IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, January 18, 2023

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except liars who claim to k

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now

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*know

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or claim to control the future

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no single person has THAT much power

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not even Putin

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having said that

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1) keep healthy

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2) keep good knowledge

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with (1) you are safe for the top of the pyramid of "needs" (Maslow)

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(2) is good if you want gainful employment in the future

Jan 18 00:47

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some people let (1) and (2) stagnate

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that was probably when I ran an update of the packages but it said nothing about\

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removing anything, just updating afiak

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by the way there were / are a lot of hotlinks in the tm gallery

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in the original (old) or static )new)?

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i didn't even know gulag analytics was in there

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OTA

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should I do a video about MSFT layoffs? or no need? (mind you, it's in "the news" already; we 'don't matter' now)

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8k+ requests over gemini https proxy yesterday

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msft layoffs and mjg

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OTA

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biab

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Jan 18 03:23

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The screen shots are probably now complete in the tm-new gallery

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There are still some hotlinks in there somewhere, but I have not hunted them

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down. There are however some accidental captures of the tm main page and

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they can be removed and the links to them replaced with links to tm-new, but

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that will take a bit of thought first.

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Maybe the orphaned file names could be culled too.

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Should any javascript at all be allowed to remain?

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i think js is only in the dropdown box for screenshot res

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I haven't tested if it evem works in the archived version. I presume that it

Jan 18 04:35

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ought to though.

Jan 18 04:35

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Nope. It seems not to. The link below it does work, however.

Jan 18 04:35

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draft

Jan 18 04:44

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checking

Jan 18 04:48

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The bold face text near the bottom is broken

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s/If I could do this/If I can do this/

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Remember that m$ makes journalists toe the line to retain their "access" to

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official channels of information. Link to the relevant PXE from Comes v M$

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The phrase "XBox sales lose the company money!" is what should be highlighted

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in bold, not the rest

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A few words about how/why Azure is failing could be useful.

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editing, thanks

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i assume current msfters might watch the video

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Xbox has not ever really been much about being a games console but has been

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about making a test bed for DRM and other lock-in using commodity hardware.

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and try to convince them to leave

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can i quote that?

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loose paraphrasing is preferable if possibe

Jan 18 04:56

psydruid

even saying something like not buying any games from companies that get acquired by Microsoft is seen as hostile instead of a decision any person should be able to make for themselves

Jan 18 04:59

techrigthssec

Well put!

Jan 18 05:16

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just added a url for letter to hobbyists at the end

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to show how far back this goes

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psydruid: it is a hate crime

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corporations are people, my friend. MinceR likes that quote

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Excellent addition

Jan 18 05:20

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i could add a reference to the pharma/vaccine business, but it would alienate and distract from the topic at hand

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scicnece is now "political" and "divisive"

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my nhs "record" can "prove" I support trump and lex jones and... (straw man)

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there is that twitter leak about pharma companies asking twitter to censor activists for generic vaccines

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i.e. no patents

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yes, those "terrorists" who think public-funded stuff should be... gasp... public

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Pharma would be a distraction

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whoa

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pinkish sky this morning

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and snow

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very odd hue

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Jan 18 08:17

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tesla makes budget cars

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"budget" AYE QUE

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buy this green car

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that runs on power made elsewhere

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don't pay attention to Tesla whistleblowers, they are just terrorists sceming a mass shooting

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*scheming

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Tesla cultists make me more sick than Apple cultists

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but both engage in financially self-harming behaviour, so I'm sort of fine with that

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ack

Jan 18 08:38

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they would be better off SupportingTheEconomy(TM) by spending local

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not feeding CultOfApple and MuskCult/OPccult

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back in a biot

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worming exercise

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we started feeding the birds near us lately, they hang in the trees and are visible from binuculars

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they are visible from where we exercise, they come to the garden when the cats are not around, and once

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they locate one feed the rest follow

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bbl

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strategically iw would help to know WHAT and WHERE microsoft does cuts

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a bit too early to check atm

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because of gossips HR 1-to-1 meetings today

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on my 'TODO'

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I hope they cut off lots of "OS" stuff

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that would help gnu/linux grow

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Maybe they are cutting "coders" because, given the quality, they can be replaced

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with ChatGPT which does a better job they they generally do. ;)

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More seriously cutting the OS stuff would make some sense but what they do

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seldom makes sense. I guess it is about where they see the strongest chances

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for maintaining a monopoly or if they will transition further to "financialization" like Apple has.

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catching up

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draft

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(reading your message)

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I am not saying OS staff/stuff gets cut

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but would love to know if t hey do

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maybe we'll never find out easily

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drawing blood froma rock and from liars

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It would be difficult to find out in advance and to a certain extent even after

Jan 18 10:52

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the fact, for the reasons you mention.

Jan 18 10:52

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we enjoy the news nonetheless

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the collectiev achievement of millions of gnu/linux advocates

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ebuzz, DT, groklaw etc.

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they can only try to undermine, infiltrate etc.

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like paying OSI to call plagiarism "HEY HI"

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OSI is finished

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Jan 18 10:55

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gonna check on the bird now to relax

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and round of coffee

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only slept 4 hours

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rianne woke me up to tell me abotu the perl issue

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they find it hard enough to hire people who are familiar with their technologies, because a whole generation of developers has grown up with free software

Jan 18 11:02

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the thing is, they bought github

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we need to present good reasons NOT to use it

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so their takeover turns out to be WORTHLESS

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and still make losses

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the copilot PLAGIARISM is a good reason to avoid it

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and even SFC, which took Microsoft money, decided to tell people to boycott github

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so that's a plus

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One can hope that the new generation represents a return to Free Software.

Jan 18 11:04

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back with coffee

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hundreds of small birds outside in the snow and trees

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Schools tend to search for such students though so that they can be weeded out

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and those that progress down the M$ pipeline generally lack not just skills but

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aptitudes necessary for gaining ICT skills.

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Many good reaons are listed in the lawsuit against m$ over its using to strip

Jan 18 11:32

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both licensing and attribution from the code that chumps have left in GitHub

Jan 18 11:32

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[rant] just spent 20 minutes digging through over a dozen "news" reports on the layoffs

Jan 18 11:33

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lots wrong with them and barely clues about which divisions affected

Jan 18 11:33

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IOW, not journalism, just parroting, parroting, parroting

Jan 18 11:34

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PR dressed up as journalism

Jan 18 11:44

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AIM has not done attack pieces on Linux

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after we called them out on it

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it featured in LinuxToday etc.

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I'm sure they noticed

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Or "churnalism" dressed up as news

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Churn for the sake of keeping m$ in the news.

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but without critique, analysis, or investigation

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let alone actual criticism

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Yes but they are still M$ "partners" so their goal is to promote M$ above all

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else and their backing off is only a tactical move and most likely just

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temporary at best

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if the financial "perkjs" steop

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lewiis calls them bribes

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then they will move to other "topics"

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or focus on other companies, potential "partners"

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that would at least be a step in the "right" direction

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so we need to keep at it

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it does work

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yes

Jan 18 11:50

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tryint to think of more angles to cover

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to be a thorn on their side at a time they hurt a lot

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like market share erosion

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I could not find out which divisions are affected

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except when reading anon gossip sites

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but it should be feasible for good journalists to extract

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info from insiders

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they JUST DO NOT TRY!!!

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Anything in the SEC filings or are they still too sanitized to provide

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an assessment of any kind?

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for SEC they change the buckers

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product/brand names

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and umbrellas

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e.g. "entertainment"

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very value

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and they can add/remove things from that reporting "silo"

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so SEC is designed badly in case informing shareholders was the intent

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they have inside/r info

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we need insiders

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I have some contacts

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and this time I was spot on, even the date

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5000+6000=11,0000

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those WORKERS only know MICROSOFTISM

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so finding another job is VERY HARD

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not just because of the economic "climate"

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I hope they change occupation

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do something that does not harm society

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according to gemini stats page, there is another topic/theme now competing with the layoffs :) ^_^

Jan 18 11:56

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adding an over-encompassing wiki page belatedly?

Jan 18 12:01

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it would lend "credibility" (notability)

Jan 18 12:01

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Not sure

Jan 18 12:02

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gemini.techrights.org/2023/01/12/jan-17-layoffs-rumour/ is missing the\

Jan 18 12:06

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assessment that the downsizing can be about one third of the microserfs

Jan 18 12:06

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currently on the payroll

Jan 18 12:06

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i saw no such numbers

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msft says 11k out (not "officially" yet)

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same as FB

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11k, one of 3 waves apparently

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10%, 10%, 10% (some believe)

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but that's FB, not MSFT

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it would be nice to see much deeper cuts

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but nobody is investigating

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and what they "reported" oin Sky was easy

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the only advantage they have is, it is "official" news site

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and they asked MSFT

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MSFT said, "no comment"

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For what it's worth, you could ask m$ too so that you can point out, too,

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that they responded with "no comment" or failed to respond at all ...

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reminds me of the time around 2007 when we emailed microsoft's legal dept.

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asking for a patent licence for mono

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or similar

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and they did reply

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i wanted to tell you earlier, but reckoned you were already busy with links,

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that it would help to have another pair of eyes on:

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- how many laid off

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- divisions

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- another round this coming july?

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as an aside, in tuxmachines I enter many summaries into pages but they vanish as pages age

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one way to "do them justice" would be deriving from the DB a weekly/monthly page

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that contains the "description" for each page

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so that SEs can pick that up too

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and navigation also becomes simpler

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we have date, not categories

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and that it fine, spare us the extra work needd in drupal ("taxonomy")

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The few articles on th etopic have been weak and not included details like that

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but the hint is that there are likely more rounds of layoffs to come.

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It would be possible to extract title and description from the db and make

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a fresh page. Can you make a mockup?

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(in plain html)

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I am going to make a mock-up later today

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for date, afaik there are too fields. not secondary/primary keys: date added, date last modified

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the code would be super-similar to the code that creates the main gemini page and front page

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except the query SELECT part

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time range specified

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Title + Description for last n days sorted descending by date?

Jan 18 12:18

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yes, those two can suffice in long lists, with limits that contrain page size, e.g. 2023 week 1

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or 1/1/2023 archive

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January 2023 would be like 1500 links

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search engines penalise pages with over 200 (Google) links, IIRC

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have not checked for over a decade

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but they won't crawl these deep

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can also be split by author, e.g. WHERE author=joebloggs

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I'm thinking only one page which would be updated either daily or once

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per edit, which ever is a shorter interval. It is not good to have too many

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redundant pages cluttering things.

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Yes, it can be split by auther.

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^authhor

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^author

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grouping is not a problem

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such a page can be generated at the end of each month manually or by cron

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or, if daily, by midnight cronjob

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for gemini and https it only takes a few seconds to run and spew out the output of the query

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linking to the resultant pages can be done manually, e.g. as par tof end-of-month tasks

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but 1500 links in a page is too much, I think

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for usenet I used to make calendar-like links that then link to subpages, made with MonARCH (ruby)

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*mhonarc (iirc)