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Techrights-sec2                    misconfigured referrer from tuxmachines.orgSep 18 07:25
Techrights-sec2to news.tuxmachines.org looking for [Thu Aug 18 12:23:02.393560 2022] [autoindex:error] [pid 7721] [client 144.168.178.140:59432] AH01276: Cannot serve direSep 18 07:25
Techrights-sec2^mispasteSep 18 07:25
Techrights-sec2looking for :Sep 18 07:25
Techrights-sec2http://news.tuxmachines.org/old/                            Sep 18 07:25
Techrights-sec2The referrer is not set up right.  There is no top-level index there..    Sep 18 07:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux MachinesSep 18 07:25
Techrights-sec2Requests for the top-level index in /old/ need to go to / instead.  Sep 18 07:25
Techrights-sec2Rather than turn on redirection for that server already, there is nowSep 18 07:25
Techrights-sec2a hardlink to the main index there so that if people end up in thatSep 18 07:25
Techrights-sec2directory without a specific node in mind, they are shown the new materialSep 18 07:25
Techrights-sec2That might not be what you had in mind though.    Sep 18 07:25
schestowitz-TRI reckon in the mirror there is something with relative links somewhereSep 18 07:27
schestowitz-TRlike  ../..Sep 18 07:27
schestowitz-TRbut I am not sure whereSep 18 07:27
schestowitz-TRdid you cofigure that OK to 'fix' it?Sep 18 07:27
schestowitz-TRit looks like you didSep 18 07:27
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Techrights-sec2There seems to be a refe misconfigured referrer from tuxmachines.orgSep 18 07:33
schestowitz-TRthe old site still gets more traffic than the old oneSep 18 07:33
schestowitz-TRbecause of the mass of material thereSep 18 07:33
schestowitz-TRbut over time it'll changeSep 18 07:33
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schestowitz-TRone option is, set up 404 or error pages to redirect to front pageSep 18 07:41
schestowitz-TRmany sites do thisSep 18 07:41
schestowitz-TRatm, front page has a button for "search" that goes to bland error pageSep 18 07:41
schestowitz-TR*footer linkSep 18 07:41
Techrights-sec2            Sep 18 07:41
Techrights-sec2I was going to change the configuration but that would be overkill whenSep 18 07:41
Techrights-sec2adding a hardlink to the main index was a sufficient work-aroundSep 18 07:41
Techrights-sec2Hmm  The search part should have been commented out ages ago.     Sep 18 07:41
Techrights-sec2I'll comment it out again Sep 18 07:41
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schestowitz-TRheadsup: today if officially our anniversary, i drew a card last night, took agesSep 18 07:44
schestowitz-TRtonight we look for foodsSep 18 07:44
schestowitz-TRas tomorrow all shops here are shutSep 18 07:44
schestowitz-TRso they need to clear inventoriesSep 18 07:44
schestowitz-TRthis means not so much output from the sitesSep 18 07:44
Techrights-sec2thanks for spottingthatSep 18 07:45
Techrights-sec2Equinox is not until Friday and that's not a holiday.Sep 18 07:45
Techrights-sec2At least it's not an official holiday. Sep 18 07:45
Techrights-sec2https://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/fun/talk-like-a-pirate-daySep 18 07:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.timeanddate.com | International Talk Like a Pirate Day – Fun HolidaySep 18 07:45
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schestowitz-TRif you enter root at new TM, then tmux session "logs"Sep 18 08:42
schestowitz-TRwatch the essl warnings at the  bottomSep 18 08:42
schestowitz-TRis this normal?Sep 18 08:42
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Techrights-sec2checkingSep 18 08:48
Techrights-sec2"server certificate does NOT include an ID which matches the server name"Sep 18 08:48
Techrights-sec2that is a slight misconfiguration of the certificate,Sep 18 08:48
Techrights-sec2as is,Sep 18 08:48
Techrights-sec2server certificate is a CA certificateSep 18 08:48
Techrights-sec2Something was off when generating the CA and the cert, I think, but I've notSep 18 08:48
Techrights-sec2much experience thereSep 18 08:48
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Techrights-sec2backSep 18 09:19
Techrights-sec2Can you generate the required CA, key(s), and certificates?Sep 18 09:19
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schestowitz-TRI usually just run one command and enter the detailsSep 18 09:21
schestowitz-TRthat's what I did beforeSep 18 09:21
schestowitz-TRI think you later replaced it with something elseSep 18 09:21
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Techrights-sec2Just moved things around IIRC.  Either way, I am rather unfamiliar with theSep 18 09:41
Techrights-sec2processSep 18 09:41
schestowitz-TRI am guessing that, in any event, suppressing alerts short of outsourcing is infeasibleSep 18 09:43
schestowitz-TRunless I am mistakenSep 18 09:43
schestowitz-TReven if you run your own CASep 18 09:43
schestowitz-TRof course none of that actually assures security and privacy either waySep 18 09:43
schestowitz-TRit protects you from ISP snoopingSep 18 09:43
schestowitz-TRand cannot tell you if a site is truly secureSep 18 09:43
schestowitz-TRthe ISP can lie to youSep 18 09:43
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Techrights-sec2So, should those files be re-generated?  What formula did you use?Sep 18 10:19
schestowitzin centos it wasSep 18 10:19
schestowitz openssl req -new -days 365 -x509 -nodes -newkey rsa:2048 -out /etc/pki/tls/certs/localhost.crt -keyout /etc/pki/tls/private/localhost.keySep 18 10:19
Techrights-sec2thanks,   Sep 18 10:27
Techrights-sec2hmm.  usually there are two or three stepsSep 18 10:27
Techrights-sec2Checking Netcraft, there seems to be a problem with the name provided inSep 18 10:48
Techrights-sec2the certificate: https://sitereport.netcraft.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.tuxmachines.orgSep 18 10:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-sitereport.netcraft.com | Site report for https://news.tuxmachines.org | NetcraftSep 18 10:48
schestowitz-TRi looked some weeks agoSep 18 10:49
schestowitz-TRand noticed a site name etc. was absentSep 18 10:49
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schestowitzI think I found a bug. See https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Games_OpenTTD_and_Total_War_Classics_Bundle.shtml the image...Sep 18 11:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Games: OpenTTD and Total War Classics BundleSep 18 11:45
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schestowitz-TRI think I found a bug. See https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Games_OpenTTD_and_Total_War_Classics_Bundle.shtml the image...Sep 18 11:58
schestowitz-TRbrb  daily linksSep 18 11:58
schestowitz-TRtryint not to multitsk yetSep 18 11:58
Techrights-sec2I guess new ones should be generated then.Sep 18 11:59
Techrights-sec2checkingSep 18 11:59
Techrights-sec2It is something about how Apache2 is handling space in paths and file names.Sep 18 11:59
Techrights-sec2A work-around would be to have the script remove / replace them rather thanSep 18 11:59
Techrights-sec2escape them.Sep 18 11:59
Techrights-sec2ackSep 18 11:59
schestowitz-TRah, I think you have changed the file nameSep 18 12:03
schestowitz-TRas it works nowSep 18 12:03
schestowitz-TRI've just finished daily linksSep 18 12:03
schestowitz-TRhow was the curerent TM cert generated and when? it was many blank fields when I checked weeks agoSep 18 12:06
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Techrights-sec2I'm not sure but am rather sure I did not do it since I have been filling inSep 18 12:36
Techrights-sec2the various fields whenever I've done certificates.  These seem to have beenSep 18 12:36
Techrights-sec2filled in with filler.Sep 18 12:36
Techrights-sec2$ ls -lhrt /etc/ssl/apache2/Sep 18 12:36
Techrights-sec2total 8.0KSep 18 12:36
Techrights-sec2-rw------- 1 root root 1.7K Jul 19 03:52 server.keySep 18 12:36
Techrights-sec2-rw------- 1 root root 1.5K Jul 19 03:52 server.pemSep 18 12:36
schestowitz-TRi suppoer we could just replace theseSep 18 13:13
schestowitz-TR*supposeSep 18 13:13
schestowitz-TRand give a long-term expiry dateSep 18 13:13
schestowitz-TRmaybe that can appease some validator/sSep 18 13:13
Techrights-sec2okSep 18 13:13
schestowitz-TRby default we still link to http on TMSep 18 13:15
schestowitz-TRi did not change these because I didn't want the change itself to be detected as suspiciousSep 18 13:15
schestowitz-TRthe front end of the site is read onlySep 18 13:15
schestowitz-TRso while privacy might be a factorSep 18 13:15
schestowitz-TRsecurity is notSep 18 13:15
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Techrights-sec2New Apache2 certificates in place:Sep 18 14:11
Techrights-sec2https://sitereport.netcraft.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.tuxmachines.orgSep 18 14:11
Techrights-sec2but for just the one host name.  No wildcards etcSep 18 14:11
Techrights-sec2openssl req -newkey rsa:4096  -x509  -sha512  -days 1111 -nodes -out server.pem -keyout server.keySep 18 14:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-sitereport.netcraft.com | Site report for https://news.tuxmachines.org | NetcraftSep 18 14:11
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schestowitz-TRthanks for swapping the certSep 18 14:30
schestowitz-TRI hope this will quiet down some more clientsSep 18 14:30
schestowitz-TRanbd servicesSep 18 14:30
schestowitz-TRI still think that the www will change for the worse in the coming decadeSep 18 14:30
schestowitz-TRbut I don't know how, nobody can predict >software< that farSep 18 14:30
schestowitz-TRryan says FB fell 80%Sep 18 14:30
schestowitz-TRI did not checkSep 18 14:30
schestowitz-TRI saw adobe fall 17% in a daySep 18 14:30
schestowitz-TRit bouhgt some utter shit (web-based crap; wasm)Sep 18 14:30
schestowitz-TRtrying to stay relevantSep 18 14:30
schestowitz-TRour into and outro video bits were all made with Canva]Sep 18 14:30
schestowitz-TRWeb-basedSep 18 14:30
schestowitz-TRnot shabby for a budget of $0Sep 18 14:30
schestowitz-TRI think last I checked they added some paywalls for the same thingsSep 18 14:30
schestowitz-TRso it's a good thing I made enough of theseSep 18 14:30
schestowitz-TRatm I don't have video topics/ideasSep 18 14:30
schestowitz-TRand epo series is delayed a bitSep 18 14:30
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Techrights-sec2ackSep 18 14:40
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> bob poekert (@bobpoekert): "software that was made before everyone was tracking and optimizing for engagement is better in a way that's hard to describe" |nitter.it ⚓ https://nitter.eu/bobpoekert/status/1570103373906735105 | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//nitter.eu/bobpoekert/status/1570103373906735105Sep 18 14:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-bob poekert (@bobpoekert): "software that was made before everyone was tracking and optimizing for engagement is better in a way that's hard to describe"|nitter.itSep 18 14:40
schestowitz-TRI've given ocean trends instructions on add and updateSep 18 14:42
schestowitz-TRassuming the keys would work okSep 18 14:42
schestowitz-TRtoday news is very slowSep 18 14:42
schestowitz-TRit's more dead than liz iiSep 18 14:42
Techrights-sec2ackSep 18 14:42
schestowitz-TRyes, that is esp. useful on quiet sundaysSep 18 14:43
schestowitz-TRi'ms till trying to think of GOOD topics to coverSep 18 14:43
schestowitz-TRsometimes I have a brainstorming strategtSep 18 14:43
schestowitz-TRlists of things and sites to checkSep 18 14:43
schestowitz-TReven regarding covid-19 it's hard to find data pointsSep 18 14:43
Techrights-sec2Even the Fediverse is slowing down a lot.  There were never many posts withSep 18 14:46
Techrights-sec2links and now there are even fewer so checking even once a week is mostlySep 18 14:46
Techrights-sec2a waste of time.  Checking once every other week might be worth the effort,Sep 18 14:46
Techrights-sec2maybe.Sep 18 14:46
Techrights-sec2https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/18/us/womens-march-russia-trump.htmlSep 18 14:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nytimes.com | How Russian Trolls Helped Keep the Women’s March Out of Lock Step - The New York TimesSep 18 14:46
Techrights-sec2Twitter and FacebookSep 18 14:46
Techrights-sec2were used by astoturfers to play the publicSep 18 14:46
schestowitz-TRfediverse will dieSep 18 14:47
schestowitz-TRthe slowdown was long comingSep 18 14:47
schestowitz-TRit peaked like 5 eyars agoSep 18 14:47
schestowitz-TRmnore and more people will, over time, realise they are wasting their timeSep 18 14:47
schestowitz-TRi just want to point out that in 2022 I did not quit what I joined in 2009Sep 18 14:47
schestowitz-TRthe same domain names, sure..Sep 18 14:47
schestowitz-TRbut not the same things anymoreSep 18 14:47
Techrights-sec2Yes that's quite true though the seeds of what it has become were already      Sep 18 14:49
Techrights-sec2growing by then anyway.Sep 18 14:49
schestowitz-TRin 2010 twitter canceled the likes of mubarak for torturing peopleSep 18 14:50
schestowitz-TRin 2020 people cancel a book author for insisting on biologySep 18 14:50
schestowitz-TRplatform owners and hordes of manipultors do not want power to be challengedSep 18 14:50
schestowitz-TRrather, than use libel and stuff (e.g. rms) to overthrow those who challenged powerSep 18 14:50
schestowitz-TRbrexit, tories, etc.Sep 18 14:50
Techrights-sec2Or for insisting on feminism.  That may be the true target of those influencingSep 18 14:50
Techrights-sec2the attacking brigades.Sep 18 14:50
Techrights-sec2Brexit was half the Kremlin's doingSep 18 14:50
Techrights-sec2The tories are a means to an end there.Sep 18 14:50
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> "Four years later, Rushkoff has turned his experience with the wealthy, the technology-addled, and the selfish-solutionist wing of Silicon Valley into a book called Survival of the Richest: Escape Fantasies of the Tech Billionaires. It's great." https://pluralistic.net/2022/09/13/collapse-porn/#collapse-pornSep 18 14:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pluralistic.net | Pluralistic: 13 Sep 2022 Survival of the Richest – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory DoctorowSep 18 14:51
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Survival of the Richest https://pluralistic.net/2022/09/13/collapse-porn/#collapse-porn "The super-rich attendees at the conference were obsessed with "The Event" – civil unrest, environmental collapse, some other end-of-the-world scenario"Sep 18 14:51
schestowitz-TRnot much debate in twitter about replacing oilSep 18 14:52
schestowitz-TRor other daring topicsSep 18 14:52
schestowitz-TRthat might even get one suspendedSep 18 14:52
schestowitz-TRcannot question bill gates eitherSep 18 14:52
schestowitz-TRor osiSep 18 14:52
Techrights-sec2Nope. Anything other than praise for His Billness is heresy.Sep 18 15:04
Techrights-sec2He did not only personally invent The Internet but also anything good aboutSep 18 15:04
Techrights-sec2computers.  /sarcasmSep 18 15:04
schestowitz-TRspoke to my dad for an hour and he said a good billioanire might be bezos the wifeSep 18 15:06
schestowitz-TRbut could nolt even name her! Sep 18 15:06
schestowitz-TRI said, so you seem to know, basd on "the press"Sep 18 15:06
schestowitz-TRthat she does goodSep 18 15:06
schestowitz-TRbut you don't even know her name!!Sep 18 15:06
schestowitz-TRof course she was always there with jeffSep 18 15:06
schestowitz-TRrunning the business with himSep 18 15:06
schestowitz-TRbut he attributes tax evasion and other things just to the husbandSep 18 15:06
schestowitz-TRand he forgets who owns the mediaSep 18 15:06
schestowitz-TReven jeff bought some of the mediaSep 18 15:06
schestowitz-TRto set the toneSep 18 15:06
schestowitz-TRthe media became a "line of defence"Sep 18 15:06
Techrights-sec2ackSep 18 15:10
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schestowitz-TRin persuit of topics I've just ecchedked twitter analyticsSep 18 15:12
schestowitz-TRit's still going downSep 18 15:12
schestowitz-TRthat site is dying   Sep 18 15:12
schestowitz-TRthis is based on a dataset of 951k tweetsSep 18 15:12
schestowitz-TRyou could easily see twitter faking it to impress musk and then it fell offSep 18 15:12
schestowitz-TRas a side noteSep 18 15:12
schestowitz-TRI am 100% sure that in blog posts and news sites that I readSep 18 15:12
schestowitz-TRthe authors seldom cite tweets like they did in past yearsSep 18 15:12
schestowitz-TRwhich means they don't pay much attention to itSep 18 15:12
Techrights-sec2Interoperability and vendor lock-in are always (most unfortunately) relevantSep 18 15:15
Techrights-sec2topics.  There were some links about how the EU now consides the exit costsSep 18 15:15
Techrights-sec2to be part of the TCO of a system.  That, if ever taken seriously, would   Sep 18 15:15
Techrights-sec2absolutely kill M$.Sep 18 15:15
Techrights-sec2old: https://gizmodo.com/cory-doctorow-copyright-laws-tech-antitrust-1849376858Sep 18 15:18
Techrights-sec2protocolsSep 18 15:18
Techrights-sec2dmca etcSep 18 15:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gizmodo.com | Cory Doctorow On 20 Years Of Copyright WarsSep 18 15:18
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schestowitz-TRhe mention the issue this past week Sep 18 15:33
schestowitz-TRI think I found a "topic"Sep 18 15:33
schestowitz-TRbrbSep 18 15:33
schestowitz-TRdraftSep 18 15:33
schestowitz-TRi tried to present it clearlySep 18 15:33
Techrights-sec2checkingSep 18 15:33
Techrights-sec2It's essential to mention the OEM monopolies and the difficulty in getting Sep 18 15:33
Techrights-sec2whitebox system too.Sep 18 15:33
Techrights-sec2let alone pre-installed GNU/Linux or FreeBSD (or FreeBSD distro)Sep 18 15:33
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schestowitz-TRadded odf and chartSep 18 16:00
schestowitz-TRi cannot find an actual video of what torvalds said last weekSep 18 16:00
schestowitz-TRat the event Sep 18 16:00
schestowitz-TRassuming he was there saying things about rusta and moreSep 18 16:00
schestowitz-TRI don't want lf contractors to have leeway to just quote-mine himSep 18 16:00
schestowitzhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=l1qazhTADxYSep 18 16:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Creator of Linux Linus Torvalds believes "Nothing better than C" - InvidiousSep 18 16:00
schestowitzhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=b5-vGyflhaESep 18 16:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Founder of Linux (Linus Torvalds )about one and ONLY Programming language 🤯❗❗❗ - InvidiousSep 18 16:01
schestowitznew uploads, but I cannot find what he said last weekSep 18 16:01
schestowitzabout rust in 6.1.xSep 18 16:01
Techrights-sec2https://www.theregister.com/2022/09/16/rust_in_the_linux_kernel/Sep 18 16:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.com | Rust is coming to the Linux kernel • The RegisterSep 18 16:12
Techrights-sec2https://medium.com/codex/rust-may-make-it-into-the-next-linux-kernel-after-all-d29f659b18e8Sep 18 16:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Rust may make it into the next Linux kernel after all | by Nikhil Adithyan | CodeX | Sep, 2022 | MediumSep 18 16:12
schestowitz-TRthanks, i saw and linked to all but one of theseSep 18 16:15
schestowitz-TRbut could not findSep 18 16:15
schestowitz-TRphotosSep 18 16:15
schestowitz-TRor videosSep 18 16:15
schestowitz-TRboth article from jsvn have link sin bright blueSep 18 16:16
schestowitz-TRabout Apple MacBookSep 18 16:16
schestowitz-TRthey link to apple.comSep 18 16:16
schestowitz-TRboth articlesdSep 18 16:16
schestowitz-TRspecial linkSep 18 16:16
schestowitz-TRmaybe affiliate marketingSep 18 16:16
schestowitz-TRmaybe that also biases the topics they coverSep 18 16:16
schestowitz-TR---Sep 18 16:32
schestowitz-TRdraftSep 18 16:32
schestowitz-TRwait, I will add a photo of his dadSep 18 16:32
schestowitz-TRit's like comparing assange after 12+ years of limb to shipman (dad)Sep 18 16:33
schestowitz-TR*limboSep 18 16:33
schestowitz-TRadded to draftSep 18 16:33
schestowitz-TRnils looks like his older brother :/Sep 18 16:33
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Techrights-sec2could be affliated marketing or the same corporate press releaseSep 18 17:05
schestowitz-TRthey did not consider the factor or real healthSep 18 17:19
schestowitz-TRwhen treating the personl like there were issues pertaining to mental healthSep 18 17:19
schestowitz-TRbut as we all know, nowadays there is also a tendency to overmedicate and over-diagnose people with... stuffSep 18 17:19
schestowitz-TRand then sell them solutions -- ones they do not need and may in fact create problemsSep 18 17:20
schestowitz-TRmaybe he went on snacks and cola dietSep 18 17:20
schestowitz-TRand no exerciseSep 18 17:20
schestowitz-TRin 2022 you can see a big bellySep 18 17:20
schestowitz-TRbut he barely shows himselfSep 18 17:20
schestowitz-TRthat typically indicates he prefers not to be seenSep 18 17:20
schestowitz-TRbblSep 18 17:31
schestowitz-TRgoing to buy discounted food before shops close for a daySep 18 17:31
schestowitz-TRbtw, in "other sites" in TM you can now see what happens when it is an empty set)Sep 18 17:31
Techrights-sec2ackSep 18 17:31
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Techrights-sec2CSS now hides that element if it is empty (no definition list)Sep 18 19:50
Techrights-sec2Adding another feed or two wouldn't hurt though.  Recommendations?Sep 18 19:50
Techrights-sec2$ grep '^h' rss-since-scraper.config | wc -lSep 18 19:50
Techrights-sec25Sep 18 19:50
Techrights-sec2https://linuxgizmos.com/feed/ ?Sep 18 19:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/feed/ )Sep 18 19:50
Techrights-sec2https://www.tomshardware.com/feeds/all ?Sep 18 19:50
schestowitz-TRhttps://linuxgizmos.com/feed/ is goodSep 18 19:52
schestowitz-TRI've been friends with the site's founder and they linked to tuxmachines in every page for years\Sep 18 19:52
schestowitz-TRhttps://www.tomshardware.com/feeds/all is full of affiliate masrketing spamSep 18 19:52
schestowitz-TRi know because I check itSep 18 19:52
schestowitz-TRso without filtering it's not a good fit for TMSep 18 19:52
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schestowitz-TRyour capsule is offlineSep 18 20:41
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