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schestowitz> Roy,May 17 00:05
schestowitz>  May 17 00:05
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schestowitz>     Hey, it's not like techrights is always polite, either.May 17 00:05
schestowitz> May 17 00:05
schestowitz>     When it doesn't need to be polite.May 17 00:05
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schestowitz> I sent email to Eben Moglen this morning and copied it to a couple ofMay 17 00:05
schestowitz> board members. It wasn't the cease and desist letter; that goes to theMay 17 00:05
schestowitz> FSF board and will come soon.May 17 00:05
schestowitz> May 17 00:05
schestowitz> I feel in my bones exactly what's going on - and that I need to addressMay 17 00:05
schestowitz> it right now.May 17 00:05
schestowitz> May 17 00:05
schestowitz> It's like the time my dog was poisoned. I didn't know he was poisoned,May 17 00:05
schestowitz> just that he was ill. Every time I thought I would take him to the vet IMay 17 00:05
schestowitz> just felt this dark shadow. I don't know how else to explain it. It wasMay 17 00:05
schestowitz> inexplicable; I just didn't want to go there. Eventually logic dictatedMay 17 00:05
schestowitz> that I had to take the dog to the vet. The vet killed him. I'm certainMay 17 00:05
schestowitz> that the defendants paid him to do it.May 17 00:05
schestowitz> May 17 00:05
schestowitz> Have a nice day!May 17 00:05
schestowitz> Apologies for the late response, I've got QuiteRss in my system. May 17 00:09
schestowitz> May 17 00:09
schestowitz> RegardsMay 17 00:09
schestowitznow try to locate, on the Web, various RSS feeds of sites that give news on web technologies that you like and are Free/Open Source software. I already cover perl, python, django, rust and a few other things. If you can find sources for news about other things, then we'll have broader scope of coverage in the site. I'll set you up with an account this week for posting.May 17 00:09
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schestowitz> Can you sent an email to that site/LF to ask them why the articles wereMay 17 00:31
schestowitz> removed? Depending on their reply, we might be able to reproduced all these.May 17 00:31
schestowitz> May 17 00:31
schestowitz> WHAT????May 17 00:31
schestowitz> May 17 00:31
schestowitz>> Depending on their reply, we might be able to reproduced all these.May 17 00:31
schestowitz> Sorry if I'm not that optimistic. Nor do I send emails to the Empire. It's a slippery slope-- I start doing that, next thing you know it's rude postcards to Dick Cheney.May 17 00:31
schestowitz> May 17 00:31
schestowitz>> to that siteMay 17 00:31
schestowitz> They don't know any more about it than you or I. They have no connection to them whatsoever.May 17 00:31
schestowitzIf they don't respond to that question, then we might say... OK, they're not even responding, so taking matters into our own hands by making copies of the articles is courtesy to the original authors.May 17 00:31
schestowitzhttps://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=20/05/16/0235226May 17 09:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-soylentnews.org | Nine in Ten Biz Applications Harbor Out-of-Date, Unsupported, Insecure Open-Source Code, Study Shows - SoylentNewsMay 17 09:15
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1261964483230081024May 17 11:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz IPO is also the source of the UPC 'compromise' to reuse art118 TFEU, which was designed for the Commun… https://t.co/wD35dc1lqpMay 17 11:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz IPO is also the source of the UPC 'compromise' to reuse art118 TFEU, which was designed for the Commun… https://t.co/wD35dc1lqpMay 17 11:40
schestowitz"IPO is also the source of the UPC 'compromise' to reuse art118 TFEU, which was designed for the Community Patent, not a repaint of the European Patent."May 17 11:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/denspier/status/1261959031515725824May 17 11:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@denspier: @schestowitz @glynmoody @glynmoody, Voice of Europe is a questionable site to say the least, extreme far right, jus… https://t.co/cd2Aw5X3GRMay 17 11:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@denspier: @schestowitz @glynmoody @glynmoody, Voice of Europe is a questionable site to say the least, extreme far right, jus… https://t.co/cd2Aw5X3GRMay 17 11:41
schestowitz"May 17 11:41
schestowitz@glynmoodyMay 17 11:41
schestowitz, Voice of Europe is a questionable site to say the least, extreme far right, just publishing sensational stories, only partly correct or totally made up. (Site registered to Annemiek Ploumen, financed by Erik De Vlieger and Daan van Seventer is the tech guy.May 17 11:41
schestowitz"May 17 11:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/denspier/status/1261959031515725824May 17 11:41
schestowitzMinutes apart I also posted a link to the original source, in Swedish, with Google Translate. English media not covering this...May 17 11:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1261960376628981761May 17 11:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: @denspier @schestowitz well, the story tries to criticise the move, but I think it actually emphasises sweden's generosity...May 17 11:42
schestowitzI am aware that this site is an unsavoury one, should have added "caution", but find me another source in English that covers it...May 17 11:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/denspier/status/1261970553126166528May 17 11:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@denspier: @glynmoody @schestowitz Just wanted to be sure you knew what kind of site Voice of Europe is, they twist everything… https://t.co/ekYO1SRL3sMay 17 11:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@denspier: @glynmoody @schestowitz Just wanted to be sure you knew what kind of site Voice of Europe is, they twist everything… https://t.co/ekYO1SRL3sMay 17 11:44
schestowitz"Just wanted to be sure you knew what kind of site Voice of Europe is, they twist everything to the unrecognizable. The move was initiated by IMF, and more of a technicality than a case of generosity (or stupidity as the site put it) by Sweden or any of all the other countries."May 17 11:44
schestowitz I complained about this site before (myself)May 17 11:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/salegot1/status/1261934159955496961May 17 11:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@salegot1: @schestowitz @whosaidthis_bot ● removalMay 17 11:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/TeaCryptLib/status/1261933814982549504May 17 11:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TeaCryptLib: @schestowitz @LlnuxBot i'll readMay 17 11:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/unixbhaskar/status/1261922305719955456May 17 11:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@unixbhaskar: @schestowitz @glynmoody Hmmmm @mdidonato1 :)May 17 11:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1261920952444747777May 17 11:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: #Iran is a barbarous country https://t.co/WLVFx0i238May 17 11:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #alarabiya #religion #iran ☞ Iran sentences young Christian woman to 10 lashes, three months in prison https://t.co/1TFmrNNCEBMay 17 11:48
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1261872152841781249May 17 11:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz If banks are not working when we need them, we should seriously think about replacing them.May 17 11:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/surveillabuse/status/1261785070190366724May 17 11:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@surveillabuse: True. https://t.co/OjyYkvOIEcMay 17 11:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: @khrafnsson @wikileaks US: if you expose our war crimes and corruption we will execute you no matter where you are and where you’re fromMay 17 11:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1261689543914332160May 17 11:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: @schestowitz certainlyMay 17 11:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/denspier/status/1261972418844938245May 17 11:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@denspier: @schestowitz @glynmoody https://t.co/CxsIVQU7Ot if anyone care to explore the details and their Swedish reading ski… https://t.co/ouDalBlH5xMay 17 11:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.riksdagen.se | Medgivande för Riksbanken att delta i Internationella valutafondens finansieringslösning Finansutskottets Betänkande 2019/20:FiU47 - RiksdagenMay 17 11:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@denspier: @schestowitz @glynmoody https://t.co/CxsIVQU7Ot if anyone care to explore the details and their Swedish reading ski… https://t.co/ouDalBlH5xMay 17 11:54
schestowitz/"May 17 11:54
schestowitzhttps://riksdagen.se/sv/dokument-lagar/arende/betankande/medgivande-for-riksbanken-att-delta-i_H701FiU47May 17 11:54
schestowitz if anyone care to explore the details and their Swedish reading skills. Otherwise IMF will probably have the details in more languages.May 17 11:54
schestowitz"May 17 11:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-riksdagen.se | Medgivande för Riksbanken att delta i Internationella valutafondens finansieringslösning Finansutskottets Betänkande 2019/20:FiU47 - RiksdagenMay 17 11:54
schestowitzI don't think IMF should even be paid back. they monetise agonyMay 17 11:55
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sxpert1/status/1261975612023078912\May 17 13:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@sxpert1: @zoobab @schestowitz the word you're looking for is "transferred"May 17 13:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1261973777493241856May 17 13:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz The author of Art118 was also suddenly 'muted' to another department of the Commission, apparently bec… https://t.co/DsPtwf1JuPMay 17 13:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz The author of Art118 was also suddenly 'muted' to another department of the Commission, apparently bec… https://t.co/DsPtwf1JuPMay 17 13:23
schestowitz"The author of Art118 was also suddenly 'muted' to another department of the Commission, apparently because he was opposing resistance to such legal hack https://unitary-patent.eu/content/legal-"May 17 13:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.unitary-patent.eu/content/legal- )May 17 13:23
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/denspier/status/1261972418844938245https://twitter.com/denspier/status/1261972418844938245https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1262114419439546370May 17 23:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: Monsanto should be euthanized. Same for Bayer. And Nestle: Groups Like 'No Patents on Seeds!' and 'Friends of the E… https://t.co/K1w3mPqRAaMay 17 23:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: Monsanto should be euthanized. Same for Bayer. And Nestle: Groups Like 'No Patents on Seeds!' and 'Friends of the E… https://t.co/K1w3mPqRAaMay 17 23:15
schestowitz"Monsanto should be euthanized. Same for Bayer. And Nestle: Groups Like 'No Patents on Seeds!' and 'Friends of the Earth Germany' Respond to Bayer's GMO Patents (Previously Monsanto) in Light of EPO's Watered-Down Decision"May 17 23:15
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9v8r6bMOCBen2mNXPcMay 17 23:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaMay 17 23:29
schestowitz"W3C as well, while we're at it. The blatant dominance of corporate interests over stated missions in these relatively transparent standards bodies should be making people wonder what's going on in the opaque halls of regulatory bodies."May 17 23:29
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9v8o4W46bxGmBF8mSeMay 17 23:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaMay 17 23:29
schestowitz"May 17 23:29
schestowitzI would only add to that ...at dealing with @covid19 May 17 23:29
schestowitzthey will be very useful for mass surveillance and other ends.  Having a big chunk of code that google AND apple will push to every user?  That is a huge win for some actors.May 17 23:29
schestowitzFor example.  It makes having a free OS much harder, if it's legally mandated.May 17 23:29
schestowitz"May 17 23:30
schestowitzI would only add to that ...at dealing with @covid19 May 17 23:30
schestowitzthey will be very useful for mass surveillance and other ends.  Having a big chunk of code that google AND apple will push to every user?  That is a huge win for some actors.May 17 23:30
schestowitzFor example.  It makes having a free OS much harder, if it's legally mandated."May 17 23:30
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9v8j95wEg7XCpHp7DcMay 17 23:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaMay 17 23:30
schestowitz"It was predictable from the beginning that Trump would never #DrainTheSwamp but replace him by his own."May 17 23:30
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9v7gBRa6ge91VewQjYMay 17 23:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaMay 17 23:31
schestowitz"May 17 23:31
schestowitznot all microsoft. :^)May 17 23:31
schestowitzVS Code is a great product, and it's almost entirely free software. (The official binary packages have some spy nonsense in them.) Microsoft is not one entity, one company, one strategy. In fact there used to be a cartoon floating around that rendered Microsoft as a bunch of business unit silos engaged in a Mexican stand-off.May 17 23:31
schestowitz"May 17 23:31
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9v6zHO8k6AtYXqjKWuMay 17 23:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaMay 17 23:32
schestowitz" am still using https://search.disroot.org successfully. searx.me got cracked a while back? so author took a break."May 17 23:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-search.disroot.org | Disroot SearxMay 17 23:32
schestowitzRe: For Immediate PublicationMay 17 23:44
schestowitz> Somehow, the word "reasonably" appears twice in a row. I didn't notice this until I'd read it a few more times, in different fonts/layouts/applications. I don't repeat repeat consecutive words very often.May 17 23:44
schestowitz> May 17 23:44
schestowitz> There's also a PyPY that is meant to be PyPy, (NOT to be confused with PyPI, that's something else entirely) but since that was the only typo I knew of, I didn't mention it. I'm very happy with this article in that regard. But as long as "reasonably reasonably" is being addressed, I know of one other: May 17 23:44
schestowitz> May 17 23:44
schestowitz> "find out of the Python part" should be "if", not of-- I hope the person who stuck "o" next to "i" is proud of themselves. But if you fix only one of these, double "reasonably" gets my vote. I think that's probably a little too reasonable. I haven't found others.May 17 23:44
schestowitzThanks, I am working on it now, having just opened mail! ';-)May 17 23:44
schestowitz3 typos for a text this size is reasonably reasonably little.May 17 23:44
schestowitz>                     > Cross-platform Rust rewrite of the GNU coreutils        May 17 23:45
schestowitz> May 17 23:45
schestowitz> https://github.com/uutils/coreutilsMay 17 23:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-github.com | GitHub - uutils/coreutils: Cross-platform Rust rewrite of the GNU coreutilsMay 17 23:45
schestowitz> Understood! May 17 23:56
schestowitz> May 17 23:56
schestowitz> I'll have them today or tomorrow. Should I send them to you or I'll justMay 17 23:56
schestowitz> update my QuiteRSS feed then the task will be doneMay 17 23:56
schestowitzI suggest making a folder for a bunch of topics, such as node.js, rust etc.May 17 23:56
schestowitzThen find blogs that cover news about these, add their RSS feeds under the relevant topic. The idea is to aggregate new posts like this for Python:May 17 23:56
schestowitzhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137587May 17 23:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Python Programming | Tux MachinesMay 17 23:56

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