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schestowitz-TROnline Negativity Is A Form of Virus gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1077 well, the world ain't perfect, right? The oligarchs's publishers like to pretend new jobs are everywhere and oligarchs are heroesJul 16 00:43
schestowitz-TR "Reddit, I'm convinced, is one of the worst websites ever created" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1077Jul 16 00:43
schestowitz-TRvery read-worthy rant there about RedditJul 16 00:44
schestowitz-TRI hope it'll die soonJul 16 00:44
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Techrights-secI see the regex in the mockup is mangling apostrophes.  looking...Jul 16 09:22
Techrights-secNot sure, can't duplicate it even when pasting from the original TM postJul 16 09:22
Techrights-secFound some other stuff though.  Jul 16 09:22
Techrights-sec.Jul 16 09:22
schestowitz-TRotaJul 16 09:22
schestowitz-TRrianne is now connected to the machine using my username and via my machine as a brdfidgeJul 16 09:23
schestowitz-TRshell shall be Jul 16 09:23
schestowitz-TRshe shall be testing later for any feed bakc on the workflowJul 16 09:23
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Techrights-secthanks!Jul 16 09:34
Techrights-secssh -J   Jul 16 09:39
Techrights-sec?Jul 16 09:39
Techrights-secThe ProxyJump option is very usefulJul 16 09:39
schestowitz-TRno, we use -J at work to replay keysJul 16 09:40
schestowitz-TRfor this one I could just do 2 hops manuallyJul 16 09:40
schestowitz-TRas she is using my keysJul 16 09:40
schestowitz-TR*relayJul 16 09:40
schestowitz-TRssh -At can also be usedfulJul 16 09:41
schestowitz-TRfor the agent to pass on the keyJul 16 09:41
schestowitz-TRbut I'm not sure if it's the same or beign deprecated or...Jul 16 09:41
schestowitz-TRI stoped watching buf reports of openssh over RSS feeds ;-)Jul 16 09:41
schestowitz-TR*bugJul 16 09:41
Techrights-sec-A has more or less been deprecated by -J though, there are big risks with -AJul 16 09:42
Techrights-secwhen passing through untrusted machines.  That's not the case here but in Jul 16 09:42
Techrights-secgeneral -J is the way to go.  If you do have to ever do agent forwarding throughJul 16 09:42
Techrights-secan somewhat untrusted machine, then it is possible to fire up a one-off agentJul 16 09:42
Techrights-secjust for that one key so that all your other keys don't get sucked along intoJul 16 09:43
Techrights-secthe questionable system.Jul 16 09:43
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schestowitz> , you’d also probably advise against it. This is because weJul 16 10:00
schestowitzI am tempted to use this for a publication, but need your permission.Jul 16 10:00
schestowitzRe: legal eaglesJul 16 10:03
schestowitz> Countdown... the WIPO panel is supposed to deliver a verdict before 19 July.Jul 16 10:03
schestowitz> Jul 16 10:03
schestowitz> During my year at NUS, Varghese was president.  He is MelbourneJul 16 10:03
schestowitz> Uni alumnus like AssangeJul 16 10:03
schestowitz> Jul 16 10:03
schestowitz> I ran against Varghese and Eckersley in the student elections.  VargheseJul 16 10:03
schestowitz> only beat me with a handful of preferences from Eckersley.Jul 16 10:03
schestowitz> Jul 16 10:03
schestowitz> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Blackburn_(law_firm)Jul 16 10:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Maurice Blackburn (law firm) - WikipediaJul 16 10:03
schestowitz> Jul 16 10:04
schestowitz> Last time I saw Eckersley was DebConf16 in Heidelberg.Jul 16 10:04
schestowitz> Jul 16 10:04
schestowitz> Another Melbourne alumnus is in the news... what do you make of this, anJul 16 10:04
schestowitz> Australian has been appointed Professor of Computer Science at Oxford.Jul 16 10:04
schestowitz> Phil founded the NLP group at DeepMind.Jul 16 10:04
schestowitz> Jul 16 10:04
schestowitz> https://www.cs.ox.ac.uk/news/2012-full.htmlJul 16 10:04
schestowitzI thought Varghese used to cover sports or something.Jul 16 10:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cs.ox.ac.uk | Two new Professors of Computer ScienceJul 16 10:04
schestowitzSame person?Jul 16 10:04
schestowitz<li>Jul 16 10:15
schestowitz                                    <h5><a href="https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/07/14/1055894/us-military-sofware-linux-kernel-open-source/">The US military wants to understand the most important software on Earth</a></h5>Jul 16 10:15
schestowitz                                    <blockquote>Jul 16 10:15
schestowitz                                        <p>“People are realizing now: wait a minute, literally everything we do is underpinned by Linux,” says Dave Aitel, a cybersecurity researcher and former NSA computer security scientist. “This is a core technology to our society. Not understanding kernel security means we can’t secure critical infrastructure.”</p>Jul 16 10:15
schestowitz                                        <p>Now DARPA, the US military’s research arm, wants to understand the collision of code and community that makes these open-source projects work, in order to better understand the risks they face. The goal is to be able to effectively recognize malicious actors and prevent them from disrupting or corrupting crucially important open-source code before it’s too late.</p>Jul 16 10:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.technologyreview.com | The US military wants to understand the most important software on Earth | MIT Technology ReviewJul 16 10:15
schestowitz                                        <p>DARPA’s “SocialCyber” program is an 18-month-long, multimillion-dollar project that will combine sociology with recent technological advances in artificial intelligence to map, understand, and protect these massive open-source communities and the code they create. It’s different from most previous research because it combines automated analysis of both the code and the social dimensions of open-Jul 16 10:15
schestowitzsource software.</p>Jul 16 10:15
schestowitz                                    </blockquote>Jul 16 10:15
schestowitz                                </li>Jul 16 10:15
schestowitz <li>Jul 16 11:11
schestowitz                <h5><a href="https://www.tecmint.com/iptraf-ng-linux-network-monitoring/">IPTraf-ng – A Console-Based Network Monitoring Tool</a></h5>Jul 16 11:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tecmint.com | IPTraf-ng - A Network Monitoring Tool for LinuxJul 16 11:12
schestowitz                <blockquote>Jul 16 11:12
schestowitz                    <p>IPTraf-ng is a console-based Linux network statistics monitoring program that shows information about IP traffic, which includes information such as:</p>Jul 16 11:12
schestowitz                    <p>The IPTraf-ng utility can be used to find out the type of traffic on your network, and what kind of service is the most heavily used on what systems, among others.</p>Jul 16 11:12
schestowitz                </blockquote>Jul 16 11:12
schestowitz            </li>Jul 16 11:12
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Techrights-sectimeout when connecting to gemini.techrights.org ...Jul 16 11:30
Techrights-seceither via gemini:// or ssh://Jul 16 11:30
schestowitz-TRworks ok from my endJul 16 11:31
schestowitz-TRwill check from your home network over ssh tunnelJul 16 11:31
schestowitz-TRI can reach the gemini https proxy from your home networkJul 16 11:32
schestowitz-TRif there is a downtime I get red warnings hereJul 16 11:32
schestowitz-TRhttps://nitter.it/joneidj2/status/1548078360978329602#mJul 16 11:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-🇮🇷🇮🇶🇱🇧 🏴2جنيد🇸🇾🇾🇪🇵🇸 (@joneidj2): "۱۰۰/۱۳«در سال ۱۹۹۸، استراتژی های کسب و کار بیل گیتس آتش گرفت: وزارت دادگستری ایالات متحده مایکروسافت را برای نقض قانون ضد انحصار محاکمه کرد .در طی ۱۸ ماه محاکمه گیتس ساعت ها و ساعت ها بازجویی شد.» https://bit.lyJul 16 11:52
Techrights-secok seems to work now, but not a few minutes ago   Jul 16 12:01
Techrights-secpuzzlingJul 16 12:01
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schestowitz-TRmaybe ISP or somwwhere in bwteeenJul 16 12:07
schestowitz-TRmaybe outsourced to for-profit companies that aren't even cable companiesJul 16 12:07
schestowitz-TRthese days many underwater cables are laid out by or for surveillance companiesJul 16 12:07
schestowitz-TRfrom some country I cannot remember... but I think it's 31 trillion in debtJul 16 12:07
schestowitz-TRtrying to drink the ocean with everything in itJul 16 12:07
schestowitz-TRmy ad just told me indian had surpassed china's population size Jul 16 12:07
schestowitz-TRbased on some estimate or censusJul 16 12:07
schestowitz-TRand yet we hear of "chinese" minoritiesJul 16 12:07
schestowitz-TR"indian" minoritiesJul 16 12:08
schestowitz-TRand "muslim" (not race or nation)Jul 16 12:08
schestowitz-TRminorityJul 16 12:08
schestowitz-TRMuslim+Chinese+Indian (little overlap, except in India) must be the majority of the world's populationJul 16 12:08
schestowitz-TRat around 4.5 billion and risingJul 16 12:08
schestowitz-TREU is about 300+ millionJul 16 12:08
schestowitz-TRUS 330+so-called "illegals"Jul 16 12:08
schestowitz-TRI never heard tech companies calling for diversity in chinese or indian companiesJul 16 12:08
schestowitz-TRwhere very few managers are "white"Jul 16 12:08
schestowitz-TRbut the scenario is similar for mulslim-majority countries where x-0ians are persecutedJul 16 12:08
schestowitz-TRand sometimes prosecuted, lynched, stonesJul 16 12:08
schestowitz-TR*dtonedJul 16 12:08
schestowitz-TR*stonedJul 16 12:08
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Techrights-secotr: no, i stand by the classification of sweden and norway due to demographicJul 16 12:30
Techrights-secotr: trenddsJul 16 12:30
Techrights-secotr: thailand is also having trouble with "insurgents" and thus, I presume, alsoJul 16 12:30
Techrights-secotr: squattersJul 16 12:30
Techrights-secotr; I left the US off the list on purposeJul 16 12:30
Techrights-secotr: yazidi and sikhism were also found in the middle east.Jul 16 12:30
Techrights-secotr: at this point chaldeans exist only outside the middle east, too, likeJul 16 12:30
Techrights-secotr: many of the yazidisJul 16 12:30
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schestowitz-TRMicrsooft is an ongoing diasporaJul 16 14:03
schestowitz-TRthe company used to hire loads of peopleJul 16 14:03
schestowitz-TRI had spoken to my dad for a long time, then sleptJul 16 14:03
schestowitz-TRuntil nowJul 16 14:03
schestowitz-TRcatching upJul 16 14:03
schestowitz-TRone point wqe agree on is speculation in trhe economy (so-called)Jul 16 14:03
schestowitz-TRthe gist of it is,Jul 16 14:03
schestowitz-TRthere's brainwash for people to "invest in the market"Jul 16 14:03
schestowitz-TRwhen he was young it was unthinkableJul 16 14:03
schestowitz-TRnow everyone ties savings to the infantile delusion some companies are worth trillionsJul 16 14:03
schestowitz-TRand they use this fake valuation patternJul 16 14:03
schestowitz-TRto use the SAVERS' money Jul 16 14:03
schestowitz-TR(in effect gambling budget)Jul 16 14:04
schestowitz-TRto buy other companiesJul 16 14:04
schestowitz-TRand pretend to be worth moreJul 16 14:04
schestowitz-TRcorporate imperialism of sortsJul 16 14:04
schestowitz-TRmadofff scemeJul 16 14:04
schestowitz-TRmicrosoft: we are worth trillions, invest in us, we'll pay you back moreJul 16 14:04
schestowitz-TRthen the company ios just some ticker/symbolJul 16 14:04
schestowitz-TRfor people to speculate with/onJul 16 14:04
schestowitz-TRand they go on a rampageJul 16 14:04
schestowitz-TRlike buying github and game studiosJul 16 14:04
Techrights-secackJul 16 14:05
Techrights-secM$ hires loads of student researchers, effectively for marketing from theJul 16 14:05
Techrights-secground up to poison the computing environments at major univerisitiesJul 16 14:05
Techrights-secWorld-wide, the world's major universities had *far more* functionalityJul 16 14:05
Techrights-secthan is available now.  Nothing has replaced the combination of Jul 16 14:05
Techrights-secLDAP, Kerberos, AFS, and e-mail.  Most universities no longer even have e-mailJul 16 14:05
Techrights-sechaving 1) only a "webmail" interface to 2) either Google or M$Jul 16 14:05
Techrights-secMojang was one of M$ more destructive purchases.  Minecraft was a vehicle forJul 16 14:05
Techrights-secintroducing a whole generation to GNU/Linux and IMO the purchase was madeJul 16 14:05
Techrights-secto put an end to that.Jul 16 14:05
Techrights-secs/functionality/functionality back in the 1990s/Jul 16 14:05
schestowitz-TRour company used to eb like thatJul 16 14:06
schestowitz-TRbe clown this, clown thatJul 16 14:06
schestowitz-TRI open my mouth a lot more these daysJul 16 14:06
schestowitz-TRbecause I want to get outJul 16 14:06
schestowitz-TRby the end of the yearJul 16 14:06
Techrights-secackJul 16 14:07
Techrights-secthough really it would be best in the big picture for the company to shape upJul 16 14:07
Techrights-secand ditch the clown computing and some of the clowns which pushed for itJul 16 14:07
schestowitz-TR"the threesome"Jul 16 14:10
schestowitz-TRrememberJul 16 14:10
schestowitz-TRtheLiar does not understand computingJul 16 14:10
schestowitz-TRso it has become a vertical issueJul 16 14:10
schestowitz-TRwhere the wrong people are listened toJul 16 14:10
schestowitz-TRusually in the (fake) name of "savings"Jul 16 14:10
schestowitz-TRthe AWS bill climbed to about $1000 a monthJul 16 14:11
schestowitz-TRfor just a few instancesJul 16 14:11
schestowitz-TRwe used to have a whole rack with machines on itJul 16 14:11
schestowitz-TRevery xmas instead of giving the staff a little bonus they give amazon voucherJul 16 14:11
schestowitz-TRof course I never used mineJul 16 14:11
schestowitz-TRbut they basically think this is ethicalJul 16 14:11
schestowitz-TRmaybe there is some kickback-like deal associated with that Jul 16 14:11
schestowitz-TRI don't follow how these "gift" cards work and why simply giving cash is not a thingJul 16 14:11
Techrights-secyes and the bullshitters generally are not measured by accomplishment of anyJul 16 14:12
Techrights-sectasks and thus spend the day lobbying and schmoozingJul 16 14:12
Techrights-secFor that money you really could buy and operate a full rack of reasonable    Jul 16 14:12
Techrights-sechardware.Jul 16 14:12
Techrights-sec:(Jul 16 14:12
Techrights-secbarfJul 16 14:12
Techrights-secAFAIK I have never purchase from AmazonJul 16 14:12
Techrights-secI plan to keep it that wayJul 16 14:12
schestowitz-TR"barf" indeedJul 16 14:15
schestowitz-TRit's like they make it complusory for you to choose bad v endorsJul 16 14:15
schestowitz-TRand basically tell you HOW or WHERE to spend "your" moneyhJul 16 14:15
schestowitz-TRimagine salaries giving in this formJul 16 14:15
schestowitz-TRabout 8 or 9 years ago they "rewarded" me for good work by sending me a "gift"Jul 16 14:15
schestowitz-TRcard for "ASDA" Jul 16 14:15
schestowitz-TRit was already Waltons-owned, I call it Walmart UKJul 16 14:15
schestowitz-TRit can be used to purchase foodJul 16 14:15
schestowitz-TRbut the logistics of sending that card from london area wwere tiring to merJul 16 14:15
schestowitz-TRvery time-consumingJul 16 14:15
schestowitz-TRthey could instead just top up my bank accountJul 16 14:15
schestowitz-TRbut this idiocy of sending bits of plastic as "voucher" and paying for stampings, doing manual work etc.Jul 16 14:15
schestowitz-TRjust show you the defective thinking/mindsetJul 16 14:15
Techrights-secyes a cash bonus would have less stigmaJul 16 14:16
Techrights-secit's attaching strings to the moneyJul 16 14:16
Techrights-sec"eat a bug and say you don't like it" for usJul 16 14:16
schestowitz-TRon the issue of econoym based on gambling with savers' money (never mind putting people in debt, i.e. creating "demand" based on borrowings from a dire future)Jul 16 14:23
schestowitz-TRsome years ago I was bothered on the phone by this speculator the bank tried to hook us up withJul 16 14:23
schestowitz-TRto "invest" our moneyJul 16 14:23
schestowitz-TRwe got him off our back at the endJul 16 14:24
schestowitz-TRmy dad says they keep bothering himJul 16 14:24
schestowitz-TRbecauase he does not "invest' the moneyJul 16 14:24
schestowitz-TRwe agree our whole economy is now based on people throwing everything into the hatJul 16 14:24
schestowitz-TRso they can double- or -treble-gambleJul 16 14:24
schestowitz-TRlike, we have X moneyJul 16 14:24
schestowitz-TRlet's lend out x10 the money we "have"Jul 16 14:24
schestowitz-TR"have" = some people gave us trheir money to "invest"Jul 16 14:24
schestowitz-TRand that sums up why this is a shit economy that already exploded badly in 2008 and now we blame "war" and "covid"Jul 16 14:24
schestowitz-TRas if it was a matter of bad timing or misfortuneJul 16 14:24
schestowitz-TRbtw, I will send you parts 9-10 shortly (epo) for backupJul 16 14:24
schestowitz-TRit's VERY much connected to itJul 16 14:24
schestowitz-TRif you've followed the seriesJul 16 14:24
schestowitz-TRbubble makers as "financia experts"Jul 16 14:24
schestowitz-TRfucking stupid piece of shit idiotsJul 16 14:24
schestowitz-TRpeople whose skills is lyin g and lying and luyingJul 16 14:24
schestowitz-TRand manipulate at other people's expenseJul 16 14:24
schestowitz-TRlike examines who sold their sold to that shitty german orgJul 16 14:24
schestowitz-TRthinking they're just be doing "ecoademia" but for much better payJul 16 14:24
schestowitz-TR(not limited to EPO BTW, hence the importance, it happens in other orgs, but we don't have their data)Jul 16 14:24
Techrights-sec"invest" has morphed into being an euphemism for high risk gamblingJul 16 14:26
Techrights-secyes and no manufacturing to speak ofJul 16 14:26
Techrights-secackJul 16 14:26
Techrights-secif things go well, it is obviously because of wise choices and good ideas,Jul 16 14:26
Techrights-secif things go poorly, it is obviiously because of external factors   Jul 16 14:26
Techrights-secthose experts aren't any better than that hamster wasJul 16 14:26
Techrights-secin fact the hamster had a better track record for being right than they doJul 16 14:26
schestowitz-TR> "invest" has morphed into being an euphemism for high risk gamblingJul 16 14:26
schestowitz-TR\my dad lost ALL his money in 2008Jul 16 14:26
schestowitz-TReven had to get help from a cousin to be 'rescued'Jul 16 14:26
schestowitz-TRhe won't let that happen againJul 16 14:26
Techrights-sec:(Jul 16 14:29
Techrights-secackJul 16 14:29
schestowitz-TRmoney generqally loses value over timeJul 16 14:29
schestowitz-TRand they use that to promote gambling nowJul 16 14:29
schestowitz-TRbut, ime, the best panacea is learning to reduce expenses to a bare minimumJul 16 14:29
schestowitz-TRand geta ccustomed to itJul 16 14:29
schestowitz-TRI will shave shortly, it'll be dry shave while reading a bookJul 16 14:29
schestowitz-TRevery pound saved is several minutes earned for free time -- i.e. liberty to engage in an activity one choosesJul 16 14:29
schestowitz-TRnot "busy making money"Jul 16 14:29
schestowitz-TRBTW, did you see the video I made about css changed that I had applied?Jul 16 14:29
schestowitz-TRthe video was not aboiut the css, that was junk tinkering a bit to 'beatify' itJul 16 14:29
schestowitz-TRwith no images addedJul 16 14:29
Techrights-secno, I check the texts when possible but check very few of anybody's videosJul 16 14:30
Techrights-secper weekJul 16 14:30
Techrights-secSome CSS skill is needed to get past the barrier with the columns for theJul 16 14:30
Techrights-secmobile devices.  I am taking another look at that soon.Jul 16 14:30
schestowitz-TRwe don't even know how many access the site with "mobile"Jul 16 14:40
schestowitz-TRi imagine not THAT many peopleJul 16 14:40
schestowitz-TRas desktop gnu/linux enthusiats "get work done"(TM)Jul 16 14:40
schestowitz-TRand don't sip $7 latte at gatesbucksJul 16 14:40
schestowitz-TR(i'm no js or css guru, but I know without js it is possible to serve different css files to device types, like "mobile", "print" etc)Jul 16 14:40
schestowitz-TR(the practice, hoeever, is based on poor initial design or flawed thinking)Jul 16 14:40
schestowitz-TR(like having twoi faceplates for the same phone for "different occasions")Jul 16 14:40
Techrights-secit's more the principle of the matter.  the layout should be more flexibleJul 16 14:42
Techrights-secthat it is in regards to wrapping columns or whatever the process is calledJul 16 14:42
Techrights-secCSS is fine, for the most part, but a far cry from back when Bos and the othersJul 16 14:42
Techrights-secwere working on it. It's becoming overly complicated.  JS however has always  Jul 16 14:42
Techrights-secbeen poxyJul 16 14:42
Techrights-secThe only "mobile" aspect is to have it look / function nicely with a narrowJul 16 14:42
Techrights-secwindow in portrait mode rather than the usual wide window in landscape modeJul 16 14:42
schestowitz-TRstructurally I made no changes at allJul 16 14:44
schestowitz-TRbut I think ;enrolling' some files in git is well overdue nowJul 16 14:44
schestowitz-TResp. if we start making changes on some of the same filesJul 16 14:44
schestowitz-TRI made a full local backup of that dir last nightJul 16 14:44
schestowitz-TRboth rianne and I are connected to it atmJul 16 14:44
schestowitz-TRI am poting daily links, then have some epo stuff to publishJul 16 14:44
schestowitz-TRI am always pleased to cover epo issues becauseJul 16 14:44
schestowitz-TR1) it's the same as in many other placesJul 16 14:44
schestowitz-TR2) it's clear enough and has evidenceJul 16 14:44
schestowitz-TR3) it's connected to other orgs, so we expose them too (several bird,s, one stone)Jul 16 14:44
Techrights-sec... so that both workJul 16 14:47
Techrights-secI'll add Git next week then.  Jul 16 14:47
Techrights-secThanks, testing like that helpsJul 16 14:47
Techrights-secexcellent; I know I keep repeating myself but the EPO coverage is *very*    Jul 16 14:47
Techrights-secimportantJul 16 14:47
Techrights-secackJul 16 14:47
schestowitz-TRi'll keep quiet here to avoid geting ditracted while doing daily linksJul 16 14:47
schestowitz-TRi find it suppppper distracting to work after I speak on the phone with someoneJul 16 14:47
schestowitz-TRso must alloicate time and take a nap or break afterwardsJul 16 14:47
schestowitz-TR(IME)Jul 16 14:47
schestowitz-TRoh, one thing I noticed yesterday is,Jul 16 14:52
schestowitz-TRimplicit paragraphs by linebreaks of empty linesJul 16 14:52
schestowitz-TRdrupal and wordpress convert new paragraphs into <p></p> without having to enter these for each paraJul 16 14:52
schestowitz-TRin the current cms there is no such insertionJul 16 14:52
schestowitz-TRso all the paras appaear as one blockJul 16 14:52
schestowitz-TRnot sure if there is a simple fix for it, as when you enter daily linksJul 16 14:52
schestowitz-TRmaybe even htmltidy has some functionality to that effectJul 16 14:53
schestowitz-TRit has become so common just not in markdown but so many cms softwareJul 16 14:53
schestowitz-TRthat m,any people no longer even think they ned to explicitly mark the parasJul 16 14:53
Techrights-seca substitution could check for double linebreaks and convert them to paragraphsJul 16 15:00
Techrights-sectidy doesn't have that functionality but it can be added into the perl scriptJul 16 15:00
Techrights-secafaikJul 16 15:00
schestowitz-TRbtw, as per your links, lunduke has abadoned the onlyfans model after halving the price and now "unlocks" videos he Jul 16 15:05
schestowitz-TRhad recorded and published for ALL half a decade agoJul 16 15:05
schestowitz-TRnothing wrong witrh it per se, did he learn to self-host his videois at long last?Jul 16 15:05
schestowitz-TRhe deleted ALL the odysee videos (some we linked to, now broken) and almost all youtube videosJul 16 15:05
Techrights-secwhatever, I'm just glad he's covering important topics at least occasionally Jul 16 15:05
schestowitz-TRi put his sjvn-callout-thingie in front page of tuxmachinesJul 16 15:06
schestowitz-TRtoday I did not add new nodes to the test site so farJul 16 15:06
schestowitz-TRwill wait until further changes are made Jul 16 15:06
schestowitz-TRrianne finished work in 3 hours, can post to new and old in tandemJul 16 15:06
schestowitz-TR*finishesJul 16 15:06
Techrights-secfiguring out the regex for the aboveJul 16 15:07
schestowitz-TRI did perl one-line to convert two newlines into none Jul 16 15:08
schestowitz-TRdo you want me to find it?Jul 16 15:08
Techrights-secit's three lines ;)Jul 16 15:08
Techrights-secIt's all set, testing atmJul 16 15:08
Techrights-secbiabJul 16 15:08
Techrights-seclooks like it worksJul 16 15:12
Techrights-secI just added today's leftoveesJul 16 15:12
schestowitz-TRlooks like it worksJul 16 15:12
schestowitz-TRI just added today's leftoveesJul 16 15:12
schestowitz-TRoddly enough, in firefox, despite the </p><p>  Jul 16 15:15
schestowitz-TRit still shows the lines and paragraphs combined as one blockedJul 16 15:15
schestowitz-TRmaybe a css properltyJul 16 15:15
Techrights-seccontinuing nowJul 16 15:38
Techrights-secok finding a way to insert the pattern into the work flowJul 16 15:38
Techrights-secthe addition script will insert </p> <p> where multiple blank lines are foundJul 16 15:38
Techrights-secif the text is *not* part of an element already                         Jul 16 15:38
schestowitz-TRdoes that show up ok in chromium-derived browsers?Jul 16 15:38
schestowitz-TRin firefox it ignores thisJul 16 15:38
Techrights-sec                       Jul 16 15:42
Techrights-secno I know nothing about Alpine atmJul 16 15:42
schestowitzhttps://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/package/edge/main/x86/perlJul 16 15:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pkgs.alpinelinux.org | Alpine Linux packagesJul 16 15:45
schestowitz-TRalso, do we know for sure alpine has the requirded packages/deps?Jul 16 15:45
schestowitz-TRhttps://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/package/edge/main/x86/perlJul 16 15:45
schestowitz-TRi assume cpan can have them, no apt-getJul 16 15:55
schestowitz-TRnot sure what command on the hv (alpine) can show available modulesJul 16 15:55
Techrights-seccheckingJul 16 15:56
Techrights-sec$ awk '/^use/ {sub(";",""); print $2;}' /usr/local/bin/*.pl | sort -u | tr '\n' ' 'Jul 16 15:56
Techrights-sec5.32.1 CGI CGI::Carp CGI::Fast Data::Dumper Date::Calc DBI English File::Copy File::Path File::Temp Getopt::Std HTML::Entities HTML::TreeBuilder::XPath HTTP::Response::EncoJul 16 15:56
Techrights-secding IO::Socket::SSL LWP::UserAgent strict Time::ParseDate Time::Piece URI URI::Escape utf8 warnings XML::Feed Jul 16 15:56
Techrights-secmore correctly:Jul 16 15:56
Techrights-sec$ awk '/^use/ {sub(";",""); print $2;}' /usr/local/bin/tm-*.pl /usr/local/bin/rss-since-scraper.pl | sort -u | tr '\n' ' 'Jul 16 15:56
Techrights-secData::Dumper Date::Calc DBI English File::Copy File::Path File::Temp Getopt::Std HTML::Entities HTML::TreeBuilder::XPath HTTP::Response::Encoding LWP::UserAgent strict TimeJul 16 15:56
Techrights-sec::ParseDate Time::Piece URI URI::Escape utf8 warnings XML::Feed Jul 16 15:56
Techrights-secthe alpine link there is just to perl itself, not the modulesJul 16 15:56
schestowitz-TRwe've not chosen an OS yetJul 16 15:57
schestowitz-TRalso, fs repair is due firstJul 16 15:57
Techrights-secsome might be there, not sure about all,     Jul 16 15:58
Techrights-sechttps://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/packages?name=perl-dbi&branch=edge&arch=x86_64Jul 16 15:58
Techrights-secthere's oneJul 16 15:58
Techrights-secand another:Jul 16 15:58
Techrights-sechttps://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/package/edge/main/x86_64/perl-time-parsedateJul 16 15:58
Techrights-secAlpine or Devuan are fine, so is OpenBSDJul 16 15:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pkgs.alpinelinux.org | Alpine Linux packagesJul 16 15:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pkgs.alpinelinux.org | Alpine Linux packagesJul 16 15:58
schestowitzif you look at n/2022/07/16/embedded.shtmlJul 16 16:28
schestowitzthe source looks ok with <p> but it's rendered as one blockJul 16 16:28
schestowitzI'm not sure whyJul 16 16:28
schestowitzthe second item is "glandium.org » Blog Archive » Announcing git-cinnabar 0.5.9"Jul 16 16:29
schestowitzthe arrows get encoded incorrectly, maybe at the level of nano or dbJul 16 16:29
schestowitz-TRgoing to nap for a bitJul 16 16:34
schestowitz-TRgot permission from microsofter to publish an exposeJul 16 16:34
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schestowitz-TRoh, excellentJul 16 18:55
schestowitz-TRnow it has worked correctlyJul 16 18:55
schestowitz-TRthe new paragraphs, latest node added :-)Jul 16 18:55
schestowitz-TRI see you are improving "Other Sites" tooJul 16 18:56
schestowitz-TRit looks better now, the size was too large before, for syndicated stuffJul 16 18:56
schestowitz-TRmarius is now aware of upcoming changeJul 16 18:56
Techrights-secexcellentJul 16 18:57
Techrights-sectrying too, it still has a way to goJul 16 18:57
Techrights-secLWN feed is mostly unavailableJul 16 18:57
Techrights-secThe column still needs to move itself when the window narrows enoughJul 16 18:57
Techrights-secI hope Marius can test at some point, I don't want to bother him yet at the  Jul 16 18:57
Techrights-secsame time it is important to get feedback as early as possible.  Maybe afterJul 16 18:57
Techrights-secthe update script is added?Jul 16 18:57
Techrights-secThat's great news.  Jul 16 18:57
schestowitz-TRkaniini plans to work on the FS tonight, details in main channels (scrollback ~40 mins ago)Jul 16 18:57
Techrights-secChecking...Jul 16 18:58
Techrights-secamfora has no search function afaikJul 16 18:58
schestowitz-TREND, PAGEUP, PAGEUP...Jul 16 18:58
Techrights-secyes that's the method I use too but pressing / and then a string or ? and thenJul 16 18:59
Techrights-seca string is fasterJul 16 18:59
Techrights-secbut doesn't work in amforaJul 16 18:59
schestowitz-TRthese days I only use amfora for monitoringJul 16 19:00
schestowitz-TRfwiw, we now have 3 series running in parallel, not time-criticalJul 16 19:04
schestowitz-TR2 are about microsoftJul 16 19:04
schestowitz-TR1 epoJul 16 19:04
schestowitz-TRall of theem present new informationJul 16 19:04
schestowitz-TRI'm copying parts 9-10 nowJul 16 19:04
schestowitz-TRdoneJul 16 19:04
schestowitz-TR*(odf)Jul 16 19:04
Techrights-secgoodJul 16 19:04
Techrights-secEPO is most important but microsoft never stops being a problemJul 16 19:04
schestowitz-TRhad techrights now been around, or groklaw for that matter, the bullshitters Jul 16 19:05
schestowitz-TRwould face little resistance and maybe more people would have acceptedJul 16 19:05
schestowitz-TR"ok", maybe "Microsoft isn't that bad anymore.."Jul 16 19:05
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Techrights-secackJul 16 19:25
Techrights-sectoo many people are still pushing that talking point, 'maybe "Microsoft isn't that bad anymore..' even though they should know better. Judging by currentJul 16 19:25
Techrights-secand ongoing behavior they have not changed at all since the old daysJul 16 19:25
schestowitz-TRthere must be some formal name for this phenomenon, which gets exploited by the guiltyJul 16 19:27
schestowitz-TRincluding billGJul 16 19:27
schestowitz-TR"been a while since a bomb fell here, maybe I should look at the field ahead from my trench"Jul 16 19:27
schestowitz-TR"BOOM!" Jul 16 19:27
schestowitz-TR"oops, shit, wrong call, keep hiding"Jul 16 19:27
Techrights-secrevisionism?Jul 16 19:31
Techrights-secwell there is a complete and utter bullshit rhetorical method:Jul 16 19:31
Techrights-sechttps://blogs.helsinki.fi/pirttila/files/2008/08/The-Hamburger-method-of-constructive-criticism.pdfJul 16 19:31
Techrights-secthat people feel compelled to teach regardless of its inutility, and as a sideJul 16 19:31
Techrights-seceffect people try to use it, and as a side effect of that people lie or misleadJul 16 19:31
Techrights-secin order to try to dredge up a compliment even when none is availableJul 16 19:31
schestowitz-TRin political discourse it is a foprm of opportunismJul 16 19:32
schestowitz-TRa week or so ago in IRC I joked about thw word "reasonable"Jul 16 19:32
schestowitz-TRand gave SJVN as an exampleJul 16 19:32
schestowitz-TRbefore he wrote BS about Copilot (zdnet) and then MSFT (El Reg)Jul 16 19:32
schestowitz-TRSee?Jul 16 19:32
schestowitz-TRRMS is "OK" with MSFTJul 16 19:32
schestowitz-TRsays SJVNJul 16 19:32
schestowitz-TRSJVN is niceJul 16 19:32
schestowitz-TRwe are all "toxic"Jul 16 19:32
schestowitz-TR"hateful"Jul 16 19:32
schestowitz-TRand some peoplke try to advance this wayJul 16 19:32
schestowitz-TRSFC did this to FSFJul 16 19:32
schestowitz-TRseveral times overJul 16 19:32
schestowitz-TROliva LXO challenged them directly on itJul 16 19:32
schestowitz-TRusing optics and POR to gain advantageJul 16 19:32
schestowitz-TR*PR Jul 16 19:32
Techrights-sechttps://lifehacker.com/stop-using-the-sandwich-method-to-give-feedback-1776592001Jul 16 19:33
Techrights-secSJVN's latest piece is full of factual errors, he's not even trying any more :(Jul 16 19:33
Techrights-secAbout one of the only major mistakes RMS has made in his public life was toJul 16 19:33
Techrights-secvisit Redmond.Jul 16 19:33
Techrights-secackJul 16 19:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lifehacker.com | Stop Using the "Sandwich Method" to Give FeedbackJul 16 19:33
Techrights-sechttps://developerhood.com/blog/hamburger-isnt-a-suitable-shape-for-feedback/Jul 16 19:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Hamburger Isn’t a Suitable Shape for Feedback - DeveloperhoodJul 16 19:33
Techrights-sec.Jul 16 19:33
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> "In my humble opinion paying cash is a nice puzzle piece of resistance. I routinely pay cash for almost everything, that I buy locally. I have bought a number of fairly expensive things (for my personal definition of fairly expensive, that is) and payed several of them cash, e.g. a new motorcycle" gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/20220716-re-cash-ocalypse.gmiJul 16 19:34
schestowitz-TR "I've been, stupidly, using an email account that came with a free web page account. I figured - what harm could it be, it's free, it's been around... Now I want to get rid of it, but I am away from home, and there are some accounts I can't access to update the email address... So I am stuck." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-07-16.thunderbird.gmiJul 16 19:34
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schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> "Top shows that, running in the background with automatic email fetching shut off -- in other words, doing absolutely nothing -- it eats up about 5% CPU and 5% memory. That is a ridiculously large fraction of my machine -- for doing absolutely nothing. I have 8GB RAM), so the sleeping beauty needs 400 MB to do nothing. Is this a bad joke?" gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-07-16.thunderbird.gmiJul 16 19:34
britneyschestowitz-TR, ?Jul 16 19:37
schestowitz-TRwhat about, britney?Jul 16 19:39
Techrights-secackJul 16 19:39
britneyschestowitz-TR, why did you call my attention?Jul 16 19:39
schestowitz-TRwhere?Jul 16 19:41
schestowitz-TRoh, I ssee nowJul 16 19:41
schestowitz-TRI copy-pasted 3 linesJul 16 19:42
schestowitz-TRone got inserted in the middle, the IRC "JOIN"Jul 16 19:42
britneyyeah i was wondering what was up lolJul 16 19:42
schestowitz-TRshring this over ytalkJul 16 19:42
schestowitz-TRthere's a 'bridge' with IRCJul 16 19:42
britneyfair enoughJul 16 19:43
schestowitz-TR Gulag cannot wean itself off Linux and GPL, but it keeps trying https://9to5google.com/2022/07/15/android-removes-fuchsia-code-starnix/Jul 16 19:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Android removes Fuchsia code as Starnix project progresses - 9to5GoogleJul 16 19:46
Techrights-secusing SFTP for tm dump backups atmJul 16 19:55
Techrights-secusing SFTP fro tr dump backups atmJul 16 19:55
schestowitz-TRgood, thanks, hopefully we won't need to recover anything. I think this would stop the dump errors among others.Jul 16 19:56
schestowitz-TRand then we can have the fresh new OS and start deplying thingsJul 16 19:56
schestowitz-TRthinking aloudJul 16 20:22
schestowitz-TRwe create new nodeJul 16 20:22
schestowitz-TRinotify ir similar updates html and gemtext and rssJul 16 20:22
schestowitz-TRmy bot here needs tweaking to make the irc post with gemini url tooJul 16 20:22
schestowitz-TRagate picks up the new gmi immediatelyJul 16 20:22
schestowitz-TRit runs on the domain name over default port, 1965Jul 16 20:22
schestowitz-TRfrom the serverJul 16 20:22
schestowitz-TRcould run on timers or triggers invoked manuallyJul 16 20:22
schestowitz-TRlike afeter adding a nodeJul 16 20:22
schestowitz-TRif updates are done not directly to file but via interfaces, the right processes can be invoked tooJul 16 20:22
schestowitz-TRhttps likely with self-signed cert, maybe not advertised by defaultJul 16 20:22
schestowitz-TRso as to avoid nasty warnings, albeit it's supportedJul 16 20:22
Techrights-secbacked up, but not the public_html hierarchy, those would require rsyncJul 16 20:23
Techrights-secyes inotify would be good but is not available in this current architectureJul 16 20:23
Techrights-secthe scripts could trigger other scripts, yesJul 16 20:23
Techrights-secit'd be a waste to have anything in cron thoughJul 16 20:23
britneyschestowitz-TR, I wanted to ask you something. I know matey's opinion but I was wondering if you feel the same way. Can we trust FSF and GNU?Jul 16 20:24
schestowitz-TRnot in some senseJul 16 20:25
schestowitz-TRbecause they are brandJul 16 20:25
schestowitz-TRI trust rmsJul 16 20:25
schestowitz-TRbecause it's a person, not a labelJul 16 20:25
britneyMatey threw around the label MS-GNUJul 16 20:25
schestowitz-TRthat's an exaggerationJul 16 20:26
schestowitz-TRbecause of githubJul 16 20:26
britneyfair enoughJul 16 20:26
schestowitz-TRTechrights-sec: Jul 16 20:26
schestowitz-TRyes, the cron thing was for testingJul 16 20:26
schestowitz-TRI notice that while the updaste scripts run the front page can be emptiess for a second or twoJul 16 20:26
schestowitz-TRso interim file might be betterJul 16 20:27
schestowitz-TRprocess-this-thhing.sh -> temp && cp temp liveJul 16 20:27
schestowitz-TRmaybe with sanity check like file size to ensure it doesn't fail to liveJul 16 20:27
schestowitz-TRjust noticed that about a day ago all new posts were "posted by"Jul 16 20:43
schestowitz-TRwithout a name after thatJul 16 20:43
schestowitz-TRnot sure if suggestive of a new bug, thought I'd mention itJul 16 20:43
schestowitz-TRadded drop cap effect for first letter, it's starting to look more like the drupal site, sans the bloatJul 16 20:43
schestowitz-TRand almost no imagesJul 16 20:43
schestowitz-TR> Many companies scam their own staff by tricking them into "investing" their salaries (savings) in the company, artificially inflating a fake valuation that's bound to collapse, along with financial rewards supposedly having been given to staff. It's like companies buying back their own shares -- a form of embezzlement.Jul 16 20:54
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