●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, April 19, 2022 ●● ● Apr 19 [01:45] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [01:56] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [01:57] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@wkhuexd2esqpc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 19 [02:19] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [02:54] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [02:54] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 19 [04:01] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [04:01] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [04:32] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Apr 19 [06:07] schestowitz-TR The reason the ytalk connection was dropped, my machine was rebooted [06:07] schestowitz-TR I studied the logs, after I had taken the opportunity to do a full system update [06:07] schestowitz-TR and could not see anything connection the ongoing drive warnings [06:07] schestowitz-TR to the incident [06:07] Techrights-sec no worries, it should have reconnected automatically form my [06:07] Techrights-sec end though [06:07] Techrights-sec from my end though [06:08] Techrights-sec I have a loop going here. [06:10] schestowitz-TR so it turns out alex jones, like andrew lee, is also living the us lifestyle [06:10] schestowitz-TR 50k in assets, then just borrow... 1 million to 10 million [06:10] schestowitz-TR and they say this is the world's most potent economt [06:10] schestowitz-TR (never mind motivation o bury the debt in ch11) [06:10] Techrights-sec yep goog riddance to him though I suppose his backers won;t let his be the end of him and his bullshit [06:10] Techrights-sec yep another "successful bankruptcy" to show at business schools as a model [06:12] schestowitz-TR theory: the national deficit, granting about 20 trillion in public debt is about a decade or a little more [06:12] schestowitz-TR covers up for the fakeness of the private sector [06:12] schestowitz-TR which is in the red [06:16] Techrights-sec it's hard to explain but the money is not the global currency but the debt [06:16] Techrights-sec itself, that also gives more leverage over the borrower [06:16] Techrights-sec yes and it does help hide the fakeness of the private sector [06:16] Techrights-sec an additional problem is that Enron-style accounting is now allowed and [06:16] Techrights-sec encouraged so it is almost impossible to find out what the bottome line is. [06:17] Techrights-sec Generally that takes an audit and business schools have prepared scammers [06:17] Techrights-sec for that by teaching everyone how to keep two separate sets of books, only [06:17] Techrights-sec one of which is for the government. The big Enterprise Resource Planning [06:17] Techrights-sec packages don't let people keep track of that for their business anyway. [06:17] Techrights-sec It has become a shell game. [06:17] Techrights-sec Yes, in otherwords they are intentionally obfuscating their dire situation [06:17] schestowitz-TR See, I am not so stupid but I could never make sense of the financial statement of a 10-person (little more) company [06:17] schestowitz-TR where I have been for over 10 years [06:17] schestowitz-TR my BS meter off the chart, I still needed help from better sniffers [06:22] schestowitz-TR don't mean to sound cocky, but it seems a good majority of companies are like that [06:22] schestowitz-TR some are more upfront about it [06:22] schestowitz-TR apparently rianne and I, as we do have actual savings and no debt/liabilities, are [06:22] schestowitz-TR a lot better off than a god majority of households [06:22] schestowitz-TR two days ago I saved about 30 pounds on food and did exercise at the same time (went to 7 shops+1 at [06:22] schestowitz-TR the end, a second visit) [06:22] schestowitz-TR not many people in those [06:22] schestowitz-TR high inflation rates penalise not only savers, they hurt everybody [06:23] Techrights-sec perhaps, but as mentioned it is now established practice to cook the books [06:23] Techrights-sec and to use accoubnting methods which facillitate that [06:23] Techrights-sec yes that is a goal ,but the low interest rates also discourage savings, [06:23] Techrights-sec they try to push everyone to put their money into speculation instead. [06:23] Techrights-sec Basically they wish people to gamble what little they might have put away [06:25] schestowitz-TR yes, in IRC I've said this repeatedly over the past year [06:25] schestowitz-TR Wall Street now eats the middle class (what's left of it) [06:25] schestowitz-TR by putting more pressure on remaining savers to "feed the machine" [06:25] schestowitz-TR this will end like in 2007-8 [06:25] Techrights-sec ... what's left of the middle class is rapidly vanishing, pushed down [06:25] Techrights-sec into poverty [06:28] schestowitz-TR 1) the standards of "poverty" are adjusted [06:28] schestowitz-TR 2) "full employment" redefined [06:28] schestowitz-TR 3) more hours, more working people per household [06:28] schestowitz-TR 4) reducation in compensation, pension age etc. [06:28] schestowitz-TR "if you can't make it good, make it look like you need Epstein for "rich people"..." [06:28] schestowitz-TR Because that's all he is renowned for, nothing else.... [06:29] Techrights-sec the definition of poverty is bent also to exclude more impoverished people [06:29] Techrights-sec from the category, so effectively much of the lower end of what had been [06:29] Techrights-sec middle class is in practice poor and feeling it [06:29] Techrights-sec basically [06:30] schestowitz-TR it is even worse when you factor in much of the "lifestyle" being fed by loans [06:30] schestowitz-TR our old filmmaking friend contemplated suicide over it 15 years ago [06:31] *Seaduck| has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb2+b1 - https://znc.in) [06:31] *Seaduck- (~seaduck@ys9kag65kxsiu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:32] Techrights-sec that's too bad; [06:32] Techrights-sec I think he's doing much better now, bites from pinnepeds aside [06:32] Techrights-sec ^pinniped [06:32] schestowitz-TR it's the financial equiv of anabolic steroids [06:32] schestowitz-TR make me look big now [06:32] schestowitz-TR we'll worry about all "that bad stuff" later on [06:32] Techrights-sec yep, to a certain extent [06:40] schestowitz-TR with soma and all that, they make yet more "susccess stories" [06:40] schestowitz-TR more billionaires like sackler family with purdue [06:40] schestowitz-TR so there's something to celebrate after all! [06:40] schestowitz-TR in 'ol england' they had pubs and booze to compel the hard-working class to keep [06:40] schestowitz-TR working harder [06:40] schestowitz-TR but the drugs are no longer limited to liquid form [06:40] schestowitz-TR the last effect is also longer [06:40] schestowitz-TR if the drinking shortens the life, no pension, work till death [06:40] schestowitz-TR a sort of lifespan or longevity 'eugenics' [06:42] Techrights-sec another thing the us does is the culture, especialy through business, puts [06:42] Techrights-sec nearly everybody in a dire situation where the normal reaction is stress [06:42] Techrights-sec if not downright depression then instead of fixing the problem or moving the [06:42] Techrights-sec people to better jobs (on the false assumption that any exist) they sell [06:42] Techrights-sec expensive mindaltering medication to force a happy or at least less depressed [06:42] Techrights-sec feeling into their heads -- for an additional fee [06:42] Techrights-sec https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db377.htm [06:42] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cdc.gov | Products - Data Briefs - Number 377 - September 2020 [06:42] Techrights-sec and that's the /old/ data, not including recent years [06:42] Techrights-sec https://pharmaceutical-journal.com/article/news/antidepressant-prescribing-up-6-since-2019 [06:42] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pharmaceutical-journal.com | Antidepressant prescribing up 6% in last three months of 2020 - The Pharmaceutical Journal [06:42] Techrights-sec (UK( [06:42] Techrights-sec https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020/09/04/Antidepressant-use-rising-in-US-mostly-in-women-CDC-says/7341599224503/ [06:42] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Antidepressant use rising in U.S., mostly in women, CDC says - UPI.com [06:42] Techrights-sec on average women are more in tune with surroundings and environment [06:42] Techrights-sec pint-a-day [06:42] Techrights-sec more importantly larger business can charge more for them and they [06:42] Techrights-sec are able to exclude smaller businesses from participation [06:42] Techrights-sec old: [06:42] Techrights-sec https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/astounding-increase-in-antidepressant-use-by-americans-201110203624 [06:42] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.health.harvard.edu | Astounding increase in antidepressant use by Americans - Harvard Health [06:42] Techrights-sec chinese fentanyl or taliban heroin shortens it more and faster [06:42] Techrights-sec it also removes people from politics, like Pince or Tom Petty, more conveniently than what had to be done with John Lennon [06:55] Techrights-sec yes in pratcie there is a eugneics programme against those that are honest [06:55] Techrights-sec hard working , smart, or a combination there of. [06:55] Techrights-sec Look for example at the characteristics selected for in the US military and [06:55] Techrights-sec then the long term darwinian fitness effect their time in the service has [06:55] Techrights-sec it's even bad for the officers, not just the enlisted [06:55] Techrights-sec patriotism overlaps with a kind of altruism, so that too is being bred out [06:55] Techrights-sec china is also doing a heavy eugenics programme against its citizens with [06:55] Techrights-sec the social credit score; they look to be trying to breed obedience and [06:55] Techrights-sec unquestioningness into the population or at least remove independence and [06:56] Techrights-sec questioning from the gene pool [06:56] Techrights-sec Europe is doing quite badly too. [06:57] schestowitz-TR I have checked the film archive of our friend [06:57] schestowitz-TR it's still there fully intact (on the surface of it) [06:57] schestowitz-TR in the Internet Archive ● Apr 19 [07:01] *Seaduck- has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:04] *Seaduck- (~seaduck@ys9kag65kxsiu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:16] schestowitz-TR "At the Chevrolet dealer to get the Buick fixed, I noticed that nobody was in there to buy a car." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022 [07:16] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-baronhk.wordpress.com | 2022 BaronHK's Rants [07:17] schestowitz-TR /04/19/at-the-chevrolet-dealer-to-get-the-buick-fixed-i-noticed-that-nobody-was-in-there-to-buy-a-car/\ [07:17] Techrights-sec yep the "luxury" cars are real lemons since all repairs *must* take place [07:17] Techrights-sec at the dealer so that too becomes a revenue stream [07:18] schestowitz-TR https://www.projectcensored.org/in-push-for-profits-pfizer-pre-empting-national-governments-powers/ [07:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/in-push-for-profits-pfizer-pre-empting-national-governments-powers/ ) [07:21] Techrights-sec ack [07:21] Techrights-sec and the other vaccine lines seem to have been starved of funding even [07:21] Techrights-sec though they looked very promising [07:21] Techrights-sec on another topic, /tmp/techrights-monitor-tr.py has the updated monitoring [07:21] Techrights-sec script here; it's not set up for more than one site at a time but has a lot [07:21] Techrights-sec of bells and whistles which I find useful [07:21] Techrights-sec at around 03:40 UTC each day there is a bit of a slowdown but not long enough [07:21] Techrights-sec to trigger a full alarm [07:21] Techrights-sec yes I remember, it's just that even with ionice and nice in use the site [07:21] Techrights-sec slows down enough to notice [07:22] schestowitz-TR that's the backup time, with wordpress being the biggest toll [07:22] schestowitz-TR that used to result in much longer period of unavailability [07:22] schestowitz-TR when that machine was about 8 cores [07:22] schestowitz-TR maybe the db locks up until the dump is complete and httpd keeps connections to it on hold [07:22] schestowitz-TR i forgot how that works, we've not had to worry much since the server move [07:23] Techrights-sec that could be it though I don't know enough about the db to say either way [07:23] Techrights-sec it has to lock the tables in some way for a period of time in order to [07:23] Techrights-sec have a coherent dump [07:25] schestowitz-TR this technical approach may sound obscene until you realise the size of the DB when not compressed [07:25] schestowitz-TR for tuxmachines the 170k nodes being dump also leads to a sort of 'hang', but it lasts under a minute [07:25] schestowitz-TR to tuxmachines visitors it's like "the site is a bit slow" and then it comes back OK with a page [07:25] Techrights-sec yes it is huge [07:25] Techrights-sec TR is as far as I know an unusually large wordpress instance [07:25] Techrights-sec yes the slowdown is short nowadays, that is quite good [07:27] schestowitz-TR I don't have to speculate how much hosting on such hardware costs "in the market", per anum [07:27] schestowitz-TR *annum [07:28] Techrights-sec It is quite a generous contribution [07:50] schestowitz-TR https://www.projectcensored.org/one-third-of-child-care-workers-in-us-going-hungry-despite-labor-shortage/ [07:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/one-third-of-child-care-workers-in-us-going-hungry-despite-labor-shortage/ ) [07:51] Techrights-sec the dedicated work ethic is being bred out [07:51] Techrights-sec as people starve to death while doing important/essential jobs [07:51] Techrights-sec That study was from 2019, the situatioon is most likely far worse from [07:51] Techrights-sec 2020 and 2021 [07:54] schestowitz-TR i could sound like an old cliche, but... [07:54] schestowitz-TR automation was supposed to help people work less [07:54] schestowitz-TR let the invention take care of much of the rest [07:54] schestowitz-TR sweden did, at one point, experiement with workhours reduction [07:54] schestowitz-TR maybe that was there to stay [07:54] schestowitz-TR switzerland (rich) dabbled in ubi [07:54] schestowitz-TR for some corporate/ruling class these programmes are undesirable [07:54] schestowitz-TR in weaker democracies these can never materialise [07:54] schestowitz-TR let alone get tested [07:54] schestowitz-TR one alternative does exist [07:54] schestowitz-TR reject the system [07:54] schestowitz-TR work at the margins of it [07:54] schestowitz-TR and do not obey [07:58] Techrights-sec kind of, but the societal pressure to work oneself deep into debt is [07:58] Techrights-sec tremendous and a matter of knowledge, given that the educational system [07:58] Techrights-sec was neutralied in the US during the Reagan administration the knoweldge [07:58] Techrights-sec has been gone for a while [07:58] schestowitz-TR I am miffed only by the term "work deep into debt" [07:58] schestowitz-TR as it is the consumption (of kids) that cause the debt [07:58] schestowitz-TR the work, unless it's something like gambling, it not likely to cause [07:59] schestowitz-TR the debt [07:59] schestowitz-TR but creating a business that operates at a loss might [07:59] schestowitz-TR you work and lose at the same time [07:59] Techrights-sec partially, cars, wasteful travel and kids [07:59] Techrights-sec kids are reckeoned to cost 250 k EUR to raise to 18, and the costs [07:59] Techrights-sec extend for quite a few years after 18 these days [07:59] Techrights-sec https://www.gutenberg.org/files/51233/51233-h/51233-h.htm [07:59] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.gutenberg.org | The Project Gutenberg eBook of The Marching Morons, by C. M. Kornbluth. ● Apr 19 [08:03] schestowitz-TR kids and cars are connected [08:03] schestowitz-TR because cars are expected when you have kids [08:03] schestowitz-TR people ask funny questions when you walk the kids 45-minute walks [08:03] schestowitz-TR to get places [08:03] schestowitz-TR esp. in certain weather [08:03] schestowitz-TR so it is another "hidden" cost [08:03] schestowitz-TR which few ould factor in [08:03] schestowitz-TR *would [08:03] schestowitz-TR lol, "the marching morons" [08:03] schestowitz-TR I like the title [08:03] schestowitz-TR incidentally, upstairs 20 mins ago rianne and I joked about our colleagues [08:03] schestowitz-TR who actually invested their personal money in the company [08:03] schestowitz-TR to them, well... they work hard like mules [08:03] schestowitz-TR to us, no... we do the bare minumium and don't care [08:05] Techrights-sec yes if you have kids the logistics of raising them *requires* that a car [08:05] Techrights-sec is used even in most of Europe [08:05] Techrights-sec that adds to the debt, and now even in Europe there is a growing trend [08:05] Techrights-sec for societies to cultivate "student debt" as if that were a normal thing [08:05] Techrights-sec wtf? That's foolish [08:05] Techrights-sec especially given the pull towards clown and M$ [08:05] Techrights-sec if the company were heading in a viable direction that woud be a different [08:05] Techrights-sec matter, but clown and m$ are a dead end [08:05] Techrights-sec tyhen again mules are not smart nor known for being smart [08:08] schestowitz-TR 1) it's not clown and MS, but clown and some occasional nonfree [08:08] schestowitz-TR which is still now goog [08:08] schestowitz-TR *good [08:08] schestowitz-TR 2) in the UK we had the show (predates my adult life) Only Fools and Horses [08:08] schestowitz-TR and you know what comes after that [08:08] schestowitz-TR rianne anmd I already joke that if one day the company goes under we'll be like "LOL! real sorry!" [08:08] schestowitz-TR This sort of mindset is quite healthy, I think [08:08] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:10] Techrights-sec yes, the numbers show that it is a bad investment, one should never invest [08:10] Techrights-sec for other than solid numbers not wishful thinking or other emotional factors [08:10] Techrights-sec At least a certain level of detachment is healthy [08:10] Techrights-sec However, apropos cores mentioned earlier, Kaniini mentioned "soon", is there [08:10] Techrights-sec any way to help with that? I suppose it is a matter of time which he doesn [08:10] Techrights-sec have though [08:11] schestowitz-TR a new job and little spare time led to this [08:11] schestowitz-TR but worry not, at least the verbal commitment is there [08:11] schestowitz-TR 12 months ago it was not that good [08:13] schestowitz-TR judging by volume of daily links, easter monday too got shaved off as a holiday [08:13] schestowitz-TR each year it feels to me like the "champion" economy and the "bext system!" [08:13] schestowitz-TR is trying to sustain itself like the EPO does [08:13] schestowitz-TR by stealing more and more from workers [08:13] schestowitz-TR Battistelli tookm away many holidays [08:13] schestowitz-TR his orange minion brought nonse back [08:13] schestowitz-TR *non [08:13] schestowitz-TR *none [08:15] schestowitz-TR holiday became "long weekend" and long weekend is now just "slow Friday" [08:15] schestowitz-TR boohoo! can't wait till dec 24th (rianne already booked a day off work so we can [08:15] schestowitz-TR bargain-hunt that day) when we have a "long weekend" again [08:15] Techrights-sec yes, the presence of any links at all is due almost entuirely to [08:15] Techrights-sec trolling through the RSS feeds [08:17] schestowitz-TR same in quiterss [08:17] schestowitz-TR it doesn't feel much different than the average weekene [08:17] schestowitz-TR but maybe cause I mostly follow non-corporate blogs [08:20] Techrights-sec 2022-04-01.html 46 [08:20] Techrights-sec 2022-04-02.html 25 [08:20] Techrights-sec 2022-04-03.html 22 [08:20] Techrights-sec 2022-04-04.html 32 [08:20] Techrights-sec 2022-04-05.html 42 [08:20] Techrights-sec 2022-04-06.html 37 [08:20] Techrights-sec 2022-04-07.html 37 [08:20] Techrights-sec 2022-04-08.html 23 [08:20] Techrights-sec 2022-04-09.html 53 [08:20] Techrights-sec 2022-04-10.html 65 [08:20] Techrights-sec 2022-04-11.html 35 [08:20] Techrights-sec 2022-04-12.html 11 [08:20] Techrights-sec 2022-04-13.html 30 [08:20] Techrights-sec 2022-04-14.html 67 [08:20] Techrights-sec 2022-04-15.html 28 [08:20] Techrights-sec 2022-04-16.html 46 [08:20] Techrights-sec 2022-04-17.html 60 [08:20] Techrights-sec 2022-04-18.html 45 [08:20] Techrights-sec 2022-04-19.html 47 [08:20] Techrights-sec same [08:22] schestowitz-TR can't complain [08:22] schestowitz-TR I need to post some things to "feel" productive [08:22] schestowitz-TR and I don't need a break from work/kids/stress [08:22] schestowitz-TR but I had some tgasks in my TODO list which I relied on the "long weekend" (formerly known as holiday) [08:22] schestowitz-TR to get everything done [08:22] schestowitz-TR some of the backup stuff for instance [08:22] schestowitz-TR lots of stuff happening in the background [08:22] schestowitz-TR without it, I'd be able to write more [08:22] schestowitz-TR I lowered my irc activities a bit [08:22] schestowitz-TR a lot of the time it's not leading to any good articles [08:23] Techrights-sec ack [08:23] Techrights-sec excercise several times per day is important and getting up from the computer every 20 minutes for at least a few miniutes is essenti [08:23] Techrights-sec al [08:23] Techrights-sec ok if it is in good hands with mincer [08:24] schestowitz-TR one potential area to expand in: find more stuff, esp. aggregator, for Planet Gemini [08:24] schestowitz-TR this is where I go for all my "discoverables" [08:26] schestowitz-TR as for exercise, I got my shotput ball wrapped up in a used pillowcase to do exercise with, like in a gym [08:26] schestowitz-TR the other ball is with a friend, Mark [08:26] schestowitz-TR I've not seen him in 10 months due to the plague [08:26] schestowitz-TR there's no sign of that being brought under control [08:26] schestowitz-TR "we are the controls!!!" [08:27] Techrights-sec excellent [08:27] Techrights-sec if you had 3 you could juggle but only if there are neighbor below :P [08:27] Techrights-sec yes, there is no sign of leveling off anywhere that I have read about [08:28] schestowitz-TR this is the proper 7.2kg, the 6kg is with my friend [08:28] schestowitz-TR he too might be using it sometimes [08:28] schestowitz-TR so I don't want to ask for it back [08:28] schestowitz-TR one can be creative to get the same done with one, like one set each arm [08:28] schestowitz-TR and stairs foir climbing exercise [08:31] Techrights-sec "The Flying Karamazov Brothers" used to challeng the audience to bring [08:31] Techrights-sec up 3 things to juggle until one person brought up to the stage [08:31] Techrights-sec 1) a bowling ball [08:31] Techrights-sec 2) a pingpong ball [08:31] Techrights-sec 3) a pound of butter [08:31] schestowitz-TR LOL! [08:31] schestowitz-TR paper, rock, scissors [08:32] Techrights-sec they've since modified the rules for their challenge [08:37] schestowitz-TR Chinese Republic of Macron https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/18/french-president-again-calls-for-an-end-to-online-anonymity/ [08:37] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-French President (Again) Calls For An End To Online Anonymity | Techdirt [08:37] schestowitz-TR I should prepare to explain that my two masks and hoodie are a religious ritual [08:37] schestowitz-TR and that it would violate by religious freedom to identify with something other [08:38] schestowitz-TR than fingerprints on cash In hand out [08:39] Techrights-sec LOL might work [08:39] Techrights-sec these days [08:40] schestowitz-TR next, the "cranks" and "COVIDiots" are people who take their health seriously [08:40] schestowitz-TR according yo modified government narratives and leaflets [08:40] schestowitz-TR worse yet -- they might be terroprists anmd pedos waiting to attack [08:40] schestowitz-TR "take off their mask! Punch the nazis" [08:40] schestowitz-TR I should form a united front with Saudi women! [08:40] schestowitz-TR We do have some shared interests after all!! [08:40] schestowitz-TR (not the Saudi feminists, the ones who protect the sexists) [08:40] Techrights-sec https://www.forbes.com/sites/kionasmith/2021/02/28/a-look-behind-the-plague-doctor-mask/ [08:40] Techrights-sec even back then it was a business [08:40] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.forbes.com | A Look Behind The Plague Doctor Mask [08:42] schestowitz-TR next, the "cranks" and "COVIDiots" are people who take their health seriously [08:42] schestowitz-TR according yo modified government narratives and leaflets [08:42] schestowitz-TR worse yet -- they might be terroprists anmd pedos waiting to attack [08:42] schestowitz-TR "take off their mask! Punch the nazis" [08:42] schestowitz-TR I should form a united front with Saudi women! [08:42] schestowitz-TR We do have some shared interests after all!! [08:42] schestowitz-TR (not the Saudi feminists, the ones who protect the sexists) [08:42] schestowitz-TR like I said in the video from Sunday, part of the objective is to keep people away [08:42] schestowitz-TR we have millions of infections per month [08:43] Techrights-sec https://www.forbes.com/sites/kionasmith/2021/02/28/a-look-behind-the-plague-doctor-mask/ [08:43] Techrights-sec even back then it was a business [08:43] Techrights-sec from the link above "Canes also make handy tools for enforcing social distancing, which was actually something medieval and Renaissa [08:43] Techrights-sec nce people had realized could slow the spread of plague." [08:53] Techrights-sec yep ● Apr 19 [09:11] schestowitz-TR "There should be a mandatory course in public health in our nation's law schools." https://www.commondreams.org/n [09:11] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.commondreams.org/n ) [09:11] schestowitz-TR ews/2022/04/18/right-wing-judge-kills-cdc-mask-mandate-travel [09:11] schestowitz-TR you don't want people who use PUBLIC transport to live long anyway [09:11] schestowitz-TR if you are a RICH sociopath [09:11] schestowitz-TR pollute [09:11] schestowitz-TR infect [09:11] schestowitz-TR saddle with debt [09:11] schestowitz-TR saturate with narcotics [09:11] schestowitz-TR make sure they reproduce like rabits [09:11] schestowitz-TR more consumers and collaterals for debt [09:11] schestowitz-TR "There are (IIRC) 168 hours in a week! WE CAN MAKE THIS WORK, WORK HARDER, PEASANTS!" [09:27] schestowitz-TR funny thought that occured to me many times while walking back home [09:27] schestowitz-TR 5-7 years ago I was thinking, as I walked [09:27] schestowitz-TR Assange is in there posting things from an embasst [09:27] schestowitz-TR not touching a pavement for many years [09:27] schestowitz-TR now, assange is stuck in a cell with signal deprivation for 1000+ days [09:27] schestowitz-TR whereas me and rianne are like him inside the embassy [09:27] schestowitz-TR doing workouts at home [09:27] schestowitz-TR going up and down a bit [09:27] schestowitz-TR So one might joke that for many in soviety, esp. non-docile folks, [09:27] schestowitz-TR prison is the next phase [09:27] Techrights-sec ack [09:27] Techrights-sec sensory [09:27] Techrights-sec ack [09:28] schestowitz-TR I have always found it ridiculous that rich people are confined to home arrests [09:28] schestowitz-TR they have mansions!! [09:28] schestowitz-TR Is that supposed to teach them a lesson? [09:28] schestowitz-TR "work harder, make a bigger mansion, as one day this mansion will be your cell|" [09:41] Techrights-sec mansions are large and often have a lot of facilities on sitge [09:54] schestowitz-TR rianne's aunt has bad news [09:54] schestowitz-TR her husband died [09:54] schestowitz-TR I knew him [09:54] schestowitz-TR he died while jogging [09:54] schestowitz-TR someone found him dead [09:54] schestowitz-TR next month we'll travel to here (Yorkshire) [09:54] schestowitz-TR because she wants family to be with her [09:54] schestowitz-TR to not be alone at home [09:54] schestowitz-TR rianne will probably stay over a few days [09:54] schestowitz-TR I will visit for the day and get back [09:54] Techrights-sec thanks sad. my condolences [09:54] Techrights-sec take extra strong filters for the train [09:57] schestowitz-TR we are still debating the details here [09:57] schestowitz-TR maybe rianne stays there 3 nights, then brings her here for some days [09:57] schestowitz-TR we still have 2 spa/massage vouchers [09:57] schestowitz-TR we've not used due to concerns (about contact) [09:57] schestowitz-TR so I reckon they can use those ● Apr 19 [10:03] schestowitz-TR in Dec. 2018 I slepyt "away" (Berlin) [10:03] schestowitz-TR Ever since then the nightly cron jobs have meant [10:03] schestowitz-TR I cannot easily be afk overnight [10:03] schestowitz-TR possible, but can be tricky [10:03] schestowitz-TR the cron jobs were set up around 2019 [10:03] schestowitz-TR anyway, all this is not applicable, still up to debate, until next month [10:03] schestowitz-TR for rianne it'll be good to spend a lot of time with family [10:03] schestowitz-TR she is a nurse and very COVID-aware [10:03] schestowitz-TR so I don't worry about THAT [10:03] schestowitz-TR If there's a guest I feel safe being here, it's her [10:03] schestowitz-TR as a side note, a friend who is a nurse killed herself recently [10:03] schestowitz-TR and a doctor at the hospital also killed himself this year [10:03] schestowitz-TR those don't count as COVID deaths [10:03] schestowitz-TR the mental and financial devastation cause due to or alongside the [10:03] schestowitz-TR pandemic do not get added to tallies [10:03] schestowitz-TR today in irc (main channel) our young ukrainian lad is again talking [10:03] schestowitz-TR about him being suicidal [10:03] schestowitz-TR (an hour ago) [10:05] Techrights-sec :/ the stress at those jobs is terrible in normal times and as the politicians [10:05] Techrights-sec ramp it up to drive people to privatized [10:05] Techrights-sec war is awful )thats an understatement= [10:05] Techrights-sec hope he hangs in there most of the rest of Europe supports defense of [10:05] Techrights-sec UA but the bureaucracy is deadly slow to act on it [10:05] Techrights-sec tech savy is important in these times [10:07] schestowitz-TR I am careful not to say the wrong things [10:07] schestowitz-TR saying nothing is also unhelpful [10:07] schestowitz-TR he is about 18 [10:07] schestowitz-TR but VERY tech-savvy and mature in this regard [10:07] schestowitz-TR bnchs also (22) [10:34] schestowitz Twitter is JOURNALISM DONCHU NO??? http://techrights.org/2022/03/21/ukraine-in-twitter/ [10:34] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Twitter: Were Actually a News Site, Follow These Tweets and Twits | Techrights [10:36] schestowitz-TR the trigger word was mentioned in IRC [10:36] schestowitz-TR CoC and PoCoC [10:36] schestowitz-TR which triggered a troll [10:36] schestowitz-TR but "matey" shot the troll and the troll lost [10:36] schestowitz-TR I will use an alarm clock from the 90s that uses fm and am radio [10:36] schestowitz-TR it still works [10:36] schestowitz-TR earlier this month I let it run on for a bit [10:36] schestowitz-TR inc. into commercial breaks and "content" [10:36] schestowitz-TR what an awful pile of shit it was [10:36] schestowitz-TR i eneded up mentally drained [10:36] schestowitz-TR before even waking out of bed [10:36] schestowitz-TR Twitter is JOURNALISM DONCHU NO??? http://techrights.org/2022/03/21/ukraine-in-twitter/ [10:36] schestowitz-TR Yesterday I was thinking of the AOL flopppy=subscriber slant [10:36] schestowitz-TR When Twitter says it has "x active users" [10:36] schestowitz-TR what does Twitter Inc. mean?? [10:36] schestowitz-TR Active as in clicked on some twitter link in Gulag search and had twitter browser cookie? [10:36] schestowitz-TR Logged in but just reading [10:36] schestowitz-TR Logged in in past 365 days? [10:37] schestowitz-TR Reading but not posting? Not even liking? You know what the Twitter CFO will favour,,, [10:37] Techrights-sec I can't tolerate any commercial radio or television, and not just because of [10:37] Techrights-sec the ads [10:37] Techrights-sec yes, there is a strong parallel from what I see [10:37] Techrights-sec it sounds like they are lying about a lot of stats [10:40] schestowitz-TR I have repeatedly stated, and can provide some prooof/evidence, that they herd all the users [10:40] schestowitz-TR into few accounts/tweets/topics [10:40] schestowitz-TR they funnel in all the traffic to give a false impression of importance [10:40] schestowitz-TR they might as well pay MSM to feed into this frenzt [10:40] schestowitz-TR in the past the traffic was more nicely spread [10:40] schestowitz-TR but now they herd people into few places by provoking them [10:40] schestowitz-TR if now pushing things, even into "NOTIFICATIONS" [10:40] schestowitz-TR thinss that have nothing to do with you [10:40] schestowitz-TR they show me "tweets" from people I do not "follow" [10:40] schestowitz-TR in my notifications bar [10:40] schestowitz-TR I last saw it when I checked last week [10:40] Techrights-sec tht would be profitable for them to do and be easy for them to do and [10:40] Techrights-sec be low risk for them to do so it is probable that even without strong [10:40] Techrights-sec evidence one can presume it is being done [10:46] schestowitz-TR they might try to argue they are trying to help YOU! [10:46] schestowitz-TR To know what's important [10:46] schestowitz-TR the pluocrats have long sought ways to control public rage [10:46] schestowitz-TR and tpo shift focus to and away from certain topics [10:46] schestowitz-TR like FB rebranding as "mta" [10:46] schestowitz-TR to break the news/noise cycle [10:46] schestowitz-TR BTW, the "Linux" events that pocker money from these mobsters [10:46] schestowitz-TR now they change their sites to say "meta" is a sponsor [10:46] schestowitz-TR LF has one for meta, one for FB [10:46] schestowitz-TR like Microsoft with the two palms, GitHub and Microsoft [10:46] schestowitz-TR I was gona say something else ebut forgot [10:46] schestowitz-TR though maybe it was about FB doing its "experiments" with manipulatiob of emotions [10:46] schestowitz-TR they do not need to make it directly profitable [10:46] schestowitz-TR they can rent or outright sell the platforms to oligarchs like Trump and Musk [10:46] schestowitz-TR maybe they want to "take turns" [10:46] schestowitz-TR hence resist the temptatiun to sell to just one power broker [10:46] schestowitz-TR butr the ability to shift TO and AWQAY from topics all around the world [10:46] schestowitz-TR in many languages [10:46] schestowitz-TR is incredible powerful [10:46] schestowitz-TR with media scattered across nations, languages and different owners it's very easy to [10:46] schestowitz-TR coordinates blackouts etc. [10:46] schestowitz-TR I have much to say about how Russian invasion was handled by social control media [10:46] schestowitz-TR but that might get me labeled "Russian agents" or "apologist" [10:46] schestowitz-TR media consolidation has been studied as a threat for decades [10:46] schestowitz-TR few dare question consolidatiomn aspects [10:47] schestowitz-TR of this new form of aggregatinon [10:47] schestowitz-TR like one universal fake RSS reader [10:47] schestowitz-TR where rich people and politicians constantyly stick their palms [10:58] Techrights-sec RSS is mostly limited to blogs, as far as the useful stuff goes ● Apr 19 [11:00] schestowitz-TR Well, that's too bad then :-) [11:00] schestowitz-TR So I won't be seeing much of the corporate "media" [11:00] schestowitz-TR Like I said earlier, one area for expansion might be Planet Gemini [11:00] schestowitz-TR I saw only one sponsored spam there so far [11:00] schestowitz-TR As for my patent feed, good lord! I have to go through maybe 40 shits to find just one decent article [11:00] schestowitz-TR but I found an approach of extracting value from the set [11:00] schestowitz-TR and I lowered its priority in general [11:02] schestowitz-TR I don't trust Planets they are good usually for only a while after they [11:02] schestowitz-TR are first set up and then people either figure out how to game them [11:02] schestowitz-TR or otherwise start maniupulating the output [11:02] Techrights-sec I don't trust Planets they are good usually for only a while after they [11:02] Techrights-sec are first set up and then people either figure out how to game them [11:02] Techrights-sec or otherwise start maniupulating the output [11:08] Techrights-sec 40:1 is still better than what has become the new average [11:08] Techrights-sec FWIW it's Earth Day again on Friday, but the airlines are increasing their [11:08] Techrights-sec flights again and on top of that were still flying empty planes to "keep" their slots at the airports. [11:11] schestowitz-TR if not enough people "help" them by flying, then maybe our regimes [11:11] schestowitz-TR should bail them out some more [11:11] schestowitz-TR IOW, taking our money as taxpayers forcibly [11:11] schestowitz-TR to feed the likes of starving Dick Bransom and his ilk [11:11] schestowitz-TR because planes are too big to FALL [11:11] schestowitz-TR and they help prototype bombers and jets [11:11] schestowitz-TR we really need those [11:11] schestowitz-TR for their very very "precise" targeting [11:11] schestowitz-TR Boeing: we make missiles and war planes [11:11] schestowitz-TR (we also design some made-in-china, assembled-in-Murica "civilian" products) [11:11] schestowitz-TR we are the "JBO CREATORS", bail us out. [11:11] schestowitz-TR Biden, increase the military budget. Ukraine something.... [11:12] Techrights-sec unfortunately most of the military budget looks like graft and other [11:12] Techrights-sec non-producing crap, such as the large bailouts to M$ [11:12] schestowitz-TR the hoplolens BS doesn't seem like it's coming to fruition [11:13] schestowitz-TR the "media deserts" occasionally float some puff piece about parents' homes [11:13] schestowitz-TR who will be held accountable for this theft (graft)? [11:13] schestowitz-TR can't criticise "the troops", they keep US/us safe... [11:14] Techrights-sec that's what it amounts to -- theft -- and money spent there means taht [11:14] Techrights-sec actual effective tools are not bought or used so lives are lost directly [11:14] Techrights-sec and indirectly [11:16] schestowitz-TR fiscally eugenicist :-) [11:16] schestowitz-TR (the use and misuse of money to eliminate the "undesirable" -- to the fake economy -- elements) [11:18] Techrights-sec again those with a base level of altruism, patriotism/loyalty, health, [11:18] Techrights-sec intellect, and education are those that are entering the military service [11:18] Techrights-sec under a defacto draft due to poverty and such; so it is those attributes [11:18] Techrights-sec which are being eliminated from society [11:18] schestowitz-TR if microsoft could get money from qatar for computing services in a department that doe snot have computers [11:18] schestowitz-TR and the US regime turns a blind eye to complaints about it [11:18] schestowitz-TR why not hand over $22,000,000,000 to Microsoft for something that will never be delivered? [11:18] schestowitz-TR "SUPPORT THE TROOPS.... TROOPS NEED HELMETS!!!" [11:19] Techrights-sec yep [11:19] Techrights-sec qatarr and worse [11:19] Techrights-sec entering the miliatary lowers their biological fitness, for the most part [11:19] Techrights-sec there are many drawbacks with few to no benefits and even when there are [11:19] Techrights-sec advantages they are usually offset by the disadvantages. [11:19] Techrights-sec https://www.nbcnews.com/health/cancer/forever-chemical-poisons-drinking-water-near-military-bases-n1101736 [11:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nbcnews.com | A 'forever chemical' contaminates drinking water near military bases [11:20] Techrights-sec https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pfas-forever-chemicals-groundwater-us-military-bases/ [11:20] Techrights-sec https://apnews.com/article/us-army-fort-ord-chemical-exposure-cancer-c1078dd520322f2a4130e2f7077b7892 [11:20] Techrights-sec many bases, not just one or two [11:20] Techrights-sec and it affects the communities nearby as well [11:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cbsnews.com | Toxic "forever chemicals" found in groundwater near more U.S. military bases - CBS News [11:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-apnews.com | What Lies Beneath: Vets worry polluted base made them ill | AP News [11:20] schestowitz-TR don't worry, there are no military bases anywhere near manhattan and beverly hills [11:22] schestowitz-TR Rape https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/18/i-can-do-whatever-i-want-to-you [11:22] schestowitz-TR reminded me of Okinawa when I first saw it [11:22] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-meduza.io | NO TITLE [11:22] schestowitz-TR or the women who drank poison when the Sovets advanced towards Berlin [11:24] Techrights-sec that last article is a longer read [11:24] Techrights-sec unfortunately it's all throttled through facebook [11:26] schestowitz-TR another cancer alley-like story [11:26] schestowitz-TR I think I saw it in alternative media years before th MSM touched the matter [11:27] schestowitz-TR first in hawaii IIRC [11:27] schestowitz-TR pentagon is the world's biggest contributor to both pollution and climate change IIRC [11:27] schestowitz-TR air, water etc. [11:27] schestowitz-TR Microsoft ios again copying ICBM [11:27] schestowitz-TR for many years ICBM made a tons of money off gov/military contracts [11:27] schestowitz-TR Aamzon is also entering the space [11:27] schestowitz-TR as even domestically states enagage in war and intel operations against [11:27] schestowitz-TR their "own" population [11:28] Techrights-sec Youre not just serving for six years, like me, and then youre out, she said. If youve been given cancer, thats a life sentence [11:28] Techrights-sec . [11:28] Techrights-sec most bases with heavy equipment (which is nearly all) especially planes [11:28] Techrights-sec are toxic [11:28] Techrights-sec carbon and chemicals [11:28] Techrights-sec yes amazzon is a bad deal for the nation in many ways [11:28] Techrights-sec https://www.civilbeat.org/2021/12/water-contamination-on-military-bases-isnt-new-and-thats-a-problem/ [11:28] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.civilbeat.org | Water Contamination On Military Bases Isn't New. And That's A Problem - Honolulu Civil Beat [11:29] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@7adiimzyx9th6.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:29] schestowitz-TR why was the subject suppressed by the media for so long [11:29] schestowitz-TR and what finally broke the silence [11:29] schestowitz-TR also, what will the outcome of this "ourage" be? [11:29] schestowitz-TR fewer planes? [11:29] schestowitz-TR greenwashing? [11:29] schestowitz-TR reperations? (LOL, sorry I spat out my coffee) [11:31] Techrights-sec o [11:31] Techrights-sec outrage which will be express impotently as "tweets" which are so ephemeral [11:31] Techrights-sec 'that no one will notice [11:31] Techrights-sec ' [11:35] schestowitz-TR so Musk Social will change the trending a bit with a few button presses [11:35] schestowitz-TR and maybe add some will smith or kardahian arse to herd people some other place [11:35] schestowitz-TR when it comes to ourage cycles, the subject have been studied [11:35] schestowitz-TR you can change people'e aattention span and outrage quotient or faces [11:35] schestowitz-TR ('rage-shifting' for lack of a proper term) [11:35] schestowitz-TR in less than 18 months [11:35] schestowitz-TR maybe in 18 seconds [11:35] schestowitz-TR "she said what?" [11:35] schestowitz-TR "he slapped who?" [11:35] schestowitz-TR "Trump tweets WHAT??" [11:35] schestowitz-TR BTW, few people still read "long form" [11:35] schestowitz-TR books, long articles etc. [11:35] schestowitz-TR unless it's some action firms with breasts and explosions [11:35] schestowitz-TR re techrights, not many topics I see for today [11:35] schestowitz-TR but that's alright, we have a large trove of material and the important thing is keeping the site online, running, ranks [11:35] schestowitz-TR OK for people to find info on pertinent info they look for [11:35] schestowitz-TR rianne finished cooking and is now posting to TM [11:35] schestowitz-TR I will follow after she's done (we try to avoid overlap for risk of "dupes") [11:53] Techrights-sec *very* few people /can/ read long form any more [11:53] Techrights-sec of those not all actually do [11:53] Techrights-sec and to paraphrase an unattributed / unattributable saying, [11:53] Techrights-sec there is no difference between those that cannot read and those that do not [11:53] Techrights-sec read [11:53] Techrights-sec in practice [11:55] schestowitz-TR same with swimming and many other things [11:55] schestowitz-TR I've not driven for a long time but can still drive OK [11:55] schestowitz-TR driving is actually very easy with today's cars [11:55] schestowitz-TR the human rights issues aside [11:55] schestowitz-TR even parking became simpler because they give you prompts about cars, pavements and show you angles you could not [11:55] schestowitz-TR get before [11:55] schestowitz-TR \ [11:55] schestowitz-TR btw, my video about LF CoC was in front page of LXer [11:55] schestowitz-TR those are the sorts of topics you do NOT expect to appear (or stay) in Reddit, Fucker News, and other [11:55] schestowitz-TR corporate BS that posthumously exploits victims of themselves [11:56] Techrights-sec :) [11:57] schestowitz-TR news of actual vericity is again thin today [11:57] schestowitz-TR so I think I will take it easy and focus on my maintenance tasks from TODO [11:57] schestowitz-TR things like backups and shuffling around equipment (did lots of that yesterday again) [11:57] schestowitz-TR I work 5:30pm onwards [11:57] schestowitz-TR rianne barelyy found news worthy of TM this morning [11:57] schestowitz-TR we'll widen the draft nets a bit [11:57] schestowitz-TR *drift [11:59] schestowitz-TR *veracity [11:59] schestowitz-TR you can tell I'm not alarmed by IRC typos, I think people can recognise the informal value of it [11:59] schestowitz-TR and in case of faux pas you can use the typos to reaffirm this assertion that IRC [11:59] schestowitz-TR should be interpreted as informal ● Apr 19 [12:03] *activelow has quit (connection closed) [12:03] *activelow (~activelow@7n99st3fyggac.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:11] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [12:12] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:32] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [12:49] Techrights-sec it may be nextweek before the news recovers a bit but it seems that for many [12:49] Techrights-sec years the news diminishes permanently after each major holida [12:51] schestowitz-TR I think that's to do with operational cycles [12:51] schestowitz-TR like, your contract ends at the end of the year i.e. dec 23rd [12:51] schestowitz-TR or various other decision made effective after a break [12:51] schestowitz-TR to me, personally, it seems like assurance that our articles [12:51] schestowitz-TR on particular topics will be ranked higher [12:52] schestowitz-TR esp. those which are very old and have no "competition" left [12:52] schestowitz-TR online [12:52] schestowitz-TR keeping sites online is not cheap [12:52] schestowitz-TR the MBAs and marketers who run interferences do not know even the very basics [12:52] schestowitz-TR and need to hire companies like us, under SLA, to do simple stuff like [12:52] schestowitz-TR restart mysql or apply system updates [12:52] Techrights-sec it may be nextweek before the news recovers a bit but it seems that for many [12:52] Techrights-sec years the news diminishes permanently after each major holiday [12:52] Techrights-sec perhaps it is something like that [12:52] Techrights-sec yes but overall it would be better for more sites to cover important issues [12:52] Techrights-sec well [12:54] schestowitz-TR the sites which perrish (not blogs IME) are doing more harm than good, on average [12:54] schestowitz-TR because the output is decided on by advertisers [12:54] schestowitz-TR A lot of Mono and .NET boosting came not from blogs [12:54] schestowitz-TR but from complicity corporate media [12:54] schestowitz-TR hotice how zdnet too fell to less than 50% of its capacity 2 years ago [12:54] schestowitz-TR this is what we want!!! [12:55] Techrights-sec well [12:55] Techrights-sec kind of. as zdnet is now, it would be better for the world if it shutdown; however the zdnet of 20 years ago was great and had prope [12:55] Techrights-sec r FOSS coverage, like [12:55] Techrights-sec most magazines also had back then; BYTE was one of the first shutdown IIRC [12:55] Techrights-sec CMP killed it probably because all the editors became enthusiastic about [12:55] Techrights-sec "Linux" [12:56] schestowitz-TR many other CMP "properties" in its "portfolio" vanished or became inactive [12:56] schestowitz-TR one of those "toxic asets" to put on the "bad" book or "balance sheet" [12:57] Techrights-sec yes their goal is to shutdown anything that's not toeing the line [12:57] Techrights-sec It's not an investment per se, though they may try to call it that in the [12:57] Techrights-sec press release, but instead an ideological maneuver [12:57] schestowitz-TR Elop <3 Nokia [12:57] schestowitz-TR Icahn <3 Yahoo! [12:57] schestowitz-TR Microsoft <3 Linux ● Apr 19 [13:00] schestowitz-TR I supported LF when it started [13:00] schestowitz-TR Now I cannot wait to see it reaching its "successful bankruptcy" [13:04] Techrights-sec yes LF seemed like a good idea at the beginning, if I understand [13:04] Techrights-sec correctly it was to provide independent employment for Linus but rather quickly it [13:04] Techrights-sec got infiltrated by microsofters and subverted to represent corporate interests [13:04] Techrights-sec within the kernel rather than general promotion and advancement of the [13:04] Techrights-sec kernel itself. No project is too small for M$ to attack and LF was not [13:05] Techrights-sec just big but important. [13:05] schestowitz-TR and now, in turn, LF is used to corrupt media [13:05] schestowitz-TR FOSS Force is one of many [13:06] Techrights-sec FOSSforce fell more recently [13:57] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:58] *activelow (~activelow@9uija3px4kbp2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 19 [15:04] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:04] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 19 [16:20] schestowitz-TR I think we need to research tidelift and explain to people what this POS is [16:20] schestowitz-TR seems like another OSI if not worse [16:20] schestowitz-TR but I once heard a Red Hat founder too was involved [16:20] schestowitz-TR I found out they'r e bankrolled by 'curious' entities [16:20] schestowitz-TR that remind me of things we saw in the novell era [16:20] schestowitz-TR [16:17] Regarding TideLift, it's funded by 'former' Microsoft as the General Manager of General Gatalyst (Quentin C [16:20] schestowitz-TR lark) [16:20] schestowitz-TR [15:42] Don't ask Tidelift about Stalin. It might say something about Hitler being bad and thus Stalin being good. [16:20] schestowitz-TR Tidelift = corporate shills. [16:20] schestowitz-TR [15:41] Tidelift is a longtime Microsoft booster, in effect trying to reform the image of a company that commits cr [16:20] schestowitz-TR imes and attacks Free software https://tidelift.com/about/lifter/microsoft_commits https://blog.tidelift.com/wtf-the-data-behind-micr [16:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-tidelift.com | Which open source projects has Microsoft committed to? [16:20] schestowitz-TR osofts-surprising-open-source-track-record [16:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://blog.tidelift.com/wtf-the-data-behind-micr ) [16:20] schestowitz-TR [15:36] tidelift is joining the Microsoft-led FUD campaign https://blog.tidelift.com/finding-1-security-is-open-sou [16:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://blog.tidelift.com/finding-1-security-is-open-sou ) [16:20] schestowitz-TR rce-developers-most-urgent-challenge-while-complying-with-government-requirements-is-a-rising-concern see http://techrights.org/2022/ [16:20] schestowitz-TR 01/14/white-house-security-theatre/ [16:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | 2022 | Techrights [16:20] Techrights-sec ack [16:20] Techrights-sec ok [16:22] schestowitz-TR 20 years at Microsoft, now behind tidelift https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/uncategorised/quentinclark/ [16:22] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thetwentyminutevc.com | 20VC: Lessons From Working with Bill Gates, How To Lead Without Authority and The Difference Between Leadership and Management & How Fundraising Changes In A COVID World with Quentin Clark, Managing Director @ General Catalyst - 20VC [16:23] schestowitz-TR we need to do at least one blog post on the matter [16:23] schestowitz-TR they also have "everyone who opposes me is homophobic" Simmons [16:23] Techrights-sec :( [16:23] Techrights-sec shills and astroturfers abound [16:23] Techrights-sec yep [16:23] Techrights-sec ack [16:24] schestowitz-TR I seem to have underestimated how awful they are [16:24] schestowitz-TR when they were first introduced it still seemed benign [16:24] schestowitz-TR now they are another black duck [16:24] schestowitz-TR pretending to speak 'for' us [16:25] Techrights-sec blackduck and snyk and other fake fronts [16:25] Techrights-sec I have met people fooled by blackduck [16:25] Techrights-sec most people don't know where to turn for information so they believe the [16:25] Techrights-sec marketing lies spread by the two [16:59] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) ● Apr 19 [17:01] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 19 [18:07] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@apf382x4ci78a.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 19 [19:34] Techrights-sec I used to read MsGNULinux and notice that the daily links mention of [19:34] Techrights-sec Pedro Francisco's passing. Any more details about that? [19:34] schestowitz-TR lwn, gnu, and the project [19:35] schestowitz-TR I put these in TM [19:35] schestowitz-TR lwn links to the email [19:35] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:36] Techrights-sec Yes the LWN and the [19:36] Techrights-sec Savannah links were about the same e-mail. [19:36] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Connection closed) [19:36] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [19:36] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:46] Techrights-sec [19:46] Techrights-sec Perhaps there is more somewhere? The actual site he ran has been offline [19:46] Techrights-sec for a long time. [19:47] schestowitz-TR rianne has just mistakenly posted a dupe [19:47] schestowitz-TR but to a different source [19:47] schestowitz-TR and out of respect we decided to leave it [19:47] schestowitz-TR I told her you had asked about him [19:47] schestowitz-TR if you find more, post here or in next batch/es and I will add as a comment [19:47] schestowitz-TR Techrights Daily Links title included his name [19:48] Techrights-sec It has been offline since last year basically [19:48] Techrights-sec ok [19:48] Techrights-sec https://web.archive.org/web/*/www.masgnulinux.es [19:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | Wayback Machine [19:58] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Apr 19 [20:27] *acer-box has quit (Connection closed) [20:27] *schestowitz-TR has quit (connection closed) [20:28] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:28] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [20:33] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@96w46fyzf6b2u.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 19 [21:44] *u-amarsh04 has quit (connection closed) [21:44] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Connection closed) ● Apr 19 [22:48] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)