●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 ●● ● Mar 16 [00:12] schestowitz__ Latest statement [00:12] schestowitz__ The latest statement issued on the EPO Intranet about using Microsoft cloud services is attached for information. [00:12] schestowitz__ This statement was published internally on Friday (12 March) - no time-stamp given. [00:12] schestowitz__ Quite possible that it is a reaction to the [cref 140792 Techrights posting on Friday]... :-) [00:12] schestowitz__ Clearly a response to the series and a very weak response. [00:12] schestowitz__ Unlike (I think) trying to bribe pay my webhost. ● Mar 16 [01:12] *liberty_box has quit (*.net *.split) [01:12] *TechrightsBN has quit (*.net *.split) [01:19] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell ● Mar 16 [03:48] *TechrightsBN (~b0t@techrights.org) has joined #boycottnovell [03:48] TechrightsBN Hello World! I'm TechrightsBN running phIRCe v0.75 ● Mar 16 [09:00] schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1371550480279744514 [09:00] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @npettiaux ● Mar 16 [12:39] *rianne__ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [12:39] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell ● Mar 16 [14:00] schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/cybersecmnl/status/1371636378161795073 [14:00] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@cybersecmnl: It started by dealing with fake security like this latest monopolisation and centralisation stunt, sheltered by the https://t.co/IswHBeQPV8 [14:00] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@cybersecmnl: It started by dealing with fake security like this latest monopolisation and centralisation stunt, sheltered by the https://t.co/IswHBeQPV8 [14:01] schestowitz__ "It started by dealing with fake security like this latest monopolisation and centralisation stunt, sheltered by the Linux Foundation for the impression of being vendor-neutral. https://cstu.io/cb4ca7 #InformationTechnology" [14:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Fake Security From Linux Foundation and the Monopolies Its Fronting for | Techrights ● Mar 16 [15:43] schestowitz__ http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/board-of-appeal-in-t180715-continues.html?showComment=1615898725785#c4538606054064008817 [15:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Board of Appeal in T1807/15 continues with ViCo oral proceedings referral - The IPKat [15:43] schestowitz__ " [15:43] schestowitz__ Should the President of the BoA self-recuse: Who selects the actual members of the EBoA handling the referral? [15:43] schestowitz__ The business distribution scheme seems to be "flexible enough" to select the actual members according to the desired outcome of the referral... [15:43] schestowitz__ " [15:46] schestowitz__ http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/board-of-appeal-in-t180715-continues.html?showComment=1615895762309#c4915828359174384157 [15:46] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Board of Appeal in T1807/15 continues with ViCo oral proceedings referral - The IPKat [15:46] schestowitz__ " [15:46] schestowitz__ Serious questions arise in connection with "The EPO's apparent attempt to steamroller the new provision through (with only a very short consultation period)". [15:46] schestowitz__ The first, and most obvious, is the issue of whether those members of the EBA that were involved in crafting and/or advancing Art 15a RPBA will self-recuse. If they do not, then how will the public know which EBA members (other than the President of the Boards of Appeal, whose involvement in Art 15a RPBA is well known) might not, according to the objective standard, be impartial with regard to the question referred? [15:46] schestowitz__ The second question is why has the EPO still not provided any indication of the CONTENT of the various submissions to the EPO in connection with the consultation on Art 15a RPBA? We also still do not have any commentary from the EPO on why they chose to act (or not to act) on legal issues raised in the not-so-supportive submissions, several of which have been published by their authors. If the EPO does not intend to publish any [15:46] schestowitz__ such information and commentary, then it is hard to discern a legitimate purpose for conducting the consultation in the first place. [15:46] schestowitz__ " ● Mar 16 [16:17] schestowitz__ http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/board-of-appeal-in-t180715-continues.html?showComment=1615903771898#c371667073855893646 [16:17] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Board of Appeal in T1807/15 continues with ViCo oral proceedings referral - The IPKat [16:17] schestowitz__ " [16:17] schestowitz__ Are you referring to Art 2(2) RPEBA ("The Chairman of the Enlarged Board of Appeal shall determine the composition of the Board for each particular case in accordance with the business distribution scheme")? [16:17] schestowitz__ If so, then it seems that there is a lacuna in the RPEBA. That is, there appears to be no indication as to how Art 2(2) RPEBA should be interpreted in the situation where the President of the BoA is obliged (under Art 24(1) or (2) EPC) to recuse himself or herself from the proceedings. [16:17] schestowitz__ This is a bit concerning, because determining the composition of the EBA would most definitely be "taking part in the proceedings" ... and so would be contrary to Art 24 EPC if it were to happen. It will therefore be VERY interesting to see whether the EPO provides complete transparency on how they decide to handle this point. [16:17] schestowitz__ Of course, it is important to note that objections under Art 24(3) EPC is also available to the parties in this case. [16:17] schestowitz__ " ● Mar 16 [17:04] *polxy (~polxy@2001:b07:a15:ec0c:14d1:ef73:1822:ceed) has joined #boycottnovell [17:06] *polxy has quit (Excess Flood) [17:06] *polxy (~polxy@2001:b07:a15:ec0c:14d1:ef73:1822:ceed) has joined #boycottnovell [17:10] *polxy has quit (Client Quit) [17:52] schestowitz__ https://joindiaspora.com/posts/20279402#4d3950a0686a01397df528a1590f75bc [17:52] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@linux@joindiaspora.com: #Debian Electronic Engineering Tools http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148769 [17:52] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Electronic Engineering Tools | Tux Machines [17:52] schestowitz__ " [17:52] schestowitz__ fred1m@diasp.in [17:53] schestowitz__ [17:53] schestowitz__ LANG may be FR [17:53] schestowitz__ " [17:57] schestowitz__ Re: Campinos responds to TechRights ... [17:57] schestowitz__ > For your amusement. [17:57] schestowitz__ > Currently topping the charts at the EPO ... :-) [17:57] schestowitz__ > ● Mar 16 [18:11] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [18:12] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [18:24] schestowitz__ > Hi Roy, [18:24] schestowitz__ > this article might be of interest : [18:24] schestowitz__ > https://mondediplo.com/2021/03/13vaccines [18:24] schestowitz__ > [18:24] schestowitz__ > [18:24] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mondediplo.com | Patents prevent vaccines for all, by Frdric Pierru, Frdrick Stambach & Julien Vernaudon (Le Monde diplomatique - English edition, March 2021) [18:24] schestowitz__ > Kind regards [18:24] schestowitz__ you can get banned by Twitter for expression such an opinion http://techrights.org/2021/02/05/twitter-censorship-bingo/ [18:24] schestowitz__ Re: Patents and covid [18:24] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Twitter Has Just Suspended the President of FFII for Naming Bill Gates Patent Profiteering and Factual Information About Twitter Censorship (Updated) | Techrights [18:32] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [18:32] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell ● Mar 16 [20:52] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [20:52] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) ● Mar 16 [21:13] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [21:14] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell ● Mar 16 [22:29] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [22:35] *rianne__ has quit (*.net *.split) [22:35] *TechrightsBN has quit (*.net *.split) ● Mar 16 [23:29] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [23:29] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [23:57] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [23:57] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell