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| schestowitz-pi | the full html comes from my script | Feb 18 01:17 |
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| schestowitz-pi | i'm going to try to identify what code eats the whitespaces and why | Feb 18 01:17 |
| schestowitz-pi | my guess is that it is something in perl | Feb 18 01:17 |
| schestowitz-pi | where it analyses urls | Feb 18 01:17 |
| schestowitz-pi | going to first progress on news-reading till 3am | Feb 18 01:17 |
| schestowitz-pi | so far i see mostly good news | Feb 18 01:17 |
| schestowitz-pi | germany ratifying upca is noa a shock | Feb 18 01:17 |
| schestowitz-pi | it's what comes next that will be interesting | Feb 18 01:17 |
| schestowitz-pi | i see more layoffs in companies i strongly dislike | Feb 18 01:17 |
| techrights[sec] | Which script? I can look. | Feb 18 01:36 |
| schestowitz-pi | there is a chain of scripts running when I call finalise script from dialogue in menu.sh on | Feb 18 01:38 |
| schestowitz-pi | my machine 'vonick' | Feb 18 01:38 |
| schestowitz-pi | i forgot the order in which it runs, but toc is part of it, and iirc it also pulls the latest camelcase file | Feb 18 01:38 |
| schestowitz-pi | from git before it runs the rest | Feb 18 01:38 |
| schestowitz-pi | there is the thing that culls empty n | Feb 18 01:38 |
| techrights[sec] | something there is eating the whitespace at the end of the line and adding <br /> which seems to be the problem | Feb 18 01:39 |
| schestowitz-pi | there is the thing that culls empty nodes in the tree | Feb 18 01:56 |
| schestowitz-pi | end of line is not the issue as that's to do with how the rss feeds are formatted | Feb 18 01:56 |
| schestowitz-pi | the main issue is, when <b>some text</b> is bolded or <a href="">linked</a> the spaces | Feb 18 01:56 |
| schestowitz-pi | before and after are removed | Feb 18 01:56 |
| schestowitz-pi | I've not yet checked it | Feb 18 01:56 |
| schestowitz-pi | as I try to gather enough material before the bulletin cutoff | Feb 18 01:56 |
| schestowitz-pi | and fell behind yesterday as I did about 5 things in town | Feb 18 01:56 |
| techrights[sec] | Is it the culling script? Which part of the chain is eating the spaces? | Feb 18 01:56 |
| schestowitz-pi | checking.... | Feb 18 01:58 |
| schestowitz-pi | perl ~/Git/Links/links-interleave-social-control-media.pl \ | Feb 18 01:58 |
| schestowitz-pi | links-after.html > links-clean.html | Feb 18 01:58 |
| schestowitz-pi | i think that _might_ be it | Feb 18 01:58 |
| schestowitz-pi | wait, maybe it happens before that | Feb 18 02:04 |
| schestowitz-pi | grep href links-after.html | grep -v h5 | Feb 18 02:04 |
| schestowitz-pi | grep href links-clean.html | grep -v h5 | Feb 18 02:04 |
| schestowitz-pi | both lack the space | Feb 18 02:04 |
| schestowitz-pi | perl ./links-cull-empty.pl links-clean.html | \ | Feb 18 02:04 |
| schestowitz-pi | perl ./links-toc.pl > links-after.html | Feb 18 02:04 |
| techrights[sec] | checking | Feb 18 02:05 |
| schestowitz-pi | oh i see now with git show | Feb 18 02:07 |
| schestowitz-pi | are you ok with me testing this in 30 mins | Feb 18 02:07 |
| schestowitz-pi | for the next batch of links? | Feb 18 02:07 |
| schestowitz-pi | then i can report the outcome | Feb 18 02:07 |
| techrights[sec] | sure | Feb 18 02:07 |
| schestowitz-pi | backed up previous version, put new one in place instead | Feb 18 02:09 |
| schestowitz-pi | will report soon.... | Feb 18 02:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Latest updates: Stanford president under investigation for research misconduct ☞ https://stanforddaily.com/2023/02/16/latest-updates-stanford-president-under-investigation-for-research-misconduct/ | Feb 18 02:23 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-stanforddaily.com | Latest updates: Stanford president under investigation for research misconduct | Feb 18 02:23 | |
| schestowitz-pi | [rant] academia is full of frauds | Feb 18 02:25 |
| schestowitz-pi | i cannot tell if | Feb 18 02:25 |
| schestowitz-pi | 1) the phenomenon is new | Feb 18 02:25 |
| schestowitz-pi | 2) it is old | Feb 18 02:25 |
| schestowitz-pi | 3) it is just becoming MORE VISIBLE in the modern age | Feb 18 02:25 |
| schestowitz-pi | a fish rots from the head down | Feb 18 02:25 |
| schestowitz-pi | it's the same in corporations | Feb 18 02:25 |
| schestowitz-pi | propelling to the top a bunch of frauds with plenty to hide | Feb 18 02:25 |
| schestowitz-pi | so they bully honest people, whom they try to keep below and out of decision-making | Feb 18 02:25 |
| schestowitz-pi | frauds like to hangs out with like-minded people | Feb 18 02:25 |
| schestowitz-pi | and they LOVE power | Feb 18 02:25 |
| techrights[sec] | I suspect it has gotten much, much worse in recent decades. The poseurs | Feb 18 02:28 |
| techrights[sec] | were generally culled and unable to disturb a core. Now the core is gone | Feb 18 02:28 |
| techrights[sec] | and those that would have made a core, marginalized. | Feb 18 02:28 |
| schestowitz-pi | happens in admin and "research;' | Feb 18 02:28 |
| schestowitz-pi | like people who forge results to "get ahead" | Feb 18 02:28 |
| schestowitz-pi | and peer review cannot always catch them | Feb 18 02:28 |
| techrights[sec] | Admin is the main proble: empire builders, microsofters, and such | Feb 18 02:32 |
| techrightssec | peer review has mostly stopped working, and that is part of the problem. | Feb 18 02:44 |
| techrightssec | that is mostly caused by the state of academic publishing and the current | Feb 18 02:44 |
| techrightssec | business models which have been encouraged to develop over the last half | Feb 18 02:44 |
| techrightssec | century | Feb 18 02:44 |
| techrightssec | Where the whitspaces preserved | Feb 18 02:44 |
| techrightssec | ? | Feb 18 02:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it seems to be fixed now! | Feb 18 02:44 |
| techrights[sec] | │ | Feb 18 02:46 |
| techrights[sec] | Excellent │ | Feb 18 02:46 |
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| schestowitz-pi | i am still adapting, will improve over time | Feb 18 02:47 |
| schestowitz-pi | but for now tma nd tr | Feb 18 02:47 |
| schestowitz-pi | contain some extra formatting and links aside from the "main" link | Feb 18 02:47 |
| schestowitz-pi | and that's a positive step forward | Feb 18 02:47 |
| schestowitz-pi | sometimes these links are authoritative | Feb 18 02:47 |
| schestowitz-pi | links original pdfs | Feb 18 02:47 |
| schestowitz-pi | for example see last item in http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Feb 18 02:51 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Programming Leftovers | Feb 18 02:51 | |
| schestowitz-pi | or this: http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Debian_Leftovers.shtml | Feb 18 02:51 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Debian Leftovers | Feb 18 02:51 | |
| schestowitz-pi | in TM, the line length limits get eliminated, but not in TR | Feb 18 02:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | TikTok “Focused View” Promises Emotion Tracking to Advertisers ☞ https://www.cpomagazine.com/data-privacy/tiktok-focused-view-promises-emotion-tracking-to-advertisers/ | Feb 18 03:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.cpomagazine.com/data-privacy/tiktok-focused-view-promises-emotion-tracking-to-advertisers/ ) | Feb 18 03:04 | |
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| techrights[sec] | g | Feb 18 03:34 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | Roblox Reports Nearly $1 Billion Net Loss in 2022 ☞ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/02/15/roblox-reports-nearly-1-billion-net-loss-in-2022/ | Feb 18 04:15 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/02/15/roblox-reports-nearly-1-billion-net-loss-in-2022/ ) | Feb 18 04:15 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | The problem is not the burning but the people who react to these ☞ https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/02/norway-dispatch-annual-police-threat-assessment-highlights-risk-of-extremism-in-the-wake-of-quran-burnings-elsewhere-in-scandinavia/ | Feb 18 04:47 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.jurist.org | Norway dispatch: annual police threat assessment highlights risk of extremism in the wake of Quran burnings elsewhere in Scandinavia - JURIST - News | Feb 18 04:47 | |
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| schestowitz-pi | i wanted to share something while offline | Feb 18 13:28 |
| schestowitz-pi | forgot, but it was not important anyway | Feb 18 13:28 |
| schestowitz-pi | meanwhile, in irc there was some trolling | Feb 18 13:28 |
| schestowitz-pi | not severe case of trolling | Feb 18 13:28 |
| schestowitz-pi | but maybe I should be selective who to reply to | Feb 18 13:28 |
| schestowitz-pi | i really would rather post links and such | Feb 18 13:28 |
| schestowitz-pi | then all sorts of other possible uses of time | Feb 18 13:28 |
| schestowitz-pi | *then | Feb 18 13:28 |
| schestowitz-pi | *than | Feb 18 13:28 |
| schestowitz-pi | still getting accustomed to a new arrangement of days | Feb 18 13:28 |
| schestowitz-pi | and workflow | Feb 18 13:28 |
| schestowitz-pi | going to use firefox in a moment | Feb 18 13:28 |
| schestowitz-pi | discounts at the local stores for "fresh" foods are getting harder to find | Feb 18 13:28 |
| schestowitz-pi | often empty-handed visits | Feb 18 13:28 |
| schestowitz-pi | so wholesales will become preferable too, as long as they last... | Feb 18 13:28 |
| techrights[sec] | ack | Feb 18 13:40 |
| schestowitz-pi | just spoke to relative in yorkshire for an hour | Feb 18 13:41 |
| schestowitz-pi | says many more people in streets, some in tents | Feb 18 13:41 |
| schestowitz-pi | in centre of town | Feb 18 13:41 |
| schestowitz-pi | and it was not like this before | Feb 18 13:41 |
| schestowitz-pi | spoke about health and other issues | Feb 18 13:41 |
| schestowitz-pi | reached conclusion that living in an island if better than bunker | Feb 18 13:41 |
| schestowitz-pi | owing to isolation, distance | Feb 18 13:41 |
| schestowitz-pi | but some islands are attracting too much attention now | Feb 18 13:41 |
| schestowitz-pi | getting congested and "projects" | Feb 18 13:41 |
| schestowitz-pi | after 2020 many homes outside towns, not apartment, rose in "value" | Feb 18 13:41 |
| schestowitz-pi | living in overpriced shoeboxes is not so trendy anymore | Feb 18 13:41 |
| schestowitz-pi | with frugality and longtime savings we can 'run on empty' for over a decade | Feb 18 13:41 |
| schestowitz-pi | and assess the situatio | Feb 18 13:41 |
| schestowitz-pi | n | Feb 18 13:41 |
| schestowitz-pi | sorry to be talking about rather off-topic matters, back to more relevant powwow, | Feb 18 13:57 |
| schestowitz-pi | i wonder how to 'streamline' our two scripts so as to get the html/body and the summary/overview | Feb 18 13:57 |
| schestowitz-pi | in one fell swoop | Feb 18 13:57 |
| schestowitz-pi | i am going to look at the code later to study overlaps | Feb 18 13:58 |
| schestowitz-pi | i think it is a massive improvement to have in-line formatting for blockquote parts in TM and TR | Feb 18 13:58 |
| schestowitz-pi | other syndicators lack that, through old-tm does have a syndication component that includes such | Feb 18 13:58 |
| schestowitz-pi | bits | Feb 18 13:58 |
| techrights[sec] | cat | tidy | de-duplicate.pl | Feb 18 13:58 |
| schestowitz-pi | btw, engadgetbecame a spamfarm akin to cnet, similar tactics and overlap | Feb 18 14:01 |
| schestowitz-pi | zdnet is barely active, looks like editors do 1-2 times a week rota now | Feb 18 14:01 |
| schestowitz-pi | so they publish in bursts, then go silent | Feb 18 14:01 |
| schestowitz-pi | same cms and company as cnet | Feb 18 14:01 |
| schestowitz-pi | when you see full body html it's rather blatant, like URLs 4 lines long all over the place (referrer parts) | Feb 18 14:01 |
| schestowitz-pi | it's seo and spamfarming | Feb 18 14:01 |
| techrights[sec] | A lot of sites have diminished and/or turned to spammishness. Others have | Feb 18 14:02 |
| techrights[sec] | just plain closed down. | Feb 18 14:02 |
| schestowitz-pi | indeed | Feb 18 14:02 |
| schestowitz-pi | the former category was handed over to 'cleaners' or monetisers | Feb 18 14:03 |
| schestowitz-pi | milking what's left and selling the horse to a delicatessen | Feb 18 14:03 |
| techrights[sec] | India seems to still have investments in media and journalism, but tech | Feb 18 14:03 |
| techrights[sec] | coverage is very, very weak. | Feb 18 14:03 |
| schestowitz-pi | be careful, a lot of their english-speaking media reposts the same texts in many domains | Feb 18 14:05 |
| schestowitz-pi | and i suspect some of it is composed elsewhere and presented as "original" | Feb 18 14:05 |
| schestowitz-pi | if you compare paragraphs you can see they are recycling | Feb 18 14:05 |
| schestowitz-pi | but spamnil is miles worse, he's not even editorialising things | Feb 18 14:05 |
| schestowitz-pi | he and monika just copy-paste corporate spam | Feb 18 14:05 |
| schestowitz-pi | spwmnil is still violating youtube TOS, but fewer videos to click | Feb 18 14:05 |
| techrights[sec] | It is difficult to find and follow quality sites. Many appear to be mostly | Feb 18 14:06 |
| techrights[sec] | plagiarism. | Feb 18 14:06 |
| techrights[sec] | TOS and CoC only apply to opponents of M$ | Feb 18 14:06 |
| schestowitz-pi | coc = "professionalism" = submissive to power (oligarchy | Feb 18 14:07 |
| schestowitz-pi | that does not mean that coc violators are freedom fighters | Feb 18 14:07 |
| schestowitz-pi | many are actual asshole, but risky to generalise | Feb 18 14:07 |
| schestowitz-pi | that's how a coc gets sold | Feb 18 14:07 |
| schestowitz-pi | a motto for TMis, no need to editorialise news if you can boost the original | Feb 18 14:14 |
| schestowitz-pi | and curate what's important | Feb 18 14:14 |
| schestowitz-pi | phoronix is considered "blogspam" in reddit | Feb 18 14:14 |
| schestowitz-pi | because it can be biased for the originals | Feb 18 14:14 |
| schestowitz-pi | and no ads | Feb 18 14:14 |
| schestowitz-pi | but if you have nothing original to report, why not link to the developer's platform? | Feb 18 14:14 |
| schestowitz-pi | either way, just curation and management of the signal can go a long way | Feb 18 14:14 |
| schestowitz-pi | linuxtoday i cannot bear because you must open a ling with js and ads just to open the | Feb 18 14:14 |
| schestowitz-pi | original story | Feb 18 14:14 |
| schestowitz-pi | and they post very olkd and unimportant stuff, maybe 4 items per day | Feb 18 14:14 |
| schestowitz-pi | while missing the actually emergent/breaking/important news | Feb 18 14:14 |
| schestowitz-pi | linuxtoday invested way too much time building audience in tw | Feb 18 14:14 |
| techrights[sec] | Twitter is and always was a massive waste of time and e | Feb 18 14:19 |
| schestowitz-pi | nobody -- least me -- thought it would go down THIS fast | Feb 18 14:21 |
| schestowitz-pi | india offices shuttered | Feb 18 14:21 |
| schestowitz-pi | funnelled traffic to elonmusk | Feb 18 14:21 |
| schestowitz-pi | now worth $44,000,000,000 | Feb 18 14:21 |
| schestowitz-pi | not even $44,000,000 | Feb 18 14:21 |
| schestowitz-pi | *lest | Feb 18 14:21 |
| schestowitz-pi | *not | Feb 18 14:21 |
| schestowitz-pi | sorry, still typoing | Feb 18 14:21 |
| schestowitz-pi | need to change terminal font | Feb 18 14:21 |
| schestowitz-pi | bringing the screen closer too | Feb 18 14:24 |
| schestowitz-pi | it's the raspi400 | Feb 18 14:24 |
| schestowitz-pi | very weird day today, lots of mumble and experimentation with things | Feb 18 14:24 |
| schestowitz-pi | lots of coffee, too | Feb 18 14:24 |
| schestowitz-pi | i use the percolator | Feb 18 14:32 |
| schestowitz-pi | got some blends at the wholesale market | Feb 18 14:32 |
| schestowitz-pi | 2 litres of coffee help suppress appetite | Feb 18 14:32 |
| schestowitz-pi | but only about once a week | Feb 18 14:32 |
| schestowitz-pi | the rest is tea or protein shakes | Feb 18 14:32 |
| schestowitz-pi | we keep finding more protein shakes than we can finish | Feb 18 14:32 |
| schestowitz-pi | helps with weight lo | Feb 18 14:32 |
| schestowitz-pi | if properly dressed, i can job in the streets on my way to errands | Feb 18 14:35 |
| schestowitz-pi | as done yesterday and today | Feb 18 14:35 |
| schestowitz-pi | cardio | Feb 18 14:35 |
| schestowitz-pi | the consensus today was, many people known to people get sick | Feb 18 14:35 |
| schestowitz-pi | some permanently | Feb 18 14:35 |
| schestowitz-pi | i got invited to a party but turned it down | Feb 18 14:35 |
| schestowitz-pi | too many people | Feb 18 14:35 |
| schestowitz-pi | /s/job/jog/ | Feb 18 14:35 |
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| schestowitz-pi | of note: quality of stories in hackaday fell shrply about a year ago when they | Feb 18 14:51 |
| schestowitz-pi | changed the editor | Feb 18 14:51 |
| schestowitz-pi | but it is still better than some of the equivalent sites, of which | Feb 18 14:51 |
| schestowitz-pi | of which there are very | Feb 18 14:52 |
| schestowitz-pi | few | Feb 18 14:53 |
| techrights[sec] | I stopped reading Hackaday for the most part | Feb 18 14:53 |
| techrights[sec] | It still has occasional gems though. | Feb 18 14:53 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Working from home attracts people from big cities to the suburbs ☞ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/lifestyle/22976-working-from-home-attracts-people-from-big-cities-to-the-suburbs.html | Feb 18 15:16 |
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| schestowitz-pi | today I spoke about living in an island | Feb 18 15:23 |
| schestowitz-pi | but the issue that came up was | Feb 18 15:23 |
| schestowitz-pi | too many tourists | Feb 18 15:23 |
| schestowitz-pi | and industrialisationm | Feb 18 15:23 |
| schestowitz-pi | so what you root for today can change profoundly over time | Feb 18 15:23 |
| schestowitz-pi | serene places won't stay that way if they get "discovered" | Feb 18 15:23 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | Internal review found ‘falsified data’ in Stanford President’s Alzheimer’s research, colleagues allege ☞ https://stanforddaily.com/2023/02/17/internal-review-found-falsified-data-in-stanford-presidents-alzheimers-research-colleagues-allege/ | Feb 18 22:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-stanforddaily.com | Review found ‘falsified data’ in Stanford President’s research, colleagues allege | Feb 18 22:49 | |
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| schestowitz-pi | it would take very strong evidence to prove there were special intents and forces trying | Feb 18 23:35 |
| schestowitz-pi | to drive mycroft out of the market for privacy reasons | Feb 18 23:35 |
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