●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, May 19, 2022 ●● ● May 19 [00:07] *schestowitz_log is now known as schestowitz_ltr2 ● May 19 [06:47] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● May 19 [07:11] *techrights_guest|32 (~983979c5@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:12] *techrights_guest|32 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [07:58] Techrights-sec Heard a rumor that all the web shops with an EU presence must meet some [07:58] Techrights-sec basic level of accessibiity. However, no source yet and, of course, [07:58] Techrights-sec the devil is in the details even if they do comply by 2025. [07:58] Techrights-sec It might be an opportunity to eliminate the dependency on javascript [07:58] Techrights-sec and move from "web apps" back to actual web pages. [07:58] Techrights-sec http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-180522.html#tMay%2018%2020:22:22 [07:58] Techrights-sec LPI or LF ought to help bail out Costa Rica [07:58] Techrights-sec Costa Rica is at war with M$, not Conti, but does not admit it [07:58] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 ● May 19 [08:02] schestowitz-TR damn. after 200 or so days my xfce4 lost power overnight [08:02] schestowitz-TR no I need to restore ther whole session [08:02] schestowitz-TR sole upside is, I can restore it better than before [08:02] schestowitz-TR and workflows have changed [08:51] Techrights-sec LPI and LF ought to make an effort to help Costa Rica out of their Windoze######### [08:51] Techrights-sec predicament, Conti is only partially to blame, the presence of Windows allows [08:51] Techrights-sec ransomware to thrive [08:52] schestowitz-TR I think our session got a little affected by me trying to re-access it from "cavan" [08:52] schestowitz-TR I am shuffleing many things around [08:52] schestowitz-TR taking the opportunity to better distribute tasks [08:52] schestowitz-TR new is very slow [08:52] schestowitz-TR I found no topic eysterdat [08:52] schestowitz-TR silence is better than impulsive crap [08:53] Techrights-sec yep ● May 19 [09:00] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:00] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:07] schestowitz-TR "Part of the reason for this weiphlog was to call bullshit on social media: on the itch we have to be heard in a forum. The toxic itch for professorial exhibition." gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/~shufei/phlog/Shufei-ThisAndThat-Weiphlog.gmi [09:20] Techrights-sec ack [09:34] schestowitz-TR minor point: christine hall wrote something yesterday [09:34] schestowitz-TR yes, it's significant [09:34] schestowitz-TR as the blog was mostly dead lately [09:34] Techrights-sec I stopped reading her site a while back [09:34] schestowitz-TR but many of the articles have neen lf and ibm boosting [09:34] schestowitz-TR it's not "organic" [09:34] schestowitz-TR it's paid-for agenda [09:35] schestowitz-TR there mau be a dead of change on the Web [09:35] schestowitz-TR not what we see right now [09:35] schestowitz-TR but something more profound [09:35] schestowitz-TR as webspam is becoming very widespread [09:35] schestowitz-TR there's no news! [09:35] schestowitz-TR certainly not in patents [09:35] schestowitz-TR and "linux" became the same [09:35] schestowitz-TR social control media at crossroads [09:37] Techrights-sec social control media is part of that problem since so many take shortcuts [09:37] Techrights-sec and instead of doing even a minimal amount of investigation, just checking [09:37] Techrights-sec to see what twitter wants them to see [09:37] schestowitz-TR comment moderationm became "uneconomic" because people remark in censored, filters social control [09:37] schestowitz-TR media and not in comment facilities of blogs [09:37] schestowitz-TR that's like disqus ousourcing but bigger [09:37] schestowitz-TR and lowers the incentive for news sites to carry on at all [09:37] Techrights-sec by steering readers over to social control medai they actively reduce the [09:37] Techrights-sec likelihood that they will return to the site and over time there is enough [09:37] Techrights-sec attrition for it be a significant drop in numbers :( [09:38] schestowitz-TR yes, exactly [09:38] schestowitz-TR many young people never heard of rss [09:38] schestowitz-TR and they are becoming fluent in algospeak [09:38] schestowitz-TR and memorising emojis [09:46] Techrights-sec which just means that first their speech, then their behavior, then their [09:46] Techrights-sec thoughts become warped to Twitter's (and the others') agenda. [09:46] Techrights-sec Perhaps more importantly, they are not learning or growing mentally, emotionally [09:46] Techrights-sec Instead they are addicted to an interface which provides only highly ephemeral [09:46] Techrights-sec stimulation in exchange for "emitting behaviors" like a handheld skinner box. [09:50] schestowitz-TR digg was a form of agamification [09:50] schestowitz-TR I could never understand why one-line comment of "like" or "digg" [09:50] schestowitz-TR was any more worthy than propert communication [09:50] schestowitz-TR like irc [09:50] schestowitz-TR where you can interact in real time [09:50] schestowitz-TR social control media is having massive delays in communicstion [09:50] schestowitz-TR and the topics are thus all over the place [09:50] schestowitz-TR so the debate cannot develop [09:51] Techrights-sec they can't memorize the emojis since they change meaning over the weeks that [09:51] Techrights-sec pass. [09:51] Techrights-sec Like I said, it's highly ephemeral. [09:51] Techrights-sec Digg censored very heavily. [09:51] Techrights-sec Any time you bring up Digg, I will recall that it blocked any and all mention [09:51] Techrights-sec of the OpenDocument Format and related material on Open Standards. [09:55] Techrights-sec TR published article/s about ODF in Digg [09:55] Techrights-sec but it was a very long time ago [09:55] schestowitz-TR TR published article/s about ODF in Digg [09:55] schestowitz-TR but it was a very long time ago [09:55] Techrights-sec Yes, I recall that TR tried but they were quickly sidelined there, as was [09:55] Techrights-sec anything related to ODF. [09:57] schestowitz-TR back in those days our company run an EVENT for ODF [09:57] schestowitz-TR now we have some fools who do web-based [09:57] schestowitz-TR like it's OK [09:57] schestowitz-TR I was thinking of your standards work yesterday [09:57] schestowitz-TR but I cannot remember the substance or context [09:57] schestowitz-TR it could not even been so important, else I'd have brought it up [09:57] schestowitz-TR but document formats are barely even a topic anymore ● May 19 [10:00] schestowitz-TR for that matter (continuing my thoughts) [10:00] schestowitz-TR now we have "apps", not "web" [10:00] schestowitz-TR and "web" is "webapps" [10:00] schestowitz-TR even things like twitter devolved in this way [10:00] schestowitz-TR similarly, rss is not a thing [10:00] schestowitz-TR ownership is not a thing [10:00] schestowitz-TR "streaming" [10:00] schestowitz-TR DRM [10:00] schestowitz-TR there's a storm brewing [10:00] schestowitz-TR I want to see what happens when some "tech titans" collapse [10:00] schestowitz-TR and the aftermath [10:04] schestowitz-TR sometiems it feels like we just need to be patient and persistg until some storms passes [10:04] schestowitz-TR many won't make it to the other side [10:04] schestowitz-TR and this is fine [10:04] schestowitz-TR but the important thing is to maintain operations and come to the other side [10:04] schestowitz-TR software freedom is under attack for decades already [10:04] schestowitz-TR but 39 years later it's still here [10:11] Techrights-sec yes but unfortunately proprietary software still has a noticeable presence [10:11] Techrights-sec and above all in schools, that is *extremely* harmful [10:12] schestowitz-TR schools get targeted deliberately [10:14] schestowitz-TR artment of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/05/15/corporate-media-ignore-left-critiques-governments-new-disinformation-board | Source: Common Dreams [10:14] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Corporate Media Ignore Left Critiques of Government's New 'Disinformation' Board | Julianne Tveten [10:15] schestowitz-TR "Disinformation has become a central tool in the United States and Russias expanding information war." https://fair.org/home/disinformation-label-serves-to-marginalize-crucial-ukraine-facts/ | Source: FAIR [10:15] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fair.org | 'Disinformation' Label Serves to Marginalize Crucial Ukraine Facts - FAIR [10:15] schestowitz-TR "disinformation" or pretext for censorship? https://scheerpost.com/2022/05/18/dhs-disinformation-board-put-on-pause-after-backlash/ | Source: Scheerpost [10:15] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-DHS Disinformation Board Put on Pause After Backlash scheerpost.com [10:17] Techrights-sec yes and it is related to the disinformation campaign in that they use a [10:17] Techrights-sec similar principle. When people adopt a position on a topic, they very rarely [10:17] Techrights-sec let facts subsquently interfere with that position. So the proprietary shops [10:17] Techrights-sec aim to get children exposed to their products before anything else. [10:17] Techrights-sec Also M$ damages society by being so illogical, complicated, and convolted, so [10:18] Techrights-sec that any kid that claims to be interested in computers will be driven away [10:18] Techrights-sec unless they are compliant. Those that make the cut will be useless for real computing on the basis on their inability to work [10:18] Techrights-sec logically. Thus you end up [10:18] Techrights-sec with a pool of clowns, exclusively, in regards to what the industry has become. [10:18] Techrights-sec Same for research since those who would have surpassing skills are culled [10:18] Techrights-sec early on. [10:18] schestowitz-TR I think this is the subject of Mark's next book [10:19] Techrights-sec When is that book due? [10:19] schestowitz-TR he is probably too busy marking up exams and other nonsese at the 'school' [10:20] *rianne_ (~rianne@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:20] *asusbox (~rianne@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:21] Techrights-sec ack [10:25] schestowitz-TR [bing rant] [10:25] schestowitz-TR *big [10:25] schestowitz-TR (need outlet) [10:25] schestowitz-TR woke up this morning, one laptop shut down [10:25] schestowitz-TR I was suspicious of it when I went to bed, double-checked [10:26] schestowitz-TR it's one of two where the socket is super sensitive [10:26] schestowitz-TR and I can sometimes catch it when not afk [10:26] schestowitz-TR after convincing myself "maybe for the better" (mental trick) [10:26] schestowitz-TR because I reshuffled tasks around (xfce unlike kde does not restore sessiopns afisk) [10:26] schestowitz-TR the other laptop also shut down, at 9am [10:26] schestowitz-TR I complained about this one in IRC last night [10:26] schestowitz-TR they both have a loose connection near the power inlet [10:26] schestowitz-TR and it's like voodoo magic getting it right [10:26] schestowitz-TR so now I need to spend my whole morning shuffl things again [10:26] schestowitz-TR to feel like I gain on productivity [10:26] schestowitz-TR thankfully the news seemed slow [10:26] schestowitz-TR based ona rapid alta visdta before rianne has a pass at it [10:26] schestowitz-TR the setup here is underutilised a [10:26] schestowitz-TR and Istill don't know what happens ij the company and thus if I can phase out some things [10:26] schestowitz-TR the lack of certainty is a nuisance [10:26] schestowitz-TR fore the company, the lack of a future is a years-long issue [10:26] schestowitz-TR as a non-shareholders I did not care as long as I could "milk" [10:29] schestowitz-TR sub-rant" [10:29] schestowitz-TR depending on distro and version, some machines have synergy [10:29] schestowitz-TR some only have barrier [10:29] schestowitz-TR so the main laptop connects to two laptops over synergy [10:29] schestowitz-TR and two over barrier [10:29] schestowitz-TR even just shoehorning the darn thing into some distros was hard work [10:30] schestowitz-TR the issue is, the motion of the mouse is counterintuitive [10:30] schestowitz-TR as you cannot properly assign corners [10:30] schestowitz-TR you have to memorse that going to the far left means going all the way to the right [10:30] schestowitz-TR because the layout is set separately for barrier and synergy [10:30] schestowitz-TR over different port numbers [10:30] schestowitz-TR and the two bits of software, which are based on similar codebase, do not mix well [10:30] schestowitz-TR the lack of intuitive mouse motion costs time [10:30] schestowitz-TR I had it perfect int he old office [10:30] schestowitz-TR but then I could no longer trust the ssd so addeed a new laptop and another screen [10:30] schestowitz-TR needed bigger desk [10:30] schestowitz-TR very sub-optimal atm [10:30] schestowitz-TR I should take advatage of news slowness and tackle this [10:33] Techrights-sec ack [10:37] Techrights-sec sometimes it is necessary to invest in improving the local infrastructure [10:38] schestowitz-TR a never ending optimisation problem when the hardware keeps changing [10:38] schestowitz-TR new hardware, new fault, new conditions [10:38] schestowitz-TR in winter I might go back upstairs [10:38] schestowitz-TR for heat mostly [10:38] Techrights-sec yes, frequent tuning is necessary plus the occasional major adjustment ● May 19 [11:02] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [11:09] *asusbox has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[11:19] *asusbox (~rianne@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:30] schestowitz-TR TIL: better not to have rightt-right or left-to-left in synergy/barrier [11:30] schestowitz-TR it's not only a technically bad thing [11:30] schestowitz-TR it also increases mouse journey and collisions [11:30] schestowitz-TR but I still improvise with irrational things like "go beyond to" of screen to be to the lft [11:30] schestowitz-TR *left [11:30] schestowitz-TR I partly blame synergy [11:30] schestowitz-TR for trying to go proprietary [11:30] schestowitz-TR and partly the distros [11:30] schestowitz-TR as there is still a version of synergy that's free [11:30] schestowitz-TR but the new distros only include barrier [11:30] schestowitz-TR that leads to a split [11:32] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.it/mike34698631/status/1527155709313310720#m [11:32] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Mike-Gee (@mike34698631): "techrights.org/billwatch-res" | nitter.it [11:32] schestowitz-TR some very very old DBs (20+ years) are still of use [11:38] Techrights-sec ack [11:38] Techrights-sec Bill Watch [11:39] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [11:39] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [11:40] schestowitz-TR I reckon some of the people behind it are no longer alive [11:40] schestowitz-TR knowing their ages at the time... [11:40] schestowitz-TR Ours is the last copy, there are other such sites like "Boycott Microsoft" [11:40] schestowitz-TR But we do not have a full copy, IA should have one [11:40] schestowitz-TR one day Microsoft will cease to exist [11:40] schestowitz-TR but people will recall it wrongly [11:40] schestowitz-TR One day I will wake up to the news that Bill Gates is dead [11:40] schestowitz-TR and there will be work needed to set the record straight [11:40] schestowitz-TR the hagiographies are paid for.. for decades in advance [11:40] Techrights-sec unfortunately that twitter account is not quite the best to be associated with [11:40] Techrights-sec Yes, the last copy. [11:40] Techrights-sec It will be hard becaue the revisionists will still work hard at it because [11:40] Techrights-sec so many near him have dirty hands too. [11:43] Techrights-sec If they bury Bill, they'll need to establish a pissoir at the headstone to [11:43] Techrights-sec handle the line of people who arrive to piss on the grave in an environmentally [11:43] Techrights-sec sound manner. If they put a little water wheel on it, they might even [11:43] Techrights-sec be able to power a small light or something. [11:45] schestowitz-TR I did now check that Muskster's account [11:45] schestowitz-TR but in that site many who speak about Bill are bad to associate with [11:45] schestowitz-TR the other day's bill's guardian posted a provocative headline [11:45] schestowitz-TR I think the PR strategy is to associate all the critics with anttio-vaxxers [11:45] schestowitz-TR by provokign them [11:45] schestowitz-TR just sayin' [11:45] schestowitz-TR rich people can hire decent PR firms [11:45] schestowitz-TR they know how to play the game [11:46] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [11:47] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:47] Techrights-sec [11:47] Techrights-sec yes that is one of their strategies. [11:47] Techrights-sec As pages and sites disappear, today's people (young and the forgetful old both) will not accept what was common information in [11:47] Techrights-sec the 1990s. Most any mainstream [11:47] Techrights-sec tech journals articles on M$ or Bill from that era would be dismissed out of [11:47] Techrights-sec hand nowadays as "hate". [11:47] Techrights-sec even though the were all reporting on documented facts and, in some cases, [11:47] Techrights-sec matters of court record. [11:49] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@h6gdb3zwbkyt8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:52] schestowitz-TR today is refactoring day [11:52] schestowitz-TR don't mind me not producing many articles [11:52] schestowitz-TR I spoke to rianne about the lack of clarity on what happens later this year [11:52] schestowitz-TR but I have had some vacant monmitors [11:52] schestowitz-TR while I STILL use many virtual desktops [11:52] schestowitz-TR so it's wrong! I should not have to use any virtual desktops [11:52] schestowitz-TR at last when I woke up I could say no downtime [11:52] schestowitz-TR only the chat page in gemini was not updating [11:52] schestowitz-TR as it relies on the ddos protection loop (bad design, I know) [11:53] schestowitz-TR those should be two separate jobs, not hooked together like this [11:55] schestowitz-TR the walmart aftermath (amazon and target aftershocks, too) will be interesting [11:55] schestowitz-TR tesco yesterday did not have many people [11:55] schestowitz-TR and the discount section was "too" popular [11:55] schestowitz-TR asda car park (walmart uk) was also quite vacant [11:55] schestowitz-TR shopping stopped (standstill), sports still go on, but they're just a show for the masses ● May 19 [12:17] Techrights-sec ack [12:17] schestowitz-TR those who can afford porch time [12:17] schestowitz-TR 1) some are too stressed to do it [12:17] schestowitz-TR 2) some caught up in a job they hate 9-5 [12:17] schestowitz-TR I am still trying to lower our expenses a bit [12:17] schestowitz-TR then I can calculate a bunch of things [12:17] schestowitz-TR I really don't want to do this job full time [12:17] schestowitz-TR rianne does it part time and no longer likes it either [12:17] schestowitz-TR "This is Day 2 of "balcony sitting" - sitting out on my balcony all day, in the nice Spring weather, hammering away text on my [12:18] schestowitz-TR phone, enjoying the birds and sunshine (and rain, should it ever arrive), and just basking in the ambiance of it all." gemini: [12:18] schestowitz-TR //tmo.smol.pub/1652805235 [12:18] schestowitz-TR sometimes people realise life isn't just about "making money" [12:18] schestowitz-TR but usually they realise it when it's too late [12:18] schestowitz-TR and they run out of time/clock [12:20] Techrights-sec ack [12:20] schestowitz-TR I've just customised the xfce clock to show things more neatly with a calendar next to it [12:20] schestowitz-TR so I don't have to click on things to study weather, calendar etc. [12:20] schestowitz-TR cavan backup is OK now, I had to turn off firewall in kde neon [12:20] schestowitz-TR the scenario I am not prepared for is house fire [12:22] schestowitz-TR offsite backups have their own risk [12:22] schestowitz-TR leave with company, risk corporations and gov. [12:22] schestowitz-TR leave with a friend, worry how nosy the friend may be [12:22] schestowitz-TR I used to give a disk without the wires [12:22] schestowitz-TR and if it's ext and the friend uses Windows, snooping is extra hard [12:22] schestowitz-TR the problem is, during house move there was a loss [12:22] schestowitz-TR he does not know where it is now, but it was misplaced internally rather than stolen [12:22] schestowitz-TR so that in itself carries risk [12:23] Techrights-sec ack [12:23] Techrights-sec LUKS is probably adequate encryptioon for that [12:25] schestowitz-TR yes, but that is a very large capacity and an old drive [12:25] schestowitz-TR even if discovered now, it might not mount [12:25] schestowitz-TR like my other drive, which 2 weeks ago I turned into a brick to hold up my monitor [12:25] schestowitz-TR tbh, those 300gb drives are very small by today's standards [12:25] schestowitz-TR so they're contained (copied onto) the newer 3tb drives [12:27] Techrights-sec If yout have incremental backups for any period of time, you'll need at least [12:27] Techrights-sec 1TB or 2TB per collection / site. [12:27] Techrights-sec They're under 70 EUR for 2TB nowadays [12:27] schestowitz-TR all those posers in gulagtube wqith their home nas [12:27] schestowitz-TR and nas company-sponsored spam ("video") [12:27] schestowitz-TR they never mention offsite [12:27] schestowitz-TR 10 drives in a rack burn just as fast as one inside a laptop [12:29] schestowitz-TR (rianne cooking lasange at the moment, we got many paste sheets for 10p per pack; I think we save about [12:29] schestowitz-TR 200 pounds a month on food and the hunting/shoppign can be fun... like capture the flag) [12:29] schestowitz-TR some people in youtube turn that into a game [12:29] Techrights-sec good price [12:57] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) ● May 19 [13:48] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@6c92mmr8jwgvs.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 19 [14:06] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [14:19] schestowitz-TR ota [14:19] schestowitz-TR draft [14:20] Techrights-sec ack [14:20] Techrights-sec the parentheses are not needed, just add "with" or other preposition [14:20] Techrights-sec s/50/50 servers/ [14:20] Techrights-sec The summary could introduce the call for decentralization which is also in the [14:20] Techrights-sec conclusion [14:20] schestowitz-TR thanks, extending while video is processing [14:26] Techrights-sec "last summer (few active" -> "last summer with few active" [14:27] schestowitz-TR thanks, I'll throw in a bunch of links explaning why decentralise [14:27] Techrights-sec np [14:34] schestowitz-TR parentheses for leenode? [14:34] Techrights-sec "last summer (few active" -> "last summer with few active" [14:34] Techrights-sec np [14:34] schestowitz-TR thanks, I'll throw in a bunch of links explaning why decentralise [14:43] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:43] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:54] schestowitz-TR finalising [14:54] schestowitz-TR unique subject [14:54] schestowitz-TR imprtant [14:54] schestowitz-TR involuntary researched for it in recent days [14:54] Techrights-sec ack [14:54] schestowitz-TR nobody will cover these things [14:54] schestowitz-TR better than banal repetiotion of announcements ● May 19 [15:32] *rianne_ (~rianne@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:32] *asusbox (~rianne@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:41] schestowitz-TR Phipps on Software Patents https://blog.opensource.org/osi-to-the-european-commission-make-space-for-patent-free-standards-too/ OSI was still mostly OK when he ran it... [15:41] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.opensource.org | OSI to the European Commission: make space for patent-free standards too Voices of Open Source [15:55] schestowitz-TR With Microsoft employee inside Public Knowledge's Board it is now using Microsoft lobbyist talking points like "Big Tech" https://publicknowledge.org/new-public-knowledge-paper-outlines-how-regulation-and-antitrust-law-can-work-synergistically-to-rein-in-big-tech/ [15:55] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-publicknowledge.org | New Public Knowledge Paper Outlines How Regulation and Antitrust Law Can Work Synergistically To Rein In Big Tech - Public Knowledge ● May 19 [16:03] Techrights-sec ack [16:03] Techrights-sec it's a good statement against sw patents ● May 19 [17:09] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:09] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:15] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:18] *activelow (~activelow@tkkzj7x7ic9rs.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:18] *activelow has quit (Quit: leaving) [17:19] *activelow (~activelow@tkkzj7x7ic9rs.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:37] Techrights-sec too many people fall for FRAND meaning anything other than proprietary ● May 19 [18:56] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@zxfvcybegd478.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:56] schestowitz-TR slow news [18:56] schestowitz-TR re-orging desk [18:56] schestowitz-TR topic suggestionsd welcome [18:56] schestowitz-TR on shift till 1am ● May 19 [19:09] schestowitz-TR ack [19:09] schestowitz-TR "FRAND" is still a problem, Phipps refered to it by name but I didn't see [19:09] Techrights-sec ack [19:09] Techrights-sec "FRAND" is still a problem, Phipps refered to it by name but I didn't see [19:09] Techrights-sec him taking the term apart sufficiently though he does somewhat in the [19:09] Techrights-sec conclusion [19:09] schestowitz-TR him taking the term apart sufficiently though he does somewhat in the [19:09] schestowitz-TR conclusion [19:17] schestowitz-TR [19:14] When I quit Walmart the second time, they wanted me to sign a document containing a list of their alleged grievances against me. [19:31] schestowitz-TR good news: [19:31] schestowitz-TR there's good reason to believe TR is the reason Campinos had the temper tantrum [19:31] schestowitz-TR I have more on this [19:31] schestowitz-TR Minnoye was also openly annoyed [19:31] schestowitz-TR being a thorn on their side is good [19:31] schestowitz-TR and effective [19:32] Techrights-sec ack [19:32] Techrights-sec very good news [19:34] schestowitz-TR there are almost 7000 staff [19:34] schestowitz-TR and 38 member states [19:34] schestowitz-TR he does not know who talks to me [19:34] schestowitz-TR it could even be a managers disloyal to him [19:34] schestowitz-TR or a delegate [19:35] Techrights-sec that's also very good news [19:35] Techrights-sec not disloyal to him, but instead loyal to the EPO mission [19:35] Techrights-sec part of the reason he has to leave is that he has corrupted the top levels [19:35] schestowitz-TR like Beranas [19:35] schestowitz-TR Battistelli sent him packing [19:35] schestowitz-TR after he had warned about crowning Battistelli [19:35] Techrights-sec yes [19:36] schestowitz-TR ota in a moment [19:36] schestowitz-TR speak later or tomorrow [19:36] Techrights-sec ack [19:36] Techrights-sec afk in a while anyway [19:53] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● May 19 [21:20] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@6cmiu44urwrr2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 19 [22:52] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● May 19 [23:18] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [23:18] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@6cmiu44urwrr2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [23:56] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [23:56] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell