●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 ●● ● Oct 18 [01:00] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 18 [02:13] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [02:13] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [02:25] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [02:25] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 18 [03:08] techrights-sec What were SUEPO and PCT-EPO ? [03:35] schestowitz-TR gm/ping3 [03:47] techrights-sec gm [03:48] schestowitz-TR I think I rushed a bit and could do better explaining acronyms [03:48] schestowitz-TR I'm still so happy that epo faces backlash from "clients" [03:49] techrights-sec np just that it helps a lot of casual and/or new visitors to have the [03:49] techrights-sec acronyms expanded. It especially helps in Gemini, because I figure the [03:49] techrights-sec demographics there are people who would benefit highly from knowing what's going [03:49] techrights-sec on at the European Patent Office and how it is a threat to everything they [03:49] techrights-sec work with. [03:50] schestowitz-TR most people don't know what PATENTS really are [03:50] schestowitz-TR or what PCT is, which relies on knowing what PATENTS are [03:50] schestowitz-TR and what a SCAM they have become [03:58] techrights-sec PCT, I might guess due to being around here for long time, might [03:58] techrights-sec be the Patent Cooperation Treaty. Knowing for sure would allow me (or others) [03:58] techrights-sec to look up what that actually is for. Though the search engines probably steer [03:58] techrights-sec to disinformation / propaganda sites like WIPO.int and EPO.org or Wikipedia.org [03:58] techrights-sec "Pacific Crest Trail" ? [03:58] techrights-sec Since most people don't know what patents are, it helps to periodically throw [03:58] techrights-sec in a reminder that patents govern usage. Most developers and nealy all general [03:58] techrights-sec users of softare are fixated on distribution, which is an aspect irrelevant [03:58] techrights-sec to patents. The Unisys LZW patent mistake needs to be rubbed in people's faces [03:58] techrights-sec in such situations. [03:58] techrights-sec There are other examples, too, which show that LZW was not a one-off or a fluke [03:58] techrights-sec but part of the design of the patent system. [03:58] techrights-sec Or at least part of the design of the current incarnation of the patent system. [03:58] techrights-sec "standards-essential" patents are another landmine of sorts. [03:58] techrights-sec Patents, as we both know, are very separate from copyright, but the use of the [03:58] techrights-sec misleading, nonsensical phrase "Intellectual Property" works well to confuse [03:59] techrights-sec both. [03:59] schestowitz-TR standards and patents are not compstible [03:59] schestowitz-TR but there are a bunch of "pragmatic" liars who would lie for the religion of patents [03:59] techrights-sec I would go as far as to say that if there are patents involved then we are [03:59] techrights-sec talking about a specification which is not and can never be an actual standard ● Oct 18 [04:17] techrights-sec Most of the TR articles in recent years seem to be aimed at European Patent [04:17] techrights-sec Office staff and other insiders. If outreach to new groups is desireable, [04:17] techrights-sec some small tweaks could be made to the way new articles are written such [04:17] techrights-sec that the terminology is made more accessible to new and/or casual visitors [04:17] techrights-sec while still digging deeply as usual for the insiders. [04:23] schestowitz-TR in techrights we covered this many times before, even earlier this month [04:34] techrights-sec It looks like just the processing fees are near 10000 EUR, and that lawyer [04:34] techrights-sec fees will be on top of that. [04:37] schestowitz-TR on the 'upside', many patent propaganda hives have gone quiet this past year [04:37] schestowitz-TR not sure what to make of it as clearly the patenting activity itself carries on [04:39] techrights-sec Yet since software, mathematical formulas, and business models cannot be [04:39] techrights-sec patented and are ineligble for patents, such an application will waste [04:39] techrights-sec an enormous amount of company money for an end result of nothing. [04:39] techrights-sec Company lawyers are not cheap. [04:39] techrights-sec It will probably come back to bite those that have wasted their own company's [04:39] techrights-sec money on software patent applicaions. [04:39] schestowitz-TR they kept promoting the myth you won't get any VC $ unless you get patents [04:40] techrights-sec [04:40] techrights-sec That's the myth, yes, but what is the source of that myth? The source [04:40] techrights-sec could be found and dealt with. [04:40] techrights-sec ^ topic ? [04:42] schestowitz-TR the cynic in me says a lot of takeovers are 'fake' [04:42] schestowitz-TR and VC money is like buying a football team [04:42] schestowitz-TR accounting trick and loophole made up by the exploters [04:42] schestowitz-TR yesterday I mentioned one clown company seeking a takeover [04:42] schestowitz-TR sometimes their aim is to get bought,not make money [04:42] schestowitz-TR which means the staff get rehired elsewhere [04:42] schestowitz-TR somewhere "too big to fail" (subsidies/graft/bailout) [04:43] techrights-sec I'm not sure which fictions the VC parrot to each other. [04:44] schestowitz https://endsoftwarepatents.org/2010/03/interview-brad-feld/ [04:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-endsoftwarepatents.org | Interview: Brad Feld End Software Patents [04:44] schestowitz https://feld.com/archives/2010/05/software-patent-absurdity/ [04:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Software Patent Absurdity - Brad Feld [04:55] schestowitz-TR sorry to be changing the subject (by all means see the above; TR covered that a lot at the time),d [04:55] schestowitz-TR daemonfc says some mask mandates now come back to parts of USA [04:55] schestowitz-TR which, to me, merely validates the stance [04:55] schestowitz-TR I think I'll pursue some more open data on death totals [04:58] DaemonFC On one hand, kind of. [04:58] DaemonFC They're a mask suggestion. [04:58] DaemonFC On the other hand, the order does actual harm. [04:59] DaemonFC Drops the weekly test mandate for healthcare workers, and the mask one too. [04:59] DaemonFC They have no idea what they're doing and even if they did, it's all politics. [04:59] DaemonFC The voting is going on because Illinois has 40 days of "early voting". ● Oct 18 [05:00] DaemonFC They don't want you to feel like you're being "burdened" during an election where things beyond their control are already happening that are quite serious and bad. [05:01] DaemonFC Is COVID beyond our control. Yes. Is it totally beyond our control? No. [05:02] DaemonFC It's beyond our control who gets it and exactly when and how often. [05:02] DaemonFC About the only control exists in macro. [05:02] DaemonFC At the macro level. [05:02] DaemonFC So they're not requiring anyone to do anything anymore, and that makes COVID entirely beyond the control of everyone else again. [05:03] DaemonFC Except that they might get vaccinated and wear N95 masks, but it's optional. [05:03] DaemonFC And the vaccines won't last long because there's enough idiots and poor people floating around that the virus has plenty of hosts to quickly infect and mutate in. [05:04] DaemonFC The vaccine companies WON'T send the good stuff to poor countries. [05:04] DaemonFC So they basically have to go beg China and Russia for some of their crap that they can't even maintain quality control on. [05:05] techrights-sec ack [05:05] DaemonFC Like, the Chinese are using old vaccine tech, but....They've also had batches that they've injected lots of people with where it turns out they didn't even make it right. [05:05] DaemonFC And it was live virus. [05:05] schestowitz-TR studying the data from ireland atm [05:05] schestowitz-TR they have some 2022 data [05:08] techrights-sec ack [05:08] DaemonFC There should have been one vaccine platform and a global distribution agreement ahead of time. [05:08] DaemonFC At least now we know Plague Inc. was optimistic. [05:15] schestowitz-TR I got data, DaemonFC [05:15] schestowitz-TR hand on [05:15] schestowitz-TR *hang [05:28] techrights-sec ack [05:29] schestowitz-TR Ireland's Death (Mortality) Data: Deaths Not Slowing Down Since Pandemic's Peak, Totals Still 11% Higher Than Pr [05:29] schestowitz-TR e-Pandemic https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/18/ireland-death-data/ [05:29] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Irelands Death (Mortality) Data: Deaths Not Slowing Down Since Pandemics Peak, Totals Still 11% Higher Than Pre-Pandemic [05:29] schestowitz-TR It would be hard to do with non-English-speaking countries, but maybe feasible [05:29] schestowitz-TR I did: UK, Ireland, USA, Australia [05:31] schestowitz Release date: 2022-01-24 [05:31] schestowitz https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1310070801 [05:31] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www150.statcan.gc.ca | Deaths, by month [05:31] schestowitz but they do not release any data older than 2020 [05:31] schestowitz strange! [05:36] schestowitz-TR checked again and again [05:36] schestowitz-TR other sites two [05:36] schestowitz-TR canada's death data is 2 years behind [05:36] schestowitz-TR this is strange because ireland has q1 data for 2022 [05:36] schestowitz-TR uk has q2 and most of q3 (by week) [05:36] schestowitz-TR iirc, usa has q1 for 2022 [05:36] schestowitz-TR but tries to hide anything older than 21 months [05:37] schestowitz-TR don't ask me why... [05:37] schestowitz-TR I had to use wayback machine for cdc site [05:37] techrights-sec Almost certainly to prevent comparisons, so as to normalize the current [05:37] techrights-sec death rates in the minds of the public. [05:41] schestowitz-TR i did not mention it in my blog post: [05:41] schestowitz-TR if you don't get the data, which required filling forma and getting csv files [05:41] schestowitz-TR then you go by written summaries [05:41] schestowitz-TR they gloated deaths were "down" this year [05:41] schestowitz-TR they were down like 0.05% [05:41] schestowitz-TR compared to 2021 (pandemic!) [05:41] schestowitz-TR but you need to check pre-pandemic [05:41] schestowitz-TR I can find the uel [05:41] schestowitz-TR it is, in my mind, rather misleading [05:41] schestowitz-TR *url [05:41] schestowitz-TR (people might - NAUGHTY NAUGHTY - get the impression the vaccines did NOT solve the problem) [05:41] schestowitz-TR CDC: ok, let's save 1KB in a 100KB pages [05:41] schestowitz-TR by removing some part years [05:41] schestowitz-TR *past [05:41] schestowitz-TR this will save them bandwidth costs [05:41] schestowitz-TR (a bit) [05:44] techrights-sec There is a category of videos taken of people saying goodbye before [05:44] techrights-sec they are put into a 'coma', effectively euthenized. It's a specific word, [05:44] techrights-sec but I can't recall it at the moment. [05:44] techrights-sec It won't save them any money but will hide the problem. Any cost saving [05:44] techrights-sec assertions are lies used to misdirect from hiding the data. [05:44] techrights-sec ack [05:45] schestowitz-TR i was being facetious ;-) [05:45] techrights-sec ack ● Oct 18 [07:23] schestowitz-TR gemini requests for pages from august 17.5k [07:23] schestowitz-TR sept 39k [07:23] schestowitz-TR october 9690 [07:23] schestowitz-TR for TM logs of past 4 weeks [07:23] schestowitz-TR not counting front page, rss/xml etc. [07:23] schestowitz-TR just nodes ● Oct 18 [08:00] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:01] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@fdnb6jwcv4ndi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 18 [09:25] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Oct 18 [10:18] *parsifal (~parsifal@8vte7vm6885eu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:30] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [10:38] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:39] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:54] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 18 [11:02] schestowitz-TR [11:02] Straw man https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/17/5g-airplane-interference-worries-were-largely-overhyped/ | Source: Techdirt [11:02] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-5G Airplane Interference Worries Were Largely Overhyped | Techdirt [11:09] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [11:36] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:52] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [11:53] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 18 [12:18] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@zntiyf2q7hy7n.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:28] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:32] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [12:33] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:34] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 18 [13:05] schestowitz-TR spot-checking the ireland data, the biggest increase in deaths towards higher ages [13:05] schestowitz-TR but 10% increase among 25-35 [13:05] schestowitz-TR sample set there (# of deaths) not very large for those 3 months though [13:06] techrights-sec ack [13:07] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:07] schestowitz-TR [13:06] Happens in Wales too, we've heard https://telex.hu/english/2022/10/18/hungarys-biggest-hotel-and-several-spas-to-close-for-winter-due-to-soaring-energy-prices | Source: Telex (Hungary) [13:07] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-telex.hu | Telex: Hungary's biggest hotel and several spas to close for winter due to soaring energy prices [13:09] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:10] schestowitz-TR during pandemic I had to urgently buy some splitter for rianne's computers [13:10] schestowitz-TR one thing about it I never saw before, it came with USB sockets too [13:10] schestowitz-TR it was expensive, but I assume safe (higher quality) [13:12] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [13:24] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [13:26] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:30] schestowitz-TR [13:30] CBL-Mariner 2.0 is barely used by anyone. Phoronix has quickly become Microsoft booster, maybe for clicks' sake. https://www.phoronix.com/news/CBL-Mariner-2.0-October-2022 [13:30] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Microsoft Releases Its Linux Distribution Update For October 2022 - Phoronix [13:32] schestowitz-TR [13:31] Does Larabel equate click with popularity? Maybe he's just causing anger, hence clicks. Either way, the perspective gets all hazy when you're selling ads. [13:32] techrights-sec Rage clicking? [13:33] schestowitz-TR social control media is optimising for emotional reactions [13:33] schestowitz-TR that's part of the unhealthy nature of it [13:33] schestowitz-TR someone posted clickbait headline in IRC the other day [13:33] schestowitz-TR admfubar IIRC [13:34] schestowitz-TR it forces you to click to know what it's all about [13:34] techrights-sec Yes. The induce emotional imbalance is the key component driving "engagement". [13:35] techrights-sec That would be the textbook example of clickbait. Agreed, clickbait is not [13:35] techrights-sec too different than milder forms of trolling. [13:35] techrights-sec https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolling_(fishing) [13:35] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Trolling (fishing) - Wikipedia [13:36] schestowitz-TR results in conflict and time-wasting [13:36] schestowitz-TR similar to Internet trolling [13:38] schestowitz-TR eventually [13:38] schestowitz-TR (irc, social control media, news sites) [13:38] schestowitz-TR you will lose the audicnece [13:38] schestowitz-TR because they will start to associate presence of partiicpation with a high degress of tension and a lack of fruit [13:38] schestowitz-TR ful time spent [13:49] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [13:59] techrights-sec Without actual content people will move on, learning the hard way that they've [13:59] techrights-sec been played for fools. Larabel built up a large and loyal reader base but [13:59] techrights-sec many have moved on. Others are checking out of habit and maybe in the hope [13:59] techrights-sec that he will reform and go back to real writing and real reviews. [13:59] techrights-sec It's unlikely to happen though. ● Oct 18 [14:01] schestowitz-TR i find some links there, but his added valkue is too meager to be worth linking to [14:01] schestowitz-TR as you note, even the benchmarks are not what they used to be [14:01] schestowitz-TR good benchmarks take a lot of work and there is no incentive to invest in them [14:01] schestowitz-TR if the audience goes beyond some threshold level [14:01] schestowitz-TR *below [14:05] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:05] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:08] schestowitz-TR better to hibernate a little than to lower standards and shitpost with the sole intent of traffic-seeking [14:08] schestowitz-TR around 2013 TR slowed down a bit due to lack of time 'IRL' [14:08] schestowitz-TR that's OK because we didn't tarnish anything, AFAIK [14:08] schestowitz-TR TM is more demanding because of "need of speed" [14:08] schestowitz-TR but that's 2013 (October) onwards [14:08] schestowitz-TR (I'm still looking for TR topics all day long but struggle to find worthy ones... went for a walk this morning) [14:09] techrights-sec ack [14:10] schestowitz-TR techdirt wrote about patents and antitrust yesterday, but those are medical patents (MS, the condition, not compa [14:10] schestowitz-TR ny) [14:10] schestowitz-TR and not even computer-related [14:10] techrights-sec Is there a good way to build upon what they wrote in a manner that expands [14:10] techrights-sec on it and brings it into what TR usually covers? [14:11] schestowitz-TR it is related to what we spoke about last night, re standards and patents [14:11] schestowitz-TR but more loosely than closely [14:11] schestowitz-TR i'll see what comes from EPO today, maybe that can be linked [14:12] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [14:12] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:12] techrights-sec What about the current politican situation regarding ongoing attempts at the EC [14:12] techrights-sec or EU level to destroy the concept of standards by not just allowing but even [14:12] techrights-sec encouraging patents in them? One of the frameworks outright prohibited patents [14:13] *Mio14 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [14:14] schestowitz-TR we wrote a lot about this in 2007 [14:14] schestowitz-TR re samba and "intero" framework [14:14] schestowitz-TR before they said "SEP" [14:14] schestowitz-TR it was "RAND" and similar [14:14] schestowitz-TR lots of Microsoft lobbying [14:15] schestowitz-TR EU = corporate globalism [14:15] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:15] schestowitz-TR EPO is to EU what WIPO is to UN [14:15] techrights-sec "RAND" is still bullshit and still needs to be exterminated. [14:16] schestowitz-TR just another propaganda term [14:16] schestowitz-TR seeting aside entrap/back doors in RNGs [14:16] schestowitz-TR and rand corporation [14:16] schestowitz-TR they added "Fair" [14:16] schestowitz-TR to make the propaganda a little more powerful [14:16] schestowitz-TR sounds like "FRIEND" [14:16] schestowitz-TR "ZRAND" used to be a thiong [14:16] schestowitz-TR nobody names it anymore [14:19] schestowitz-TR [14:18] The Specialized Criminal Court (SCC) and EFF. Does EFF want to continue to ignore EPO corruption while shielding terror sympathisers in Europe? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/10/global-coalition-calls-uk-foreign-secretary-secure-release-salma-al-shehab | Source: EFF [14:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | Global Coalition Calls on UK Foreign Secretary to Secure the Release of Salma al-Shehab | Electronic Frontier Foundation [14:19] techrights-sec ack [14:19] *Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-15t.q6n.039cds.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [14:30] schestowitz-TR eff = endless stuff about women's rights [14:30] schestowitz-TR zero about patents in europe [14:30] schestowitz-TR women's rights are very important [14:30] schestowitz-TR but when I followed EFF decades ago they didn't focus on non-tech issues [14:30] schestowitz-TR now they seem to care about niche political causes [14:30] schestowitz-TR while mostly neglecting (IMHO) urgent issues in domains they specialised in [14:30] schestowitz-TR it's called "mission creep", I think [14:30] schestowitz-TR likewide LF, OSI, SFC [14:30] schestowitz-TR at the start and the core some substance [14:30] schestowitz-TR like GPL enfocement or backing the kernel [14:30] schestowitz-TR than it's openwashing vmware [14:30] schestowitz-TR doctorow had not much to say [14:31] schestowitz-TR and I did not chase again like he asked me [14:31] schestowitz-TR as I got a taste of it the first time around [14:31] schestowitz-TR when shiva targeted me I opened a ticket with EFF [14:31] schestowitz-TR but they never did anything to help bloggers [14:31] schestowitz-TR maybe I should remove that old frond page banner from TR (EFF and bloggers) [14:40] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [14:42] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:43] schestowitz-TR [14:34] UK COVID-19 Vaccination Statistics Partly Fabricated Or? https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/18/uk-vaccination-statistics/ [14:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive UK COVID-19 Vaccination Statistics Partly Fabricated Or? [14:43] schestowitz-TR white lies? [14:44] techrights-sec Hmm. Invidious had autoplay. :( :( [14:45] schestowitz-TR depends on browser [14:45] schestowitz-TR only falkon auto-plays for me [14:47] techrights-sec Is there a transcript Transcripts take seconds or minutes to read, but videos [14:47] techrights-sec require lots of time and proper conditions to even have a chance at following. [14:47] techrights-sec tldr; no comment [14:47] schestowitz-TR yes, I read the video description (very long but concise) before watching it [14:51] schestowitz-TR now that I think about it, I shouls reproduced the description in my blog [14:56] schestowitz-TR done [14:56] schestowitz-TR reproducing the text is cheap, not the videos [14:56] schestowitz-TR his channel is already marked for death [14:56] schestowitz-TR he will be deplatformed one day [14:57] techrights-sec maybe a good idea [14:57] techrights-sec If youtube delete a video or account, is it also gone from invidious too? [14:57] techrights-sec s/If/When/ [14:59] schestowitz-TR I think you misunderstood what invidious is [14:59] schestowitz-TR it's more like alternative UI [14:59] schestowitz-TR without JS and Gulag spying, except the data source [14:59] schestowitz-TR the issue is, when they kill off his channel the scxriprion too will be gone [14:59] schestowitz-TR and it'll be hard to recover any [14:59] schestowitz-TR invidious retrieves that text with the API [14:59] schestowitz-TR no video -> no description, comments... nothing [14:59] schestowitz-TR and he includes the links [14:59] schestowitz-TR rianne is watching it atm [14:59] schestowitz-TR I told her I had been saying the same for a year [14:59] schestowitz-TR and he uses mostly the same data sources [14:59] schestowitz-TR except his audience is vast ● Oct 18 [15:00] techrights-sec oh [15:00] techrights-sec in that case it's 100% dependent on Youtube allowing the channel or video to [15:00] techrights-sec continue to exist there. Has he diversifiedd and mirror his videos elsewhere? [15:05] schestowitz-TR afaik, no [15:05] schestowitz-TR he is a teacher, not an "IT" person [15:05] schestowitz-TR and he uses Microsoft extensively [15:05] schestowitz-TR he chooses MOOX in the video, through other formats do exist [15:05] schestowitz-TR if you search his name in gulagtube you will see ad hom and hack jobs [15:05] schestowitz-TR if they cannot find a way to deplatform thousands of videos (many lectures since 2007) [15:05] schestowitz-TR they try to offer reasons to avoid the messenger [15:05] schestowitz-TR reminds me of asssange [15:05] schestowitz-TR wikipedia is still online [15:05] schestowitz-TR but the editor is behind bars and "discredited" [15:05] schestowitz-TR something something "Russia" bad [15:05] schestowitz-TR he is an open access person, his phd relates to that [15:05] schestowitz-TR teaching [15:05] schestowitz-TR I remember they said in switerland only 60% got covid vaccines [15:06] schestowitz-TR maybe switzerland was not "hesistent" but just more honest [15:06] schestowitz-TR no herd mindset like some countries [15:06] schestowitz-TR where people were treated like criminals if they walked away from the herd [15:06] schestowitz-TR a warning sign was, to me, when they said 110k nhs workers turned it down [15:06] schestowitz-TR a lot more than you would expect based on the overall picture [15:06] schestowitz-TR but the goal was to shame the nhs [15:06] schestowitz-TR s/wikipedia/wikileaks/ [15:06] techrights-sec ack [15:06] techrights-sec ack [15:06] techrights-sec Yes, several interests do anything to put the NHS in a bad light, if they [15:06] techrights-sec are unable to actively harm it. [15:11] schestowitz-TR if AZ is paid in bulk based on # of doses and patent licences based on "unixs" [15:11] schestowitz-TR *units" [15:11] schestowitz-TR then what we see here might be criminal [15:11] schestowitz-TR like gulf states buying Microsoft for depats that don't even have computers! [15:11] schestowitz-TR a friend of mine who's a cop got almost discarded doses in march 2021 [15:11] schestowitz-TR there were no takers [15:11] schestowitz-TR and so they invited them in [15:11] schestowitz-TR so they don't think them away [15:11] schestowitz-TR almost all of them (young peolle) got sick [15:11] schestowitz-TR they had to shut the police station [15:11] schestowitz-TR they administered it in the stadium across the road from us [15:11] schestowitz-TR I did see reports shaming the public for "wastes" doses [15:11] schestowitz-TR and outrage over not sending them abroad [15:11] schestowitz-TR AZ overcharging us [15:11] schestowitz-TR AZ with a shareholder who likes to fly Lolita Express ;/ [15:11] schestowitz-TR and whom you cannot name in twitter anymore [15:11] schestowitz-TR even if you talk about patents and graft [15:19] techrights-sec AZ and the others are using that to distract from having basically stolen [15:19] techrights-sec public research and sold it under misappropriated patents. [15:22] schestowitz-TR spoke to rianne about it just now [15:22] schestowitz-TR I reckon antivaxxer in the UK are a fringe group of maybe 1% [15:22] schestowitz-TR maybe 10% in US based on intituton [15:22] schestowitz-TR not just religious nuts [15:22] schestowitz-TR but I can imagine why many were sceptical [15:22] schestowitz-TR like the doctors of my friends who said it was harming the knees [15:22] schestowitz-TR and indeed I see anecdtal consistency [15:22] schestowitz-TR as I lack topics for TR maybe I'll take a look at the links and double/sanity-check [15:22] schestowitz-TR if ONS gave us false numbers, it's a blunder [15:22] schestowitz-TR because then people can ask, what else did they deceive on? [15:22] schestowitz-TR it's the boy who cried wolf [15:22] schestowitz-TR heck, maybe even mortality data has omissions [15:22] schestowitz-TR it did in the past have major backlogs [15:22] schestowitz-TR and they did not retroactively correct publications [15:22] schestowitz-TR if we cannot trust anything from ONS, it's a crisis of confidence [15:22] schestowitz-TR like CDC hiding older data [15:22] schestowitz-TR at least CDC did not fabricate [15:22] schestowitz-TR only omit for optics [15:23] techrights-sec ack [15:23] techrights-sec Some of that is to desensitize people and make them ignore the situation [15:24] *Mio14 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [15:24] *Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-3fi.jlq.b7sqn6.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [15:43] schestowitz-TR I've decided to try to validate mortality totals using other sources [15:43] schestowitz-TR I made copies (uploads too) of excess deaths reports [15:43] schestowitz-TR we'll see if the numbers match and , if not, why not... [15:43] schestowitz-TR I've decided to try to validate mortality totals using other sources [15:43] schestowitz-TR I made copies (uploads too) of excess deaths reports [15:43] schestowitz-TR we'll see if the numbers match and , if not, why not... [15:55] techrights-sec ack [15:57] schestowitz-TR ok, the numbers do match, but the reports on mortality cite "ONS" and so I'm basically looking at the same [15:57] schestowitz-TR source from two angles [15:57] schestowitz-TR that is HSA cicing ONS [15:57] schestowitz-TR *citing [15:57] techrights-sec ack ● Oct 18 [16:10] schestowitz-TR [16:10] 4 Months Later, Office for National Statistics (ONS) Data on England and Wales Deaths Remains Uncorrected https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/18/uk-ons-data-deficit/ [16:10] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive 4 Months Later, Office for National Statistics (ONS) Data on England and Wales Deaths Remains Uncorrected [16:32] *web-94 (web-94@freenode-3v6mdq.biq5.0k7g.7q9g0n.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [16:38] schestowitz-TR [16:38] The Conspicuous Table of England COVID-19 Vaccination Rates (NIMS) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/18/nims-vaccination-data/ [16:38] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive The Conspicuous Table of England COVID-19 Vaccination Rates (NIMS) ● Oct 18 [17:07] techrights-sec "Are they measuring the same thing?" a text summary of the screen shots might [17:07] techrights-sec be in order. [17:23] schestowitz-TR [17:23] CDC Data: Mortality Rates in the United States by Age Groups (2017-2020) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/18/cdc-deaths-by-age-groups/ [17:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive CDC Data: Mortality Rates in the United States by Age Groups (2017-2020) ● Oct 18 [18:42] *starstreak has quit (Quit: Leaving) [18:47] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [18:47] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Oct 18 [19:04] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [19:04] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:10] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:57] *web-94 has quit (Connection closed) ● Oct 18 [21:08] *Mio14 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [21:10] *Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-gk6.q6n.039cds.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [21:18] schestowitz As part of its goal to build a provably secure platform that's optimized for embedded devices that run ML applications, Google has open sourced several components of its KataOS secure operating system. [21:18] schestowitz Additionally, Google is building a reference implementation for KataOS called Sparrow, which combines KataOS with a secured hardware platform. [21:18] schestowitz The current GitHub release includes core KataOS pieces, including the frameworks we use for Rust (such as the sel4-sys crate, which provides seL4 syscall APIs), an alternate rootserver written in Rust (needed for dynamic system-wide memory management), and the kernel modifications to seL4 that can reclaim the memory used by the rootserver. [21:18] schestowitz https://www.fosslife.org/google-open-sources-sparrow-and-kataos-components [21:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fosslife.org | Google Open Sources Sparrow and KataOS Components [21:32] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@fdnb6jwcv4ndi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [21:39] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:42] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@fdnb6jwcv4ndi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 18 [22:45] *parsifal has quit (Quit: Leaving)