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Techrights-secexcellentJul 18 06:44
schestowitz-TRI've only installed openssh so far, we should write down all the steps and things we installJul 18 06:46
schestowitz-TRwe can also migrate links, git etc.Jul 18 06:46
schestowitz-TROne forecast tells me tomorrow it'll be 40 degrees here -- an all-time record AFAIK, but 2 other forecasts/sources do not agreeJul 18 06:55
Techrights-seccan the new system reach the old system via the internal LAN?Jul 18 06:56
Techrights-secIf so, that route would be the fast way to use wget to spider the oldJul 18 06:56
Techrights-secsite into static pages for the archiveJul 18 06:56
schestowitz-TRfor now I don't plan to copy across the old nodes, as they have things in them that depend on DrupalJul 18 06:56
Techrights-secok, so we'll leave the old stuff in drupal.  how long will the drupal archiveJul 18 06:57
Techrights-secbe left running?   It should be converted to static at some point.  Jul 18 06:57
schestowitz-TRyes, but not yet. copying from one container to another is simple, but I don't want to f* around with susan's multi-page stories Jul 18 06:59
schestowitz-TRthere are many of themJul 18 06:59
schestowitz-TRyou can access the new TR container via hv in the usual way lxde-attack *IIRCJul 18 06:59
schestowitz-TR*lxdJul 18 06:59
schestowitz-TRand then adduser gitJul 18 06:59
schestowitz-TRadduser linkx etc.Jul 18 06:59
schestowitz-TRapk add opensshJul 18 06:59
schestowitzhttps://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-install-openssh-server-on-alpine-linux-including-docker/Jul 18 06:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-install-openssh-server-on-alpine-linux-including-docker/ )Jul 18 06:59
schestowitz-TRwe've left systemd behind for now Jul 18 07:00
Techrights-secThe ability to delete records is now available in the mockupJul 18 07:02
Techrights-secit's getting closer to a proof-of-concept toolJul 18 07:02
Techrights-secNext, adding navigation capabilities to the extraction scriptJul 18 07:02
Techrights-secTR or TM_Jul 18 07:02
Techrights-sec?Jul 18 07:02
Techrights-secokJul 18 07:02
Techrights-secexcellent, though we don't know what is brewing in that regard over in redmondJul 18 07:02
Techrights-secthere's been nearly complete silence regarding their acquisition of lennartJul 18 07:02
Techrights-secso they must have some nasty plans in the worksJul 18 07:02
schestowitz-TRon tm vm, run ps auxJul 18 07:02
schestowitz-TRand see how thin it isJul 18 07:02
schestowitz-TRI plan to pay kaniini soonJul 18 07:02
Techrights-secI've done that before and appreciated the leannessJul 18 07:03
schestowitz-TRkaniini wants us to keep tidy,, with git or ci or...Jul 18 07:04
schestowitz-TRwhich I agree with, now we have a chance to tidy up a lotJul 18 07:04
schestowitz-TRwhilelegay still runs OK, we can pass things over one at a time without any deadlinesJul 18 07:04
Techrights-secok git ought to be the first thing installed thenJul 18 07:12
Techrights-secI've added the package GitJul 18 07:12
Techrights-seclater, the hard part of adding and managing a repositoryJul 18 07:12
Techrights-secI presume we should have system accounts for all participants?Jul 18 07:12
schestowitz-TR*while legacyJul 18 07:13
schestowitz-TRyes, I think it's how it works now, with keysJul 18 07:13
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schestowitz-TRI think you can migrate /home/git as is, to the new machineJul 18 07:32
schestowitz-TRthen I can register git.techrights.org to point to the new machineJul 18 07:32
schestowitz-TRpiece-widse migrationJul 18 07:32
Techrights-secno that's the TR Git repository, the TM one is a separate projectJul 18 07:36
Techrights-secor, wait, which one are we talking about?  I've been thinking about TMJul 18 07:36
Techrights-secbut should we look at TR first?Jul 18 07:36
schestowitz-TRah, ok, you want to have TM with its own new repo, which makes sense tooJul 18 07:38
schestowitz-TRcan adduser git and set that afreshJul 18 07:38
schestowitz-TRthere can be git.tuxmachines.org with the same ip as "news"Jul 18 07:38
schestowitz-TRyou can set your commits as anon usernameJul 18 07:38
schestowitz-TRthe TR git has just a few bits and pieces from TM but not muchJul 18 07:38
schestowitz-TRwe can migrate those files overJul 18 07:39
Techrights-secackJul 18 07:40
schestowitz-TRat some point we can move tmux over as well, with monitor-techrights.shJul 18 07:42
schestowitz-TRI recreated the session last ight after tghe reboots (rather, vm restarts for xfs)repair)Jul 18 07:42
schestowitz-TRyou can read that in the irc logs circa 10pmJul 18 07:42
Techrights-secadded tmux to TM-new alsoJul 18 08:07
schestowitz-TRthanks, after 12 years (even 12 years, 3 months) we can leave the boycottn username behind too, I supposeJul 18 08:09
schestowitz-TRthe old domain is still used a lotJul 18 08:09
schestowitz-TRsome scripts will need changing if the username gets changed, but at least the reasons Jul 18 08:09
schestowitz-TRaren't IBM and Microsoft claiming "offence"Jul 18 08:09
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schestowitz-TRfinishing work in 40 minsJul 18 08:21
schestowitz-TRaround midday we'll be out to cycle for food, so 4 hours from nowJul 18 08:21
schestowitz-TRprice of things went up, but discounts exist still, just a tad harder to find (where and when)Jul 18 08:21
Techrights-sectm-update can go by record number (not pratical, but precise) or by URLJul 18 08:24
Techrights-secto either update or delete nowJul 18 08:24
schestowitz-TRurl is goodJul 18 08:26
schestowitz-TRto explain workflow in nutshellJul 18 08:26
schestowitz-TRrianne or I found articleJul 18 08:26
schestowitz-TRwe knew we had seen itJul 18 08:26
schestowitz-TRopened browserJul 18 08:26
schestowitz-TRtyped in headline similar, e.g. mintJul 18 08:26
schestowitz-TRit autompletesJul 18 08:26
schestowitz-TR"that's the one I wanted to add to"Jul 18 08:26
schestowitz-TRso the address is easy to retrieveJul 18 08:26
schestowitz-TRI think ideally the update will go at the topJul 18 08:26
schestowitz-TRand then the node needs to be bumped up in the site to indicate the updateJul 18 08:26
Techrights-secyes, though it is a bit brittle but that's the cost of customizationJul 18 08:27
Techrights-secI figure it's a bit easier and takes out unnecessary extra steps and cognitiveJul 18 08:27
Techrights-seceffortJul 18 08:27
Techrights-secThe updated nodes get bumped to the current day, hours are not trackedJul 18 08:27
schestowitz-TRiirc, most irc clients will detect change in date (or title with "Update" added)Jul 18 08:28
schestowitz-TRand then display as newJul 18 08:28
schestowitz-TRnot irc lientsJul 18 08:28
schestowitz-TRrss clientsJul 18 08:28
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schestowitz-TRtoday 2 videos and one manually curated, devuanJul 18 09:29
schestowitz-TRgoing to clean all the stuff there, then record re epoJul 18 09:29
schestowitz-TRi slept too well, knowing we have the two new vmsJul 18 09:29
schestowitz-TRoverslept by 3.5 hoursJul 18 09:29
Techrights-secexcellent.  the EPO stuff is strategically importantJul 18 09:29
Techrights-secthat's good on occasionJul 18 09:29
Techrights-secprobably needed this timeJul 18 09:29
schestowitz-TRit's still weekend anywayJul 18 09:31
schestowitz-TRtoday's links will be quick to clean, you added just 3 to an already-small pool of automatedJul 18 09:31
schestowitz-TRI want to work on the sites laterJul 18 09:31
schestowitz-TRbut I fell behind on epo videosJul 18 09:31
schestowitz-TRpartly because it's too hot here to record comfortablyJul 18 09:31
Techrights-sectoday is Monday alreadyJul 18 09:31
Techrights-secyes it varies but on average keeps getting smallerJul 18 09:31
Techrights-secI've been working on ideas for the navigation.Jul 18 09:31
schestowitz-TRwhen I said it's weekend I meant the news cyclke has not begun yetJul 18 09:32
schestowitz-TRso better to sleep more now, less the following nightJul 18 09:32
schestowitz-TRstrategic storage of capacity to workJul 18 09:32
Techrights-secyes.  the weekends are even slower.  now it is also the middle of summer forJul 18 09:33
Techrights-secthe northern hemisphereJul 18 09:33
schestowitz-TRI remmeber summers as a student in the faculty looking for linux picks in summerJul 18 09:35
schestowitz-TRthey had events like LinuxWorld (IDG)Jul 18 09:35
schestowitz-TRso no lack of newsJul 18 09:35
schestowitz-TRjust a little slowerJul 18 09:35
schestowitz-TRbut that was 16 years and and I was paid by netscape to post some stuffJul 18 09:35
schestowitz-TRlike Linux gadgets when the OS was not yet de facto standardJul 18 09:35
schestowitz-TRand growing fast neverthelessJul 18 09:35
schestowitz-TRa lot still used winceJul 18 09:35
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Techrights-secsome simple navigation has been added, and the workflow.sh file tweaked slightlyJul 18 14:00
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schestowitz-TRback, new epo materialJul 18 14:24
schestowitz-TRnew foodJul 18 14:24
schestowitz-TRcatching upJul 18 14:24
schestowitz-TRthe epo issues are very relevant to many orgsJul 18 14:24
schestowitz-TRand the ilo rulings become precedentsJul 18 14:24
schestowitz-TRit's a long doc, will take a while to htmlify (and tsxity/gemify) itJul 18 14:24
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Techrights-secjust tweaked the nav menu css to center much betterJul 18 19:11
Techrights-secin the mockupJul 18 19:11
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Techrights-secit looks like SQLite3 could still be used even with a local search function:Jul 18 19:33
Techrights-sechttps://www.sqlite.org/lockingv3.htmlJul 18 19:33
Techrights-secsince multiple concurrent reads are okJul 18 19:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.sqlite.org | File Locking And Concurrency In SQLite Version 3Jul 18 19:33
schestowitz-TRreadsing draftJul 18 19:34
schestowitz-TRexcellent, having an index for it accessible would enable a lot of slicing Jul 18 19:34
schestowitz-TRand without the extra complexity of durpal schemasJul 18 19:34
schestowitz-TRthey change every major release of drupl Jul 18 19:34
schestowitz-TRvery dumb design, I knowJul 18 19:34
schestowitz-TRhave you done further work on the new VMs?Jul 18 19:34
Techrights-secackJul 18 19:35
Techrights-secnot since earlier, added Git and tmux but did nothing moreJul 18 19:35
Techrights-secit was too big a change in thinking and I was on a roll for a while withJul 18 19:35
Techrights-secthe scriptsJul 18 19:35
schestowitz-TRfor me it is a game of survival with the heatJul 18 19:36
schestowitz-TRtrying not to sweatJul 18 19:36
schestowitz-TRtook a nap a while agoJul 18 19:36
schestowitz-TRI will clearn my rss feeds before workJul 18 19:36
Techrights-secsiestaJul 18 19:52
Techrights-secthe tm-extract-posts-sql.pl script now adds minor navigation links to eachJul 18 19:52
Techrights-secstatic page as part of the generation of each page.   Once each page is Jul 18 19:52
Techrights-secwritten, the result is of course still static, so it is fast to useJul 18 19:52
Techrights-secand external search engines then would have something to followJul 18 19:52
Techrights-secnpJul 18 19:57
Techrights-secI've forgotten FCGI again but if I can jog my memory it should be practicalJul 18 19:57
Techrights-secto implement a simple search.  Jul 18 19:57
schestowitz-TROh, I se nowJul 18 19:57
schestowitz-TRvery niceJul 18 19:57
schestowitz-TR0/Jul 18 20:15
schestowitz-TRhumid...Jul 18 20:15
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