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[07:27] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:27] schestowitz-TR gm [07:27] schestowitz-TR got camelcase [07:27] schestowitz-TR btw, seems like sam's feed at itwire is no longer filled with the obligatory webspam ('articles') and [07:27] schestowitz-TR is just his own [07:27] schestowitz-TR based on the past week [07:29] Techrights-sec gm [07:29] Techrights-sec it's still worth dealing with ITWire manually since although it does have [07:29] Techrights-sec some really good articles from time to time, for the most part it is tri[e [07:29] Techrights-sec ^trip [07:29] Techrights-sec ^tripe [07:29] schestowitz-TR yes, I associate them with the tripe [07:29] schestowitz-TR that's their "business model" [07:50] Techrights-sec though as mentioned several times Sam's articles tend to be good and then [07:50] Techrights-sec there are occasionally others too ● May 20 [08:06] schestowitz-TR Curious: how do you feel since stoping to scroll through mastodon blobs looking for "toots"? [08:06] schestowitz-TR "algo speak" is partly outrage speak or clickbair speak [08:06] schestowitz-TR looking to get noticed in a sea of billions of daily mindfarts with little actual contribution to human [08:06] schestowitz-TR knowledge [08:07] Techrights-sec in a word, better [08:07] Techrights-sec less stress [08:07] Techrights-sec I still scan for URLs abotu once a week but if the entry does not have an [08:07] Techrights-sec obvious URL, I don't read it [08:08] schestowitz-TR No URL -> no reference -> usually just some random though that cannot be verified [08:08] schestowitz-TR "number of likes" does not mean likelihood of accuracy [08:08] schestowitz-TR sometimes it means the opposite [08:08] schestowitz-TR it is "outrage score [08:08] Techrights-sec exactly [08:08] Techrights-sec yes "engagement" does not relate to veracity or relevance. [08:09] schestowitz-TR "not that I got your attention," says the unlothed person... [08:10] Techrights-sec I should probably check sometime in the next few days, but really don't feel [08:10] Techrights-sec like wasting that time [08:12] schestowitz-TR in 2009-2010 we had an identi.ca bot in IRC [08:12] schestowitz-TR It wouls coop up people like Moody and Greve [08:12] schestowitz-TR Then, when posting IRC logs (we've done this since 2008) I'd click on LINKS they post [08:12] schestowitz-TR and consider them as RSS feed equivalent [08:12] schestowitz-TR but I found that overwhelming at times [08:12] schestowitz-TR as that was a lot of links, even back then [08:12] schestowitz-TR but curated at least [08:12] Techrights-sec Glyn Moody writes quite well and always on relevant and interesting topics [08:12] Techrights-sec but does not have a central place where one can find what he has written [08:12] Techrights-sec so it is hard to know where and when he has written [08:13] schestowitz-TR Open dot dot dot... [08:13] schestowitz-TR He used to post there a daily roundup of his quips, or maybe that's a seperate blog [08:13] schestowitz-TR If the latter, I'm quit sure he stopped maintaining it >5 years ago [08:13] schestowitz-TR he never had a site of his own, AFAIK [08:13] schestowitz-TR GoogleSpot was the cloest thing [08:14] Techrights-sec https://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com [08:14] Techrights-sec that;s only his personal writings not his paid work [08:14] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-opendotdotdot.blogspot.com | open... [08:15] schestowitz-TR he already lost his spot at Linux Journal [08:15] schestowitz-TR He lost Gulag+ [08:15] schestowitz-TR He lost Diaspora [08:15] schestowitz-TR He lost Identica [08:15] schestowitz-TR Musk Social is left [08:15] schestowitz-TR and maybe some "toot" thing... [08:15] schestowitz-TR Maybe [08:16] Techrights-sec :/ [08:16] Techrights-sec https://mastodon.social/@glynmoody [08:16] Techrights-sec no work-related writings there either [08:16] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Glyn Moody (@glynmoody@mastodon.social) - Mastodon [08:17] schestowitz-TR he chose the mega-instance, mastodon.'social' [08:17] schestowitz-TR known for restrictions on speech [08:19] schestowitz-TR fyi suepo is escalating [08:19] schestowitz-TR and will enhance the actions [08:19] schestowitz-TR it's confirmed to me techrights caused the ourage [08:19] schestowitz-TR I put some details in irc [08:20] schestowitz-TR not in the blog [08:20] schestowitz-TR boasting/bragging is a weakness [08:20] schestowitz-TR and a risk/liability [08:20] schestowitz-TR so I left that out of last night's articles [08:20] schestowitz-TR eventually it's team upc losing its cool [08:20] schestowitz-TR and looking like a bunch of ogres [08:20] schestowitz " The inflation in the Netherlands of 11.2% and in Germany of 7.8% over the last 12 months accounts for far more than a double step reward (on average 1 step equals 2%). Less than 60% of eligible staff (actually less than 50% of all staff) may receive a single step let alone a double step this year. This is the worst year in the career of EPO staff which comes at the time when staff worked diligently through the worst pandemic of the century and [08:20] schestowitz the worst inflation since the EPO inception." [08:23] Techrights-sec ack [08:23] Techrights-sec Does SUEPO have a concise summary for outsiders on their site, yet? [08:23] Techrights-sec It would go a long way to be able to point to the original source from time [08:23] Techrights-sec to time. [08:24] schestowitz-TR the site helps the union communicate with its members [08:32] Techrights-sec yes but there ought to be at least a little outward communication [08:35] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [08:35] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:40] Techrights-sec by the way, Glyn's books have been quite good, [08:40] Techrights-sec "Digital Code of Life: How Bioinformatics is Revolutionizing Science, Medicine, and Business by Glyn Moody" was hard to get aho [08:40] Techrights-sec ld of though [08:40] Techrights-sec Apparently there is not much market for books any more [08:40] Techrights-sec "Rebel Code: Linux and the Open Source Revolution" is more relevant than ever [08:40] Techrights-sec but the younger generations who need that message can't/don't read anything [08:40] Techrights-sec longer that a "tweet" [08:40] schestowitz-TR when did you last sit in a queue and saw a kid reading a physical book [08:40] schestowitz-TR rather than mess around with some "phone"? [08:41] Techrights-sec Must be ove a decade. [08:41] Techrights-sec A couple of years ago I helped one kid find a book for a book report. He wa [08:41] Techrights-sec was supposedly a top student but whined and struggled with a ~ 100 page [08:41] Techrights-sec novella, I figure he probably used the LibriVox edition rather than the [08:41] Techrights-sec paperback I loaned him. But I haven't even heard second hand of anyone under [08:41] Techrights-sec 40 or so reading anything, whether an ebook or a real book. [08:41] Techrights-sec Some will listen to podcasts and such but give equal weight to those as to [08:41] Techrights-sec well researched works. However most seem to be "engaged" in tiktok or whatsapp [08:41] Techrights-sec or similar empty timewasters. [08:42] schestowitz-TR BIAB WORKOUT [08:42] schestowitz-TR (oops, caps) [08:46] Techrights-sec ack ● May 20 [10:04] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [10:04] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:39] Techrights-sec over the past few weeks there have been several links from ec.europa.eu [10:39] Techrights-sec regarding patents and,potentially, software patents, if you are looking for [10:39] Techrights-sec such material, those can warrant a close look [10:39] Techrights-sec https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-say/initiatives/13109-Intellectual-property-new-framework-for-standard-essential-patents/feedback_en?p_id=28414115 [10:39] Techrights-sec The opportunity for feedback closed 9 May, so that has come and gone [10:39] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ec.europa.eu | Have your say [10:39] schestowitz-TR thanks, [10:39] schestowitz-TR I was just ota when you typed it [10:39] schestowitz-TR responding to a video of Campinos [10:39] schestowitz-TR a [10:39] schestowitz-TR 1-hour rebuttasl [10:39] schestowitz-TR this inc. exactly this subject [10:39] schestowitz-TR like "harmonisation" [10:44] Techrights-sec Apple, for example, submitted 81 pages of comment pushing for patents and such [10:44] schestowitz-TR well, apple is a european company based in reland :-) [10:45] Techrights-sec :( [10:45] schestowitz-TR maybe they should take the demands/advice of yandex and huawei too [10:50] Techrights-sec it would be about as inappropriate [10:50] Techrights-sec Unfortunately there is rarely any coverage for these consultations unless, [10:50] Techrights-sec like this time, it happens after the period has closed [10:51] schestowitz-TR tickbox-checking exercise [10:51] schestowitz-TR "we did open up to feedback" [10:51] schestowitz-TR (from corporations, not even European ones) ● May 20 [11:02] Techrights-sec yep [11:02] schestowitz-TR just found and enabled a screen drawing thing in kwin so I can paint on top of things I show [11:02] schestowitz-TR in fututr videos [11:10] Techrights-sec interesting capability [11:10] schestowitz-TR the campinos video will take ages to process [11:11] schestowitz-TR I will likely do more like that [11:11] schestowitz-TR knowing it gets under his skin [11:11] schestowitz-TR "show me what hurts you" [11:11] schestowitz-TR "so I know what yo do more of' [11:14] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:42] schestowitz-TR draft [11:42] schestowitz-TR so you think the term "Monpoly Tony" is [11:42] schestowitz-TR 1) polite enough [11:42] schestowitz-TR 2) informative enough [11:42] schestowitz-TR 3) effective [11:42] schestowitz-TR ? [11:42] schestowitz-TR Adopting it would // [11:42] schestowitz-TR a) be stupid [11:42] schestowitz-TR b) become catchy [11:42] schestowitz-TR ? [11:48] Techrights-sec it'd be too unclear about to whom it refers, best stick with the given name [11:48] Techrights-sec it also may help in "SEO" to associate his name with TR articles ... [11:48] schestowitz-TR first name or last name? [11:48] schestowitz-TR "Monpopoly Antonia Campinos" is too long and not catchy [11:48] schestowitz-TR I will link the name Monopoly Tony o his wiki page [11:48] schestowitz-TR Monopoly Tony has a "sing" to it [11:50] Techrights-sec both [11:50] Techrights-sec right but an eptithet might not be necessary [11:50] Techrights-sec if you introduce him in each article as 'Antonio "Mr Monopoly" Campinos' then [11:50] Techrights-sec for the rest of that current article you can simply refer to him as [11:50] Techrights-sec Mr Mono-oloy, but it is important that the full name show up at least once [11:50] Techrights-sec in each relevant article [11:50] schestowitz-TR Ok, the headline says his name [11:50] schestowitz-TR and then the eptithet links to a wiki page s he loatghes deeply [11:50] schestowitz-TR also, the target audience here knows who that us [11:50] schestowitz-TR *is [11:50] Techrights-sec that's ok, the repetition of the full name is important for later and for [11:50] Techrights-sec newcomers and for the search engines, so three reasons IMHO [11:51] schestowitz-TR makes sense! [11:51] schestowitz-TR I notice terms we use are adopted inside and outside EPO, over time... ● May 20 [12:21] Techrights-sec excellent [12:21] schestowitz-TR I'm guessing you saw some quotes in #techrights last night about what had happened [12:31] Techrights-sec which ones? [12:32] schestowitz-TR gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-190522.gmi [12:32] schestowitz-TR http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-190522.html [12:32] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, May 19, 2022 [12:55] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● May 20 [13:00] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@y56qsb6r6yg94.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:18] Techrights-sec ack ● May 20 [15:24] *techrights_guest|61 (~050810a3@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:24] *techrights_guest|61 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [15:36] schestowitz-TR some god news from turkey [15:36] schestowitz-TR I'm not too ffond of their regime [15:36] schestowitz-TR but they do represent a success story on the SF side [15:36] Techrights-sec excellent [15:36] Techrights-sec Aral's doing? [15:36] schestowitz-TR no, see latest 2 posts in TR [15:36] schestowitz-TR Aral was a Mac fanboy for too long [15:36] schestowitz-TR he still loves JS [15:37] Techrights-sec Aral's doing? [15:37] Techrights-sec yes javascript is a major downside to his work [15:37] schestowitz-TR tim b-l's also, plus GITHUB! [15:40] Techrights-sec timbl rendered himself mostly irrelevant as far as the future goes when [15:40] Techrights-sec he folded on EME / DRM [15:41] psydroid2 Solid/Inrupt [15:41] schestowitz-TR Tim's Rusty Linus moment [15:41] schestowitz-TR or some other analogies [15:41] schestowitz-TR or RMS going to lecture... Microsoft, only to be thrown under a bus to distract from BillG 2 weeks later? [15:41] schestowitz-TR psydroid2: solid went nowhere [15:41] schestowitz-TR except Microsoft [15:42] psydroid2 schestowitz-TR, I saw him do his presentation at FOSDEM 19, but halfway through someone from IRC came to meet me and we left [15:42] Techrights-sec I still don't get what went on with RMS that he would have such exceedingly bad [15:42] Techrights-sec jusdgment as to visit Redmond [15:43] psydroid2 it's not that I was overly interested in it, it just gave me a chuckle that he was even trying to peddle this lame duck [15:43] schestowitz-TR I asked him to write to explain [15:43] schestowitz-TR which he did [15:43] schestowitz-TR and then the storm started [15:43] schestowitz-TR so he mostly vanished [15:44] Techrights-sec so maybe he will never bring it up again? [15:44] Techrights-sec too bad, others could learn from that mistake if more details were known [15:45] schestowitz-TR psydroid2: I know very little about it [15:45] schestowitz-TR except Microsoft shit+JS shit [15:45] psydroid2 schestowitz-TR, it just sounded so lame [15:45] schestowitz-TR and he was helping DRM agenda around that time [15:45] schestowitz-TR a senior moment [15:45] psydroid2 as if he was trying to keep people onboard [15:45] psydroid2 rather than suggesting a way out of the mess [15:46] psydroid2 I would not trust this guy with anything ever again [15:46] Techrights-sec I see the two posts on market share in Turkey [15:46] Techrights-sec It would help if there were a link from the statement that school migratinos [15:46] Techrights-sec play a large role in the numbers [15:47] schestowitz-TR the statements would not be in englisha dn in fact english-speaking media totally ignored all this [15:47] schestowitz-TR I can guess why [15:47] schestowitz-TR you can too [15:47] Techrights-sec yes AFAIK similar happened in Spain, starting with Extremadura. The mainstream [15:47] Techrights-sec press pretended the land had vanished as it upgraded tp GNU/Linux and dropped [15:47] Techrights-sec M$ all around. [15:48] psydroid2 I speak Spanish pretty well, but my Turkish is in its infancy [15:48] psydroid2 there is a lot to be found in Spanish [15:50] Techrights-sec Yes, /in/ Spanish but not about Spain in English... [15:51] schestowitz-TR the nature of media manipulation [15:51] schestowitz-TR a) microsoft holes blamed on victims and attackers [15:51] schestowitz-TR b) billg is vaccine expert, not profiteers, and his haters are all just "antiovaxxer" and jealous [15:52] psydroid2 fortunately English isn't the only language spoken in the world [15:53] psydroid2 and I don't think it's fair to expect people from each country to write in a foreign language to reach a wider audience [15:54] Techrights-sec :) [15:59] schestowitz-TR IIRC, Spanish is spoke in most countries [15:59] schestowitz-TR maybe Arabic by most people [15:59] schestowitz-TR if not Mandarin [15:59] schestowitz-TR English spoken as a secondary language in many places ● May 20 [16:00] schestowitz-TR or third language [16:00] schestowitz-TR after the fall of the British Empire and see US hegemony this will change [16:00] psydroid2 Hindi [16:00] schestowitz-TR that can take several more generations to change [16:00] schestowitz-TR psydroid2: but many dialects in India, no? [16:01] schestowitz-TR in school, aged around 10, I did a project about Indian languages [16:01] schestowitz-TR I might still have that somewhere in my archives [16:01] psydroid2 schestowitz-TR, yes, but this is specifically about standard Hindi [16:01] psydroid2 I speak another North Indian language natively [16:01] psydroid2 in addition to Hindi [16:01] Techrights-sec Not in the country but at least those outside the country covering that beat. [16:01] Techrights-sec Spain was covered up until major parts dropped M$. [16:01] Techrights-sec However, there is a margeting and political advantage for each country [16:01] Techrights-sec presenting an English language news service for foreign consumption. [16:02] psydroid2 I think that's more important if English is the only foreign language you speak [16:03] psydroid2 German is still very important in Europe [16:03] psydroid2 and French when speaking to people in Africa [16:03] schestowitz-TR western africa [16:06] psydroid2 and Anglophone countries abuse that power they have over people who at most speak English in addition to their native language(s) by offering bad living/working conditions [16:09] Techrights-sec https://today.rtl.lu/ [16:09] Techrights-sec https://cphpost.dk/?cat=8 [16:09] Techrights-sec https://news.err.ee/ [16:09] Techrights-sec https://eng.lsm.lv/ [16:09] Techrights-sec https://www.lrt.lt/en/ [16:09] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-today.rtl.lu | RTL Today - Home [16:09] Techrights-sec https://about.rte.ie/ [16:09] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-cphpost.dk | News Archives - The Post [16:09] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.err.ee | news | ERR [16:09] Techrights-sec https://mexiconewsdaily.com/category/news/ [16:09] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Eng.lsm.lv - Reliable news from Latvia [16:09] Techrights-sec and many African countries have English as a primary or secondary language [16:09] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.lrt.lt | Lithuanian National Television and Radio. News, livestreams, video, audio - LRT [16:09] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-about.rte.ie | About RT [16:09] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mexiconewsdaily.com | Mexico news archives [16:09] psydroid2 https://www.edudwar.com/list-of-most-spoken-languages-in-the-world/ [16:09] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.edudwar.com | List of Most spoken Languages in the World 2022: top languages in the World [16:10] psydroid2 French is the fastest growing language in Africa [16:10] Techrights-sec I can muddle through much of the cyrillica and devangiri alphabets but th [16:10] Techrights-sec the transliteration does nothing without knowing the languagess. [16:10] Techrights-sec Back before he started making American movies, I used to read enough Chines [16:10] Techrights-sec to find Jackie Chan's name on videos in the Chinese video shop. Same for jet li [16:10] Techrights-sec and a few others. That's all forgotten now. [16:11] psydroid2 if you don't use it, you'll lose it [16:16] Techrights-sec There are only 24 hours per day and memories / knowledge fades without refresshing [16:17] psydroid2 min puhun vh [16:17] psydroid2 n suomea [16:17] psydroid2 or something like that [16:17] psydroid2 it's been a while [16:17] psydroid2 and yes, I know ● May 20 [17:32] schestowitz-TR "Students should not have to use proprietary software to participate in the educational process. The FSFE joins the Dutch coalition Fair Digital Education supporting privacy-respecting solutions involving Free Software in schools." https://fsfe.org/news/2022/news-20220520-01.en.html [17:32] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fsfe.org | FSFE signs Dutch manifesto calling for education improvements - FSFE [17:32] schestowitz-TR Indonesian LibreOffice community: recent activities https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/05/20/indonesian-libreoffice-community-recent-activities/ [17:32] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.documentfoundation.org | Indonesian LibreOffice community: recent activities - The Document Foundation Blog [17:34] schestowitz-TR keep pushing [17:34] schestowitz-TR we make progress [17:34] schestowitz-TR the media is not on our side [17:34] Techrights-sec ack [17:34] Techrights-sec yea [17:35] schestowitz-TR same issue re EPO and "AYE PEE" [17:35] schestowitz-TR FUCK THE MEDIA! [17:35] schestowitz-TR People can see for themselves who makes more sense [17:35] schestowitz-TR Monopoly Tony or what he called (int the talk) "movement" of "anti-IP" [17:47] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) ● May 20 [18:51] schestowitz-TR Outsourcing one's readership to a volatile third party seems like short-sighted and risky a move from a site almost 30 years old https://lwn.net/Articles/895898/ [18:51] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-LWN is now on Mastodon [LWN.net] [18:54] schestowitz-TR laws is well known [18:54] schestowitz-TR not some new incognito [18:54] schestowitz-TR case scanario: "oh, cool, I can follow all the sites here... FREE CANDY!" [18:54] schestowitz-TR user stops using the rss feed, uses this instead [18:54] schestowitz-TR instance shuts down [18:54] schestowitz-TR reader lost [18:54] schestowitz-TR "oh, shit, I forgot you exist or thought you stopped publishing!!" [18:54] schestowitz-TR /s/laws/LWN/ [18:55] Techrights-sec ack [18:55] Techrights-sec which source for the quote? [18:59] schestowitz-TR just hypothetical, joke [18:59] schestowitz-TR a long long time ago I worried about that [18:59] schestowitz-TR 2010 or earlier [18:59] schestowitz-TR boycott novell days [18:59] schestowitz-TR now LWN can become "just some account" [18:59] schestowitz-TR and people might not even explore the site [18:59] Techrights-sec ack [18:59] schestowitz-TR it's like B2B marketing [18:59] schestowitz-TR instead of setting up shop [18:59] schestowitz-TR you see: [18:59] schestowitz-TR it's OK if people link to LWN [18:59] schestowitz-TR but people won't assume that those peolple are LWN [18:59] schestowitz-TR or that LWN is an account [18:59] schestowitz-TR they also chose a likely very transient instgance [18:59] schestowitz-TR fosstodon [18:59] schestowitz-TR it is only years old ● May 20 [19:08] schestowitz-TR how do you prove intent [19:08] schestowitz-TR as in "intnetional"? [19:08] schestowitz-TR boycott novell can be banned in an instance [19:08] schestowitz-TR it is intentionaly antagonistic to some things [19:08] schestowitz-TR yoiu are REQUIRED to be "active in the community" [19:08] schestowitz-TR so you cannot post just links to lwn with a script [19:08] schestowitz-TR to your own site [19:08] schestowitz-TR you must leave some "likes" and comments here and there [19:08] schestowitz-TR Orwell would be proud [19:08] schestowitz-TR cannot "engege in personao attacls" [19:08] schestowitz-TR oh, shit, there go all my posts about Zemlin [19:08] schestowitz-TR the millionaire [19:08] Techrights-sec :( [19:08] Techrights-sec or they can intentionally misconstrue everything and anything as a personal [19:08] Techrights-sec attack [19:08] schestowitz-TR rule number one says "antiSemitism" and "transphobia" [19:08] schestowitz-TR under "hateful ideaologies" [19:08] schestowitz-TR HAHAHAHA [19:08] schestowitz-TR "do not debate moderation action" [19:08] schestowitz-TR they are above the law! [19:08] schestowitz-TR Cannot even talk about their decisions!! [19:08] schestowitz-TR You MUST post only in ENGLISH! [19:08] schestowitz-TR Because...oderation [19:08] schestowitz-TR *moderatin [19:08] schestowitz-TR that does seem against the principles of inclusion :-) [19:12] schestowitz-TR can you see above "how do you prove intent [19:12] schestowitz-TR I lost that (out of scrollback) [19:40] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@v4ert6vrmdahg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:40] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [19:42] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@2e2c9k5uam4rg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:43] Techrights-sec not that far back [19:44] schestowitz-TR OK, I wrongly estimated number of lines I had after restating this machine [19:44] schestowitz-TR anyway, I know roughly what I said there, I'm likely going to do a video about it [19:45] schestowitz-TR 'Do not be intentionally antagonistic. A post or reply designed to provoke a confrontation is not acceptable." [19:45] schestowitz-TR https://fosstodon.org/about/more [19:45] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fosstodon.org - Fosstodon ● May 20 [20:28] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [20:29] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:35] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:43] schestowitz-TR OTA [20:45] schestowitz-TR I've increased the visile buffer; along the way I found some ytalk feature I was not aware of before [20:45] schestowitz-TR either way, it's fine as it is [20:45] schestowitz-TR I didn't lose anythingm of value [20:45] schestowitz-TR but the scrollback helped a bit when recording [20:45] schestowitz-TR I have a vague recolle [20:45] schestowitz-TR ction of what I said ● May 20 [23:09] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [23:09] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell