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roy-on-ted-boxhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/1240918820811923456Mar 20 08:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: @BVerfG UPC is finished. Bye, UPCA. https://t.co/bxXDJ4aBu7Mar 20 08:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Germany’s FCC and Its Decision on UPC May Not Matter Much Anymore (and the Government in Berlin Knows That) (Updated) | TechrightsMar 20 08:47
roy-on-ted-boxhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/1240919330239414273Mar 20 08:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: @BVerfG English: https://t.co/iEf0O5pO1zMar 20 08:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> translate.google.co.uk | Google TranslateMar 20 08:47
roy-on-ted-boxhttps://twitter.com/UPCtrackerMar 20 08:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mobile.twitter.com | Thomas Adam (@UPCtracker) on TwitterMar 20 08:50
roy-on-ted-box"Mar 20 08:50
roy-on-ted-boxFull decision (in German only) here: https://www.bundesverfassungsgericht.de/SharedDocs/Entscheidungen/DE/2020/02/rs20200213_2bvr073917.htmlMar 20 08:50
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.bundesverfassungsgericht.de | Bundesverfassungsgericht - Entscheidungen - Gesetz zum Abkommen über ein Einheitliches Patentgericht nichtigMar 20 08:50
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roy-on-ted-box Thomas Adam‏ @UPCtracker  11m11 minutes ago Mar 20 08:50
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roy-on-ted-box The request for a preliminary injunction (stopping the President to sign the implementing act) is moot.Mar 20 08:50
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roy-on-ted-box Thomas Adam‏ @UPCtracker  13m13 minutes ago Mar 20 08:51
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roy-on-ted-box order, a law cannot be enacted when it does not achieve this majority. Thus, the Bundestag did not effectively pass the Act of Approval. It is void." ENDMar 20 08:51
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roy-on-ted-box Thomas Adam‏ @UPCtracker  13m13 minutes ago Mar 20 08:51
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roy-on-ted-box From PR: "4. The Act of Approval had to be adopted by a qualified majority pursuant to Art. 79(2) GG. In view of the particular importance of the majority requirement for the integrity of the Constitution and the democratic legitimation of interferences with the constitutional /2Mar 20 08:51
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roy-on-ted-box Thomas Adam‏ @UPCtracker  14m14 minutes ago Mar 20 08:51
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roy-on-ted-box Dissenting opinions by 3 judges, namely Ms. König, Ms. Langenfeld and Mr. MaidowskiMar 20 08:51
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roy-on-ted-box Thomas Adam‏ @UPCtracker  15m15 minutes ago Mar 20 08:51
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roy-on-ted-box Decision based on formal issue of missing quorum im German Bundestag when passing the legislation (2 BvR 739/17).Mar 20 08:51
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roy-on-ted-box Thomas Adam‏ @UPCtracker  17m17 minutes ago Mar 20 08:51
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roy-on-ted-box #UPC DE Constitutional Court allows the UPC complaint and declares DE implementing act unconsitutional (2 BvR 739/17). Details to follow. https://www.bundesverfassungsgericht.de/SharedDocs/Pressemitteilungen/EN/2020/bvg20-020.htmlMar 20 08:51
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roy-on-ted-box Thomas Adam RetweetedMar 20 08:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.bundesverfassungsgericht.de | Bundesverfassungsgericht - Press - Act of Approval to the Agreement on a Unified Patent Court is voidMar 20 08:51
roy-on-ted-box BVerfG‏Verified account @BVerfG  19m19 minutes ago Mar 20 08:51
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roy-on-ted-box #BVerfG Act of Approval to the Agreement on a Unified Patent Court is void http://www.bverfg.de/EN/bvg20-020 Mar 20 08:51
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roy-on-ted-boxhttps://twitter.com/UPCtracker/status/1240923615773802496Mar 20 08:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@UPCtracker: No standing of complainant (and complaint insofar impermissible) as far as he alleges a possible violation of his r… https://t.co/ggobONytCjMar 20 08:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@UPCtracker: No standing of complainant (and complaint insofar impermissible) as far as he alleges a possible violation of his r… https://t.co/ggobONytCjMar 20 08:51
roy-on-ted-box"No standing of complainant (and complaint insofar impermissible) as far as he alleges a possible violation of his right under Artt. 38 (1) 1st sentence in conjunction w 20(1), (2) in conjunction w 79(3) of the Basic Law, as far as he submitts that implementing act is in breach /2"Mar 20 08:51
roy-on-ted-boxhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/1240918820811923456Mar 20 08:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: @BVerfG UPC is finished. Bye, UPCA. https://t.co/bxXDJ4aBu7Mar 20 08:52
roy-on-ted-boxhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/1240919330239414273Mar 20 08:52
roy-on-ted-boxhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/1240918820811923456Mar 20 08:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Germany’s FCC and Its Decision on UPC May Not Matter Much Anymore (and the Government in Berlin Knows That) (Updated) | TechrightsMar 20 08:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: @BVerfG English: https://t.co/iEf0O5pO1zMar 20 08:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> translate.google.co.uk | Google TranslateMar 20 08:52
roy-on-ted-boxhttps://twitter.com/BVerfG/status/1240918833482944512Mar 20 08:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BVerfG: #BVerfG Act of Approval to the Agreement on a Unified Patent Court is void https://t.co/7Lv61ndJ97Mar 20 08:52
roy-on-ted-box"Mar 20 08:52
roy-on-ted-boxUPC was all along illegal in a lot if not all nations. It was a coup of then litigation 'industry'.Mar 20 08:52
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roy-on-ted-box Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)‏ @schestowitz  15m15 minutes ago Mar 20 08:52
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roy-on-ted-box Thank you, Justice Huber, for doing the right thing in the face of great pressure if not harassment from the litigation 'industry'Mar 20 08:52
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roy-on-ted-boxEnd of conversationMar 20 08:52
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roy-on-ted-box CIPAPatentsCommittee‏ @TheCIPAPatCom  11m11 minutes ago Mar 20 08:52
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roy-on-ted-boxReplying to @BVerfG @TimJacksonBrisMar 20 08:52
roy-on-ted-boxGerman Federal Constitutional Court holds that a two-thirds majority is needed to ratify the UPC.Mar 20 08:52
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roy-on-ted-box Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)‏ @schestowitz  9m9 minutes ago Mar 20 08:52
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roy-on-ted-box IOW: UPCA is dead.Mar 20 08:52
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roy-on-ted-box Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)‏ @schestowitz  7m7 minutes ago Mar 20 08:53
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roy-on-ted-box See update at  topMar 20 08:53
roy-on-ted-box"Mar 20 08:53
roy-on-ted-boxhttps://twitter.com/UPCtracker/status/1240923752738836481Mar 20 08:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@UPCtracker: of concept of constitutional identity (“Verfassungsidentität”) because (a) the legal status of judges is insufficie… https://t.co/kdIqJm60ZjMar 20 08:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@UPCtracker: of concept of constitutional identity (“Verfassungsidentität”) because (a) the legal status of judges is insufficie… https://t.co/kdIqJm60ZjMar 20 08:54
roy-on-ted-box"of concept of constitutional identity (“Verfassungsidentität”) because (a) the legal status of judges is insufficiently regulated under the rule of law, (b) encroachments on fundamental rights by UPC were not sufficiently legitimised by law and the (c) UPCA violated Union law."Mar 20 08:54
roy-on-ted-boxhttps://twitter.com/JNurt/status/1240921434123370497Mar 20 08:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@JNurt: @UPCtracker Thanks for the explanation Thomas. So does that mean the Bundestag could reconsider the Act of Approval… https://t.co/3akQqK82BjMar 20 08:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@JNurt: @UPCtracker Thanks for the explanation Thomas. So does that mean the Bundestag could reconsider the Act of Approval… https://t.co/3akQqK82BjMar 20 08:55
roy-on-ted-box"Thanks for the explanation Thomas. So does that mean the Bundestag could reconsider the Act of Approval and try to pass it with the required majority?"Mar 20 08:55
roy-on-ted-boxAt 1AM again?Mar 20 08:55
roy-on-ted-boxSaddened? It was illegal. On many levels.Mar 20 08:57
roy-on-ted-boxhttp://techrights.org/2020/03/19/bundesverfassungsgericht-upc-decision/Mar 20 08:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Germany’s FCC and Its Decision on UPC May Not Matter Much Anymore (and the Government in Berlin Knows That) (Updated) | TechrightsMar 20 08:57
roy-on-ted-boxhttps://twitter.com/Alexjdwilson/status/1240924618787094528Mar 20 08:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Alexjdwilson: As a dual UK/German patent lawyer I am saddened to see that both of my countries are responsible for blows to the U… https://t.co/phT9y1XnUfMar 20 08:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Alexjdwilson: As a dual UK/German patent lawyer I am saddened to see that both of my countries are responsible for blows to the U… https://t.co/phT9y1XnUfMar 20 08:57
schestowitz__>> See update at  topMar 20 09:14
schestowitz__>>Mar 20 09:14
schestowitz__>> http://techrights.org/2020/03/19/bundesverfassungsgericht-upc-decision/Mar 20 09:14
schestowitz__> Yes!  Thanks for the work you've been putting in over the years on this.Mar 20 09:14
schestowitz__>  Let's make sure it is acknowledged dead by its proponents and that itMar 20 09:14
schestowitz__> stays dead.Mar 20 09:14
schestowitz__I will be collecting responses without surrendering to the temptation to do a Nelson's (Simpsons) "HAHA!"Mar 20 09:14
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roy-on-ted-boxhttps://twitter.com/UPCtracker/status/1240926773573017600Mar 20 09:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@UPCtracker: @schestowitz @Alexjdwilson As a (one time) courtesy: a)no - I am just a chronicler. b)DE Constitutional Ct consider… https://t.co/Fe8jaDqIVxMar 20 09:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@UPCtracker: @schestowitz @Alexjdwilson As a (one time) courtesy: a)no - I am just a chronicler. b)DE Constitutional Ct consider… https://t.co/Fe8jaDqIVxMar 20 09:26
roy-on-ted-box"As a (one time) courtesy: a)no - I am just a chronicler. b)DE Constitutional Ct considered implementing act unconstitutional for formal reasons (quorum in Bundestag; mendable if politically wanted) only (even that with 3 dissenters). All other attacks are declared inadmissible."Mar 20 09:26
roy-on-ted-boxThere are grounds for further complaints, e.g. AETRMar 20 09:26
roy-on-ted-boxhttps://twitter.com/Loeffel_Abrar/status/1240926182796902400Mar 20 09:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Loeffel_Abrar: @juveVerlag_Gr @Mat_Struwe Why "No"? cf. https://t.co/6akIln64ZGMar 20 09:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: @BVerfG UPC is finished. Bye, UPCA. https://t.co/bxXDJ4aBu7Mar 20 09:26
roy-on-ted-boxhttps://twitter.com/Mat_Struwe/status/1240920501612142592Mar 20 09:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Mat_Struwe: #UPC ist tot. Das Gesetz zu dem Übereinkommen über ein Einheitliches #Patentgericht (EPGÜ-ZustG), das Hoheitsrechte… https://t.co/Ck8jfAX4fyMar 20 09:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Mat_Struwe: #UPC ist tot. Das Gesetz zu dem Übereinkommen über ein Einheitliches #Patentgericht (EPGÜ-ZustG), das Hoheitsrechte… https://t.co/Ck8jfAX4fyMar 20 09:27
roy-on-ted-box"Mar 20 09:27
roy-on-ted-boxMatthias Struwe Retweeted BVerfGMar 20 09:27
roy-on-ted-box#UPC ist tot. Das Gesetz zu dem Übereinkommen über ein Einheitliches #Patentgericht (EPGÜ-ZustG), das Hoheitsrechte auf das Einheitliche Patentgericht übertragen soll, ist nichtig. #PatentrechtMatthias Struwe added,Mar 20 09:27
roy-on-ted-boxBVerfGVerified account @BVerfGMar 20 09:27
roy-on-ted-box#BVerfG Gesetz zum Abkommen über ein Einheitliches Patentgericht nichtig http://www.bverfg.de/DE/bvg20-020 Mar 20 09:27
roy-on-ted-boxTranslated from German by MicrosoftMar 20 09:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.bundesverfassungsgericht.de | Bundesverfassungsgericht - Presse - Gesetz zum Abkommen über ein Einheitliches Patentgericht nichtigMar 20 09:27
roy-on-ted-box#UPC is dead. The Law on the Convention on a Unified #Patentgericht(EPDC-ZustG), which is intended to transfer sovereign rights to the Unified Patent Court, is null and void. #PatentrechtMar 20 09:27
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roy-on-ted-box There are grounds for further complaints, e.g. AETRMar 20 09:27
roy-on-ted-boxhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1240920079027654656Mar 20 09:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz @FOSSpatents https://t.co/0AMuuMrD7YMar 20 09:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.bundesverfassungsgericht.de | Bundesverfassungsgericht - Press - Act of Approval to the Agreement on a Unified Patent Court is voidMar 20 09:27
roy-on-ted-boxyes, published a few minutes laterMar 20 09:27
roy-on-ted-boxhttps://twitter.com/gael_duval/status/1240934487674019840Mar 20 09:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gael_duval: Driving fast to a Surveillance world... https://t.co/bDwxKqWjzBMar 20 09:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #surveillance and #listeningDevices fast becoming even more malicious than they already were… https://t.co/8GKLyJDWweMar 20 09:36
schestowitz__iophk: "Stock buybacks, also calls share repurchases, are not just a legal form of embezzlement but also fraud.  They raise the share price independent of the actual value of the company which may actually be undergoing a decrease but which becomes hidden by the buyback."Mar 20 09:42
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1240936921771237376Mar 20 09:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz Don't sell the bear skin before you kill it. Ne pas vendre la peau de l'ours avant de l'avoir tué.Mar 20 09:53
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/Zz1pp/status/1240937594545827843Mar 20 09:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Zz1pp: @schestowitz Acutely observedMar 20 09:54
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