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| schestowitz-TR | for a number of days ipfs was not responding | Nov 15 09:32 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I've logged in to the server and it seems like ipfs was simply not running | Nov 15 09:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | it added new objects | Nov 15 09:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | but was not making anything available | Nov 15 09:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | today I booted again (after 100+ days) "cavan" | Nov 15 09:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | the power connector is not good | Nov 15 09:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | it ran out of juice overnight | Nov 15 09:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | so anyway, I'd rejigged my monitoring setup there | Nov 15 09:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'll now observe ipfs fro downtime | Nov 15 09:32 |
| Techrightssec | back | Nov 15 09:37 |
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| schestowitz-TR | England and Wales: Deaths Up 21% Compared to Pre-COVID-19 Levels, Based on Data Released Only Moments Ago https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/15/health-crisis/ | Nov 15 10:25 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » England and Wales: Deaths Up 21% Compared to Pre-COVID-19 Levels, Based on Data Released Only Moments Ago | Nov 15 10:25 | |
| Techrightssec | Several steps forward in moving the link workflow to tr-new. | Nov 15 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | ONS Official Data: Deaths Rose in All Age Groups https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/15/deaths-rose-in-all-age-groups/ | Nov 15 11:01 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » ONS Official Data: Deaths Rose in All Age Groups | Nov 15 11:01 | |
| schestowitz-TR | i put down a conclusion there | Nov 15 11:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | I check these every week | Nov 15 11:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | tl;dr ons insists it's not due to covid or long covid, so one might be led to conclude the vaccines | Nov 15 11:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | are causing death failure and other damage in ALL age groups | Nov 15 11:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | (I read males are affected worse by the cardiac aspect of it) | Nov 15 11:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | medical science is advancing over time, but then again nhs defunded, so thus al alternative explanation | Nov 15 11:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | aunt goes under the knife AGAIN later today | Nov 15 11:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | she will lose weight | Nov 15 11:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | they caught it a bit late | Nov 15 11:05 |
| Techrightssec | ack | Nov 15 11:05 |
| Techrightssec | It's almost uniform across age groups | Nov 15 11:05 |
| Techrightssec | I hope she does ok | Nov 15 11:10 |
| Techrightssec | I hope she does ok | Nov 15 11:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | BMA chief warns Scotland's GPs are at 'tipping point' - BBC News ⚓ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63628792 ䷉ Source: BBC | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63628792 | Nov 15 11:10 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.bbc.co.uk | BMA chief warns Scotland's GPs are at 'tipping point' - BBC News | Nov 15 11:10 | |
| Techrightssec | The understaffing and underfunding is intentional, the apparent goal is to | Nov 15 11:13 |
| Techrightssec | drive desperate people away from the NHS and into the private sector. Then | Nov 15 11:13 |
| Techrightssec | the stats will show "increased demand" | Nov 15 11:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | to repat myself to myself: | Nov 15 11:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | all this time spent studying (for myself) covid data is time well spent | Nov 15 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | because a day spent checking how many infections there are (it goes up and down) | Nov 15 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | can spare a week of pain and zero productivity | Nov 15 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | === | Nov 15 11:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | "everyone is moving to the clown, I do not" | Nov 15 11:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | "all my friends are using mobile and apps, then their data leaks" | Nov 15 11:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | "all the people at the shops act like there's no health issue, only I wear a mask | Nov 15 11:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | [05:42] <techrights-news> Good American don’t form their own opinions https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/11/14/good-american-dont-form-their-own-opinions/ | Nov 15 11:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-neritam.wordpress.com | Good American don’t form their own opinions – neritam | Nov 15 11:49 | |
| Techrightssec | ack | Nov 15 11:50 |
| Techrightssec | Carlin | Nov 15 11:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | x uses y for z, so y -- not z -- is really bad. also, y is responsible for x | Nov 15 12:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | e.g. wordpress is responsible for nazis that download wordpress | Nov 15 12:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | wordpress is literally "naziware" | Nov 15 12:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, cisco | Nov 15 12:38 |
| Techrightssec | Cisco is very, very overpriced and insecure | Nov 15 13:11 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I've just told rianne that when it comes to TM | Nov 15 13:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | lately we've not done UPDATED much | Nov 15 13:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | as there was nothing to add, or seldom anything | Nov 15 13:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | iow, if site xyz covered some issue, it's not too likely another site would later do the same | Nov 15 13:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is unlike only months ago | Nov 15 13:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | a bit of a mystery | Nov 15 13:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've just added some gemini:// links to keep tm buzzing | Nov 15 13:52 |
| Techrightssec | ack | Nov 15 13:53 |
| Techrightssec | Maybe it's the result of further cutbacks? | Nov 15 13:53 |
| Techrightssec | FWIW the web-based mastodon stuff no longer works even a little without | Nov 15 13:53 |
| Techrightssec | javascript. It's completely f-ed | Nov 15 13:53 |
| Techrightssec | The guy writing the code must be quite a dickhead | Nov 15 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, I am aware and am not happy | Nov 15 13:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is even worse | Nov 15 13:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | it does not work at all, js set aside, with some decent browsers | Nov 15 13:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | you would get banned for calling anyone a dickhead | Nov 15 13:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | even criminals like bill gates and xi | Nov 15 13:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | cocware is for dick picks and "furries" | Nov 15 13:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not for changing the world for the better | Nov 15 13:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | *pics | Nov 15 13:55 |
| Techrightssec | ack | Nov 15 13:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | http://techrights.org/2022/11/14/repost-of-mastodon-vs-ryan-farmer/ | Nov 15 13:56 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | I Was Already Banned From Mastodon.social After Three Days for Insulting the Chinese Communist Government and Talking About Bill Gates | Techrights | Nov 15 13:56 | |
| Techrightssec | The way he's writing it, it has been very clear that he is not interested | Nov 15 13:59 |
| Techrightssec | even a little at maximizing outreach nor in the original ideals of the WWW | Nov 15 13:59 |
| Techrightssec | Check the latest from Ryan :( | Nov 15 13:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | which latest? The COVID post that rants about politics? | Nov 15 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | oh, I get it now | Nov 15 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | I connected the first bit and second bit | Nov 15 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | the first bit is about the coder/s of mastodon | Nov 15 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | the second is not related to that | Nov 15 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | it had me confuised, I even refreshed the feeds for that | Nov 15 14:07 |
| Techrightssec | COVID | Nov 15 14:07 |
| Techrightssec | right not connectedd | Nov 15 14:07 |
| Techrightssec | chat is always disjunct | Nov 15 14:07 |
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| Techrightssec | With Mastodon, it seems to be the only way to find links to Glyn Moody's writing | Nov 15 14:14 |
| Techrightssec | in a timely manner. Yet the instance he is on is one of the growing number | Nov 15 14:14 |
| Techrightssec | that blocks regular web access and insists on abusing the browser as a | Nov 15 14:14 |
| Techrightssec | crappy VM for wonky, proprietary (or semiproprietary) code. | Nov 15 14:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | i just use his several rss feeds | Nov 15 14:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | simple is good | Nov 15 14:25 |
| Techrightssec | Can you post one? | Nov 15 14:26 |
| Techrightssec | RSS is far preferable than the timewasting UI | Nov 15 14:26 |
| Techrightssec | What are the URLs for his feeds? | Nov 15 14:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is one for opendot dot dot in blogspot but it's rarely active anymore | Nov 15 14:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | the copyright blog of his is more active | Nov 15 14:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | you are the one who gave me the url | Nov 15 14:27 |
| Techrightssec | RFERL seems to have more or less been posting filler starting about a week ago | Nov 15 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | what you are describing is very much applicable to a ton of feeds I follow | Nov 15 14:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. "linux" ones | Nov 15 14:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've been cussing over that lately | Nov 15 14:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | even when they are ON-TOPIC linking to them means sending googlejuice to webspam | Nov 15 14:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and potentially getting penalised by association | Nov 15 14:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | linking to spamfarms | Nov 15 14:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | when this repeats a lot I try to write a quick blog post about it | Nov 15 14:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then link to that later, each time it's observed again | Nov 15 14:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | e.g. it jungle (ibm propaganda for like a decade, but getting more blatant) | Nov 15 14:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | this will be our biggest challenge in the next ten years | Nov 15 14:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | you cannot find many posts to link to or rely on for topics/ideas/sourcing/bakcing | Nov 15 14:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can either go down with the boat (www) | Nov 15 14:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | or seek alternative, emergent protocols | Nov 15 14:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | people still look for info | Nov 15 14:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you don't give it to them in MSM, they will find alternatives | Nov 15 14:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | and social control media like youtube will suppress the alternatives | Nov 15 14:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are "disinformation" | Nov 15 14:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | i like irc communities | Nov 15 14:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | we don't need a coc because we don't need to "federate" with other networks | Nov 15 14:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | and most people are not from opposing "camps" pitted to fight one another | Nov 15 14:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | so irc is vastly more sustainable | Nov 15 14:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | if someone is a total jerk, people will gang up | Nov 15 14:44 |
| Techrightssec | I would go as far as to say that most old articles are now gone, not just | Nov 15 14:45 |
| Techrightssec | couting the ones with new URLs and no forwarding but just plain gone | Nov 15 14:45 |
| Techrightssec | Or copyright strikes :/ | Nov 15 14:45 |
| Techrightssec | TM just timed out. Checking | Nov 15 14:45 |
| Techrightssec | Just veeeeerrrrry slow | Nov 15 14:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, tm timed out a bit in the past 24 hours | Nov 15 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it always recovers fast | Nov 15 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sure if network-related | Nov 15 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | i now monitor, on cavan, tm-new top so I can see tor, gemini and ipfs as top processes | Nov 15 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | sorryt, I meant tr-new | Nov 15 14:47 |
| Techrightssec | ack | Nov 15 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | when clarify comes (by year's end) we'll do lots of shuffling around here | Nov 15 14:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | i still have a 12- or 15-meter ethernet cable | Nov 15 14:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's bridging top and bottom floor, but can be used for other stuff | Nov 15 14:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | my sister bought it for me ages ago | Nov 15 14:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | *clarity | Nov 15 14:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | one recent accomplishment for TR was, a lot of political stuff was redirected to a suitably named channel | Nov 15 14:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | and trolls can be dealt with with ultimatum | Nov 15 14:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | stop trolling/conform or stfu | Nov 15 14:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | and so bans are almost never needed | Nov 15 14:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | nor should they be | Nov 15 14:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | mastodon is going to break many hearts | Nov 15 14:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | and waste many people's time | Nov 15 14:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | they should know better | Nov 15 14:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | get a ball and go out or something | Nov 15 14:51 |
| Techrightssec | ack | Nov 15 14:52 |
| Techrightssec | It will especially waste time and cause frustration. The blacklist is centralized and not so much up to the federated instances. That | Nov 15 14:52 |
| Techrightssec | is a severe weakness. | Nov 15 14:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | "the largest higher education strike in U.S. history" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/11/14/48000-unionized-university-california-academic-workers-launch-historic-strike | Source: Common Dreams | Nov 15 15:26 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | 48,000 Unionized University of California Academic Workers Launch 'Historic' Strike | Nov 15 15:26 | |
| Techrightssec | ack | Nov 15 15:29 |
| Techrightssec | "... while highly paid administrators live in publicly funded mansions, ..." | Nov 15 15:29 |
| Techrightssec | administration costs have been going through the roof, year after year for | Nov 15 15:29 |
| Techrightssec | forty or so years | Nov 15 15:29 |
| Techrightssec | m$ and the empire builders exploiting m$ are also part of the problem | Nov 15 15:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the UK, [money] "going into administration" does not mean what it may sound like | Nov 15 15:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's when orgs break doen completely | Nov 15 15:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | *down | Nov 15 15:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | orac is once again using straw man BS; basically asserting that everyone is "quack" and "antivaxx" | Nov 15 15:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | that site can be rather strident at times | Nov 15 15:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, the author is a former surgeon or something | Nov 15 15:32 |
| Techrightssec | ack | Nov 15 15:35 |
| Techrightssec | ad hominem is a fallacy but remains in use because it is effective; it is | Nov 15 15:35 |
| Techrightssec | afterall part of the reason we ended up with systemd; the other part of the | Nov 15 15:35 |
| Techrightssec | reason was appeal to novelty; | Nov 15 15:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is not pleasant trying to reason or debate with people who thro around labels | Nov 15 15:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | like "quack", "paraoid", etc. | Nov 15 15:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | it means no substance gets debated | Nov 15 15:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | people who cannot form an aregument do this | Nov 15 15:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | another one: "election denier" | Nov 15 15:35 |
| Techrightssec | The "election denier" phenomenom is in part a strawman to deflect from the | Nov 15 15:46 |
| Techrightssec | fundamentally defective nature of the electronic voting systems and to | Nov 15 15:46 |
| Techrightssec | discredit any and all criticism. | Nov 15 15:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was going to mention another example or label | Nov 15 15:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | spent like 5 minutes trying to recall it after foirgetting while typing | Nov 15 15:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | but anyway, there are so many | Nov 15 15:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | using partisan tactics is an extra | Nov 15 15:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | stigma aside | Nov 15 15:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm about to finalise daily links | Nov 15 15:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | lots of links today in "merged" | Nov 15 15:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | twie already (so far today) I forgot unimportant things that I wanted to say | Nov 15 15:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | best to not even bother recalling them | Nov 15 15:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | OK, so thehackernews has basically becomes a part-time WEBSPAM site, shilling crap under the guise of 'articles'. Not good at all! https://thehackernews.com/2022/11/deep-packet-inspection-vs-metadata.html | Nov 15 15:48 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-thehackernews.com | Deep Packet Inspection vs. Metadata Analysis of Network Detection & Response (NDR) Solutions | Nov 15 15:48 | |
| Techrightssec | ack | Nov 15 15:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | This seems to be all about Microsoft Windows (Hannotog and Sagerunex) but dishonestly disguised as a "China" problem https://thehackernews.com/2022/11/researchers-say-china-state-backed.html also demonstrates the limits of CAs as a shallow security model | Nov 15 15:59 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-thehackernews.com | Researchers Say China State-backed Hackers Breached a Digital Certificate Authority | Nov 15 15:59 | |
| Techrightssec | It's also a dodge avoiding looking at the defective nature of how CAs are | Nov 15 16:06 |
| Techrightssec | made and distributed and deployed, especially in browsers. | Nov 15 16:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | i might just delete this feed soon | Nov 15 16:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | the site is run by idiots and spammers | Nov 15 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | who repeat Windows insecurity companies' words | Nov 15 16:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | So many CORPORATIONS calling themselves "researchers" but if you examine the actual quality of the "research" you realise it's just self-promotional marketing, PR, often lies and distortions of data | Nov 15 16:09 |
| Techrightssec | I've never really found it high enough quality to have in coverage. | Nov 15 16:11 |
| Techrightssec | It's mostly a bunch of m$ fanbois | Nov 15 16:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | going to delete this feed now | Nov 15 16:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've seen enough crap | Nov 15 16:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I don't want to send traffic to their webspam | Nov 15 16:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think I added it to track their mentions of "Linux" originally | Nov 15 16:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | not because of the quality of the site | Nov 15 16:11 |
| Techrightssec | AFAIK they have very rarely mentioned "Linux" and even then never in a favorable | Nov 15 16:23 |
| Techrightssec | discussion. | Nov 15 16:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, but that is why I started following them | Nov 15 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | becqause I wanted to see the FUD too | Nov 15 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | and now go via Gulag | Nov 15 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | either way, lots of thinking today and still no decent topics to cover | Nov 15 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | and some thinking gets "lost in the mail" | Nov 15 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is kind of annoying tbh (but ought not be) | Nov 15 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | finalising daily links | Nov 15 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | trying not to post too many new pages too fast, I changes the pipeline a little | Nov 15 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne was deeply disturbed by that dog torture url | Nov 15 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | she had enjoyed watching rescued elephants before that | Nov 15 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | at one point www was "like a newspaper" but "this time on a web page" | Nov 15 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | the quality sank a lot | Nov 15 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | now we have idiots posing as "hacker news" | Nov 15 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | trying to ride the brand of an unelated site like conde nasty's reddit | Nov 15 16:27 |
| Techrightssec | ack | Nov 15 16:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | with all the topic "research" robertson did in reddit (shills of nasty companies | Nov 15 16:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | guarded by mods of conde nasty, WHICH THE COMPANIES ARE PAYING) | Nov 15 16:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | he did not know how to back up his data and lost a ton of his work | Nov 15 16:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | glad to see recent urls about | Nov 15 16:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1) also amazon layoffs | Nov 15 16:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2) dead amazon products | Nov 15 16:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | 3) some amazon divisions losing money | Nov 15 16:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | vindicates me on a lot of fronts, not just outside work | Nov 15 16:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | clown computing is a dumb bubble to technophobes and posers | Nov 15 16:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | technophiles know clown is meaningless junk | Nov 15 16:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | like gadgeteeering | Nov 15 16:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | the problem is, incompetent people can rise up to decision-making roles | Nov 15 16:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is a problem in society outside tech, too | Nov 15 16:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | Elon Musk is the best thing that ever happened to people who want to see Social Control Media, inc. Twitter, going down the drain. It has barely been 3 weeks and it goes down like the Titanic. https://peter.czanik.hu/posts/sudo-syslog-ng-news-mastodon/ | Nov 15 16:44 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-peter.czanik.hu | Sudo and syslog-ng news on Mastodon | Random thoughts of Peter 'CzP' Czanik | Nov 15 16:44 | |
| Techrightssec | There were a few articles last week about clown computing not being cost effective or time efficient, rather it turns out to be a cost- | Nov 15 17:24 |
| Techrightssec | and time-sink | Nov 15 17:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | proprietary interfaces and staff that eithher does not know how to user them or knows jujst onem | Nov 15 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | and hence, with bogus "Certification", becomes a reseller for some foreign brand | Nov 15 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | iow, working for "Amazon" or "Microsoft" on your payroll | Nov 15 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | for clown migration | Nov 15 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | and other staff does not know how to use the darn thing | Nov 15 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | moving to another clown or off the clown invalidates all the documentation | Nov 15 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | e.g. D-R | Nov 15 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | just got back from a walk around the corner to the shop | Nov 15 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | got two large bottle of squeezed orange juice | Nov 15 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | no time for vitamin deficits ;-) | Nov 15 17:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | finalising daily links, this time for real | Nov 15 17:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | could not think of topics while walking/exercising | Nov 15 17:29 |
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| Techrightssec | ^ topic ? | Nov 15 17:50 |
| Techrightssec | (and costs are unfavorable to clown as well) | Nov 15 17:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | on mumble, brb | Nov 15 17:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | it goes like this: | Nov 15 18:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | azure et al | Nov 15 18:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | a) offer something at a loss | Nov 15 18:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | b) entice users | Nov 15 18:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | c) vendor lock-in | Nov 15 18:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | d) lose money for a while, repeat (b) | Nov 15 18:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | e) try to actual make money | Nov 15 18:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | users realise it's starting to get very expensive | Nov 15 18:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | but due to (c) it's hard to get OUT | Nov 15 18:06 |
| Techrightssec | Yes, it relies heavily on loss leaders and even price dumping. | Nov 15 18:08 |
| Techrightssec | Those are only used long enough to decommodify the access and get people | Nov 15 18:08 |
| Techrightssec | hooked on a proprietary adminstrative interface so that they can't / don't have | Nov 15 18:08 |
| Techrightssec | SSH even available. | Nov 15 18:08 |
| Techrightssec | Nor do they have a plain old console for out-of-band control. | Nov 15 18:08 |
| Techrightssec | Each company has a different way to spin up / down VMs and very different ways | Nov 15 18:08 |
| Techrightssec | to set them up. But others could more accurately describe the situation. | Nov 15 18:08 |
| Techrightssec | c) decommodify the UI | Nov 15 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | companies that becomew just microsoft or bezos resellers are doomed | Nov 15 18:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | the company that does the hosting can replace them at any time | Nov 15 18:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are just serfs and resellers | Nov 15 18:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | giving the "Services" of outsourcing... to a TEAP | Nov 15 18:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | *TRAP | Nov 15 18:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | rackspace, for instance, can give better support | Nov 15 18:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | so all those resellers are perewptually at a position of disaverntage | Nov 15 18:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | and at the mercy of the true host | Nov 15 18:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | good luck explaining this to people who are clueless but well connected | Nov 15 18:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is also the element of DE-skilling | Nov 15 18:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | replacing ACTUAL skills with piece of paper ("certificcation" | Nov 15 18:11 |
| Techrightssec | The deskilling also occurs through what the companies have been doing to the | Nov 15 18:13 |
| Techrightssec | educational system, not just K-12 but especially small colleges and even | Nov 15 18:13 |
| Techrightssec | major universities. | Nov 15 18:13 |
| Techrightssec | A "certification" on a CV is usually a red flag and a signal that it is best | Nov 15 18:13 |
| Techrightssec | to route that particular CV straight to the bit bucket. | Nov 15 18:13 |
| Techrightssec | It's only a slight exaggeration to point out that certification looks like | Nov 15 18:15 |
| Techrightssec | paying for a piece of paper. | Nov 15 18:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | sometimes not even paper anymore | Nov 15 18:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | just a screenshot | Nov 15 18:16 |
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