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schestowitz-TRSarisGas and TheLiar did not worsen behavious of staff but did drive away some nicer people, so on average quialiOct 16 11:35
schestowitz-TRty decreasedOct 16 11:35
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schestowitz-TRthe hypothesis that skilled people follow killed people is common senseOct 16 11:39
schestowitz-TRdoing (I guess surveys) work to prove that can help validate the assumptionsOct 16 11:39
schestowitz-TRLOL Bryan Loca doing "Lifetime Subscription"Oct 16 11:41
techrights-secYes, Bryan is getting weirder and weirder.  It'd be ok if he produced some kindOct 16 11:43
techrights-secof useful content along the way, like he used to, but it's substance-free atOct 16 11:43
techrights-secthis point.  Oct 16 11:43
techrights-sec Oh, wait, there is something from yesterday: he rips zdnet ...Oct 16 11:49
schestowitz-TRif you mean the cartoon, he rips sjvn in The Register, not MSZDNetOct 16 11:53
schestowitz-TRand Lunduke himself is culpable with the "Linux sucks" BSOct 16 11:53
schestowitz-TRhe uploaded another "Linux sucks" video to youtube this yearOct 16 11:53
schestowitz-TRre that zdnet "year of desktop" article, which was actually SJVN in The Register   Oct 16 11:53
schestowitz-TR(maybe ZDNet turned down that article!)Oct 16 11:53
schestowitz-TRI did not read it, I filed it low down in "today's leftovers"Oct 16 11:53
schestowitz-TRso it's not unlisted but it won't get much traffic eitherOct 16 11:53
schestowitz-TRthis morning I saw some decent linux site linking to TMOct 16 11:53
schestowitz-TRnot sure since when...   Oct 16 11:53
schestowitz-TRif we post decent picks, people will, in due courts, appreciate itOct 16 11:53
schestowitz-TRoh, I see the article you mean now... not the cartoonOct 16 12:01
schestowitz-TRYes, I wrote about this subject many times beforeOct 16 12:01
techrights-secHe provides some good details.Oct 16 12:06
techrights-secs/good/useful/Oct 16 12:06
schestowitz-TRvpn snakeoil is notorious for itOct 16 12:07
schestowitz-TRbut even linux laptop companies do thisOct 16 12:07
schestowitz-TRI've added this to TMOct 16 12:07
schestowitz-TRalong with a new example of it in Also:Oct 16 12:07
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schestowitz-TRCOVID-19 Waves Leave People Dying in Much Bigger Numbers https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/16/bigger-numbers-post-covid19/Oct 16 15:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » COVID-19 Waves Leave People Dying in Much Bigger NumbersOct 16 15:15
schestowitz-TRnobody wants to say "vaccines"Oct 16 15:16
schestowitz-TRnor do I think it's the culpritOct 16 15:16
schestowitz-TRmaybe peple who recovered from itOct 16 15:16
schestowitz-TRafaik, aussie healthcare is not under attack like nhsOct 16 15:16
schestowitz-TRso looking across countries one can have a guess at the cause/sOct 16 15:16
techrights-sechttps://www.npr.org/2022/10/16/1128692167/yankee-candle-review-amazon-covid-twitter-study-covid19-pandemic-bidenOct 16 15:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.npr.org | What a viral study on Yankee candles can teach us about COVID data : NPROct 16 15:18
techrights-secNHS is under all kinds of attack, among other methods it is getting defundedOct 16 15:18
techrights-secand then ridiculed in the press owned by opponenets of the NHS for being   Oct 16 15:18
techrights-secunderfunded.  Oct 16 15:18
schestowitz-TRdoes BillPR disclose that it is funded by COVID-19 profiteer?Oct 16 15:19
schestowitz-TRor is this like the phenomenon lunduke ranted about?Oct 16 15:19
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techrights-secNPR tends to avoid mentioning their conflict of interests in regards to thatOct 16 15:31
techrights-secparticular funder.  It certainly killed their technology and technology policyOct 16 15:31
techrights-seccoverage completely dead.Oct 16 15:31
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schestowitz-TRunti l regimes bother to dtusy wth is going on AFTER the waves I'll stay parkingOct 16 15:32
schestowitz-TRjohn reached the same conclusion as me compltely independentlyOct 16 15:32
schestowitz-TRbased on the dataOct 16 15:32
schestowitz-TRand asked the same questionsOct 16 15:32
schestowitz-TRthen a friend told me about himOct 16 15:32
schestowitz-TRBillPR and BillBC replaced tech coverage with namecalling ("conspiracy theorist")Oct 16 15:32
schestowitz-TRnamecalling is what one does when there's no argument to be madeOct 16 15:32
schestowitz-TRaustralia's pop is not that largeOct 16 16:49
schestowitz-TRand I don't know their public site wellOct 16 16:49
schestowitz-TRI thought about downloading their dataOct 16 16:49
schestowitz-TRto study, for the most part, excess death by age bracketsOct 16 16:49
schestowitz-TRI'd rather focus on the data hereOct 16 16:49
schestowitz-TRas I know it betterOct 16 16:49
schestowitz-TRand know the language, units, conventionsOct 16 16:49
schestowitz-TRturns out gulagtube recommended that same video to rianne     Oct 16 16:49
schestowitz-TRthe algo feeds what she watchesOct 16 16:49
schestowitz-TRyet she insists she is in controlOct 16 16:49
schestowitz-TRbecause she chooses what to merely click onOct 16 16:49
schestowitz-TRthis means that, irrespective of censorship, gulag is in control of what channels succeed and which ones faiOct 16 16:49
schestowitz-TRlor which topics perishOct 16 16:49
schestowitz-TReither deranked and given no incentive to produce (e.g. "Linux")Oct 16 16:49
schestowitz-TRthis is a dangerous level of controlOct 16 16:49
schestowitz-TRwhen we had public TV itOct 16 16:49
schestowitz-TR1) was not intentionalOct 16 16:49
schestowitz-TR2) was not a single companyOct 16 16:49
techrights-sec:/Oct 16 16:49
techrights-secMost peope, even intelligent, well-educated ones, don't understand algorithmicOct 16 16:49
techrights-secmanipulation.  Pick a card, any card -- from this tiny subset ...Oct 16 16:49
techrights-secTwitter and the other social control media examples do that with whole topicsOct 16 16:49
techrights-secof discussion, not just "hashtags".Oct 16 16:49
schestowitz-TRI protested a lot abotu 5 years ago when twitter was "becoming facebook"Oct 16 16:51
schestowitz-TRand I explained whyOct 16 16:51
schestowitz-TRI managed to filter that out or mitigate in a number of waysOct 16 16:51
schestowitz-TRbut other people don't use it the same wayOct 16 16:51
schestowitz-TRI can provide specifics if you are interestedOct 16 16:51
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techrights-secIt still comes down to people being shown a selected subset of material,Oct 16 17:04
techrights-secthat in and of itself skews the situation.Oct 16 17:04
schestowitz-TRright, so a two-levelOct 16 17:04
schestowitz-TRculling of "Creators" and/or "Content"Oct 16 17:04
schestowitz-TRthen, deranking or shaddwbanning some Oct 16 17:04
schestowitz-TRthe term for this is "social engineering"Oct 16 17:05
techrights-secThe order or sequence in which topics are shown matters *a lot* too,Oct 16 17:06
techrights-secnot just stuff which falls off the end of the page, but also which items Oct 16 17:06
techrights-secare shown before other items.  People have been shown to adopt positions basedOct 16 17:06
techrights-secon incomplete or downright wrong content posing as information.  Then, onceOct 16 17:06
techrights-sectheir initial opinion has been shaped, almost all of them dig in and are Oct 16 17:06
techrights-secmore or less immune to any subsequent data regardless of the accuracy or weight.Oct 16 17:06
techrights-secThat would be one form of "social engineering" I guessOct 16 17:06
schestowitz-TR"OK, so that photo of the door was of a fake sign, but RMS is a pervert anyway..."Oct 16 17:07
techrights-secBasicallyOct 16 17:08
schestowitz-TR➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Rant: wordpress & privacy - self hosted instances upload all content to their CDN servers i2.wp.com imho without consent and no possibility to delete? ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Rant_wordpress_privacy_self_hosted_instances_upload_all_content.shtmOct 16 17:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Rant_wordpress_privacy_self_hosted_instances_upload_all_content.shtm )Oct 16 17:14
techrights-secackOct 16 17:20
schestowitz-TRgetting au dataOct 16 17:49
schestowitz-TR5 ooxml filesOct 16 17:49
schestowitz-TRconverting to odfOct 16 17:49
schestowitz-TRthat alone would be a good serviceOct 16 17:49
techrights-secackOct 16 17:49
techrights-secThere are no ooxml just mso of some variantOct 16 17:49
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techrights-secStreaming javascript waste a lot of electricityOct 16 18:35
techrights-sechttps://abcnews.go.com/US/video/family-elephants-feasts-giant-pumpkins-oregon-zoo-91486376Oct 16 18:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-abcnews.go.com | Video Family of elephants feasts on giant pumpkins at the Oregon Zoo - ABC NewsOct 16 18:35
schestowitz-TRthanksOct 16 18:43
schestowitz-TRwill pass to rianneOct 16 18:43
schestowitz-TRI did two posts about aussiaOct 16 18:44
schestowitz-TRit was not as interesting as I assumedOct 16 18:44
schestowitz-TRas only in 2022 the virus truly penetrated au and nzOct 16 18:44
schestowitz-TRwhich explains the surgeOct 16 18:44
schestowitz-TR2023 might be more interestingOct 16 18:44
schestowitz-TRAFTER it managed millions of peopleOct 16 18:44
schestowitz-TRrianne will try that linkOct 16 18:48
schestowitz-TRI cannot play the video in falkonOct 16 18:48
schestowitz-TRor in librewoldOct 16 18:48
schestowitz-TRit's 2022 and web videos don't workOct 16 18:48
schestowitz-TRunless you run a whole dedicate VM with proprietary programsOct 16 18:48
schestowitz-TRlovelt!Oct 16 18:48
techrights-secackOct 16 18:58
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