IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, August 18, 2022

*Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-social

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rant: 2.5 hours ago bt rebooted the router after it had remoately sent an update the night before

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I didn't check last night if there was a firmware upate

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first time since April IIRC

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anyway, 2.5 hours of gemini downtime alone with various other annoyances

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but at least that did not happen during the most important cron jobs

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so all in all recovery did not take long,

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maostly had to reconnect to sessions and rerun some monitoring tasks

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BT can do this again at any timew

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without alerting us

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ack

Aug 18 08:04

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asny router that requies downtime or patching means IP address changes and such

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so I think the issue right now is, assuming no more electric outages, isn't a UPS

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or another router

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unless there's some magic one that alwayys works perfectly and never needs patching

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techrightss was again listed as 10k in lupa (first time sincer thew outage), not it's at 9955 due to it

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of course lupa doesn't mean s*** but that's just a reminder that for 2.5 hours when I was afk nobody could reach

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the capsule

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my fault was ignoring rianne's warningh, who said she could not reach the address

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I was just too tired

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she uses this address to save her files too

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I've meanwhile resumed ipfs on the pi

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I want to see if running it actually worsens access to objects

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one work-around is to use ddclient to assign an A name via a dynamic DNS service

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and then have gemini.techrights.org be a CNAME which points to the A name

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ack

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https://ddclient.net/

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apt-cache search ddclient

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ddclient.net | Home page - ddclient docs

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I like the idea of dynamic dns, except if I understand correctly that means I hand over control of the domain to some third party

Aug 18 08:09

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one that can "manage" the assignement for me

Aug 18 08:09

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afqaik gemini does not easily support multiple domains for the same cert

Aug 18 08:09

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no, you would use a second domain, though that second domain would be under

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the control of the dynamic DNS service. It has an API that ddclient can

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interacte with and keep updated as to the actual IPv4 address. No changes

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to the gemini certificat is needed.

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I think this is the first time this year my ip address changes while I'm afk

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if that happens again, I'll look into it

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another option is an alerting system re the router

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with sound alarms

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rianne warned me already, but I didn't realise our address had changed

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and went back to sleep

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Catalyst2.net might offer a dynamic service

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as well, for a fee or as part of the service

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today it took 10-15 mins for the dns changes toi propaganda through to the dns server I use via bt

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so even if that dynamic scheme worked, there would still be downtime

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depending on how quickly people's isps (or gulkag or clownflare...) update the record

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not so much down time since the CNAME would always point ot the same A name

Aug 18 08:24

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and the A name would have the short TTL

Aug 18 08:24

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It'd be easy to set up dynamic DNS for TR but the question is where.

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As mentioned, perhaps Catalyst2 offers the service. I think you'd have to

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contact their support to find out the answer though.

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Otherwise, companies like No-IP have both "free" and paid for options:

https://www.noip.com/sign-up

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.noip.com | Sign Up - Create a No-IP Dynamic DNS Account

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tuxmachines used no-ip for a long time

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remember no-ip itself had a major incident over a decade ago

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and susan was affected

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M$ or something decided to block No_IP for a while

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oh, yes, there was that too

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but there was a prior incident or incident

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that's why I said "third party" earlier

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many that use clownflare or some of the other '\acccelerators'/CDNs occasionalyl have downtime outside their control

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even EFF was down for very many hours due to this ~2 years ago

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these fallbacks are, in essence, add yet another layer or tier of failure

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instead of makin things more robust

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Or you could write your own in Python or Perl since there is access to the

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remote machine. The question would be how to update the Catalyst2 DNS entry

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in an automated manner.

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if it happens again when I am afak, I can set up alarms

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The easy part is feching the current external IP address.

Aug 18 08:36

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yes, I do this from the CLI already.

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automating update of dns records comes with its own risk

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human operator//supervision is better

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in theory something like pingdom phjone alert with your new ip address

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then you can log in and enter it

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but you can get flase positives as many things can go wrong

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logging in and changing it manually is repetitive and wasteful of time though

Aug 18 08:47

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if that happens 4 times a year and usually I detect it right away (I have alerts here), then I can live with it

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ack

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<techrights-news> August 2022 Sets New Record Lows for PCR Testing (We're Blinding Ourselves to COVID-19), Positively Rate Climbed From Under 1% in August 2020 to 6% This Year https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/18/tests-of-covid-19/

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » August 2022 Sets New Record Lows for PCR Testing (We’re Blinding Ourselves to COVID-19), Positively Rate Climbed From Under 1% in August 2020 to 6% This Year

Aug 18 09:24

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trying to locate breakdown of net b/w by prtocol

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sandvine used to do analyses

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but they seem to have languished this past decade

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this is the kind of s*** media SHOULDbe covering

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instead getting "ideas" (ASSIGNEMENTS) from GAFAM PR depts. :

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https://nitter.it/AdeleMcVayAHF/status/1560163037914566657#m

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Aug 18 10:02

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Adele (@AdeleMcVayAHF): "Here's Dr Pizza, convicted paedophile, invested a lot of time on here upset at women asserting boundaries. http://techrights.org/2020/08/16/microsoft-peter-convicted/"|nitter.it

Aug 18 10:02

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just saw it via script

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I still think TR needs to focus on topics other media fails to report on

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doing "me tooism" is pointless and has no material contribution

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the immaterial stuff is suppressed stuff, invaluable due to scarcity

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ack

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if netflix has more drm competitor or if drm as a whole is a bubble (video drm/eme), it'll be interesting

Aug 18 10:06

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to see protocol breakdown in 20202

Aug 18 10:07

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still researching this...

Aug 18 10:07

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The nitter link goes to someone trying to gaslight the poster for pointing

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out facts about several criminals having been convicted in court

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I don't get how people are still trying to defend that microsofter.

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The poster holds her own, but it is shocking that there are attempts at

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gaslighting her

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I've looked at the context

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and still lack context

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twitter is like a scene of an accident

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either way, I'd focus on real news sites

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not such gossip

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mastodon is languishing also

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diaspora is zombie/dead man walking

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FB admits loss of users

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trying to compensate with "engagement"

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'doping' for traffic

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we don't need to wait for them to die

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they will die

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we need to move on already

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as for the earlier question about bandwidth, here is a link without sources:

https://circleid.com/posts/20220221-the-explosive-growth-of-worldwide-broadband-usage

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social control media mostly exists for spreading disinformation and more

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generally for mass manipulation of public opinion

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-circleid.com | The Explosive Growth of Worldwide Broadband Usage

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thanks, looking...

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I think Internet freedom is closely related to software freedom, in a number of ways..

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and there is not enough reporting on the state of the Net

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some conflate twitter with "the Internet'\

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like "gmail" with email etc.

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they confine themselves to bubbles

https://www.sandvine.com/hubfs/Sandvine_Redesign_2019/Downloads/2022/flipbooks/Global%20Internet%20Phenomena%20Report%202022/global-internet-phenomena-report-2022.html

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bubbles and echoi chambers or sorts

Aug 18 10:14

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where some "trending hashtag" is like the centre of the(ir) universe

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yes very much a correlation

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or conflate the 'Web' with The Internet, where the web from their point of view

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is basically the browser acting as a VM for unvetted scripts of dodgy provenance

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The 'trending' part is generally a lie and the 'hashtag' has been chosen by

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Sandvine GIPR January 2022

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that social control media company for focus.

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they inject unvetted code of unknown origin into the browser to run blindly

Aug 18 10:31

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in place of static data. Static data would be much more efficient to produce

Aug 18 10:31

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and publish but that must not be the goal any more.

Aug 18 10:31

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lol, wtf happened to the sandvine site

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\they give "app"

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not pages :-)

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I've added a crude first draft

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my worries from 5 years ago seem to be a reality

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too many "phones"

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and "apps"

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and no concept of what web browsing really is

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checking

Aug 18 11:24

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[ytalks] 0:ytalk*

Aug 18 11:24

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I think we're at skinnerbox stage "online"

Aug 18 11:32

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netflix, "apps"...

Aug 18 11:33

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think of someone in africa with only an android gadget

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repeating and copying what they see/read

Aug 18 11:33

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yep

Aug 18 11:44

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TV (incl netflix hulu and others) no longer reflects society but is there to

Aug 18 11:44

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shape it

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it is generally easier to commandeer populations that think alike

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social norms are OK

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but now there seem to be effort to divide along BS lines

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the british did this in india and 'pakistan'

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not just divide but also cultivate bizarre values, ethics, and mores

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I saw a very bizarre example of it yesterday but forgot what it was

Aug 18 11:50

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dr. dobbs is compromised and lxer has just linked to a 2014 (!!!!!) article from it, entitled "redmon's remarkable reversal"

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what the fork is lxer doing?

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it's common enough, most young people spend far more contact hours with the

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various corporate skinner boxes than they do with friends+family combined

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If you think about how much bad influence one kid acting out in class

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was, that was the results of only a few minutes per day. Not only are kids

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spending /hours/ per day being programmed, but the skinner boxes are adaptive

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and change their interaction for maximal influence and control

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"engagement"

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Speaking of crap UIs, the new Thunderbird UI is a step or two downward

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thunderbird was ok before ryan started messing with it, breaking a ton of extensions very quickly

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all they had to do was keep gecko up to date, more or less

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ack

Aug 18 12:12

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you need 200mb of ram to check a football score over a web browser now

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and the pages do not look better than 20 years ago

Aug 18 12:13

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you also need to open like 20,000 files on your system for it

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exercise to the 'reader': come up with "real world" analogies for the scenario above

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(i need to free up or use up about 2gb of ram just to open thunderbird now... to read a 2k email message)

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"can you scratch my back?" "sure we'll book you for a 1-hour $100 massage sesssion"

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"I want to try french cheese" "oh, you need to book a holiday to france"

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"I need to scan a QR code to get a URL" "Your phone is too old, you need a quad-core new phone"

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"excuse me, where is the bathroom?" "The house across the road is on sale"

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"Can you replace my casio battery?" "We have a all new range of casios... why do you still use a 90s watch?" (true story)

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Aug 18 12:27

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i still receive a lot of email, most of it spam, and I check it at most once a day

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I don't even WANT to receive legit email anymore

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I prefer NOT to

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last night I checked "sent" folder

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I sent on average about 2 emails per day

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most of them are relatively short

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thunderbird does not make the email experience any better anymore

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opening it is a burden and nuisance

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contrariwise, irc is fun, fast, and light

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what needs to be accomplished, I think, is change in perspewctive re patents, Web/Net, censorship prospeccts, etc.

Aug 18 12:34

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and of course reminding people what Microsoft really is

Aug 18 12:34

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if you can change the minds of x people

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those x people can change the minds of y people

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either type x or number [x]

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and that's how society has betterment prospects

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the www and wikipedia, even cc, were inspired by gnu

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gnu itself was inspired by some political movements and thinkers

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some people run sites, thinking it would flourish as a business

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eff was barlow's way of changing the world, along with online friends

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the people who run eff mistake it for something else now

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spamnil is still clickfrauding (I checked last night... not sure if to laugh or shake my head)

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a confound there is social control media and the agenda(s) of those who control

Aug 18 12:46

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ksa:

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we own twitter (partially)

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by far the most pro-isis accounts are based in ksa (study)

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we send moles to work as STAFF of Twitter, fishing dissidents

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we use Twitter to put critics on trial

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that's just one example: ksa

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it is a multi-stakeholder platform

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I am still not happy with their handling of covid and response to it

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i think must genuinely wanted to buy it

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then it saw it was lots of sockpuppet and crap

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falsely marketed to investors

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and to "media" that uses "tweets" as authoritative links

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yes multiple interests work through twitter and the others

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is tiktok profitable? i know what 'media' might say, but net, overall, no small prints a la uber

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does the thing make money or just a power broker?

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as a means to control the youth of the US? As such it is probably an excellent

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return on investment? If that is not counted, then it's probably also running

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at a loss

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2020: the skinnerbox wars

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WHOSE box will you take? nintendo/sony (jp) or mirosoft (china)?

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whose "apps" will you run? who runs your synapses?

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"pick your poison"

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(console: waste of time, paralysing a future generation, numbing the brain)

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They're still talking about "revenue" not profit,

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2022-06-23/tiktok-becomes-cash-machine-with-revenue-tripling-to-12-billion

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So the conclusion is that it is running deeply into the red still.

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It probably always will.

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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you can BUY "revenue"

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example: dumping

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bribery

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ads, banners, subsidies

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increasing revenue is the easy part

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give me $10,000,000,000 and I can create a LARGE company

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will it be a good RoI? haha, that's the hard part

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in-q-tel

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(or pentagjon graft)

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all those "successful" businesses

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I took 2 days off work next week: tue and weds

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the site is holding up well do far

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it "feels" like over time adding new pages is a _little_ slower

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but I suppose it might be db-related

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and it's still reasonably fast

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we're talking about sub-1sec for key steps

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and we're probably at page 700+ by now

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also, some bots are starting to hammer away

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this is OK

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ack

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should the bots be identified and rate-limited?

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at least we get indexed quickly

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I think that for visibility of all pages we'll need daily/weekly/monthly archive pags

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we don't have categories (no need, those were typically a nuisance anyway)

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"Posted by bob "

http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/319827/index.html

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-LXer: Redmond's Remarkable Reversal

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this is bad as it is OLD and he is the founder

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weird choice of news pick today

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on a slightly different topic, would this be relevent to have:

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https://securitytxt.org/

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maybe he has sold out / is selling out?

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-securitytxt.org | security.txt: Proposed standard for defining security policies

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I hope not becayse

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1) his PREVIOUS site, LinuxToday, sold out

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2) I soemtiems find picks in lxer

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3) this is not good for temper (I really dislike seeing antyhing Microsoft in my feeds when I actively look for the ALTERNATIVES to it)

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what might be useful and risk-free to do first is,

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change the text at the top of all pages (the one that says go to old site)

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and maybe add a link to the rss feed in <head>

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robots.txt already gives OK defaultsa

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From old site: (under <head>) <link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="Tux Machines RSS" href="http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/feed" />

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There is no RSS feed, but there is an Atom feed at the new site. That has to

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do with the limitations of the feed generation module which is in use rather

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than writing a new module. The link is already present in the head of the

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XHTML documents:

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The text pointing to the old site which also names the new site as an alpha

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version ought to be removed if the old site is no longer getting updates.

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at the moment it is sort of self-referential because of a redirect

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I've just released trial/prosecutor docs on Graveley

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I think he's trying hard to hide this by

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1) create a NEW twitter account

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s) creating a site with fluff and lies

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3) using sockpuppets

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we run circles around him

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and he is a MASSIVE liability to MS and Mono

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ok the navigation menu is updated now

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(ℹ) These pages are on an alpha (tesing) site.

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For the production/live site, please see tuxmachines.org instead.

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much cleaner now without it

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I assume we want to keep it simple, stupid

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like in gemini

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I was thinking for two days no

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*now

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how to differentiate the UDPATED bits from latest

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I checked css selectors

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and ascii

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which updated bits, where?

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time of creation can be folded in so that it will behave as expected

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and maybe separattors

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of id or span in the markup

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the reason being, both rianne and marius thought their new pages had failed to appear

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because they didn't know it prioritised by time of update

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so then I thought, could I use css to somehow highlight one bit as different?

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the db just sorts by date_modified so once it printf's them there's nothing except the word "UPDATE" to say it's bumped up

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so I still don't know of an elegant approach

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I think it does behave as expected

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except the items where modified date is not the same as creation (newer than todat at midnight)

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could be marked as such

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like "hot stories"

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ongoing, updates etc.

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they stay on top as long as some sites still cover the theme/news

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and are therefore (typically) more important news

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like the pine64 contreoversy

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or the chinese distro, deepin

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btw, if you see the graveley docs I've just publish, you'd know whyt it took so long to put esptein in prison (FL, acosta)

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and why there's no way they'll put billg behind bars again

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as the saying goes, "bought and paid for" (legal system)

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but in the court of public opinion, that's another matter

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iow, the real trial might be in the independent media

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now some robed shills

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*not

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twitter will just ban people who try to do "trial by social media"

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unless it's conformant with objectives of twitter's owners

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ack

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ok the time of creation is tracked, I think

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I think the desirable behaviour is,

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updated items re-emerge or resurface in rss feeds and go back to top of page

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so as to attract attention to typically-bigger stories snd the updates in them

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without adding any actual clutter to the modest, fast site

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got the git changes

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ok, so now it takes also the time of day

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and adds a condition in the cascading set

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ok the time of creation is tracked, I think -- more fixing is needed

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in the update / deletion part

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gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/A_test_of_time_of_creation.gmi

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I know it's a test page

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the android link there points to time

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I guess it's due to it being a "dummy page"

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yes but it is half broken ... working

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excellent, it's all working now, http/s+gemini

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rianne has just sold javeline shoes, buyer abroad, lots in profit

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somew weeks those slaes can cover food bills

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I work tonight, monday, then free till next weekend

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ack

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I don't know how you set up and use those notificatio systems, MQTT

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I remember pieter (ffii) did a lot of pioneering work in that area

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does that interact with sms/phone?

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so-called "apps"?

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the MQTT stuff is based on mosquitto_pub and mosquitto_sub

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the broker info is in /etc/mosquitto in two text files

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the ACLs, logins, and identifiers could be handled better

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a TCP connection is maintained between the broker and the clients

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if i understand correctly, the agent dispatches notifs when some events happen

Aug 18 17:44

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instead of clients polling for updates throughout the day

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it's quite low bandwidth

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and lower CPU

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years ago we made a tuxmachines "app" for android

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in effect a preloaded and rebranded rss reader that uses the main rss feed

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in this day and age many cannot install anything (easily) outside a "store"

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even random apk files are hard

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I won't touch "app" development :(

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If someone does want to do that, I'll help from the sidelines but nothing more

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"apps" have very short lifetime

Aug 18 17:48

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for several reasons

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let me check if plasma5 and gnomeshell have some mqtt clients

Aug 18 17:49

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twitter, dikstrowatch, rss, gmail... kde notifications... nothihg mqtt upstream

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lots of other "widgets" though

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you said making a public borker is possible so that got me thinking

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knowing that no similar site does this

https://store.kde.org/p/1316886

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-store.kde.org | MQTT-Explorer - KDE Store

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our updates are also quite plain while www "bores" some people

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btw, site works well in netsurf

https://mqtt-explorer.com/

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mqtt-explorer.com | MQTT Explorer | An all-round MQTT client that provides a structured topic overview

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this comes as snap or appimage

Aug 18 17:57

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not in debian repos

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for buster:

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golang-github-eclipse-paho.mqtt.golang-dev/oldstable 1.1.1-1 all

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Go package implementing MQTT client library by Eclipse Paho

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libmosquitto-dev/oldstable,oldstable 1.5.7-1+deb10u1 amd64

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MQTT version 3.1/3.1.1 client library, development files

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libmosquitto1/oldstable,oldstable,now 1.5.7-1+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]

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MQTT version 3.1/3.1.1 client library

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libmosquittopp-dev/oldstable,oldstable 1.5.7-1+deb10u1 amd64

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MQTT version 3.1 client C++ library, development files

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libmosquittopp1/oldstable,oldstable 1.5.7-1+deb10u1 amd64

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MQTT version 3.1/3.1.1 client C++ library

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libmqtt-client-java/oldstable 1.14-1+deb10u1 all

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Java MQTT Client API

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mosquitto/oldstable,oldstable,now 1.5.7-1+deb10u1 amd64 [installed]

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MQTT version 3.1/3.1.1 compatible message broker

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mosquitto-clients/oldstable,oldstable,now 1.5.7-1+deb10u1 amd64 [installed]

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Mosquitto command line MQTT clients

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mosquitto-dev/oldstable,oldstable 1.5.7-1+deb10u1 all

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store.kde.org seems blocked by javascript or something

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Development files for Mosquitto

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node-mqtt-packet/oldstable 6.0.0-2 all

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parse and generate MQTT packets

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prosody-modules/oldstable,oldstable 0.0~hg20190203.b54e98d5c4a1+dfsg-1+deb10u1 all

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Selection of community modules for Prosody

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python-paho-mqtt/oldstable 1.4.0-1 all

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MQTT client class (Python 2)

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python3-paho-mqtt/oldstable 1.4.0-1 all

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MQTT client class (Python 3)

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No personal data is processed, sent or stored.

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The app sends telemetry and error reports, this enables me to quickly react on bugs/errors and understand what’s going on. Responding quickly to errors is one key element in producing a reliable software product.

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It basically sends: app version, processor architecture, operating system, used memory, user interactions and error stacks.

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https://www.fosslife.org/3-ways-use-steampipe

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fosslife.org | 3 Ways to Use Steampipe

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Steampipe is an open source tool that translates REST API calls directly into SQL tables, says Jon Udell. Or, as the Steampipe docs say: “Steampipe exposes APIs and services as a high-performance relational database, giving you the ability to write SQL-based queries to explore dynamic data.”

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In this article, Udell provides three examples of SQL queries using Steampipe, noting that “when APIs frictionlessly become tables, you can devote your full attention to reasoning over the abstractions represented by those APIs.”

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ack

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No personal data is processed, sent or stored.

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The app sends telemetry and error reports, this enables me to quickly react on bugs/errors and understand whats going on. Responding quickly to errors is one ke

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y element in producing a reliable software product.

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It basically sends: app version, processor architecture, operating system, used memory, user interactions and error stacks.

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they used to warn you before sending "crash report"

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now they dub it "Telemetry" and hardl even tell you that this is happening

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unless you read very fine prints (if they exist)

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kate got caught