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| schestowitz-TR2 | gm | Aug 19 07:19 |
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| Techrights-sec | gm | Aug 19 07:19 |
| Techrights-sec | the updated posts now percolate to the top of any feed list they may be in | Aug 19 07:19 |
| Techrights-sec | (I think) | Aug 19 07:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | thanks, last night I noticed that the android leftovers rianne added while you posted the test nodes always showed asd previous of new nodes, until this morning | Aug 19 07:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | back, sorry, was 'optimising' rianne's underpowered PC | Aug 19 07:36 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I wasn't even going to mention the 'bug' | Aug 19 07:36 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I assume it's to do with the timing that page was added | Aug 19 07:36 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and it's already 'resolved' | Aug 19 07:36 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | btw, should we configure a backup procedure? I'll turn off backups for "old" soon, no point to them anymore | Aug 19 07:36 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I did run a full DB check before finalising the read-only state | Aug 19 07:36 |
| Techrights-sec | np it's still there, just behind the updates | Aug 19 07:38 |
| Techrights-sec | thanks for covering the difficult topics in TR posts and the high speed in TM | Aug 19 07:38 |
| Techrights-sec | The SQL queries for that script mark the updated records and then once the | Aug 19 07:38 |
| Techrights-sec | records are chosen, they are resorted to take their update status into account | Aug 19 07:38 |
| Techrights-sec | :) | Aug 19 07:38 |
| Techrights-sec | yes, some script which also locks the database temporarily | Aug 19 07:38 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 19 07:38 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | on root@tm-new | Aug 19 09:31 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | tmux a -t logs | Aug 19 09:31 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | top pane: gemini. middle: all combined. bottom: apache | Aug 19 09:31 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | tm-old still clocking over 200KB/sec | Aug 19 09:31 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we will depart on bicycles in about an hour, eta 2 hours later | Aug 19 09:32 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | I've just stopped the TM backup (remote) job and deletion of older backups | Aug 19 10:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the local nightly backup will still happen, but the DB won't change much, just cache tables | Aug 19 10:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I'll recover some disk space now by removing old TM backups | Aug 19 10:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | done, about 10gb of disk space recovered | Aug 19 10:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I think you already have some of these files on external media regardless | Aug 19 10:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I have selected few also | Aug 19 10:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | going to run full db check now | Aug 19 10:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | just in case | Aug 19 10:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | db is OK | Aug 19 10:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I have monitoring on tail for the mariadb log | Aug 19 10:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but that site is now in effect read-only | Aug 19 10:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | its local nightly backup supersede the previous night's backup | Aug 19 10:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so it doesn't take any additional space | Aug 19 10:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | at least we managed to endure 18+ years without data loss | Aug 19 10:35 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 19 10:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | unless susan could tell me something I don't know about | Aug 19 10:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but under our watch since 2014 no data loss | Aug 19 10:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | oh, wait... i forgot to tell you | Aug 19 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | [10:19] <techrights-news> "It is part of the It's FOSS News website and you can read it on the website as well. The news website has also got a makeover as it is | Aug 19 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | now using the Ghost framework." Moved off WordPress? Seems like a trend... https://news.itsfoss.com/foss-weekly-22-30/ | Aug 19 10:39 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.itsfoss.com | FOSS Weekly #22.30: Apt Package Management, Atomic Updates in Deepin 23 and More Linux Stuff | Aug 19 10:39 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | that explains why I saw all feed entries as suddenly unread | Aug 19 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | calling it "FOSS Weekly" might be an issue | Aug 19 10:39 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 19 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | there is already a "FLOSS Weekly" | Aug 19 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I hope there can be huge momentum OFF DB-backend CMS bloat. | Aug 19 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | as more sites declare that they do it others start exploring the same | Aug 19 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DB is a moving part that is very flaky compared to a file system | Aug 19 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DBs are expressive, but in most sites 99% of actual people request the same pages over and over again | Aug 19 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and caching in a DB or CMS is just another "moving part" | Aug 19 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's also a place where there's attack surface | Aug 19 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | hence more patching needed | Aug 19 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | more often | Aug 19 10:39 |
| Techrights-sec | yes all those moving parts are a maintenance nightmare | Aug 19 10:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I've just noticed that in TM front page even nodes last updated 17th of Aug show up on top of new nodes like GCC 12.2 | Aug 19 10:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I think it's a bug that prioritises all "modified time" pages over non-modified and newer | Aug 19 10:43 |
| Techrights-sec | were they updated? | Aug 19 10:43 |
| Techrights-sec | ok the sql queries must be tuned better. perhaps just boost the last day's | Aug 19 10:43 |
| Techrights-sec | modified files? | Aug 19 10:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I think current day's modified | Aug 19 10:45 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so it sort of resets itself at day's end | Aug 19 10:45 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and then new updates bubble their way upwards, and unless updates the next day they'll fall off it | Aug 19 10:45 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | *updated | Aug 19 10:45 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the linux kernel rc1 was updated for 3-4 days in a row and it's an important item | Aug 19 10:45 |
| Techrights-sec | that part of the sorting has to happen after the query is retrieved and is | Aug 19 10:46 |
| Techrights-sec | in the script already | Aug 19 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | d it's an important item | Aug 19 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | curiously, in gemini the order seems correct | Aug 19 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | bumped up to top of front page are only pages updated earlier today | Aug 19 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | in http/s the mesa node, the ltest addition, is about 15 from the top | Aug 19 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | i wondered for days if there was a way to leverage css selectors to highlight "updated" ones | Aug 19 10:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but short of shit like JS (jquery) is't not possible | Aug 19 10:55 |
| Techrights-sec | checking | Aug 19 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I've also just noticed that in gemini the top of the page of new pages days 2022-08-17 for things posted after that | Aug 19 11:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I am guessing that it extracts that date from somewhere external | Aug 19 11:00 |
| Techrights-sec | checking | Aug 19 11:02 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | nap now | Aug 19 16:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | btw, I noticed this morning that automatic resolution for dusplicate slug is not working anymore | Aug 19 16:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it just says slug already used, used a different one | Aug 19 16:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | also, moments ago it didn't catch " & " and converted it. Maybe related? | Aug 19 16:57 |
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| Techrights-sec | fixed, thanks for spotting the error | Aug 19 20:06 |
| Techrights-sec | ^ the slug part | Aug 19 20:06 |
| Techrights-sec | checking the & part now | Aug 19 20:06 |
| Techrights-sec | probabl fixed ... | Aug 19 20:06 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | back | Aug 19 20:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | thanks! | Aug 19 20:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | been sleeping "too much" lately | Aug 19 20:07 |
| Techrights-sec | np | Aug 19 20:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | > | Aug 19 20:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | tidied flow of text in IRC description | Aug 19 20:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Thanks | Aug 19 20:29 |
| Techrights-sec | np | Aug 19 20:41 |
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