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| Techrights-sec | The script export-stats.sh is failing to merge these two URLs: | Nov 18 07:27 |
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| Techrights-sec | Requests Page | Nov 18 07:27 |
| Techrights-sec | [1] 295 gemini://gemini.techrights.org/ | Nov 18 07:27 |
| Techrights-sec | ... | Nov 18 07:27 |
| Techrights-sec | [8] 32 / | Nov 18 07:27 |
| Techrights-sec | ... | Nov 18 07:27 |
| Techrights-sec | I can debug it but the account would need temporary membership in the group adm. | Nov 18 07:27 |
| Techrights-sec | Or a copy of /var/log/syslog.1 somewhere. | Nov 18 07:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | see your homedir for a copy of the log | Nov 18 07:35 |
| Techrights-sec | dead link : https://news.mit.edu/2018/mit-looking-back-project-athena ... wrong paste | Nov 18 07:35 |
| Techrights-sec | dead link: http://www.heise-online.co.uk/features/SCO-vs-Linux-mixed-reactions-to-Novell-Unix-copyright-verdict--/11 | Nov 18 07:35 |
| Techrights-sec | 0819 | Nov 18 07:35 |
| -altlink_623/#boycottnovell-📣 Cloudflare: mit.edu | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.mit.edu/2018/mit-looking-back-project-athena | Nov 18 07:35 | |
| Techrights-sec | Heise Online seems to have been dturned off quietly | Nov 18 07:35 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://news.mit.edu/2018/mit-looking-back-project-athena ) | Nov 18 07:35 | |
| Techrights-sec | The rot is intentional. In the old days the old articles were kept by libraries | Nov 18 07:35 |
| Techrights-sec | and archives... | Nov 18 07:35 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.heise.de | heise online - IT-News, Nachrichten und Hintergründe | Nov 18 07:35 | |
| schestowitz-TR | I knew it was a broken link, and this was part of the point, showing history rots away2~ | Nov 18 07:35 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Nov 18 07:40 |
| Techrights-sec | got the log, will look shortly | Nov 18 07:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | OT but still noteworthy: at the moment there is still no plan to go back to the gym, and in fact I'm not even sure when I'll bother flying seeing all the EXTRA hassle it now entails | Nov 18 07:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | good for techrights, maybe less for my health, but I still exercise at home | Nov 18 07:42 |
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| Techrights-sec | Movement every hour is important, not just standing. Standing and such | Nov 18 07:58 |
| Techrights-sec | must be done more frequently. | Nov 18 07:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | going to get a cup of choc/tea/coffee/lemon water, sometimes a little stretching while waiting for water to boil | Nov 18 07:58 |
| Techrights-sec | yep | Nov 18 07:59 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.golem.de/news/verschluesselung-bsi-verschickt-privaten-pgp-schluessel-2111-161073.html | Nov 18 08:13 |
| Techrights-sec | LUT is infected with Vista10 | Nov 18 08:13 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.golem.de | Golem.de: IT-News für Profis | Nov 18 08:13 | |
| schestowitz-TR | sometimes I think or mostly 'feel' -- and it's not based on actual evidence -- that interests high up in states, military and high society would do as little as is necessary to keep adoption of free systems at bay, or limited only to infra where security actually serves them, not us | Nov 18 08:15 |
| Techrights-sec | yes, I would say that has been the case since the mid 1990s. | Nov 18 08:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | many parallels wrt antiwar movement | Nov 18 08:16 |
| Techrights-sec | They want all | Nov 18 08:17 |
| Techrights-sec | systems to be insecure so they can /easily/ go in and out of them, yet complain | Nov 18 08:17 |
| Techrights-sec | that others do the same. | Nov 18 08:17 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes, anti war groups are also often infiltrated and undermined. | Nov 18 08:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | we need to outwit them. They have a go at Pocock again. | Nov 18 08:17 |
| Techrights-sec | Debian has been thoroughly compromised. Shuttleworth unintentionally | Nov 18 08:20 |
| Techrights-sec | weakened it by drawing of a lot of talent for Ubuntu. Many projects | Nov 18 08:20 |
| Techrights-sec | depend on Debian so hurting it has a high return on investment. Unfortunately | Nov 18 08:20 |
| Techrights-sec | since Canonical is a private company, it was much easier to infiltrate and | Nov 18 08:20 |
| Techrights-sec | subvert. The spinmeister, Bacon, was part of that. Pocock is attacked | Nov 18 08:20 |
| Techrights-sec | because he is not part of the subversion. | Nov 18 08:20 |
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| Techrights-sec | However, M$ has been undermining the schools at university level for a long time | Nov 18 08:22 |
| Techrights-sec | It weeds out anyone with potential to lead because M$ products produce sheep. | Nov 18 08:22 |
| Techrights-sec | And illogical thought. One cannot survive in an M$ environment without | Nov 18 08:25 |
| Techrights-sec | some kind of dysfunctional flow of thought. So those that are capable get | Nov 18 08:25 |
| Techrights-sec | weeded out, mostly. Those capable that remain get damaged. The rest were | Nov 18 08:25 |
| Techrights-sec | never any good to begin with but are then "certified" and "accredited" to | Nov 18 08:25 |
| Techrights-sec | serve in bootstrapping a community of fraud. See all the M$ "experts" ad | Nov 18 08:25 |
| Techrights-sec | and "security" consultants as examples of that fraud. However there are starting | Nov 18 08:25 |
| Techrights-sec | to be enough that they boost each other. | Nov 18 08:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | we need to coordinate the response to these issues, as I think we have something many sites and groups lack,including some inside connections in specific institutions | Nov 18 08:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | apropos, mainstream dutch media is having a go at EPO again (issues were covered before), but this isn't in English, so we may have to wait | Nov 18 08:28 |
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| Techrights-sec | Dutch is not too difficult if one can read German. Though obviously | Nov 18 08:49 |
| Techrights-sec | nueances will be lost. It is good that they have noticed the EPO. I hope | Nov 18 08:49 |
| Techrights-sec | that German sites notice too since that is close to home. | Nov 18 08:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | if they turn a blind eye for financial reasons, then they give us a 'monopoly' over accurate information | Nov 18 08:50 |
| Techrights-sec | Would a German translation of TR be either feasible or desireable for that? | Nov 18 08:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | no, it would not matter | Nov 18 08:56 |
| psydruid | where is the EPO mentioned in Dutch news? | Nov 18 09:30 |
| schestowitz | psydruid: television | Nov 18 09:33 |
| schestowitz | I did not see the program | Nov 18 09:33 |
| psydruid | Nieuwslicht? | Nov 18 09:33 |
| schestowitz | cannot remember | Nov 18 09:33 |
| schestowitz | Nieu something... | Nov 18 09:34 |
| psydruid | Nieuwsuur | Nov 18 09:34 |
| psydruid | News hour | Nov 18 09:34 |
| schestowitz | https://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2021/20211109.html | Nov 18 09:36 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.epo.org | EPO - RTL Nieuws programme | Nov 18 09:36 | |
| schestowitz | oh, RTL | Nov 18 09:36 |
| schestowitz | lux I guesss | Nov 18 09:36 |
| psydruid | https://www.rtlxl.nl/programma/rtl-nieuws/b377e36e-a17c-4a4a-b7cd-624214ab5082 | Nov 18 09:44 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.rtlxl.nl | RTL XL - RTL Nieuws • RTL Nieuws - 19:30 uur | Nov 18 09:44 | |
| psydruid | I would have to log in or something | Nov 18 09:44 |
| schestowitz | is that the one? | Nov 18 10:14 |
| schestowitz | "Dagelijks het laatste nieuws uit binnen- en buitenland. Voor nog meer nieuws kunt u ook gebruikmaken van onze mobiele apps." | Nov 18 10:14 |
| schestowitz | I asked around | Nov 18 10:14 |
| schestowitz | and am waiting for people who can say more | Nov 18 10:14 |
| schestowitz | the EPO is good at censoring critical press coverage | Nov 18 10:14 |
| psydruid | evening broadcast from the 8th of November | Nov 18 10:20 |
| psydruid | it could have been mentioned in the earlier bulletins too | Nov 18 10:20 |
| psydruid | it must have been a really short item because I can't find it skipping through the broadcast minute by minute | Nov 18 10:46 |
| schestowitz | maybe I can find it somehow | Nov 18 11:13 |
| schestowitz | if someone saved it | Nov 18 11:13 |
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| schestowitz | psydruid: apropos | Nov 18 12:05 |
| schestowitz | from Daily Links: | Nov 18 12:05 |
| schestowitz | "This year Denmark has been pipped to the post by the Netherlands in first place and Austria in second." | Nov 18 12:05 |
| schestowitz | https://cphpost.dk/?p=129527 | Nov 18 12:05 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-cphpost.dk | Danes the third best non-Anglophone speakers of English in the world - The Post | Nov 18 12:05 | |
| psydruid | Dutch is literally somewhere in between English and German and we generally learn both language in school | Nov 18 12:08 |
| psydruid | this list also makes clear that there is a cultural difference between Austria and Germany, even though they have the same official language | Nov 18 12:12 |
| psydruid | and Portugal is the only country with an official Romance language in the top 10 | Nov 18 12:13 |
| psydruid | maybe because it is small and dependent on trade like the Netherlands is | Nov 18 12:13 |
| schestowitz | I see | Nov 18 12:16 |
| schestowitz | Dutch have American accent typically | Nov 18 12:16 |
| schestowitz | unlike Germans | Nov 18 12:16 |
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| psydruid | I was told by my managers that they couldn't really hear where I'm from, because I sound pretty neutral in whatever language I speak | Nov 18 12:28 |
| psydruid | I think we just get exposed more to English in daily life, just like people in Nordic countries | Nov 18 12:29 |
| schestowitz | in larger countries you get a lot of stuff domestically | Nov 18 12:32 |
| schestowitz | so lesser need to communicate with outsiders? | Nov 18 12:32 |
| psydruid | I think so | Nov 18 12:39 |
| psydruid | I think foreign language education is one of the best parts of education in this country | Nov 18 12:44 |
| psydruid | https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/voortgezet-onderwijs/vraag-en-antwoord/vreemde-talen-onderbouw-voortgezet-onderwijs | Nov 18 12:44 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.rijksoverheid.nl | Welke vreemde talen krijg ik in de onderbouw van het voortgezet onderwijs? | Rijksoverheid.nl | Nov 18 12:44 | |
| psydruid | you get taught English, French and German and there is nowadays also a choice to replace one of the latter two with Spanish, Italian, Russian, Arabic, Turkish or Chinese | Nov 18 12:45 |
| psydruid | and this is only secondary education, so pre-university | Nov 18 12:46 |
| psydruid | and Latin and Ancient Greek in what they call gymnasium here, something like grammar school | Nov 18 12:48 |
| Techrights-sec | I am quite sure that the main reason for the existence of Vista11 is to | Nov 18 13:04 |
| Techrights-sec | push TPM chips into all consumer notebooks and desktops. That will | Nov 18 13:04 |
| Techrights-sec | then get daisychained to UEFI in Vista12. | Nov 18 13:04 |
| Techrights-sec | Also, I've asked around here a little and there has been zero coverage | Nov 18 13:04 |
| Techrights-sec | of "chat control" or any other policy level changes. | Nov 18 13:04 |
| schestowitz | psydruid: interesting.. | Nov 18 13:05 |
| schestowitz | Techrights-sec: so a bit like EPO scandals. The unspeakable. On the UPSIDE, I see lots of mentions of vaccine patents being an issue now, in sites I follow anyway | Nov 18 13:06 |
| psydruid | quite a few people are also quite aware of what is happening and threatening to leave for GNU/Linux or actually leaving | Nov 18 13:08 |
| psydruid | that was also apparent in the post on Thurott's site that DaemonFC linked to | Nov 18 13:09 |
| schestowitz | yes, I saw that | Nov 18 13:10 |
| schestowitz | UEFI 'secure' boot will give them a harder time | Nov 18 13:10 |
| schestowitz | and i think that only Microsoft wants to discourage this | Nov 18 13:10 |
| schestowitz | all those 'antivirus' companies, NSA, DoD at large... | Nov 18 13:11 |
| schestowitz | but I cannot "prove" it.. | Nov 18 13:11 |
| schestowitz | maybe common sense | Nov 18 13:11 |
| psydruid | yes | Nov 18 13:22 |
| psydruid | I've just got Doom running on my Orange Pi | Nov 18 13:22 |
| psydruid | after installing some collection on WINE on another laptop and transferring that to the Orange Pi's SSD | Nov 18 13:23 |
| psydruid | Microsoft (and Intel) are going to be experiencing a death by a thousand cuts | Nov 18 13:24 |
| psydruid | Microsoft isn't going to survive the transition to ARM and RISC-V | Nov 18 13:24 |
| psydruid | and the little market share it will still have is going to be eroded the same way it is on x86 | Nov 18 13:24 |
| psydruid | it's just another branch of the battle to bring games to Linux + OpenGL/Vulkan | Nov 18 13:25 |
| psydruid | but gaming is often the only reason why people still run Vista at home | Nov 18 13:25 |
| schestowitz | i will record a video re this | Nov 18 13:29 |
| schestowitz | after workout | Nov 18 13:29 |
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| psydruid | Doom 2 doesn't run because OpenGL 3.0 isn't supported, but that's a relatively minor issue | Nov 18 13:47 |
| schestowitz | done :-) | Nov 18 13:56 |
| schestowitz | I used external cam | Nov 18 13:56 |
| schestowitz | psydruid: you can fall back onto opengl2.x | Nov 18 13:56 |
| schestowitz | usually 2.1 | Nov 18 13:57 |
| psydruid | I think Gzdoom has a hard requirement on OpenGL 3.0 | Nov 18 14:02 |
| psydruid | and Lzdoom doesn't work | Nov 18 14:02 |
| psydruid | but I can play Doom 1 at least | Nov 18 14:03 |
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| Techrights-sec | blog.torproject.org is not using valid HTML | Nov 18 15:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | probably maintained by some mac users with the latest iphone | Nov 18 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | sipping latte somewhere in Bay Area | Nov 18 15:57 |
| Techrights-sec | rss-since-scraper.pl needed tweaking to compensate for their broken page | Nov 18 16:00 |
| Techrights-sec | pushed to Git | Nov 18 16:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | can do tor relays, cannot do www. Sounds like an issue... | Nov 18 16:01 |
| Techrights-sec | There's been turnover in staff | Nov 18 16:02 |
| Techrights-sec | I have not had time to catch up with this, which is 2 hours: | Nov 18 16:02 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNhIjtXuVzk&t=115s | Nov 18 16:02 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.youtube.com | State of the Onion 2021 - YouTube | Nov 18 16:02 | |
| schestowitz-TR | have they yet 'modernised' by moving to shithub like letsencrypt (LF ) did, both for the web site and back end code? | Nov 18 16:03 |
| Techrights-sec | https://validator.w3.org/nu/?doc=https%3A%2F%2Fblog.torproject.org%2Fnew-release-tor-browser-1101%2F | Nov 18 16:04 |
| -altlink_89f/#boycottnovell-📣 Cloudflare: w3.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://validator.w3.org/nu/?doc=https%3A%2F%2Fblog.torproject.org%2Fnew-release-tor-browser-1101%2F | Nov 18 16:04 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-validator.w3.org | Showing results for https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-1101/ - Nu Html Checker | Nov 18 16:04 | |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe US Navy did not like Tor being leveraged by Wikileaks and "other criminals", so something needed to be done to 'reform' this project | Nov 18 16:04 |
| Techrights-sec | More compliant and less competant | Nov 18 16:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | less revolutionary... except in "rogue countries"... the ones that need to be undermine. All in the name of "protecting minorities" or something.. | Nov 18 16:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | *undermined | Nov 18 16:06 |
| Techrights-sec | More compliant and less competant informants / moles? | Nov 18 16:07 |
| Techrights-sec | "Helping" the project to death. | Nov 18 16:07 |
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| Techrights-sec | CoC | Nov 18 17:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | WHO leeeet the CoC out? | Nov 18 17:20 |
| Techrights-sec | CoC'onuts | Nov 18 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was going to say something about Tor, which I forgot, but they laid off tons of staff and it may help to know who's who among those sacked and those who are left. The Heads distro (no systemd) has not had releases in years | Nov 18 17:23 |
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| Techrights-sec | I noticed that Heads was already defunct | Nov 18 17:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | I wondered if the main demoralising force was lack of users, hardship removing systemd, or lack of faith in Tor Project | Nov 18 17:47 |
| Techrights-sec | Well there are nasty, dishonest whisper campaigns against it in many countries. | Nov 18 17:55 |
| Techrights-sec | TV, Radio, and various "IT" consultants parrot the false assertion that | Nov 18 17:55 |
| Techrights-sec | it is only "darknet" and that is therefore only illegal and has no legal let | Nov 18 17:55 |
| Techrights-sec | alone legitimate uses. The Tor Project does have outreach but it's hard | Nov 18 17:55 |
| Techrights-sec | to push effectively against the volume of microsofters. | Nov 18 17:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have not used tor since 2013 or 2014 | Nov 18 17:56 |
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| Techrights-sec | It is recommended to use it periodically anyway so that those that actually ned | Nov 18 18:31 |
| Techrights-sec | it have a little noise to shelter in. The network apparently has a lot of | Nov 18 18:31 |
| Techrights-sec | capacity these days. Many of the US sites which block the EU and UK are | Nov 18 18:31 |
| Techrights-sec | still availabe via Tor, though not all. | Nov 18 18:31 |
| Techrights-sec | $ sudo apt install torbrowser-launcher | Nov 18 18:31 |
| Techrights-sec | $ torbrowser-launcher | Nov 18 18:31 |
| Techrights-sec | It's also good to have a browser which is not Chromium based. | Nov 18 18:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | for the time being rianne and I use librewolf, but I use falkon the most | Nov 18 18:36 |
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| schestowitz-TR | https://nitter.eu/WukinaJ/status/1461410815517544451#m | Nov 18 20:10 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.eu | Liščí bůh 🦊🐏č.8 (@WukinaJ): "Zabezpečení: Straight Line Spekulace, TPM, Drupal a další | Tuxové stroje http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158104" | nitter | Nov 18 20:10 | |
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