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schestowitzRe: oliva murders someone and provides his own defense> (parody)Dec 16 03:33
schestowitz> Dec 16 03:33
schestowitz> "the first thing about this case is this idea of murder. i havent read aDec 16 03:33
schestowitz> lot about it, but i think that it involves killing someone.Dec 16 03:33
schestowitz> Dec 16 03:33
schestowitz> im not sure if we can call this murder, because there are lots of waysDec 16 03:33
schestowitz> for someone to die. for example, they could be sick or old. is beingDec 16 03:33
schestowitz> around a dying person murder necessarily? if you work in a rest home orDec 16 03:33
schestowitz> hospice, does that make you a murderer? i find this interesting but imDec 16 03:33
schestowitz> not sure if it tells us what we need to know about this.Dec 16 03:33
schestowitz> Dec 16 03:33
schestowitz> also, there are a lot of things that can be said about death. although iDec 16 03:33
schestowitz> was charged with murdering this person, are we certain they are in fact,Dec 16 03:33
schestowitz> dead? there was a medical examiner, but since death is a lack of life,Dec 16 03:33
schestowitz> what was there for this person to actually observe? how can they claimDec 16 03:33
schestowitz> to know about something that isnt there?"Dec 16 03:33
schestowitz> Dec 16 03:33
schestowitz> you know the more i think about it, the more oliva reminds me of--Dec 16 03:33
schestowitz> Dec 16 03:33
schestowitz> oh, ive got it!Dec 16 03:33
schestowitz> Dec 16 03:33
schestowitz> oliva is michael palin in the dead parrot sketch!Dec 16 03:33
schestowitz> Dec 16 03:33
schestowitz> "oh yeah, debian! lovely distro innit? beautiful init system... whatsDec 16 03:33
schestowitz> wrong with it?"Dec 16 03:33
schestowitz> Dec 16 03:33
schestowitz> "ill tell you whats wrong with it mate, its stone dead!"Dec 16 03:33
schestowitz> Dec 16 03:33
schestowitz> "no, e's just authenticating dhcp!"Dec 16 03:33
schestowitz> Dec 16 03:33
schestowitz> "authenticating dhcp? thats a laugh, when i first booted this system 3Dec 16 03:33
schestowitz> hours ago, i was told this distro would start up faster than everDec 16 03:33
schestowitz> before. by the time it authenticates ill be retired and in a home!"Dec 16 03:33
schestowitz> Dec 16 03:33
schestowitz> "naahhhhh, its very fast. it probably just wanted to authenticate againDec 16 03:34
schestowitz> after booting several times, just to 'ave something to do while waitingDec 16 03:34
schestowitz> for a task to perform. very 'ard worker, debian!"Dec 16 03:34
schestowitz> Dec 16 03:34
schestowitz> "look mate, ive had just about enough of this!"Dec 16 03:34
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9pxYA2tjkKSI2yr0qGDec 16 03:43
schestowitz"...............honouring GT is fine...but forgetting Assange is cruel"Dec 16 03:43
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9pxYmmRmqNKAJsFbl2Dec 16 03:43
schestowitz"@schestowitz dovetails quite close with https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/insidious-former-asio-boss-warns-on-chinese-interference-in-australia-20191121-p53cv2.html"Dec 16 03:43
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.smh.com.au | China interference in Australia 'insidious', says former ASIO boss Duncan LewisDec 16 03:43
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9pyWHyoknN3ixU8fEuDec 16 03:43
schestowitz"Huawei should shit or get off the pot"Dec 16 03:43
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9pytCVMHC8iP5dB1wuDec 16 03:43
schestowitz"didn't see a translated version."Dec 16 03:43
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9pz6fyC0MpYgJtkjwWDec 16 03:43
schestowitz"that's a funny way of saying that pro-brexit parties have the most seats"Dec 16 03:43
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9pzC0gsqPswaUNUTNwDec 16 03:44
schestowitz"@schestowitz easy way around it is to just liberate those services and make one service with all their features and the mechanisms they wish to introduce into such services. No reason those services cannot continue to supply whatever FB wanted to inject in them. I am sure the present users of those services don't care less about any abuse FB does. As long as the service is gratis."Dec 16 03:44
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9pzCAU4Wu7xZeOcsN6Dec 16 03:44
schestowitz"@schestowitz remember the cobra chopper? Remember how modular the weapons were? One could detach and hand-operate any weapon system from a downed Cobra is what I read."Dec 16 03:44
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9pzIEVfTVognU2D476Dec 16 03:45
schestowitz"we don't need climate 'justice', we need a humanity-friendly biosphere.  Justice doesn't enter the picture at that level"Dec 16 03:45
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9pzNXrKbgxCfwbUjaqDec 16 03:45
schestowitz" Thanks for sharing your experience. Just started myself learning #Godot"Dec 16 03:45
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9pzbRzCcud3xyer79UDec 16 03:45
schestowitz"@schestowitz ahahahah... That's true!"Dec 16 03:45
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9pzye9m5jIJBBdDTm4Dec 16 03:46
schestowitz"Mastodon is missing on the site."Dec 16 03:46
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9pzyuPS5D3EuRTbjX6Dec 16 03:46
schestowitz"And I think F-Droid is a false positive, they are on Gitlab."Dec 16 03:46
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schestowitzwill fix...Dec 16 03:47
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9q04CQU2c1hAcnvxZIDec 16 03:47
schestowitz"...seems to be released on the #nsamicrosoft walled garden. #fuckinggithub"Dec 16 03:47
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9q05FkXyZbHXfovHyyDec 16 03:47
schestowitz" this website would be a great place to put forks of github projects outside of github (like my oh, 200 forks)"Dec 16 03:47
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9q0G60DYYQTUsJvVmyDec 16 03:48
schestowitz"Dec 16 03:48
schestowitzIt's hard to measure these things accurately.Dec 16 03:48
schestowitz Especially when a lot of Apache httpd users hide it behind nginx, Træfik, HAProxy, etc.Dec 16 03:48
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schestowitz'Dec 16 03:48
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schestowitzone more for today's batch:Dec 16 04:24
schestowitzGraph & timeline of Pi SalesDec 16 04:24
schestowitzhttps://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=75996&start=75#p1580905Dec 16 04:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.raspberrypi.org | Graph & timeline of Pi Sales - Page 4 - Raspberry Pi ForumsDec 16 04:25
schestowitz"Darn, resume from suspend is still broken for R9-390 GPUs."Dec 16 04:35
schestowitzhttps://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1145749-linux-5-5-rc2-kernel-released#post1145749Dec 16 04:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.phoronix.com | Linux 5.5-rc2 Kernel Released - Phoronix ForumsDec 16 04:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/unixterminal/status/1206366102894383104Dec 16 04:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@unixterminal: @schestowitz An official Debian image is available for WSL. https://t.co/YbDGVdnmsEDec 16 04:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.microsoft.com | Get Debian - Microsoft StoreDec 16 04:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/unixterminal/status/1206377984426426368Dec 16 04:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@unixterminal: @schestowitz Microsoft filed briefs in Oracle v. Google on behalf of Google arguing against copyright protection fo… https://t.co/3iDaVvjzXWDec 16 04:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@unixterminal: @schestowitz Microsoft filed briefs in Oracle v. Google on behalf of Google arguing against copyright protection fo… https://t.co/3iDaVvjzXWDec 16 04:38
schestowitz"Microsoft filed briefs in Oracle v. Google on behalf of Google arguing against copyright protection for APIs, like the Win32 API that WINE re-implements. Microsoft specifically cited open source software in its brief. PDF: https://supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/18/18-956/89566/20190225161900311_Brief%20of%20Microsoft%20Corporation%20as%20Amicus%20Curiae.pdf"Dec 16 04:38
schestowitzhis tweets are liked only by Microsoft employeesDec 16 04:41
schestowitzmy birthday this tuesdayDec 16 04:44
schestowitzcan you and Y join us for a little dinner after the gym (we're paying)?Dec 16 04:44
schestowitz(message to friend)Dec 16 04:44
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oiaohmschestowitz: wine goes back to https://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-234.htm   Wine re-implement if Microsoft attacked would turn into a Samba argument what would possible force Microsoft to work on wine..Dec 16 05:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.ecma-international.org | Standard ECMA-234Dec 16 05:12
schestowitz>> [04:38] <schestowitz> "Microsoft filed briefs in Oracle v. Google onDec 16 05:29
schestowitz>> behalf of Google arguing against copyright protection for APIs, like theDec 16 05:29
schestowitz>> Win32 API that WINE re-implements. Microsoft specifically cited openDec 16 05:29
schestowitz>> source software in its brief. PDF:Dec 16 05:29
schestowitz>> https://supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/18/18-956/89566/20190225161900311_Brief%20of%20Microsoft%20Corporation%20as%20Amicus%20Curiae.pdf"Dec 16 05:29
schestowitz>> [04:41] <schestowitz> his tweets are liked only by Microsoft employeesDec 16 05:29
schestowitz>>Dec 16 05:29
schestowitz> Yes, that is more circumstantial evidence.  Eventually some hardDec 16 05:29
schestowitz> evidence against him will turn up.Dec 16 05:29
schestowitzBetter not bark until we have something of substance. Techrights isn't even naming him yet.Dec 16 05:29
schestowitz> You are so kind RoyDec 16 07:27
schestowitz> Unfortunately I have to go to the VC professorial evening on Tuesday so cannot make this - I will try to cal in tomorrow afternoon to say happy birthday- still in Romania at the momentDec 16 07:27
schestowitzOK, let's make the dinner some time later (date not crucial)Dec 16 07:27
schestowitz>> Maybe DNS timeout at your end? Check with wget or similar.Dec 16 07:36
schestowitz> wget is what i used to get the speed in the first place.Dec 16 07:36
schestowitz> Dec 16 07:36
schestowitz> ive ruled out dns, in fact the speed wouldnt enter into it if the dns timed out. the speed is the download rate after the dns resolves, which it does instantaneously.Dec 16 07:36
schestowitz> Dec 16 07:36
schestowitz> however, its likely you can ignore this at this point. my connection seems to have aspects of dialup speed and aspects of high speed. if everything were slow i wouldnt be able to do much. instead, its as if small things are slow and large things are somewhat reasonable, for some things at least, but not only on techrights. this makes wiki editing and loading pictures tedious, but i can still do other things.Dec 16 07:36
schestowitz> Dec 16 07:36
schestowitz> i think the technical term for this is "wonky." i should ask my isp, ill let you know when it resolves. but i no longer think this has anything to do with tr specifically. cheers.Dec 16 07:36
schestowitzAs long as throttling does not target us specifically, I'd not worry. Remember we're banned in ALLLL EPO branches. Blocked from 7,000 workers.Dec 16 07:36
schestowitz>     Remember we're banned in ALLLL EPO branches. Blocked from 7,000 workers.Dec 16 09:00
schestowitz> Dec 16 09:00
schestowitz> Dec 16 09:01
schestowitz> Dec 16 09:01
schestowitz> *i recommend you not lose track of the next two...*Dec 16 09:01
schestowitzSites are OK.Dec 16 09:04
schestowitzThanks for phoning to let me know.Dec 16 09:04
schestowitzI guess the mystery then becomes, why no route to network...Dec 16 09:04
schestowitzSites are OK.Dec 16 09:04
schestowitzThanks for phoning to let me know.Dec 16 09:04
schestowitzI guess the mystery then becomes, why no route to network...Dec 16 09:04
schestowitz> DNS is not an issue, it does not respond to ping even directly to theDec 16 09:05
schestowitz> IPv4 address:Dec 16 09:05
schestowitz> Dec 16 09:05
schestowitz> $ ping -n -c 1 -w 1xxDec 16 09:05
schestowitz> PING 1xxxx 56(84) bytes of data.Dec 16 09:05
schestowitz> Dec 16 09:05
schestowitz> --- xxxxxxx ping statistics ---Dec 16 09:05
schestowitz> 1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 0msDec 16 09:05
schestowitz> Dec 16 09:05
schestowitz> Thus TM and TR are also down.  I'm not able to correct anything with HVDec 16 09:05
schestowitz> so I gave a call to let you know that it is out.Dec 16 09:05
schestowitzMaybe the ISP filtering at the DC went wrong?Dec 16 09:05
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schestowitz>>> I'm able to get through to my e-mail account but not HV still.Dec 16 11:26
schestowitz>> Seems like a network-level issue. Do you want me to ping the ISP at theDec 16 11:26
schestowitz>> DC about it through my contact (kaniini)? I don't think I ever have hisDec 16 11:26
schestowitz>> phone number! :-pDec 16 11:26
schestowitz> Nah.  It seems to have sorted itself out now.  It sure took a longDec 16 11:26
schestowitz> while.  Some regional sites were also unavailable, so something wasDec 16 11:26
schestowitz> wrong here perhaps at the national level.Dec 16 11:26
schestowitz> Dec 16 11:26
schestowitz>>> The 3G/4G modem still has similar problem but reaches a few more sitesDec 16 11:26
schestowitz>>> than the fibre.Dec 16 11:26
schestowitz>> I had similar issues in the past, albeit for no more than 10 minutes,Dec 16 11:26
schestowitz>> with my ISP. I assumed there was an issue with switching. A month ago IDec 16 11:26
schestowitz>> could not access TWITTER.... for an HOUR... Rianne could not either.Dec 16 11:26
schestowitz>> That's a big site... and it wasn't actually down. For BT to screw upDec 16 11:26
schestowitz>> like this.... imagine a small ISP in another country. Can you SSH toDec 16 11:26
schestowitz>> some other network and hop onto HV from there?Dec 16 11:26
schestowitz> I tried SSH via elsewhere but was unable to get to the other machines asDec 16 11:26
schestowitz> well.  Some sites in this country were also unavailable.  Strange.  WhenDec 16 11:26
schestowitz> there is a major outage the news often gives a heads up.Dec 16 11:26
schestowitz> Dec 16 11:26
schestowitz> Remember that yesterday, LQ was getting accessed via Moscow from here ...Dec 16 11:26
schestowitz> Dec 16 11:26
schestowitz>> I can let you use myDec 16 11:26
schestowitz>> machines as a hopping point if you want as I don't need your promiseDec 16 11:26
schestowitz>> that you won't poke around  with my files... we have trust. :-)Dec 16 11:26
schestowitz> I appreciate the thought but would be concerned about the end pointsDec 16 11:26
schestowitz> here.  If there were a locked-down Raspberry Pi or other SBC or similarDec 16 11:26
schestowitz> at your end then that would be ok.Dec 16 11:26
schestowitz> Dec 16 11:26
schestowitz> By the way if you would like to bounce off my router, just make a publicDec 16 11:26
schestowitz> SSH key and I can add an account for you to use as a SOCKS proxy.Dec 16 11:26
schestowitz> Dec 16 11:26
schestowitz>> I got a complete DB copy this morning, on my external HDD.Dec 16 11:27
schestowitz> Good.  I got the sites' backups copied via rsync this morning too.Dec 16 11:27
schestowitzI have one more shift at work (tonight), them birthday, then I'll have more time for the sites. Rianne keeps tuxmachines on top; she finished work last night.Dec 16 11:27
schestowitz>> Bad news: we lost monitoring, you cannot do your work on the siteDec 16 11:27
schestowitz>>Dec 16 11:27
schestowitz>> Good news: the sites do in fact still workDec 16 11:27
schestowitz>>Dec 16 11:28
schestowitz>> Neutral: we know the culprit is the network, likely not the DC/ISP ofDec 16 11:28
schestowitz>> the sitesDec 16 11:28
schestowitz>>Dec 16 11:28
schestowitz>> What to do next? I am not sure. I took 5 minutes to start thunderbirdDec 16 11:28
schestowitz>> just to look into it. It's really how long it takes me to start my mailDec 16 11:28
schestowitz>> client and check mail :( old issueDec 16 11:28
schestowitz> I can log into HV, TR, and TM now.Dec 16 11:28
schestowitz> Dec 16 11:28
schestowitz> Not sure what to try next as far as forensics.  It was definitely aDec 16 11:28
schestowitz> serious networking problem.  I could reach some domains by HTTPS but notDec 16 11:28
schestowitz> SSH.  I don't suppose sslh would have worked but that not only needsDec 16 11:28
schestowitz> root access but must be set up in advance and might not work anyway.Dec 16 11:28
schestowitz> Dec 16 11:28
schestowitz> In other news, I see that my fibre connection still does support IPv6,Dec 16 11:28
schestowitz> so I will have to update both my main router and my skill set to takeDec 16 11:28
schestowitz> advantage of that.Dec 16 11:28
schestowitzI think we have 3-4 fictional routers (hubs actually) lying about, as BT sent us several back when we have severe issues with themDec 16 11:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/keepyourwings/status/1206575284822192129Dec 16 14:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@keepyourwings: With Johnson in government these bosses will feel encouraged. #unions https://t.co/z1gM7OlyJ5Dec 16 14:12
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/chrismatthieu/status/1206558162456723461Dec 16 14:13
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Flavia0847/status/1206557108843495427Dec 16 14:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Flavia0847: The first thing the kids will learn to 'work around'. https://t.co/2mSGSjfRJ2Dec 16 14:14
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