●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, October 20, 2022 ●● ● Oct 20 [00:46] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:46] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@fdnb6jwcv4ndi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 20 [01:28] schestowitz-TR COVID Effect: Almost 20% Increase in England and Wales Deaths in Latest Weeks Data From Office for National Statistics (ONS) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/20/11207-deaths/ [01:28] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive COVID Effect: Almost 20% Increase in England and Wales Deaths in Latest Weeks Data From Office for National Statistics (ONS) ● Oct 20 [04:17] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [04:25] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@6genp7raa9gh8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 20 [05:06] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [05:06] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@6genp7raa9gh8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 20 [06:37] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [06:38] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [06:38] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 20 [07:21] schestowitz-TR The perils of selling out gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/10/19.1 "I was then reminded of the time I sold out [5] to get that sweet-sweet sponsored money (it wasn't muchabout $100 for seven ads) and the aftermath five years later [6]." [07:28] techrights-sec gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2009/05/22.1 [07:31] schestowitz-TR yeah, I did want to follow that links. [07:31] schestowitz-TR Just did. [07:31] schestowitz-TR It's never worth it. [07:31] schestowitz-TR His conclusion was that... 13 years ago. [07:31] schestowitz-TR Did you see the 2 covid-19 posts? I look forward to more data [07:32] schestowitz-TR we see quire an aftermath, not only here [07:44] techrights-sec not yet [07:54] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:57] schestowitz-TR todat at 4pm we get more figures [07:57] schestowitz-TR but several aspects of them are no longer trustworthy ● Oct 20 [08:06] techrights-sec How have the data been made less reliable? [08:12] schestowitz-TR i have lost track of the number of different ways, but some places like scotland stopped reporting [08:12] schestowitz-TR and they also changed defintion of what they measure several times [08:12] schestowitz-TR so in effect they compare apples to orange [08:12] schestowitz-TR from the first video (above) it seems they also tamper with registrations [08:12] schestowitz-TR and testing levels are very low [08:12] schestowitz-TR so we rely on random samples from ZOE Study or similar [08:12] schestowitz-TR they suggest we have about 2 million infected per week or at any given time [08:12] schestowitz-TR there are other things, sorry I do not have a more exhaustive list [08:12] schestowitz-TR ONSA data on mortality, I think, is a lot harder to fake [08:12] schestowitz-TR I disregard causes of death and focus on the sums [08:13] schestowitz-TR to myself, I rekckon that studying an hour ago studying the situatyion (for myself) is [08:13] schestowitz-TR better than getting very ill for several daya and then dealing with potential long-term effects [08:13] schestowitz-TR on a daily basis, isolation from carriers is mostly a "passave" task [08:13] schestowitz-TR tldr; until you figure out wth is going on, I will minimise the risk [08:13] schestowitz-TR they suppressed certain investigations, at least in academic and public sector [08:13] schestowitz-TR the new "thank you for smoking" is "thank you for returning to the office" (to support The System) [08:14] techrights-sec ack [08:14] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:17] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:18] schestowitz-TR I focus on uk ("close to hom") and countries that report data in ENGLISH, but if figures are more or less homogen [08:18] schestowitz-TR eous around thr world (same strains?), then it seems safe to assume 1 in 30 is infected around summertime [08:18] schestowitz-TR and 1 in 10 during winter [08:18] schestowitz-TR a scary statistic (ZOE survey) [08:19] schestowitz-TR for comparison's sake, in 2020 we still tested a lot and in summer had about 500 cases in the UK _per day_ [08:19] schestowitz-TR i.e. one in 100,000 [08:19] schestowitz-TR so it seemed safe to use the sauna and talk face to face to people you knew well [08:19] schestowitz-TR I hear more reports of hospitals being overrun by patients [08:19] schestowitz-TR young males dying in large numbers (the stats suggest the same!) [08:19] schestowitz-TR never mind the exodus of underpaid and overworked surses [08:19] schestowitz-TR rianne's aunt wants to retire already, had an operation to remove a tumour this month [08:22] schestowitz-TR weirdest thing is, they literally ship the sample (biopsy) to the United States [08:22] schestowitz-TR as if nowhere in the UK can the tumour tissue be studied [08:22] schestowitz-TR like we're some third world country [08:22] schestowitz-TR more likely some graft, privatisation contract [08:22] techrights-sec ack [08:26] techrights-sec Graft /and/ privatization [08:27] schestowitz-TR sickening to think some company with portfolio and shareholders is issuing congratulatory reports [08:27] schestowitz-TR on havins secure an inflow of tumours from the NHS (flown by plane I assume) [08:27] schestowitz-TR iow, profiting off the national insurance (NI, taxpayers) [08:27] schestowitz-TR *having secured [08:27] schestowitz-TR I noticed that the NHS becomes little but a "contractor" feeder for a slew of private companies [08:27] schestowitz-TR esp. when it's spcaialist services rather than GP that checks vital signs, among other basic services [08:27] schestowitz-TR but I'm 40, so cannot compare to his it was, say, in the 70s [08:33] techrights-sec I suspect the major damage to the NHS was done since 2012 or so. [08:35] schestowitz-TR seems like a global wave [08:35] schestowitz-TR I'm not an "economist" [08:35] schestowitz-TR but I think a lot of the commons and public sector get privatised to 'extend the life' of The SYstem [08:35] schestowitz-TR because there is "market value" in what is shared joinly by the general population [08:35] schestowitz-TR so they take it away from the population and then sell that "back" to it [08:38] schestowitz-TR there used to be MORE reporting on these issues [08:38] schestowitz-TR but now that journalism perishes you're more likely to find a "bill sez" piece [08:38] schestowitz-TR than something about scandals impacting the health of nearly 70 million Brits [08:38] schestowitz-TR a lot of COVID-19 reporting was outsourced to "Microsoft BI" and MOOX [08:38] schestowitz-TR to me, this is a good reason to make a copy of liberated (ODF) versions of files [08:39] techrights-sec There used to be more reporting on all issues. :/ [08:40] schestowitz-TR when things get worse and worse you cross the threshold where informed populace isn't tenable with StatusQuo(TM) [08:41] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:45] schestowitz-TR we need to see MOAR posts ("articles" are rare these days) [08:45] schestowitz-TR about [08:45] schestowitz-TR how 'hacker' 'news' is BS [08:45] schestowitz-TR Reddit is censorship [08:45] schestowitz-TR Twitter is manipulation [08:45] schestowitz-TR and so on [08:45] schestowitz-TR then, one can hope, alternatives would advance [08:45] schestowitz-TR Robertson continues to get his 'info' from Reddit "research" (his word) [08:45] schestowitz-TR spoonfed by conde nasty moderators [08:45] schestowitz-TR curated by clients like billg, microsoft, and icbm [08:47] schestowitz-TR TM (and to lesser degress TR; it's not its focus) is a filter for signal [08:47] schestowitz-TR no corporate influence, no blind loyalty [08:47] schestowitz-TR yesterday the maintainer of FOSS Weekly told me he was getting his news from Daily Links [08:47] schestowitz-TR so what we post (curation) propagates further and trickles down to other sites [08:58] techrights-sec ack [08:58] techrights-sec Each month it takes a little more work to get the links and the resulting [08:58] techrights-sec quantity diminishes anyway. There is simply much less material out there. [08:58] techrights-sec RSS feeds for thousands of blogs help a bit, but that requires lots and lots [08:58] techrights-sec of manual screening which can't be done in the same way as when visiting [08:58] techrights-sec mainstream sites. The latter conform to a fairly consistent structure, so [08:58] techrights-sec once you know the mainstream site you known more or less which strategy to [08:58] techrights-sec use to skim the document. The blogs are not consistent like that, often [08:58] techrights-sec not even within a single author's collection of work. However, that is not [08:58] techrights-sec a bad thing except for the time it costs. [08:59] schestowitz-TR that is a _fair_ price to pay for not having [08:59] schestowitz-TR 1) centralisation [08:59] schestowitz-TR 2) monopolies [08:59] schestowitz-TR 3) censorship (related to (!) and (2) [08:59] schestowitz-TR RSS/RDF help standardise the reading a bit [08:59] schestowitz-TR so you can leverage a piece of sofwtare to aggregate consistently ● Oct 20 [09:00] techrights-sec I expect though that I'll not get off my ass and write a proper RSS reader :/ [09:00] techrights-sec QuiteRSS is just adequate. It has its good points but overall is merely [09:00] techrights-sec adequate for the job. It waste too much effort on trying to render crap rather [09:00] techrights-sec than just showing the text and metadata while farming out more complex work [09:00] techrights-sec to specialized software like Chromium or Firefox. [09:02] schestowitz-TR rianne moved from thunderbird to quiterss [09:02] schestowitz-TR we set it to show raw html text for items, unless we press spacebar [09:03] schestowitz-TR and JS is off always [09:03] schestowitz-TR it makes things faster [09:03] schestowitz-TR I wrote some tools like url.sh to help me a bit more [09:03] schestowitz-TR using the mouse mostly [09:03] schestowitz-TR I wrote another tool for rianne [09:16] techrights-sec ack [09:17] schestowitz-TR btw, are irc logs to be posted later? [09:17] schestowitz-TR yesterdayy's had "frog" pendulum due to disk space running out [09:25] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [09:27] techrights-sec checking [09:27] schestowitz-TR thanks!! 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[10:09] *parsifal (~parsifal@8vte7vm6885eu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:10] schestowitz-TR [10:07] EFF to corporations and oligarchs (some of whom with EPO vested interests, like many mo [10:10] schestowitz-TR nopolies): pay us to decide where to direct public outrage, for corporate and personal gain. Advocacy-as-a-servic [10:10] schestowitz-TR e (for the rich). [10:10] schestowitz-TR they diverge further away over time [10:10] schestowitz-TR no posts at all about patents anymore [10:10] schestowitz-TR so to me their value diminished a lot [10:10] schestowitz-TR BTW, LF is a similar business model [10:10] schestowitz-TR Zemlin did an 'interviews' last month where he semi-admitted companies like Gulag basically [10:10] schestowitz-TR pay him to dictate tech trends and promote/advocacy things like kubernetes [10:10] schestowitz-TR LF does this... for a fee [10:11] schestowitz-TR nowadays LF is shilling "secure core" [10:11] schestowitz-TR "condifential computing"(TM) [10:12] schestowitz-TR sigstore ("sorry, you can't run this file!" CAs for binaries...) [10:12] schestowitz-TR other crap [10:12] schestowitz-TR we must call them out on it [10:23] techrights-sec Yes, "secure core" is shutting the door on general-purpose computing and [10:23] techrights-sec maybe a single step away from subsqeuently turning the lock on that door. [10:26] schestowitz-TR my video responses ranted about phoronix just reprinting slides sent to him as if he was "Analyst" [10:26] schestowitz-TR to do gratis propaganda for Microsot [10:26] schestowitz-TR I lost all respect for him [10:26] schestowitz-TR in a rush to maintain 10 posts/day he starts copypasta of marketing brochures [10:26] schestowitz-TR and turning 2-line git commits into extensive 'articles' that say nothing at all, just like to prior [10:26] schestowitz-TR phoronix articles for "engagement" [10:26] schestowitz-TR 2 lines of code, not two-line git commit message [10:26] schestowitz-TR /s/like/link to prior...' [10:37] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:41] techrights-sec Copying brochures or reposting slides is marketing not related to journalism [10:41] techrights-sec or even tech, regardless of the alleged content. [10:41] schestowitz-TR media kits or "guest" BS (like the one sean conner fell for) is seductive to the Spamnils of the worl [10:41] schestowitz-TR or drpizza reprinting shit for microsoft [10:41] schestowitz-TR because there is minimal effort [10:41] schestowitz-TR but better to post nothing than to 'dilute' the signal with garbage [10:41] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 20 [11:04] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:05] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:15] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [11:20] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:28] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:34] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [11:37] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:57] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 20 [12:05] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:06] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:26] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@nvjtm49ew7xe8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:32] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [12:38] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:46] schestowitz-TR i see names of family members in some recipes [12:46] schestowitz-TR but not the mother [12:47] schestowitz-TR today we used two tomato soups we got discounted as paste sauce [12:47] schestowitz-TR *pasta [12:47] schestowitz-TR ½ does not get interpreted correctly in gemini [12:47] schestowitz-TR it does plain unicode [12:48] techrights-sec Oh. [12:50] schestowitz-TR I reckon a lot of money can be saved (for later) by preparing stuff at home [12:51] schestowitz-TR I'm not talking about "eating out" but all that "prepared" food on shelves [12:51] schestowitz-TR the underlying ingredients are much cheaper and can be bought without unwanted preservatives and plastics [12:51] schestowitz-TR I've been checking routes outwards lately, esp. for winter [12:51] schestowitz-TR seems premature for any kind of gym [12:51] schestowitz-TR #s at 4pm today [12:56] schestowitz-TR was checking the lemon pie as we still have w+ bags of lemons [12:56] schestowitz-TR I bought them half price [12:56] schestowitz-TR eggs have become more expensive for 6 than we used to buy 15 for [12:56] schestowitz-TR so any dish with eggs in it changed in cost [12:56] schestowitz-TR but rianne finds some discounted sometimes, i.e. same as "old" price [12:56] schestowitz-TR milk is also very expensive, but at discounted rates it can be old price or less [12:57] schestowitz-TR what she used to find in 3-4 stores a year ago this year she can barely find by visiting 11 (nearby) [12:57] schestowitz-TR and the radius of search expanded a bit [12:58] schestowitz-TR i reckon these fixes should be typed up as "sed" hacks, then chained for future pages [12:59] schestowitz-TR [12:59] What a weird think for a BROWSER company to be posting https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/midterms-2022-election-prep/ [12:59] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.mozilla.org | Prep for the U.S. midterm elections with these online tools ● Oct 20 [13:10] schestowitz-TR those are so hard to find that I don't think we ever found them on discount [13:10] schestowitz-TR we most go to small, empty stores [13:10] schestowitz-TR the large ones have too many people (or had them recently) [13:10] schestowitz-TR hence high riskf [13:10] schestowitz-TR first line of defence is good diet [13:10] schestowitz-TR second line of defence is keeping certain viruses away [13:10] schestowitz-TR and atm the saying "humans are the lice of the planet" seems applicable [13:10] schestowitz-TR esp. those who act as if deaths are not 20% higher than before [13:10] schestowitz-TR (forgot to mention: small stores = high prices, UNLESS discounted) [13:10] schestowitz-TR "smart" shopping lowers a GOOD diet from 10pp/day to 3 [13:10] schestowitz-TR or 600 per month (good items, not bread and jam) to under 200 [13:16] schestowitz-TR -- [13:16] schestowitz-TR I didn't go into lidl for ages [13:16] schestowitz-TR they pissed off rianne when they insisted that she ues a machine [13:16] schestowitz-TR and even closed an already-open till in the process [13:16] schestowitz-TR so they can go *** themselves [13:16] schestowitz-TR we get much better service at the small store and usually no queues [13:16] schestowitz-TR (rianne left the basket there, like I taught her... I hope this was reported to the higher "chain of command") [13:28] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:33] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:35] schestowitz-TR the managers will "register the message" when more people abandon baskets if the queues become too long [13:35] schestowitz-TR and possibly express themselves, clarifying why they are leaving [13:35] schestowitz-TR some stores here moved to all machines, then WENT BACK to manned tills [13:35] schestowitz-TR even some big chains [13:35] schestowitz-TR IOW, it was a failure [13:36] schestowitz-TR they're been experimenting with this BS for over a decade here [13:36] schestowitz-TR and they tell the dumb doormen (yes, they usually ARE dumb... just some "gym heroes") [13:36] schestowitz-TR to try to direct people to machines when they stand in the line [13:36] schestowitz-TR expressing no interest in machines [13:36] schestowitz-TR so doorman role becomes doorman slash nagger [13:36] schestowitz-TR while they ask tioll workings to also stock shelves and stuff to abandon tills [13:36] schestowitz-TR *till workers [13:36] schestowitz-TR so sometimes nobody stands there until you use body language and maybe utter something [13:36] schestowitz-TR they are 'crowdsourcing' the employment to UNPAID workers (customers) [13:36] schestowitz-TR 'gig economy' at zero rate [13:38] techrights-sec Yes they are trying to turn customers into unpaid workers with zero overhead. [13:38] techrights-sec The "gig economy" is nothing but a rip-off for all involved even the assholes [13:38] techrights-sec who think they are benefiting from it. [13:40] schestowitz-TR a very long time ago I came to the conclusion we can win this fight only if we convince others to join us [13:40] schestowitz-TR and to convince their friends too to do the same [13:40] schestowitz-TR to the point where these tills become a waste of space, maintenance overhead, and source of unhappy [13:40] schestowitz-TR customers [13:40] schestowitz-TR this will not only make better service [13:40] schestowitz-TR it'll protect the jobs of people who are already financially vulnerable [13:44] schestowitz-TR I am now recalling having a chat with a bank teller about 7 years ago [13:44] schestowitz-TR I told her I used the service also to protect her job [13:44] schestowitz-TR but they are like robots [13:44] schestowitz-TR repeating what the boss tells them to tell us [13:44] schestowitz-TR like, "don't worry, they will give the staff other tasks" [13:44] schestowitz-TR easy to debunk [13:44] schestowitz-TR years down the line the same bank has only 1.5 branches in the whole of town [13:44] schestowitz-TR they "consolidated" [13:44] schestowitz-TR long queues and unhelpful staff that won't even print an a4 sheet of paper without asking shit [13:44] techrights-sec https://dilbert.com/strip/2016-02-25 [13:44] techrights-sec ack [13:44] schestowitz-TR like, did you try the web site? "you got the app?" [13:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Asok The Uber Driver - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2016-02-25 | Dilbert by Scott Adams [13:44] schestowitz-TR so these people who were unhelpful years ago are not out of a job [13:44] schestowitz-TR because they didn't dare challenge the boss [13:44] schestowitz-TR they play "safe" [13:44] schestowitz-TR and they ended up broke [13:45] schestowitz-TR in M&S I confronted the boss [13:45] schestowitz-TR when he intervened after a staff member opened a till to serve us [13:45] schestowitz-TR that shop went downhill [13:45] schestowitz-TR but I made it very clear to him that his worker was very good [13:45] schestowitz-TR and that his attitude put us off [13:45] schestowitz-TR we just left the basket there [13:47] schestowitz-TR sudo make me an app (sandwich) [13:47] schestowitz-TR maybe the FSF should start some campaign against crApp [13:47] schestowitz-TR or maybe not... [13:47] schestowitz-TR do they hhave any ongoing campaigns at all? [13:53] schestowitz-TR regarding firings, there are ways to 'terrorise' companies [13:53] schestowitz-TR for firing good staff [13:53] schestowitz-TR not sit-ins [13:53] schestowitz-TR example: [13:53] schestowitz-TR "where is john? he did good service for me..." [13:53] schestowitz-TR if they fire good workers, you make a complains to the boss of the boss [13:53] schestowitz-TR about people who helped bring business [13:53] techrights-sec ack [13:53] schestowitz-TR being driven away [13:53] schestowitz-TR so the lower boss starts to realise there is risk associated with firing good workers [13:53] schestowitz-TR in our company, rianne and I are valued because people know how long we've been around [13:53] schestowitz-TR and gave decent service [13:53] schestowitz-TR this means firing us is barely an option [13:53] schestowitz-TR (so far) [13:53] schestowitz-TR another, more positive approach is to identify till workers or tellers who do a good job [13:53] schestowitz-TR and signal to the shop/bank managers that you like them [13:53] schestowitz-TR and then you fortify their standing [13:53] schestowitz-TR it's easier to do somewhere like the gym because people know each others' faces [13:53] schestowitz-TR I once campaigned for someone to be hired by the gym (kieran) by asking other members to drop by the office and [13:53] schestowitz-TR say a good word about him ● Oct 20 [14:10] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:12] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:13] schestowitz-TR it has occurred to me that all this "put microphones and net-connected cameras everywhere" [14:13] schestowitz-TR BS can, in due course, be used in effort to automate collective informants, enforcement, punishment [14:13] schestowitz-TR and they will just call it "HEY HI" or assistanted [14:13] schestowitz-TR too many people already carry tracking devices and covid-19 panic accelerated the trend [14:13] schestowitz-TR like "no cash accepted" [14:13] schestowitz-TR but maybe I think too far aheads [14:13] schestowitz-TR cops are not predictable [14:13] schestowitz-TR they can also have compassion sometimes [14:13] techrights-sec New cars apparently have a multitude of both, inside and out. [14:16] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:27] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:36] schestowitz-TR new cars is like a taxi with microphones and cctv in it [14:37] schestowitz-TR except in your own car they also know your name and lots more [14:37] schestowitz-TR the tracking of cars can be "sold" to the public as "traffic control" and "environment" [14:37] schestowitz-TR e.g. if every new car must have GPS receiver somewhere and requires "apps" and stuff [14:37] techrights-sec "smartphones" also have GPS and most "apps" seem to require full access to the [14:37] techrights-sec GPS data. [14:38] schestowitz-TR already discused in irc for 30 mins: uk pm resigned [14:38] schestowitz-TR only last night I asked rianne about it [14:38] schestowitz-TR what billbc "sez" [14:55] *parsifal has quit (Quit: Leaving) [14:58] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:59] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 20 [15:01] *parsifal (~parsifal@8vte7vm6885eu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:01] *parsifal has quit (connection closed) [15:01] *parsifal (~parsifal@8vte7vm6885eu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:05] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:09] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:13] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:18] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:22] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:27] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:31] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:38] techrights-sec Will the replacement be yet worse? [15:38] techrights-sec ack [15:38] schestowitz-TR chuck windsor [15:39] *Mio14 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [15:41] *Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-rr8.u5c.bjapj4.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [15:42] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:44] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:49] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:53] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:55] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 20 [16:02] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:08] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:09] schestowitz-TR I think I've neatly refined the way I do clustering of news in TM [16:09] schestowitz-TR a workflow I only recently experimented with [16:09] schestowitz-TR now checking nhs #s [16:09] schestowitz-TR then, I need topic :-0 [16:09] techrights-sec ack [16:10] schestowitz-TR [16:01] https://nitter.it/Alan_McGuinness/status/1582780559989739522 [16:10] schestowitz-TR [16:01] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- Alan McGuinness (@Alan_McGuinness): "My son has lived through four chancellors, three home secretaries, two prime ministers and two monarchs. He's four months old."|nitter.it [16:10] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Alan McGuinness (@Alan_McGuinness): "My son has lived through four chancellors, three home secretaries, two prime ministers and two monarchs. He's four months old."|nitter.it [16:11] techrights-sec ack [16:11] techrights-sec Well it seems that EFF is promoting Facebook for some things. [16:11] techrights-sec Yep [16:11] techrights-sec Some of the old stuff was misguided, too, choosing to play whac-a-mole [16:11] techrights-sec instead of going after the cause [16:11] techrights-sec https://www.eff.org/issues/patent-busting-project [16:11] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | Patent Busting Project | Electronic Frontier Foundation [16:12] schestowitz-TR EFF being shit if hardly even news anymorea [16:12] schestowitz-TR and kaniini noticed the same and asked me about them [16:12] schestowitz-TR crazy matt seems happy to meet the coup plotters there [16:12] schestowitz-TR there seems to be overlap in agenda [16:12] schestowitz-TR maybe even cross-coordination [16:12] techrights-sec Here's an old link again: [16:12] techrights-sec https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/2021-we-fought-more-open-balanced-patent-system [16:12] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | Fighting For A More Open, Balanced Patent System: 2021 in Review | Electronic Frontier Foundation [16:13] schestowitz-TR to eff's credit, later it did "lobby" in favour os better uspto (it lways ignored epo) [16:13] schestowitz-TR and even named swpats sometimes [16:14] schestowitz-TR but the people who did this no longer post there [16:14] schestowitz-TR I guess the funding for this campaigning ran out [16:14] techrights-sec Ok that lobbying might be a topic even if it is just to lament its absence [16:14] techrights-sec from current EFF activities [16:14] schestowitz-TR ok, yes, going through their web site on video to make a point [16:14] schestowitz-TR and noting epo apathy [16:19] schestowitz-TR in short, today's eff does not step on the toes of large US corporations (private sector) [16:19] schestowitz-TR and instead focuses on the public sector, which includes politics [16:19] schestowitz-TR just getting off someone's "side" or barking up some other tree is enough [16:19] schestowitz-TR to please some companies that pay or "partner with" EFF [16:19] schestowitz-TR I have 4 topics written down now [16:19] schestowitz-TR brb [16:21] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [16:24] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:39] schestowitz-TR COVID-19 in England in October (10): Over 10 Thousand in Hospital, Over a Thousand Admitted Per Day, Over 10% Testing Positive (PCR) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/20/england-october-2022/ [16:39] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive COVID-19 in England in October (10): Over 10 Thousand in Hospital, Over a Thousand Admitted Per Day, Over 10% Testing Positive (PCR) [16:40] techrights-sec ack [16:42] schestowitz-TR [16:41] In 2022 (October) we have twice as many COVID-19 admissions to hospital in England compared to the same period one year ago (after we had lifted all restrictions). This is NOT an improvement! [16:45] schestowitz-TR gov policy: make the portal "covid" "look good".. [16:45] schestowitz-TR putin does not need to worry about lawmakers working to oust him [16:45] schestowitz-TR if such lawmakers existed, they would cease to exist [16:45] schestowitz-TR maybe putin sends out drones to check where the sauna is good and where there's more water for it [16:45] schestowitz-TR in case he wants to embark on winter holiday andnd drink in a tank [16:45] schestowitz-TR or drink the tank to get warmer [16:45] schestowitz-TR tank of water [16:45] schestowitz-TR or oil [16:46] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [16:48] schestowitz-TR England official data shows we have more COVID-19 deaths so far in October than the same month a year ago. We've improved in NO WAY, other than pretending the problem is "old"... 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