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[03:09] *Now talking on #boycottnovell [03:09] *Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-social [03:09] *Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz!~roy@haii6za73zabc.irc at Tue Jun 1 20:22:10 2021 [03:10] *rianne (~rianne@joseon-jhg.17c.k31cok.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [03:10] *rianne_ (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:11] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:18] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@5sjysqdqbuhhc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jan 20 [04:10] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [04:10] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@zd9ersed554wu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [04:18] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:18] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:19] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [04:46] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lovelyz#2020%E2%80%932021:_Unforgettable_and_departure_from_Woollim_Entertainment [04:46] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Lovelyz - Wikipedia [04:46] schestowitz "On November 1, 2021, Woollim Entertainment announced 7 of the members, except Baby Soul, chosen not to renew their contracts which expired on November 16. Woollim Entertainment however didn't mentioned in its press release sent to news agencies on whether the group would be disbanded" [04:46] schestowitz What a shame [04:46] schestowitz their tracks were excellent. This could be the end. ● Jan 20 [05:06] schestowitz Re: Quick question: about TM submission formatting [05:07] schestowitz > Thank you! And yes, maintaining motivation can be challenging sometimes. [05:07] schestowitz > Life just keeps getting in the way. [05:07] schestowitz I've found that momentum/inertia is very important, as the mind and body tend to work like that. Like merely starting a workout to be in a workout mood/mode. [05:07] schestowitz I think Cory Doctorow said something to the effect of having to write something every day just to maintain the habit. I don't recall the exact words. [05:11] schestowitz ok, so they've definitely disbanded. What a shame. Like Spice Girls at their heights: https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/2022/01/11/entertainment/kpop/kpop-korea-Lovelyz/20220111133349782.html https://meaww.com/k-pop-lovelyzs-kei-yien-palm-tree-island-yein-sublime-artist-agency [05:11] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-koreajoongangdaily.joins.com | Former Lovelyz member Yein signs with new agency [05:11] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-meaww.com | Lovelyz's Kei signs with PalmTree Island, Yein joins Sublime Artist Agency | MEAWW [05:13] schestowitz disbanded groups, universally, seem like an ego issue [05:14] schestowitz people not willing to work together anymorea [05:14] schestowitz and all the solo careers down the drain [05:14] schestowitz maybe except destiny's child [05:14] schestowitz dr. dre [05:14] schestowitz diana ross [05:14] schestowitz michael jackson ● Jan 20 [06:00] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:09] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:09] *rianne (~rianne@joseon-jhg.17c.k31cok.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [06:09] *rianne_ (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jan 20 [07:55] Techrights-sec A second theme implied in the article is the ridicule of those who complain [07:55] Techrights-sec about 1) m$ level of access to documents, 2) m$ surveillance in general: [07:55] Techrights-sec https://www.salon.com/2022/01/17/does-lara-think-microsoft-words-clippy-assistant-is-a-real-person-and-woke_partner/ [07:55] Techrights-sec by trotting out stupid people who serve as proxies for m$ strawman arguments [07:55] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.salon.com | Does Lara Trump think Microsoft Word's Clippy assistant is a real person and "woke"? | Salon.com [07:56] schestowitz-TR yes, admfubar posted this yesterday [07:56] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:57] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:58] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) ● Jan 20 [08:03] schestowitz-TR generally, articles crafted as obvious clickbait are timewasting [08:03] schestowitz-TR so I just laugh and move on [08:03] schestowitz-TR I still need video ideas, though news is slow and meaningful [08:03] schestowitz-TR things to cover seem too few [08:03] schestowitz-TR better to produce nothing than fodder [08:05] Techrights-sec yes timewasting but nonetheless propaganda with a message for the masses [08:05] Techrights-sec news dropped over the holidays and has not / will not recover, each Christmas [08:05] Techrights-sec and summer (northern hemisphere) is an excuse for the owners to cut back [08:05] Techrights-sec further on content. [08:05] schestowitz-TR i recently asked rianne if she felt the same way and she confirmed [08:05] schestowitz-TR less news and less meaningful news, no depth [08:06] schestowitz-TR all that recent linux^H^Hmalware span is now news [08:06] schestowitz-TR it's microsoft crowdstike promoting its neew product, announced days earlier [08:06] schestowitz-TR in press releases which googlebombed "Linux" [08:07] Techrights-sec The lack of substance is an additional problem, but [08:07] Techrights-sec harder to count. A while back there was a link about the number of people [08:07] Techrights-sec employed in journalism. It is a small fraction now of what it was 40 years ago [08:07] Techrights-sec https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/07/13/u-s-newsroom-employment-has-fallen-26-since-2008/ [08:07] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.pewresearch.org | U.S. newsroom employment has fallen 26% since 2008 | Pew Research Center [08:08] Techrights-sec Google helps m$ pollute the search results, as far as I can tell. [08:12] schestowitz-TR in the long run, I think, we should try to get ppeople off the web, at least [08:12] schestowitz-TR partially or part of the time, and build alternatives [08:12] schestowitz-TR any further time wasted furnishing twitters and CAs and stuff is time wasteed [08:12] schestowitz-TR the video stuff can of course be served over any protocol [08:12] schestowitz-TR we already have the pages in multiple formats [08:12] schestowitz-TR aral balkan and timm b-l wronglly assume they can replace the broken web [08:12] schestowitz-TR with more js, which is in fact a bit part of the problem (wrt the web) [08:12] schestowitz-TR I've tried to make it easier to digest stuff also in p2p and in text editor, [08:12] schestowitz-TR command line, irc, etc. [08:12] schestowitz-TR irc logs, for example, for those who do not lurk, are now available [08:12] schestowitz-TR in 4 different formats or 3 with two protocols for the text version [08:15] Techrights-sec What is and has been needed is a stateful successor protocol to follow HTTP [08:15] Techrights-sec The core of the abuse comes from the misuse of the web browers as highly [08:15] Techrights-sec inefficient and severly insecure virtual machines. I suppose that is another of [08:15] Techrights-sec the reasons why Qt was removed from the field. It was once a way to provide [08:15] Techrights-sec cross-platform native applications. [08:15] Techrights-sec javascript is definitely part of the problem. In some ways it causes the problem [08:15] Techrights-sec [08:15] Techrights-sec What is and has been needed is a stateful successor protocol to follow HTTP [08:15] Techrights-sec The core of the abuse comes from the misuse of the web browers as highly [08:15] Techrights-sec inefficient and severly insecure virtual machines. I suppose that is another of [08:15] Techrights-sec the reasons why Qt was removed from the field. It was once a way to provide [08:15] Techrights-sec cross-platform native applications. [08:16] schestowitz-TR www in 2022 = apache [08:16] schestowitz-TR gemini in 2022 = nginx [08:16] schestowitz-TR or alpine versus the rhel- clones, which inc. Debian [08:19] Techrights-sec nginx sucks too however. [08:19] Techrights-sec and Debian is not what it once was either. I wonder if Mark Shuttleworth's [08:19] Techrights-sec act of hiring away many key developers weakened the project enough accidentally [08:19] Techrights-sec that m$ and other opponents could get in and stir things up with systemd and [08:19] Techrights-sec other wokery and thus take most of the mindshare /away/ from development and [08:19] Techrights-sec coding and onto infighting. [08:19] schestowitz-TR to what extent is the poached canonical staff contribute ';upstream' [08:19] schestowitz-TR to debian? [08:19] schestowitz-TR mir, unity etc. aside, I assume many still work on similar components [08:21] Techrights-sec I don't know, I didn't follow, but some of their arguments did spill over into [08:21] Techrights-sec the non-technical forums. [08:24] schestowitz-TR I will think if there is a topic to be coherently explained here [08:24] schestowitz-TR for now, as you said (and had struck a nerve), the audience [08:24] schestowitz-TR seems to have shrunk over the decades, I assumedue to [08:24] schestowitz-TR social control media, apps etc. [08:24] schestowitz-TR who needs journalism when you have timelines and like buttons? [08:24] schestowitz-TR and tons of energy is put into partisaan infighting, never or [08:24] schestowitz-TR rarely involving the core problem, such as the puppetmasters [08:24] schestowitz-TR of the political calls [08:24] schestowitz-TR *class [08:25] Techrights-sec What irks me the most about social control media is the public's collective [08:25] Techrights-sec inability to see how maniplation through timeline algorithms occurs. A [08:25] Techrights-sec Yes, FB and the others cause a hell of a lot of infighting. Feuds fuel clicks. [08:25] Techrights-sec Clicks == product (manipulation); click also == money (power) [08:28] Techrights-sec side issue, but relevant regardless: [08:28] Techrights-sec in the years 2016 to roughly 2019 I lost a lopt of time in those "networks" [08:28] Techrights-sec but the participation peaked in those years, I think [08:28] Techrights-sec this means that I partl;y neglected articles [08:28] Techrights-sec prior to that I had covered EPO more [08:28] Techrights-sec I think around 2019 we put together tons of code to make TR [08:28] Techrights-sec capable of doing 3000 posts a year, like in 2009 and 2010 [08:28] schestowitz-TR side issue, but relevant regardless: [08:28] schestowitz-TR in the years 2016 to roughly 2019 I lost a lopt of time in those "networks" [08:28] schestowitz-TR but the participation peaked in those years, I think [08:28] schestowitz-TR this means that I partl;y neglected articles [08:28] schestowitz-TR prior to that I had covered EPO more [08:28] schestowitz-TR I think around 2019 we put together tons of code to make TR [08:28] schestowitz-TR capable of doing 3000 posts a year, like in 2009 and 2010 [08:29] Techrights-sec +1 [08:29] Techrights-sec IRC logs still need to be automated, the last bit is WordPress in the way. [08:30] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:32] schestowitz-TR we need to rethink a bunch of things at a higher level than this [08:32] schestowitz-TR fact: a lot of geeks think creating a locally-hosted instance of [08:32] schestowitz-TR mastodom of pleroma or non-fedi thing like diaspora is the way to go [08:32] schestowitz-TR I do not agreeee [08:32] schestowitz-TR how long will they be able to maintain these for? [08:32] schestowitz-TR php versions [08:32] schestowitz-TR db issues [08:32] schestowitz-TR all this for one or few accounts [08:32] schestowitz-TR in schestowitz.com I just keep everything in bland, plain HTML [08:32] schestowitz-TR much of that site is around 20 years old [08:32] schestowitz-TR wordpress is still going, but not in the right trajectory [08:32] schestowitz-TR afaik, there are no potent forks either [08:32] schestowitz-TR unless you wish to be orphaned within a year or two [08:32] schestowitz-TR (there were wordpress forks in the past) [08:34] Techrights-sec Too much maintenance and other overhead in having a mastodon instance. [08:34] Techrights-sec As mentioned, I figure WP must be jetisoned. The old pages can be static. [08:34] Techrights-sec The downside is that the old pages cannot then (for all practical purposes) [08:34] Techrights-sec be updated to link to relevant current pages and topics. However, it would [08:34] Techrights-sec save a lot of resources to do that. Hugo or jekyll? Not much more is needed [08:34] Techrights-sec than a templating system. (famous last words) [08:35] Techrights-sec you can still update them, but a good CMS would be needed [08:35] Techrights-sec but then, you renew a reliance on another CMS [08:35] schestowitz-TR you can still update them, but a good CMS would be needed [08:35] schestowitz-TR but then, you renew a reliance on another CMS [08:35] Techrights-sec yes relying on another CMS is not so good, relying on a homegrown one might [08:35] Techrights-sec be even worse... [08:36] schestowitz-TR in gemini we already saw how an OS upgrade 'broke' the logging daemon (yes, I can run it interactively from the CLI) [08:39] schestowitz-TR but at least we are crafting and then sharing things in an area [08:39] schestowitz-TR where code is mostly absent (for now) for a lot of task [08:39] schestowitz-TR contrast to the web, where like a thousand frameworks exist ofor the same [08:39] schestowitz-TR tak and you hardlky even know the names of the vast majority of these [08:39] Techrights-sec ack [08:42] schestowitz-TR let me throw an idea out there [08:42] schestowitz-TR provided we wait a little longer [08:42] schestowitz-TR we can make gemini primary, using a hand-crafted gateway [08:42] schestowitz-TR and then have a "legacy" html version with images and attachments and all [08:42] schestowitz-TR both get indexed [08:42] schestowitz-TR legacy as in static, archived [08:43] schestowitz-TR > in gemini we already saw how an OS upgrade 'broke' the logging daemon (yes, I c [08:43] schestowitz-TR an run it interactively from the CLI) [08:43] schestowitz-TR iow, ad hoc things done today might not work smoothly tomorrow [08:43] schestowitz-TR but at least we are crafting and then sharing things in an area [08:43] schestowitz-TR where code is mostly absent (for now) for a lot of task [08:43] schestowitz-TR contrast to the web, where like a thousand frameworks exist ofor the same [08:43] schestowitz-TR tak and you hardlky even know the names of the vast majority of these [08:44] Techrights-sec ack [08:44] Techrights-sec The images are not so hard to collect but the videos are very large. [08:53] schestowitz-TR if only i knew more about youtube, i'd know how to coinvince people to get [08:54] schestowitz-TR off it [08:54] schestowitz-TR for now, I can better explain social control media like twitter [08:54] schestowitz-TR (not fb) [08:54] schestowitz-TR and why the web sucks and needs to be replaced [08:57] Techrights-sec the web was very briefly approaching improvement with XHTML4 and CSS2 [08:57] Techrights-sec then javasript and the rest happened. [08:57] schestowitz-TR you 'left out' xml/rss/atom [08:57] schestowitz-TR also, to e, all those js "frameworks" are the new activescript [08:57] schestowitz-TR and eme is like "protected content" in Trash [08:57] schestowitz-TR because w3c must adapt to suit hollywood [08:57] schestowitz-TR not the other way around ● Jan 20 [09:01] schestowitz-TR btw, some pro-patent sites have been perishing [09:01] schestowitz-TR they think they need a site overhaul [09:01] schestowitz-TR so they invest in changes without first realising what [09:01] schestowitz-TR the hell is going on [09:01] schestowitz-TR and why their audience has walked away [09:01] schestowitz-TR as a topic, patents are again slippijng out of the public vista [09:01] schestowitz-TR publishers' manguish is sometimes addressing yesterday issues [09:01] schestowitz-TR like running a site about novell in 2022 [09:02] Techrights-sec Yes, keeping the old link structure is very important, at least for the old [09:02] Techrights-sec posts. That's doable in several ways. [09:02] Techrights-sec I'd say part of that is due to the patents being a exacerbating factor in the [09:02] Techrights-sec SARS-CoV-2 pandemic. [09:02] Techrights-sec ' [09:05] Techrights-sec It's probably their way of appearing active but with out actually having to [09:05] Techrights-sec cover anything of substance. They're probably also afraid of the fact that [09:05] Techrights-sec any topic addressed even superficially is going to tread on Bill's toes. [09:06] schestowitz-TR IAM changed its logo, still not producing much and there's a paywall. I doubt many pay. They used to raise money from "events". [09:07] *psydroid4 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:12] Techrights-sec They are mostly disinformation there as far as I know. [09:13] schestowitz-TR yes, btw, today's automated feeds are missing from the combined file [09:27] schestowitz
  • [09:27] schestowitz
    How to use the new dislike-less Youtube
    [09:27] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.dedoimedo.com/life/youtube-dislike-count-how-to-use.html">How ) [09:27] schestowitz
    [09:27] schestowitz

    You must have heard. There is a new episode of Internet drama! Youtube has decided to remove the Dislike counter from under the video playback frame. This means that people, at a glance, do not have a way of knowing how many dislikes a particular video has received in its lifetime, and more importantly, the like-to-dislike ratio, which is commonly used to quickly estimate the "quality" of video clips. Seems like we [09:27] schestowitz have a problem. But wait.

    • [09:32] Techrights-sec I'll check the automated feeds... [09:32] Techrights-sec ok, it was missing a module, I've re-uploaded. Thanks for spotting that. [09:32] Techrights-sec I'll add in an error check now. [09:33] schestowitz-TR thanks, will refetch when done with current version, then will remove munually curated and "other" [09:45] Techrights-sec The error check will be a challenge since [09:45] Techrights-sec the automated links are gathered in parallel. [09:45] Techrights-sec Worked out a trick that functions in POSIX shell. [09:51] Techrights-sec wait has to have the PIDs of [09:51] Techrights-sec the background processes in order to return the overall succes or failure. [09:51] Techrights-sec In POSIX an array can't be used but a string built up of the PIDs works. [09:51] Techrights-sec Not quite. Still working. [09:54] schestowitz-TR OK, no hurry. Assuming other links and the manual (top) part have not been extended since the first/initial upload, I can disregard these when retrieving the latest upload [09:54] Techrights-sec Correct ● Jan 20 [10:02] *rianne_ (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:02] *rianne (~rianne@joseon-jhg.17c.k31cok.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [10:03] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:03] Techrights-sec Ok patched now. [10:05] schestowitz-TR lately I have managed to do 3 batches of Daily Links per say, [10:05] schestowitz-TR maybe to sort of make up for the lack of stories I can produce [10:05] schestowitz-TR not only due to the time spent on the pi [10:21] *spazzz is now known as spazz [10:37] Techrights-sec ack [10:37] Techrights-sec Michael Giest's feed seems to have disappeared [10:37] Techrights-sec ^Geist [10:37] schestowitz-TR so he JoinedTheClub(R) [10:38] schestowitz-TR the rely-on-some-selfish-company-to-know-what-i-say club [10:38] Techrights-sec also his lastest post on his actual web site is from mid December [10:38] Techrights-sec I'll comment out his feed for now. [10:39] schestowitz-TR a bit less important, but... back around 2009 he was a superstar in his area of practice/law, and was often invited as an expert internationally [10:39] schestowitz-TR even billBC would give him space [10:39] schestowitz-TR other papers too [10:39] schestowitz-TR then he sort of vanished, almost.. [10:40] schestowitz-TR when I got back to his site I found little remnants of what used to be [10:40] schestowitz-TR there are some EU politicians who msimilarly vanished [10:40] schestowitz-TR techdirt used to be super-active in this area [10:40] schestowitz-TR but techdirt changed focus and topics a great deal [10:40] schestowitz-TR sometimes it's like salon.com [10:42] schestowitz https://www.legislature.ohio.gov/legislation/legislation-summary?id=GA134-HB-441 [10:42] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.legislature.ohio.gov | House Bill 441 | The Ohio Legislature [10:42] schestowitz "We cant connect to the server at www.legislature.ohio.gov." [10:43] schestowitz-TR the server can access it, I cannot [10:44] Techrights-sec I probably should check techdirt from time to time again. [10:44] Techrights-sec blocked in the UK? What about a proxy? [10:45] Techrights-sec blocked in the UK? What about a proxy? [10:45] Techrights-sec UK is not EU :P Seriously though it is likely blocked for Europe [10:45] schestowitz-TR maybe not mblocked IN the UK [10:45] schestowitz-TR maybe they block EU [10:47] Techrights-sec I'm getting a DNS error via the normal route. [10:49] schestowitz-TR so my guess is, [10:49] schestowitz-TR some American DNS servers have an entry for the subsite [10:49] schestowitz-TR whereas some of the European ones lack it [10:49] schestowitz-TR but that does not make sense [10:49] schestowitz-TR DNS does not propagandta like this [10:49] schestowitz-TR unless you are somewhere like Iran [10:49] schestowitz-TR *propagate [10:52] Techrights-sec The net is being balkanized on purpose. The Internet is too dangerous for the [10:52] Techrights-sec world's oligarchies. Notice also the trend not to name The Internet any more [10:52] Techrights-sec by many, but instead refer to the internet, which is a subset or even unrelated [10:52] Techrights-sec to The Internet. [10:52] schestowitz-TR ack [10:53] schestowitz-TR on another topic, raspi based on debian 11 does not let me disable screen dim-down (blink they call it iirc) without a reboot. why? is this windows? [10:53] Techrights-sec GMail doesn't even communicate properly (or at all) with all other mail providers [10:54] Techrights-sec gmail sounds like email [10:54] Techrights-sec i should refer to it as gulagmail [10:54] schestowitz-TR gmail sounds like email [10:54] schestowitz-TR i should refer to it as gulagmail [10:54] schestowitz-TR inside the gulag, you msy or may not receive your mail. The ward decides... [10:58] Techrights-sec yep, and they seem to be working to cut out other providers in the process [10:58] schestowitz-TR the latest of many (that I saw) to moan about it was Sandler of SFC [10:59] schestowitz-TR for over 10 years bellsouth has blocked my mail relay [10:59] schestowitz-TR no idea why [10:59] schestowitz-TR it's the on;y such domain that I know of [10:59] schestowitz-TR this caused me a lot of problems; lost mail, offended relatives in FL ● Jan 20 [11:01] Techrights-sec I'm starting to notice with various communications. It is not consistent [11:01] Techrights-sec across the service but varies from account to account on both ends. [11:18] schestowitz-TR i still lack topic ideas for articles/videos [11:18] schestowitz-TR :( [11:23] Techrights-sec thinking [11:23] Techrights-sec more generally, the above problem of balkanization is caused and enabled by a [11:23] Techrights-sec the current move away from open standards. I bet a case could be made for each [11:23] Techrights-sec of the large tech companies that they have each been trying EEE in different [11:23] Techrights-sec markets, the ones where they may be large enough to capture the whole thing. [11:23] Techrights-sec Amazon is very non-standard, as are the other "cloud" providers. It's hard [11:23] Techrights-sec to call them hosting providers since they have so many proprietary hoops to [11:23] Techrights-sec jump through just to get at a shell prompt. [11:24] schestowitz-TR amazon is censorship of vendors [11:24] schestowitz-TR along with ebay etc. [11:24] schestowitz-TR the lawyers prefer it that way [11:24] schestowitz-TR for the "brand owners" [11:25] schestowitz-TR rant: with some exceptipons such as cory d, eff increasingly sounds [11:25] schestowitz-TR like microsoft apologist if not mircrosoft itserlf [11:26] schestowitz-TR they even use the same terms now [11:27] schestowitz https://thenewstack.io/roasting-the-consumer-electronics-shows-worst-products/ [11:27] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-thenewstack.io | Roasting the Consumer Electronics Shows Worst Products The New Stack [11:28] schestowitz-TR zoom [11:28] Techrights-sec Yes, the EFF has been that way for a while. I wonder if Cory can have any [11:28] Techrights-sec effect there. I'm not sure how the m$ apologists got in but they're there [11:28] Techrights-sec spouting all the m$ talking points. e.g. "Meet people where they are" rather [11:28] Techrights-sec than steering the public to potentially more secure options than m$ [11:33] schestowitz-TR eff in a nutshell: [11:33] schestowitz-TR geek: i always get upset about computing getting all hostile [11:33] schestowitz-TR management: yes, it always upsets me when the apple store [something something] [11:33] schestowitz-TR also eff: [11:33] schestowitz-TR activist: the plutocrats are trying to silence journaliusts [11:33] schestowitz-TR eff plants: yes, putin mouthpiece assange needs to be gagged [11:33] Techrights-sec ack [11:38] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@389qztengum92.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:39] Techrights-sec I hope Cory is not just a token freedom proponent for the microsofters to [11:39] Techrights-sec hide behind [11:39] schestowitz-TR you hope, but you've just dubbed what he is to them, like others before him [11:39] schestowitz-TR Guardian has many "tokens" [11:39] Techrights-sec Yes I've noticed [11:42] schestowitz-TR afaik, vera, daniel, alex and another patent person whose name I forgot [11:42] schestowitz-TR were gone the moment mark cuban was not paying fsf [11:42] schestowitz-TR to advvance his agenda against "bad patents" [11:42] schestowitz-TR some moved to a think called "engine' [11:42] schestowitz-TR some were in ppatentprogress (CCIA) [11:42] schestowitz-TR which feels defunct [11:42] schestowitz-TR r streee institute (paul iirc) was scooped into something else [11:42] schestowitz-TR so when looking at my rss feeds there is little left bby [11:42] schestowitz-TR spam from law firms percolating via the parent company [11:42] schestowitz-TR of IAM [11:42] schestowitz-TR *I meant eff, not fsf [11:43] Techrights-sec Yes 'bad' patents are a distraction [11:43] Techrights-sec apropos standards and breaking open standards: [11:43] Techrights-sec https://social.chinwag.org/@mike/107651459435080448 [11:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-social.chinwag.org | Mike, First of His Name: "I've been dreading this moment. https://www.andr" - Chinwag Social [11:47] Techrights-sec ack [11:53] Techrights-sec farming the populace's "emitted behaviors" [11:54] schestowitz-TR no need to even directly 'monetise' it when the US gov takes 10 trillion in loans in 3 years and pumps it into the bank accounts of (mostly) the rich [11:54] schestowitz-TR I checked again the latest numbers this morning [11:54] schestowitz-TR bankrupting the nation like the Soviet Army ● Jan 20 [12:02] Techrights-sec ack [12:03] schestowitz-TR tesla: we make almost a profit (same for Uber), the media is on our side (greenwashing), we have tons of competition from "old" car companies (they do evolve), but we are worth [sum] and based on this speculative value our NON-founder (faker) is worth [sum], so celebrate, peasants! 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