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r_schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/09/huawei-makes-surprising-announcement-or.html?showComment=1568854945147#c3748539094010090632Sep 20 05:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Huawei makes a surprising announcement, or, the changing role of patents in the global economy - The IPKatSep 20 05:35
r_schestowitz"A truly interesting read, Léon. If my understanding is correct, one of your points is that patent law is departing from "traditional" patent exploitation, i.e. excluding others from using the patented invention I was wondering, however, whether a (potential) sale of 5G patents by Huawei can be seen as a manifestation of such a shift. As Huawei is facing substantial headwinds in western countries, selling off the 5G patents might just Sep 20 05:35
r_schestowitzbe the best or maybe only option to recoup investments and a move to regain lost trust in western countries as well as avoiding future bans. "Sep 20 05:35
r_schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/09/who-owns-copyright-in-ugandas-national.html?showComment=1568800903721#c5168812598701574451Sep 20 05:35
r_schestowitz"Sep 20 05:35
r_schestowitzI agree with your sentiments, basing the judgment on the proposition that, "the Government “directed” and “controlled” the composition of the work" disregards Section 8(3). This is bad law. Sep 20 05:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Who owns copyright in Uganda’s National Anthem? - The IPKatSep 20 05:35
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/EUScienceInnov/status/1174667140428902406Sep 20 06:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@EUScienceInnov: Do #OpenInnovation and #IPprotection work together? What impact can this have on international relations? Mikko Huu… https://t.co/ogUtNJNq1XSep 20 06:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@EUScienceInnov: Do #OpenInnovation and #IPprotection work together? What impact can this have on international relations? Mikko Huu… https://t.co/ogUtNJNq1XSep 20 06:12
r_schestowitz"Do #OpenInnovation and #IPprotection work together? What impact can this have on international relations? Mikko Huuskonen, Anne Worsøe and Stephen Rowan will be discussing all this at #RiDaysEU. Find out more"Sep 20 06:12
r_schestowitz>>>>  told me that bkuhn wrote the whole thing. He shouldSep 20 07:10
r_schestowitz>>>> know. He's sure.Sep 20 07:10
r_schestowitz>>> Ok.  That's all internal though.  If some public confession were made bySep 20 07:10
r_schestowitz>>> Bradley or some material published by the board, that could beSep 20 07:10
r_schestowitz>>> circulated widely.Sep 20 07:10
r_schestowitz>> I will not write this in TR as that might cause a bad 'witch hunt'Sep 20 07:10
r_schestowitz>> against Kuhn and it would go nowhere good.Sep 20 07:10
r_schestowitz> There are too many witch hunts already.  A guest post at TR came up withSep 20 07:10
r_schestowitz> a good name for the CoCs based on how they are used in practice: MalleusSep 20 07:10
r_schestowitz> Hackerum.Sep 20 07:10
r_schestowitz> Sep 20 07:10
r_schestowitz>>> Along those lines, is this page being kept up to date?Sep 20 07:10
r_schestowitz>>>Sep 20 07:10
r_schestowitz>>> http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128122Sep 20 07:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Stallman Under Fire for Views on Epstein | Tux MachinesSep 20 07:10
r_schestowitz>>>Sep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz>>> It will be very important to have a one-stop page containing links to asSep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz>>> many articles as possible, both the good and the all too many bad ones,Sep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz>>> to help RMS and the FSF later as the dust settles.  For one, it is aSep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz>>> classic case of yellow journalism, not checking sources, and a twitterSep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz>>> lynch mob.  There are many around the world that would be able to digSep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz>>> into that.Sep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz>> The only omission is shite like "Tweets";Sep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz> Ok.  By the way this guy, if he's alive, might be professionallySep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz> interested in the saga from the angle of studying the media manipulationSep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz> going on:Sep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz> Sep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz> https://mobile.twitter.com/leopekkalaSep 20 07:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mobile.twitter.com | Leo Pekkala (@leopekkala) on TwitterSep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz> Sep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz> I used to fence in his fencing club, usually placing 5th or 6thSep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz> nationally.  I don't have his current e-mail address though.  I'mSep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz> wondering if it is time to look for it and then write him or if itSep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz> should wait some weeks or months.  He has been in the Finnish Society onSep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz> Media Education as a director and board member.  There's not quite aSep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz> direct tie to Finland but otherwise is about the press.Sep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz> Sep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz>> By the way, the "remove Stallman" lady "liked" some of my tweets; ISep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz>> don't take that for anything other than self-publicity opportunism fromSep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz>> her.Sep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz> [snip]Sep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz> Sep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz> Ewww.Sep 20 07:11
r_schestowitzYesterday (iirc) she said she chose to leak to Vice, i.e. News Corp.Sep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz> Ok.  That's all internal though.  If some public confession were made bySep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz> Bradley or some material published by the board, that could beSep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz> circulated widely.Sep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz> Sep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz> Along those lines, is this page being kept up to date?Sep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz> Sep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz> http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128122Sep 20 07:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Stallman Under Fire for Views on Epstein | Tux MachinesSep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz> Sep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz> It will be very important to have a one-stop page containing links to asSep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz> many articles as possible, both the good and the all too many bad ones,Sep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz> to help RMS and the FSF later as the dust settles.  For one, it is aSep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz> classic case of yellow journalism, not checking sources, and a twitterSep 20 07:11
r_schestowitz> lynch mob.  There are many around the world that would be able to digSep 20 07:12
r_schestowitz> into that.Sep 20 07:12
r_schestowitz=Sep 20 07:18
r_schestowitzhttps://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-partners-with-nextlink-internet-in-the-latest-airband-initiative-milestone/Sep 20 07:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.neowin.net | Microsoft partners with Nextlink Internet in the latest Airband Initiative milestone - NeowinSep 20 07:18
r_schestowitz=Sep 20 07:18
r_schestowitzhttps://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-and-nextlink-internet-partner-improve-broadband-access-1-million-peopleSep 20 07:18
r_schestowitz=Sep 20 07:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.windowscentral.com | Microsoft and Nextlink Internet partner to improve broadband access for around 1 million people | Windows CentralSep 20 07:18
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Tayelrand/status/1174935696332619776Sep 20 07:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Tayelrand: With #Stallman and #Torvald both out of the picture the '#GNULinux community could be in trouble 'We need geeks,… https://t.co/Z25UxW71ThSep 20 07:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Tayelrand: With #Stallman and #Torvald both out of the picture the '#GNULinux community could be in trouble 'We need geeks,… https://t.co/Z25UxW71ThSep 20 07:40
r_schestowitz"Sep 20 07:40
r_schestowitzWith #Stallman and #Torvald both out of the picture the '#GNULinux community could be in trouble Sep 20 07:40
r_schestowitz'We need geeks, not suits and marketing liars like Linux Foundation managers'Sep 20 07:40
r_schestowitz"Sep 20 07:40
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/thorlaug/status/1174832575984164865Sep 20 07:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@thorlaug: @schestowitz I know, it was still overstepping. He was repeatedly accused of treating women with disrespect and cr… https://t.co/7SnAuwRm70Sep 20 07:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@thorlaug: @schestowitz I know, it was still overstepping. He was repeatedly accused of treating women with disrespect and cr… https://t.co/7SnAuwRm70Sep 20 07:46
r_schestowitz"I know, it was still overstepping.  He was repeatedly accused of treating women with disrespect and creating a hostile work environment. For degrading and harassing opponents. You cannot excuse that behavior just because it doesn't affect you. Disappointed in you. Unfollowed."Sep 20 07:46
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/thorlaug/status/1174833602842025986Sep 20 07:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@thorlaug: making sure you see this @schestowitz - this is unacceptable behavior excused with his alleged brilliance. His beha… https://t.co/cNmqLn920CSep 20 07:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@thorlaug: making sure you see this @schestowitz - this is unacceptable behavior excused with his alleged brilliance. His beha… https://t.co/cNmqLn920CSep 20 07:47
r_schestowitz"Sep 20 07:47
r_schestowitzmaking sure you see this Sep 20 07:47
r_schestowitz@schestowitzSep 20 07:47
r_schestowitz - this is unacceptable behavior excused with his alleged brilliance. His behavior is undefendable. He himself is the cause, nobody else. Please revise your defense that other people's rights don't matter bc he stood up for your cause.Sep 20 07:47
r_schestowitz"Sep 20 07:47
r_schestowitzI always said, repeatedly, that I have an issue with his views on sexuality etc. Repeatedly.Sep 20 07:47
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Bizitzarenjokoa/status/1174881996964814849Sep 20 07:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Bizitzarenjokoa: @schestowitz According to Sarah Mei we should ditch Microsoft altogether, and not only Bill, anyone who shows any s… https://t.co/ZfvAUe6RAOSep 20 07:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Bizitzarenjokoa: @schestowitz According to Sarah Mei we should ditch Microsoft altogether, and not only Bill, anyone who shows any s… https://t.co/ZfvAUe6RAOSep 20 07:48
r_schestowitz"According to Sarah Mei we should ditch Microsoft altogether, and not only Bill, anyone who shows any support to him, even if being against the Epstein mafia."Sep 20 07:48
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/tZP6MdNy5pEB5Ya/status/1174899999261384707Sep 20 07:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@tZP6MdNy5pEB5Ya: @Bizitzarenjokoa @schestowitz Sarah Mei is a harm to the community, we should all work to ban her from the industry. She's too toxic.Sep 20 07:49
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Peterwyck29/status/1174932003797340160Sep 20 07:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Peterwyck29: @schestowitz Blah blah blah - SOS - the guy ur spotlighting is a paladin for #serialinfringers who don’t infringe T… https://t.co/lKaUSvIx6iSep 20 07:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Peterwyck29: @schestowitz Blah blah blah - SOS - the guy ur spotlighting is a paladin for #serialinfringers who don’t infringe T… https://t.co/lKaUSvIx6iSep 20 07:49
r_schestowitz"Blah blah blah - SOS - the guy ur spotlighting is a paladin for #serialinfringers who don’t infringe TODAY because they paid huge sums to have the laws changed in their favor so they could legally take what they themselves could not invent."Sep 20 07:49
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/terminsane/status/1174935829094944768Sep 20 07:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@terminsane: @schestowitz I'm poor. Work for me. Produce things for me. Give me free shit. I'm going to take a loan out to lear… https://t.co/QsFgjMywmUSep 20 07:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@terminsane: @schestowitz I'm poor. Work for me. Produce things for me. Give me free shit. I'm going to take a loan out to lear… https://t.co/QsFgjMywmUSep 20 07:50
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/terminsane/status/1174935829094944768Sep 20 07:50
r_schestowitzI'm poor. Work for me. Produce things for me. Give me free shit.Sep 20 07:50
r_schestowitzI'm going to take a loan out to learn how to paint self portraits.Sep 20 07:50
r_schestowitzPay if off for me while I collect YangGang Neetbux and skateboard and paint self portraits.Sep 20 07:50
r_schestowitz"Sep 20 07:50
r_schestowitz              <li>Sep 20 07:51
r_schestowitz                <h5><a href="https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/09/18/indonesia-draft-criminal-code-disastrous-rights">Indonesia: Draft Criminal Code Disastrous for Rights</a></h5>Sep 20 07:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/09/18/indonesia-draft-criminal-code-disastrous-rights">Indonesia )Sep 20 07:51
r_schestowitz                <blockquote>Sep 20 07:51
r_schestowitz                  <p> The bill also expands Indonesia’s 1965 Blasphemy Law, which increases the enumeration of “the elements of crimes” to include defaming religious artifacts. Parliament should remove blasphemy offenses that are inconsistent with Indonesia’s obligations under the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, Human Rights Watch said.Sep 20 07:51
r_schestowitz </p>Sep 20 07:51
r_schestowitz                  <p>Sep 20 07:51
r_schestowitz“Indonesia’s parliament should be encouraging free speech and association, and limiting – not expanding – the Blasphemy Law,” Harsono said. “The new criminal code is a precious opportunity that shouldn’t be wasted to remove toxic laws from the books and build a better, rights-respecting Indonesia.”Sep 20 07:51
r_schestowitz</p></blockquote></li>Sep 20 07:51
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Bizitzarenjokoa/status/1174939386380570625Sep 20 08:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Bizitzarenjokoa: @tZP6MdNy5pEB5Ya @schestowitz Maybe we should refund @salesforce because of her contracts with the US #ICE on jaili… https://t.co/tFhqwajU0vSep 20 08:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Bizitzarenjokoa: @tZP6MdNy5pEB5Ya @schestowitz Maybe we should refund @salesforce because of her contracts with the US #ICE on jaili… https://t.co/tFhqwajU0vSep 20 08:01
r_schestowitz"Sep 20 08:01
r_schestowitzlsort [info commands] Retweeted RAICESSep 20 08:01
r_schestowitzMaybe we should refund @salesforce because of her contracts with the US #ICE on jailing Mexicans, too.Sep 20 08:01
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/terminsane/status/1174939605113524225Sep 20 08:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@terminsane: @schestowitz Restricting hamburgers to the rich only this is what their solution is. Their solution literalky scre… https://t.co/XjEfMFDxStSep 20 08:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@terminsane: @schestowitz Restricting hamburgers to the rich only this is what their solution is. Their solution literalky scre… https://t.co/XjEfMFDxStSep 20 08:01
r_schestowitz"Sep 20 08:01
r_schestowitzRestricting hamburgers to the rich only this is what their solution is.Sep 20 08:01
r_schestowitzTheir solution literalky screws the poor.  It literally band poor people from having hamburgers. It literally steaks their human rights and creates a totalitarian authority to rule over themSep 20 08:01
r_schestowitz"Sep 20 08:01
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/terminsane/status/1174940085621411841Sep 20 08:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@terminsane: @schestowitz In other words, let's ban all information the elite disagree with, to protect people from themselves!… https://t.co/xJr28gy39ESep 20 08:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@terminsane: @schestowitz In other words, let's ban all information the elite disagree with, to protect people from themselves!… https://t.co/xJr28gy39ESep 20 08:01
r_schestowitz"Sep 20 08:01
r_schestowitzIn other words, let's ban all information the elite disagree with, to protect people from themselves!Sep 20 08:01
r_schestowitzFreedom is dangerous. We can't allow dangerous things.Sep 20 08:01
r_schestowitz"Sep 20 08:01
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r_schestowitz[20:09] <aindilis> ##rms@freenodeSep 20 20:52
r_schestowitz[20:17] <aindilis> I am having a massive brainfart, inconveniently, but what is the legal term for the fact that in order to commit a crime you must know it is a crime?Sep 20 20:52

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