dark-skinned" or "lactating persons" [14:22] schestowitz-TR walking a tightrope [14:23] techrights-sec CoC again :/ [14:23] techrights-sec That's their only purpose, sadly. [14:23] techrights-sec most there know already to diversify hosting providers as an intermediate step [14:23] techrights-sec towards actual self-hosting [14:23] techrights-sec ^ topic ? [14:28] *mjg59_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:28] techrights-sec Even hiring a VPS would be a step forward for him [14:28] techrights-sec Youtube pays basically nothing to anyone, that much is common knowledge [14:28] techrights-sec Backups are necessary [14:28] *mjg59_ (~mjg59@ajm54sra9b86c.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:28] *parsifal_ (~parsifal@8vte7vm6885eu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:28] *rianne (~rianne@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:28] *schestowitz[TR2] has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:28] *schestowitz[TR] has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:28] *parsifal has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:28] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:28] *MinceR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:28] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:28] *psydruid has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:28] *Techrights-sec2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:28] *Techrights-sec2 (~quassel@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:28] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:28] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:28] *schestowitz has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:28] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:28] *rianne_ (~rianne@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:28] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:28] *MinceR (~mincer@bringer.of.light) has joined #boycottnovell [14:28] *irc.techrights.org sets mode +a #boycottnovell MinceR [14:28] *liberty_box (~liberty@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:28] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:28] *asusbox2 (~rianne@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:29] *schestowitz (~roy@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:29] *irc.techrights.org sets mode +q #boycottnovell schestowitz [14:29] *schestowitz[TR2] (~schestowitz[TR]@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:29] *schestowitz[TR] (~schestowitz[TR]@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:34] schestowitz-TR [due to one-minute network outage, repetition below] [14:36] schestowitz-TR self-hosting would be hard for him due to scale [14:36] schestowitz-TR never mind dead links [14:36] schestowitz-TR and followers who follow a url or platform [14:36] schestowitz-TR without redirection/forwarding [14:36] schestowitz-TR but remember, gulag is NOT free hosting [14:36] schestowitz-TR they earn almost nothing from 20-min videos of 'boring' lecttures [14:36] schestowitz-TR if's the curation that vcurries favours with regimes [14:36] schestowitz-TR if not not, then tomorrow, or a decade later [14:36] schestowitz-TR those who can delete history can decide what history is [14:36] schestowitz-TR but first they need the centralisation [14:36] schestowitz-TR of eyeballs/attention [14:36] schestowitz-TR then they start flagging, intimidating, removing [14:36] schestowitz-TR RT and hosts for RT ("empire files", chris hedges) invested a lot in youtube presence [14:36] schestowitz-TR all flushed with the flick of a switch [14:36] schestowitz-TR the next project maven contract might be fatter [14:36] schestowitz-TR lunduke wrote about the TBs needed to host videos [14:36] schestowitz-TR and also, more platforms is not self-hosting [14:36] schestowitz-TR it's just more eggs in a basket [14:36] schestowitz-TR this this scale it would work if everyone used peertube to get to his videos [14:36] schestowitz-TR enough people online to go down and upstream [14:36] schestowitz-TR but people are made or convinced to use "apps" and not even a web site [14:36] schestowitz-TR or arbitrary site [14:36] schestowitz-TR so if not youtube, then does not exist... [14:37] techrights-sec https://www.salon.com/2022/10/12/fake-justice-from-the-puppet-masters-the-persecution-of-julian-assange/ [14:37] techrights-sec yes ad hominem is used 1) because it works, 2) there are no arguments of substance [14:37] techrights-sec That connects to the ongoing smears againts JA [14:37] techrights-sec CoC again :/ [14:37] techrights-sec That's their only purpose, sadly. [14:37] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Fake justice from the puppet-masters: The persecution of Julian Assange | Salon.com [14:37] techrights-sec most there know already to diversify hosting providers as an intermediate step [14:37] techrights-sec towards actual self-hosting [14:37] techrights-sec ^ topic ? [14:37] techrights-sec Even hiring a VPS would be a step forward for him [14:37] techrights-sec Youtube pays basically nothing to anyone, that much is common knowledge [14:37] techrights-sec Backups are necessary [14:37] techrights-sec yes but mostly he just blathers these days [14:37] techrights-sec correct, yet it is a step towards self-hosting [14:43] schestowitz-TR at this stage, banning his channel (i.e. deleting everything) is all about optics [14:43] schestowitz-TR or PR 'damage control' [14:43] schestowitz-TR to avoid some of those twitter backlashstorms that typically are the only [14:43] schestowitz-TR way to overturn a youtube "strike" [14:43] schestowitz-TR but I'd tell him [14:43] schestowitz-TR from my experience, "you're very likely on borrowed time now" [14:43] schestowitz-TR they can of course (yes, seen this!) find something in some very old video [14:43] schestowitz-TR which they claim offends someone [14:43] schestowitz-TR even if not uniformly applied across a platform [14:43] schestowitz-TR like how to use some p2p softare [14:43] schestowitz-TR or some information on a security flaw [14:43] schestowitz-TR then issue a strike against years-old videos [14:43] schestowitz-TR and asking him to accept that it was bad _at the time_ [14:43] schestowitz-TR this is what snowden too spoke about when alluding to years upon years of mass surveillance [14:43] schestowitz-TR and meticulous details about who you phoned, where you walked, and what they insist that means [14:43] schestowitz-TR or jokes that did not age well as society's values changed [14:43] schestowitz-TR or there's some new enermy du jour [14:43] schestowitz-TR an old trip to see moscow for tourism might later become evidence of being a "spy" [14:43] schestowitz-TR or see what they did to corbyn [14:43] schestowitz-TR linking him to people who merely went to the same event [14:43] schestowitz-TR this is a marriage of so-called 'SWJs' (outrage culture/culture) and military/spy agencies [14:43] schestowitz-TR they use false pretenses or pretexts for entirely unrelated purposes [14:43] schestowitz-TR such as election meddling [14:44] techrights-sec it is also important to use the other platforms to get attention to the idea [14:44] techrights-sec of *anything* other than Youtube, othewise it becomes all there is [14:44] techrights-sec You could make an ennumerated list of all the options and explain why self- [14:44] techrights-sec hosting is still the best option of them all [14:44] techrights-sec ^ topic ? [14:44] techrights-sec ack [14:49] schestowitz-TR unfortunately, slef-hosting is very expensive for videos [14:49] schestowitz-TR and scales upwards very poortly [14:49] schestowitz-TR for several reasons [14:49] schestowitz-TR so one aspect of interest is, keep specs low [14:49] schestowitz-TR like small pages, static [14:49] schestowitz-TR like gemini at home [14:49] schestowitz-TR there are many other facets, like... if you made it big on platform x, can you drag that to platform y? [14:49] schestowitz-TR a) what % would follow [14:49] schestowitz-TR b) what absolute number follows and what provisioning is now needed for self-hosting [14:49] schestowitz-TR a channel with a million views per day (~70mb) would be 70,000 GB per day [14:49] schestowitz-TR and if you try to profit from it, then they call you greedy [14:49] schestowitz-TR even if just to pay some host, which they can censor anyway [14:49] schestowitz-TR the internet is still centralised upstream [14:49] schestowitz-TR there are no "community"-owned underwater cables [14:49] schestowitz-TR wireless meshes were our best chance, but those will never work intl'ly unless we can fire satellites into orbit [14:49] schestowitz-TR with community rockets [14:49] schestowitz-TR or get "community" submarines with GPS tracking to warn boats when they drop anchors [14:50] techrights-sec ack [14:52] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Oct 15 [15:00] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:07] schestowitz-TR thought: [15:07] schestowitz-TR how to censor my site, schestowitz.com [15:07] schestowitz-TR there is trhe host [15:07] schestowitz-TR there is dns [15:07] schestowitz-TR the dns system would not target sites for "community guidelines" [15:07] schestowitz-TR also I pay for the domain [15:07] schestowitz-TR as for webhost, I pay them [15:07] schestowitz-TR unlike youtube users [15:07] schestowitz-TR so as long as it's not illegal, fine with them [15:07] schestowitz-TR now compare to youtube 'free' hosting or lbry [15:07] schestowitz-TR lbry afaik does not give you your own domain really [15:07] schestowitz-TR so your links can break [15:07] schestowitz-TR but I don't know the protocol well [15:07] schestowitz-TR I just know many links to their video on a domain they do not own or control [15:07] schestowitz-TR fosspatents and 9to5linux use blogspot and wordpress.com [15:07] schestowitz-TR but at least they use their own domain [15:07] schestowitz-TR not .wordpress.com or .blogspot.com [15:07] techrights-sec ack [15:07] techrights-sec If it were a static site, it could be easily mirrored, or with some work [15:07] techrights-sec a static mirror could be made anyway [15:09] schestowitz-TR I spoke to florian about this ages ago [15:09] schestowitz-TR I think wordpress.com and gulag become DNS managers but not registrars [15:09] schestowitz-TR so you could take control over the domain from them [15:09] schestowitz-TR I think it's safe to predict osysee won't be online in 20 yeaars [15:09] schestowitz-TR or 10... or 5 [15:09] schestowitz-TR or not with the videos on there [15:09] schestowitz-TR many sites die when they need to move [15:09] schestowitz-TR and "start over" [15:09] schestowitz-TR and then the motivation is dead [15:09] schestowitz-TR like taking a 5-level demotion [15:12] techrights-sec Correct, odysee won't be around in 10 or 20 years, but that does not diminish [15:12] techrights-sec its value *right now* as one of many ways to avoid YouTube [15:16] schestowitz-TR the other day lunduke uploaded a dready new video to youtube [15:16] schestowitz-TR it got a meager 700 views [15:16] schestowitz-TR a lot less than before [15:16] schestowitz-TR but at least 95% of that was real, not 95% fake [15:16] schestowitz-TR I was surprised to see how few people watch LF videos [15:16] schestowitz-TR despite the "claim" of 150k+ "subscribers" [15:16] schestowitz-TR rianne knows today's youtube well and can see different ratio [15:16] schestowitz-TR so maybe a real legit topic would be LF faking its reach [15:16] schestowitz-TR as per the brochures [15:16] schestowitz-TR to overcharge people [15:16] schestowitz-TR like overhyping diploma mills [15:16] schestowitz-TR in techrepublican [15:16] schestowitz-TR you linked to one exampel today [15:16] schestowitz-TR there were about 4 news examples the past 2 years [15:16] schestowitz-TR somehing "linux" in title, but diploma webspam [15:16] schestowitz-TR (marketing) [15:17] techrights-sec Few that follow him keep any ties to youtube [15:20] schestowitz-TR partly his own fault [15:20] schestowitz-TR the irony [15:20] schestowitz-TR doing to yoyutube forums [15:20] schestowitz-TR telling people to quit youtube [15:20] schestowitz-TR and then coming back to youtube [15:20] schestowitz-TR awful [15:20] schestowitz-TR same in twitter [15:20] schestowitz-TR need your help: [15:20] schestowitz-TR for twitter I used to have a tool to computer ratio of real vs fake "followers" [15:20] schestowitz-TR I used to do this to @Epoorg [15:20] schestowitz-TR I want to do the same to LF [15:20] schestowitz-TR they are fakes and charlatans like crypto sheels microsoft [15:20] schestowitz-TR so I am sure a lot are fake [15:20] schestowitz-TR the ratio of subecribers/vies indicates many, many are fake [15:20] schestowitz-TR bought and paid for [15:20] schestowitz-TR so they can overcharge for "advocacy" and "influencers" [15:20] schestowitz-TR via bacon, spamnil etc. [15:20] schestowitz-TR they also appear to have paid someone to groom their wikipedia aricles/s [15:20] schestowitz-TR so that they're just marketing bvrochures in "article" clothing [15:20] techrights-sec ok [15:20] techrights-sec s/crypto/cryptocurrency/ [15:26] schestowitz-TR looking for tools with youtube account check, like the ones for twitter [15:26] schestowitz-TR brb [15:26] schestowitz-TR (btw, friedman tries HARD to distance himself from his past, has money to spare) [15:26] schestowitz-TR The Linux Foundation, "160K Subscribers" [15:26] schestowitz-TR vide week old, 59 views [15:26] schestowitz-TR another at 33 [15:26] schestowitz-TR so how many subscribers would be needed to get 1000 views on these? 50 million? [15:26] schestowitz-TR rather, 5 million? [15:26] schestowitz-TR 22 views [15:26] schestowitz-TR 17 views (several) [15:26] schestowitz-TR lol 10 views [15:26] schestowitz-TR woth the effort uploading?? [15:26] schestowitz-TR 7 views! [15:26] schestowitz-TR 160k subscribers, 7 views [15:26] schestowitz-TR 4 views! [15:28] schestowitz https://influencermarketinghub.com/fake-youtube-subscriber-checker/ [15:28] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-influencermarketinghub.com | How to Spot Fake YouTube Subscribers [+ Free YouTube Fake Sub Checker Tool] [15:28] schestowitz "Why You Shouldnt Buy Subscribers" [15:29] schestowitz https://peertopeermarketing.co/fake-youtube-subscribers/ [15:29] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-peertopeermarketing.co | Fake YouTube Subscribers: 6 Ultimate Ways to Spot Them in 2022 [15:29] schestowitz "| Its not difficult to purchase illegitimate subscribers, and numerous online platforms are offering fake subscribers for a fee." [15:39] schestowitz-TR The old tools that did use to ehck and audit [15:39] schestowitz-TR don't work or don't exist [15:39] schestowitz-TR which is a shame really [15:39] schestowitz-TR I could run those on spamnil too and show a video of LF view counts [15:39] schestowitz-TR including half a million fake twitter accounts, maybe 90% of them [15:39] schestowitz-TR it's similar to FBInstagram [15:39] schestowitz-TR they fake what they are and how ell they do [15:39] schestowitz-TR which causes insecurity and anxiety among non-cheaters [15:39] techrights-sec ack [15:39] techrights-sec Which tools were they? [15:39] techrights-sec I won't click on spamnil's channel and accidentally give him an extera view [15:39] techrights-sec :/ [15:39] techrights-sec My random guess is that a slight majority of twitter accounts are inactive, [15:39] techrights-sec fake, or spam. [15:41] schestowitz-TR maybe twitter and gulag broke or blocked (API, IPs) to hide their fakeness [15:41] schestowitz-TR their whole market value depeends on this fakeness [15:41] schestowitz-TR and the idea you can profit from those "platforms" [15:42] techrights-sec https://www.crikey.com.au/2022/10/10/parliament-officials-defend-seizure-julian-assange-books/ [15:42] techrights-sec Fraud is almost certainly against the law, the question is whethe the [15:42] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.crikey.com.au | Julian Assange: Parliament defends seizure of family's books [15:42] techrights-sec relevant governments will call them out on it or turn a blind eye in exchange [15:42] techrights-sec for access and manipulation and censorship [15:43] schestowitz-TR just showed rianne [15:43] schestowitz-TR she calls it fake [15:43] schestowitz-TR she knows many channels and the expected subs/view ratio [15:59] schestowitz-TR fallback: show the numbes [15:59] schestowitz-TR let the video watcher reach own conclusoon [15:59] schestowitz-TR the earlier discussion on self-hosting can be mention ed in passing [15:59] schestowitz-TR we cover some of those aspects before [15:59] schestowitz-TR wow, lunduke channel: [15:59] techrights-sec ack [15:59] techrights-sec Lunduke droppe youtube and told everyone of his fans never to look for his [15:59] techrights-sec videos there ever again. Whoever or whatever is viewing them is a question. [15:59] schestowitz-TR 4 days ago, 424 views [15:59] techrights-sec Certainly not many will be his regular followers. [15:59] schestowitz-TR 1 months ago 820 [15:59] schestowitz-TR 2 months ago 666 [15:59] schestowitz-TR # of subs=63.1K [15:59] schestowitz-TR one check that "works" [15:59] schestowitz-TR says 20% fake for jzemlin [15:59] schestowitz-TR but times out on linuxfoundation [15:59] schestowitz-TR I cannot find one for youtube [15:59] schestowitz-TR maybe due to lack of capacity or lack of business model [15:59] schestowitz-TR f* this, the wwww is shit [15:59] schestowitz-TR and you can see there are fakes, but no valid way to properly show this [15:59] schestowitz-TR the platforms work to hide the fakeness [15:59] schestowitz-TR i might do a video showing this emprically alone ● Oct 15 [16:02] schestowitz-TR I found 3 for twitter [16:02] schestowitz-TR 0 for youtube [16:02] schestowitz-TR 1 of the 3 worked, but only for 5,000 first followers [16:02] schestowitz-TR for LF it doesn't tell you anything about the later 155k [16:02] schestowitz-TR so pretty much pointless [16:02] schestowitz-TR OTA [16:13] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:56] *schestowitz[TR3] has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) ● Oct 15 [18:32] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@h635kpe3hju7k.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 15 [20:01] techrights-sec Regarding the Git update, Mastodon is a specific instance of the Fediverse, perhaps the link should say Fediverse [20:01] techrights-sec instead? 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