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schestowitz> this “conspiracy theorists are dangerous” rhetoric will eventually be used to fight citizen journalists as well. its already happening.May 16 00:32
schestowitz> some conspiracy theorists are dangerous. some white people are dangerous. some black people are dangerous. should we start treating all members of a group like theyre dangerous, just to be on the safe side?May 16 00:32
schestowitz> May 16 00:32
schestowitz> nobody cares about that, they just want to be safe AT ALL COSTS. better safe than sorry, better the solution be used against countless innocent people than leave several guilty out. society continues to aim assault weapons at its own foot.May 16 00:32
schestowitz> to silence stallman, they twisted his words around to make it sound like he said something inexcusable. lately people are twisting around things youve said as well.May 16 00:32
schestowitz> May 16 00:32
schestowitz> maybe thats the idea. people have tried to paint you as a conspiracy theorist before. but thats just to hurt your credibility. in the future, they could use it to shut down websites that do citizen journalism. france is trying to pass a law that gives people ONE HOUR (at any hour of the day) to remove "hate" from a website. all comments will have to be pre-approved, and if a reasonably approved comment is twisted around into May 16 00:32
schestowitzsomething hateful, it could incur chilling fines-- as if the spectre of that happening itself isnt already a chilling effect. May 16 00:32
schestowitz> May 16 00:32
schestowitz> i think for the most part, conspiracy theorists have an important free speech right. you dont have a right to deiberately mislead people, but crazy people (for example) have a right to say crazy things.May 16 00:32
schestowitz> May 16 00:32
schestowitz> some people-- like the guy who thought "helter skelter" by the beatles was telling him to kill someone-- read too much into something and then go and kill people. but we never charged the beatles for that crime. with conspiracy theorists, we are poised to turn their actions not on the people responsible, but the people who have free speech rights.May 16 00:32
schestowitz> May 16 00:32
schestowitz> of course calling for violence isnt considered protected speech in most places-- including the most opposed to censorship. calling for violence is generally considered a crime.May 16 00:32
schestowitz> May 16 00:32
schestowitz> while some people skirt the exceptions about violence, others skirt the fact that the constitution makes laws that hurt free speech into illegal, invalid laws. i think historically, when you destroy free speech, it has never had the effect of decreasing violence. it has always led to either a revolution, or to a government that steps up violence against citizens, who can say nothing.May 16 00:32
schestowitz> May 16 00:32
schestowitz> this rhetoric against free speech is-- theoretically, historically, practically more dangerous than anything. but most people wont think of it that way. theyll think of short term effects, and exceptions over the (more enlightened) rule. and thats how free speech dies-- and with it, a free press. good luck.May 16 00:32
schestowitzI agree with almost all the points here. I also think it merits an article because we're going to have to discuss this more and more in the coming years.May 16 00:32
schestowitzRe: conspiracy theoristsMay 16 00:32
schestowitz> http://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.linux.com/news/*May 16 00:48
schestowitz> May 16 00:48
schestowitz> May 16 00:48
schestowitz> Needs javascript. Now, how to turn this 590 pages of urls into a plaintext list, so they can be downloaded without clicking on all of them manually? I could take the time to CTRL-A CTRL-C each of the nearly 600 pages-- I've done that for smaller sets of hundreds. May 16 00:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | Wayback MachineMay 16 00:48
schestowitz> May 16 00:48
schestowitz> A clipboard manager (I don't have/use one, but I've used one before) could make it so you dont have to then manually paste every copy into another application-- it would collect each CTRL-C to be put together later.May 16 00:48
schestowitz> May 16 00:48
schestowitz> But with the automation you do, I bet you could find a way to get all 590 pages into a text file more easily than hitting the same three keys (hold CTRL, hit A hit C) 590 times. But try, try to find that solution BEFORE you repost this text. Because they can actually make an effort to silence the archives on this. Happy to explain how later. May 16 00:48
schestowitz> May 16 00:48
schestowitz> Here's a taste:May 16 00:48
schestowitz> May 16 00:48
schestowitz> http://web.archive.org/web/20190811180421/https://www.linux.com/news/commentary-scos-tapestry-liesMay 16 00:48
schestowitz> May 16 00:48
schestowitz> http://web.archive.org/web/20081122065508/http://east.perens.com/SCO/March2004.htmlMay 16 00:48
schestowitzFrom a copyright POV, are we allowed to do anything with such texts anyway?May 16 00:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | Commentary: SCO's Tapestry of Lies | Linux.com | The source for Linux informationMay 16 00:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | SCO's Tapestry of LiesMay 16 00:48
schestowitzhttps://www.fudzilla.com/news/49493-richard-stallman-says-i-am-still-hereMay 16 00:53
schestowitz"Techrights.org posted an unconfirmed claim Sunday from "a generally reliable source" that "Stallman.org was defaced by an FSF employee. The deface has been reverted, and the domain appears to now be operating on non-FSF infrastructure"."May 16 00:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fudzilla.com | Richard Stallman says "I am still here"May 16 00:53
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/18117368#5b83caf0787f01384e3e7a163ef10931May 16 01:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: LOL. With #microsoft #windows even fonts and printing become critical #security issues. https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2020/05/14/printdemon-patch-this-ancient-windows-printer-bug/May 16 01:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> nakedsecurity.sophos.com | PrintDemon – patch this ancient Windows printer bug! – Naked SecurityMay 16 01:09
schestowitz"May 16 01:09
schestowitzWorst System Design Ever.May 16 01:09
schestowitztomgrzMay 16 01:10
schestowitztomgrz - about 22 hours agoMay 16 01:10
schestowitzThe funny thing is that NT started-out solid. They then proceeded to screw it up badly. Hmmm.May 16 01:10
schestowitz"May 16 01:10
schestowitzThis was the Microsoft AddedValue(TM)May 16 01:10
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schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/05/unclean-hands-accusations-in-south.html?showComment=1589449636848#c4281937700998547332May 16 03:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | "Unclean Hands" accusations in South African Bayer patent battle with Villa Crop - The IPKatMay 16 03:48
schestowitz"Certainly no stupid question, and you are correct that Villa Crop’s argument on validity includes the plea is that the 2005 patent lacks novelty over Bayer’s own prior disclosures (the 1997 patent and the SPC). Villa Crop argues both lack of novelty and “unclean hands”. The benefit in the unclean hands argument lies therein that it is raised as a point in limine. In other words, should it succeed, the doors of court close May 16 03:48
schestowitzfor Bayer and there is no need to go into enquiries about validity. The trial could in that way, be significantly shortened. The two enquiries are different. In limine, it is simply whether Bayer made statements in support of its SPCs which are destructive of its allegation of validity of the 2005 patent. The novelty enquiry is, of course, a different matter."May 16 03:48
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/04/no-european-qualifying-examination-will.html?showComment=1589273234140#c2229231683348792980May 16 03:48
schestowitz"I really don't think PEB exams should go ahead as usual this year given the current situation. I highly doubt it would get better by October. Many that I've spoken to don't feel comfortable so there has to be some "measures" put in place or even better - find an alternative assessment. Preparation to increase health and safety of individuals needs to be done at exam venues, there are issues with transportation as many rely on May 16 03:48
schestowitzpublic transport to get to these exam venues. If these cannot be sorted then unfortunately, it should be cancelled. "May 16 03:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | No European qualifying examination will be held in 2020 says EQE Supervisory Board - The IPKatMay 16 03:48
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/05/unclean-hands-accusations-in-south.html?showComment=1589360898831#c6688227053164865826May 16 03:48
schestowitz""This may be a stupid question but...Does anyone know why the 2005 patent for spirotetramat doesn't simply lack novelty over Bayer's own earlier disclosures (through the 1997 patent and the SPC) of spirotetramat? Is there an added benefit in arguing "unclean hands" over simple lack of novelty? (Non-SA practitioner here)"May 16 03:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | "Unclean Hands" accusations in South African Bayer patent battle with Villa Crop - The IPKatMay 16 03:48
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/04/no-european-qualifying-examination-will.html?showComment=1589128868324#c32285830490808193May 16 03:49
schestowitz"May 16 03:49
schestowitzThis is not good news. Looks like lockdown measures cannot be lifted until a vaccine is found. Exams in Oct looks extremely unlikely.May 16 03:49
schestowitzhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52604676May 16 03:49
schestowitz"May 16 03:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | No European qualifying examination will be held in 2020 says EQE Supervisory Board - The IPKatMay 16 03:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.bbc.co.uk | Coronavirus: Germany infection rate rises as lockdown eases - BBC NewsMay 16 03:49
schestowitz                <li>May 16 05:03
schestowitz                  <h5><a href="https://www.networkworld.com/article/3543232/how-to-examine-processes-running-on-linux.html">How to examine processes running on Linux</a></h5>May 16 05:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.networkworld.com/article/3543232/how-to-examine-processes-running-on-linux.html">How )May 16 05:04
schestowitz                  <blockquote>May 16 05:04
schestowitz                    <p>There are quite a number of ways to look at running processes on Linux systems – to see what’s running, the resources that processes are using, how the system is affected by the load and how memory is being used. Each command gives you a different view, and the range of details is considerable. In this post, we’ll run through a series of commands that can help you view process details in a number of May 16 05:04
schestowitzdifferent ways. </p></blockquote></li>May 16 05:04
schestowitz> 4) I may write about MIT later. Maybe I should ask RMS a set of questions.May 16 06:00
schestowitzThat is encouraging, thank you!  We need to bring this around to the place it  needs to be.  May 16 06:00
schestowitz(old)May 16 06:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/salegot1/status/1261516119103254529May 16 06:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@salegot1: @schestowitz @whosaidthis_botMay 16 06:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/StarchyArchie/status/1261488080810278918May 16 06:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@StarchyArchie: @peterxing cc: @SchestowitzMay 16 06:04
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schestowitzhttp://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2020/04/30/what-to-expect-from-the-european-commissions-group-of-experts-on-standard-essential-patents/?doing_wp_cron=1588267939.5083689689636230468750May 16 15:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | What to expect from the European Commission’s Group of Experts on Standard Essential Patents? - Kluwer Patent BlogMay 16 15:40
schestowitz"May 16 15:40
schestowitzThe above proposal is to be encouraged, but one aspect seems absent in the paper.May 16 15:40
schestowitzIt should be borne in mind, is that patent trolls like Sisvel, Conversant and their likes, hold a lot of the SEPs.May 16 15:40
schestowitzThose NPEs are a veritable plague, and their privileges should be curtailed. The royalties for such NPEs should be limited as they are not contributing to increase the GDP by open competition between economic actors, they simply cash in for the sake of it.May 16 15:40
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schestowitzRe: Ten years later - another PJ interview?May 16 17:46
schestowitz> Hi Roy,May 16 17:46
schestowitz> May 16 17:46
schestowitz> Ten years ago, you have interviewed PJ of Graklaw. Many things haveMay 16 17:46
schestowitz> changed since then, some of them people would have found impossible.May 16 17:46
schestowitz> Would be interesting if you could catch up with PJ for a retrospectiveMay 16 17:46
schestowitz> of what's happened since then. Groklaw was where I and many othersMay 16 17:46
schestowitz> learned about the GPL, Linux, IP law and other topics we IANALs neverMay 16 17:46
schestowitz> saw before.May 16 17:46
schestowitz> May 16 17:46
schestowitz> How about that?May 16 17:46
schestowitzI have not been in touch with her for many years. Nobody I know has been, either. I think she prefers it that way.May 16 17:47
schestowitz>     I think it's important to keep one's tone low so as to avoid theMay 16 17:48
schestowitz>     impression of rudeness.May 16 17:48
schestowitz> May 16 17:48
schestowitz> May 16 17:48
schestowitz> People usually feel I'm "rude" or speaking "out of turn". May 16 17:48
schestowitz> May 16 17:48
schestowitz> They'll always have this impression as black women are simply notMay 16 17:48
schestowitz> expected to be assertive - especially when confronting white men. TheMay 16 17:48
schestowitz> tone can't be "low" and "assertive" at the same time - they're mutuallyMay 16 17:48
schestowitz> exclusive.May 16 17:48
schestowitz> May 16 17:48
schestowitz> I'm the one on lockdown. I've been on lockdown for a long time!!!May 16 17:48
schestowitz> May 16 17:48
schestowitz> Thanks for the advice anyway.:)May 16 17:48
schestowitzHey, it's not like techrights is always polite, either.May 16 17:48
schestowitzWhen it doesn't need to be polite.May 16 17:48
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