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| schestowitz__ | https://placeholderapi.wordpress.com/2021/02/19/gratifying-to-see-even-some-fedora-people-and-ibm-redhat-employe/#comment-17718 | Feb 21 07:02 |
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| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-placeholderapi.wordpress.com | Gratifying to see even some #fedora people and #ibm #redhat employe… | Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) | Feb 21 07:02 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Hey, I totally dig that the timing of my talk might point to a specific narrative for you. However, that’s how I’ve always rolled (eg see the ~3 yo referenced related talk linked in that post, or honestly any of my recorded talks). I’m not trying to say your narrative is wrong, just that my talk doesn’t provide evidence of it. Cheers." | Feb 21 07:02 |
| schestowitz__ | I think it is important to remind people why we do all this and the term you use is very helpful | Feb 21 07:02 |
| schestowitz__ | >> This is what I did last night. I still try to get usage estimate. | Feb 21 07:11 |
| schestowitz__ | >> | Feb 21 07:11 |
| schestowitz__ | >> BTW, I was thinking... it ought not be hard to make category pages | Feb 21 07:11 |
| schestowitz__ | >> linking to the articles, which are already in Gemini anyway. | Feb 21 07:11 |
| schestowitz__ | > It depends. Is there a list of the categories which could be scraped? | Feb 21 07:11 |
| schestowitz__ | I do not know if I can get just a long list of articles for each categories. There might be a wordpress extension for that (although I prefer not to install ANY new software) or we could craft some sql query to return such lists. But only if we decide that a long list of articles (thousands in the case of "Microsoft" or "Europe") is worth it. The very long lists would likely not be suitable for gemini as a medium. | Feb 21 07:11 |
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| schestowitz__ | I have just adjusted my laptop "kavan" to better show me stuff, such as gemini status over proxy in a cycle and TM uptime, social control networks (my locally-hosted copy), webmail (to avoid opening email unless there's something seemingly urgent). This is well overdue. | Feb 21 08:34 |
| schestowitz__ | some people in IRC mention gemini, I think more will def use that over time, the question is, how many? | Feb 21 08:34 |
| Techrights-sec | What is needed for the moment is better availabliity of the Gemini | Feb 21 08:40 |
| Techrights-sec | clients in the official repositories. | Feb 21 08:40 |
| Techrights-sec | There are a lot of good clients now, but they need to find a way to get | Feb 21 08:40 |
| Techrights-sec | in on the next cycle of distro releases. That's not their job though | Feb 21 08:40 |
| Techrights-sec | Instead, packagers need to join those teams and approach the distros. | Feb 21 08:40 |
| schestowitz__ | yes, afaict, debian has not even one! | Feb 21 08:40 |
| Techrights-sec | Packaging is ususally easy but also usually very time consuming | Feb 21 08:40 |
| schestowitz__ | are we legally allowed to offer binaries for archs directly from TR, for different distros we know support that? I hate linking to shithub. | Feb 21 08:41 |
| schestowitz__ | in the daily bulletins, which are included in IPFS, should I add links to gemini alongside the http ones? | Feb 21 08:44 |
| Techrights-sec | Perhaps. Can you show a link to a bulletin? | Feb 21 08:47 |
| schestowitz__ | at the moment, in gemini bulletins are accessed by different url structure from that over www | Feb 21 08:48 |
| Techrights-sec | http://techrights.org/txt/ | Feb 21 08:49 |
| Techrights-sec | A gemini link could be at the top? | Feb 21 08:49 |
| Techrights-sec | But it should go to the day as far as I can tell. | Feb 21 08:49 |
| schestowitz__ | I was thinking more along the lines of, add the gemini links to the index or more importantly top of articles | Feb 21 08:50 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes, the top of the articles would be a good place, but it might be easiest | Feb 21 08:52 |
| Techrights-sec | to jsut use a link to the whole day rather than to the specific article. | Feb 21 08:52 |
| Techrights-sec | perhaps | Feb 21 08:52 |
| schestowitz__ | I can add "Gemini index for the day" at the top part | Feb 21 08:53 |
| schestowitz__ | can you find offhand (reuse) the bash code to produce that URL? | Feb 21 08:54 |
| Techrights-sec | date +"gemini://gemini.techrights.org/%Y/%m/%d/" | Feb 21 08:57 |
| Techrights-sec | date -d "-1 days" +"gemini://gemini.techrights.org/%Y/%m/%d/" | Feb 21 08:57 |
| schestowitz__ | Gemini index for the day: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/02/20/ | Feb 21 09:02 |
| schestowitz__ | testing done, now integrated, will need to watch it carefully tomorrow | Feb 21 09:02 |
| schestowitz__ | the script contains two password to lower user interaction | Feb 21 09:03 |
| Techrights-sec | What is the path to the script in question? | Feb 21 09:04 |
| Techrights-sec | I'm not familiar with the generation of bulletins | Feb 21 09:04 |
| schestowitz__ | text-upload.txt just added to ~/bin (please do not change it as it's not for general use and I want to keep it simple for personal use ;-) ) | Feb 21 09:07 |
| schestowitz__ | .sh (not txt | Feb 21 09:07 |
| schestowitz__ | <li> | Feb 21 09:09 |
| schestowitz__ | <h5><a href="https://uk.pcmag.com/drones/131849/linux-is-now-on-mars-thanks-to-nasas-perseverance-rover">Linux Is Now on Mars, Thanks to NASA's Perseverance Rover</a></h5> | Feb 21 09:09 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-uk.pcmag.com | Linux Is Now on Mars, Thanks to NASA's Perseverance Rover | Feb 21 09:09 | |
| schestowitz__ | <blockquote> | Feb 21 09:09 |
| schestowitz__ | <p>Past Mars rovers have used proprietary OSes, largely from the software company Wind River Systems. The same is true for the Perseverance rover itself; the machine has been installed with Wind River’s VxWorks, which was used on past Mars missions. </p> | Feb 21 09:09 |
| schestowitz__ | <p> However, NASA settled on the Linux OS for the rover’s helicopter-like drone, Ingenuity, which was built using off-the-shelf parts, including Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 801 processor, a smartphone chip.</p></blockquote></li> | Feb 21 09:09 |
| schestowitz__ | (I know there are LOADS of inefficiencies there, but it only takes a few mins to run each day and it's written in a way that I find easy to extend on) | Feb 21 09:10 |
| Techrights-sec | WHich system is it on? | Feb 21 09:11 |
| Techrights-sec | I don't need access, just the above date can be inserted | Feb 21 09:11 |
| Techrights-sec | d=$(date +"gemini://gemini.techrights.org/%Y/%m/%d/") | Feb 21 09:11 |
| Techrights-sec | then treat $d as any other variable for output. | Feb 21 09:11 |
| schestowitz__ | TR homedir | Feb 21 09:11 |
| schestowitz__ | (ℹ) Images, hyperlinks and comments at http://techrights.org/2021/02/20/union-bashing/#comments | Feb 21 09:20 |
| schestowitz__ | Gemini version at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/02/20/union-bashing/ | Feb 21 09:20 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Reckless, Feckless and Factless Campinos ‘Doing a Donald Trump’ on the Staff Union of His Office | Techrights | Feb 21 09:20 | |
| schestowitz__ | I lost all buffer after the line "then treat $d as any other variable for output." | Feb 21 09:23 |
| schestowitz__ | I think I've got it working, but for various reasons I don't want to test the whole thing (it would overwrite existing files). I'll see tomorrow if it runs without errors and whether the output is OK | Feb 21 09:25 |
| schestowitz__ | echo -n "(ℹ) Images, hyperlinks and comments at " >> $IRCDATEFILE | Feb 21 09:26 |
| schestowitz__ | echo $line >> $IRCDATEFILE | Feb 21 09:26 |
| schestowitz__ | echo -n " Gemini version at " >> $IRCDATEFILE | Feb 21 09:26 |
| schestowitz__ | GEM=$(echo $line | sed 's/http:\/\//gemini:\/\/gemini./' | sed 's/#comments//') | Feb 21 09:26 |
| schestowitz__ | echo $GEM >> $IRCDATEFILE | Feb 21 09:26 |
| Techrights-sec | That was about it except for the diff | Feb 21 09:27 |
| Techrights-sec | however, I'd add this diff instead: | Feb 21 09:27 |
| Techrights-sec | $ diff text-upload.sh text-upload.sh.old | Feb 21 09:27 |
| Techrights-sec | 34d33 | Feb 21 09:27 |
| Techrights-sec | < echo $(date --date="$IRCAGE days ago" +"gemini://gemini.techrights.org/%Y/%m/%d/") | Feb 21 09:27 |
| Techrights-sec | 42c41 | Feb 21 09:27 |
| Techrights-sec | < date -d "$d" +"gemini://gemini.techrights.org/%Y/%m/%d/" >> $IRCDATEFILE | Feb 21 09:27 |
| Techrights-sec | --- | Feb 21 09:27 |
| Techrights-sec | > date -d "-1 days" +"gemini://gemini.techrights.org/%Y/%m/%d/" >> $IRCDATEFILE | Feb 21 09:27 |
| Techrights-sec | ok | Feb 21 09:28 |
| Techrights-sec | IF the file is not needed on TR, it can be removed the. | Feb 21 09:28 |
| schestowitz__ | It's only the passwords that worried me a tad bit, as I don't want to scatter them about to old machines, I will expunge these now from the file | Feb 21 09:28 |
| Techrights-sec | ok , good | Feb 21 09:30 |
| Techrights-sec | Sending the bulletin to TR should be done using keys. Those | Feb 21 09:30 |
| Techrights-sec | can be locked into specific rsync formulas at that too | Feb 21 09:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Yes, it's not properly implemented at the moment | Feb 21 09:31 |
| Techrights-sec | sshaskpass can always be avoided | Feb 21 09:36 |
| schestowitz__ | x https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/new-microsoft-office-version-offer-one-time-purchase-available-2021-1688032 | Feb 21 12:00 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.ibtimes.co.uk | New Microsoft Office version to offer one-time purchase available in 2021 | Feb 21 12:00 | |
| schestowitz__ | x https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNKdlnoAqIs | Feb 21 12:02 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.youtube.com | Bill Gates: The 2021 60 Minutes interview - YouTube | Feb 21 12:02 | |
| schestowitz__ | # spam | Feb 21 12:02 |
| schestowitz__ | https://hardforum.com/threads/microsoft-repo-secretly-installed-on-all-raspberry-pis-linux-os.2007764/ | Feb 21 12:16 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-hardforum.com | Microsoft Repo Secretly Installed on all Raspberry Pi’s Linux OS | [H]ard|Forum | Feb 21 12:16 | |
| schestowitz__ | >> https://www.davidrevoy.com/article816/an-islands-you-can-visit-at-low-tide-digital-painting-timelapse-krita-rgba-brushes | Feb 21 12:30 |
| schestowitz__ | >> | Feb 21 12:30 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.davidrevoy.com | An Islands You Can Visit at Low Tide - Digital Painting Timelapse - Krita RGBA Brushes - David Revoy | Feb 21 12:31 | |
| schestowitz__ | >> | Feb 21 12:31 |
| schestowitz__ | >> I like this guy's work.> | Feb 21 12:31 |
| schestowitz__ | > Thanks :-) and, yes, he does some great stuff ... really like all the | Feb 21 12:31 |
| schestowitz__ | > little details, colours and textures he gets into the various parts of | Feb 21 12:31 |
| schestowitz__ | > the castle; makes the awesome environment around it stand out even more, | Feb 21 12:31 |
| schestowitz__ | > too. | Feb 21 12:31 |
| schestowitz__ | >> That's actually far better than I thought. I wonder, what would happen | Feb 21 12:35 |
| schestowitz__ | >> if we hard/soft-linked the bulletins and IRC logs across different | Feb 21 12:36 |
| schestowitz__ | >> users' account (if possible) instead of copying them across. There's | Feb 21 12:36 |
| schestowitz__ | >> duplication. | Feb 21 12:36 |
| schestowitz__ | > Good idea. Linking would save a lot of space, but the symbolic links | Feb 21 12:36 |
| schestowitz__ | > would probably be best since they are the most visible and hardest to | Feb 21 12:36 |
| schestowitz__ | > forget that they are links. Hardlnks can often mistakenly get converted | Feb 21 12:36 |
| schestowitz__ | > to copies with clumsy handling. Been there, done that. :( | Feb 21 12:36 |
| schestowitz__ | I think cross-user permissions issues would be the hard thing (gemini and ipfs). | Feb 21 12:36 |
| schestowitz__ | When I set up gemini I thought those static files would be easiest as a first step or experiment. But I didn't think of linking rather than copying across as space was not (yet) an issue. | Feb 21 12:36 |
| schestowitz__ | >> One risk associated with CMS changes (except the security patches; those | Feb 21 12:38 |
| schestowitz__ | >> can be applied more easily) is breaking of redirections and URLs long | Feb 21 12:38 |
| schestowitz__ | >> used by people. Back in the old days there were several different URLs | Feb 21 12:38 |
| schestowitz__ | >> for Atom and RSS 1.2/2. I'm sure that with "GUTENBERG" and other fake | Feb 21 12:38 |
| schestowitz__ | >> innovation they already break some fine stuff, which I am reluctant to | Feb 21 12:38 |
| schestowitz__ | >> explore. | Feb 21 12:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > I'm still going to risk it and rem out this line in .htaccess | Feb 21 12:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Feb 21 12:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > # RedirectMatch permanent ^/xmlrpc.php$ | Feb 21 12:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > http://boycottnovell.com/wp-rss2.php │ | Feb 21 12:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Feb 21 12:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > and replace it with this one | Feb 21 12:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Feb 21 12:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > RedirectMatch permanent ^/xmlrpc.php$ http://boycottnovell.com/feed/ | Feb 21 12:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Feb 21 12:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > That eliminates one or two unnecessary server lookups per query. | Feb 21 12:39 |
| schestowitz__ | Seems decent, though our biggest bottlebnecks are outside this scope (mostly DB). Kaniini sped up things a great deal. | Feb 21 12:39 |
| schestowitz__ | >> I spent a lot of time the other week trying to figure out why wordpress, | Feb 21 12:39 |
| schestowitz__ | >> after I had set it up, would not let me compose anything. I thought it | Feb 21 12:39 |
| schestowitz__ | >> was a server problem. Turned out "GUTENBERG" is JS mess and without JS | Feb 21 12:39 |
| schestowitz__ | >> turned out it acts all weird and funny. I heard their UI person resigned | Feb 21 12:39 |
| schestowitz__ | >> over the "GUTENBERG" decision, which they still bragged about 2 days | Feb 21 12:39 |
| schestowitz__ | >> ago: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147897>> Javascript is a mess and the people who promote it are professional | Feb 21 12:39 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Reflecting on Gutenberg’s 100th Release | Tux Machines | Feb 21 12:39 | |
| schestowitz__ | > messmakers. | Feb 21 12:39 |
| schestowitz__ | All this bloat complicates maintenance, and this means raising costs. Or time... | Feb 21 12:39 |
| schestowitz__ | >> I think cross-user permissions issues would be the hard thing (gemini | Feb 21 12:43 |
| schestowitz__ | >> and ipfs). | Feb 21 12:43 |
| schestowitz__ | > It's "just" to make a group and put both accounts in it, then use that | Feb 21 12:43 |
| schestowitz__ | > group for the directories and files. | Feb 21 12:43 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Feb 21 12:43 |
| schestowitz__ | > BTW, I've improved the handling of blockquotes conversion into Gemini. | Feb 21 12:43 |
| schestowitz__ | > It's not feasible to retrofit all the material which is already | Feb 21 12:43 |
| schestowitz__ | > converted but new documents will be better. | Feb 21 12:43 |
| schestowitz__ | I think that older pages will certainly be accessed less (Nada, Tizen, Novell and other out of date stuff), so if we were ever to regenerate pages I think recently is what matters most. We once thought about making our site static. Now we're sort of closer to that. | Feb 21 12:43 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | 2008 is in place now, I think there will be time to process both 2007 and 2006 | Feb 21 17:29 |
| Techrights-sec2 | tomorrow | Feb 21 17:29 |
| schestowitz__ | excellent. I noticed the upload speeds being lower than usual (new video), so I then checked and saw the activity on the pi and its source IO | Feb 21 17:30 |
| schestowitz__ | *IP | Feb 21 17:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Sometimes it feels like on the most "difficult" subjects we're the only ones not silenced or shames into apathy yet | Feb 21 17:30 |
| schestowitz__ | *shamed | Feb 21 17:31 |
| schestowitz__ | though I could use some more topics to cover, I'm off work till Sat | Feb 21 17:31 |
| Techrights-sec2 | well there are a lot of old topics which could be revisited but only once | Feb 21 17:35 |
| Techrights-sec2 | new data is available | Feb 21 17:35 |
| Techrights-sec2 | The backup should take another 15 minutes. It's just the articles, | Feb 21 17:35 |
| Techrights-sec2 | not bulletins and other things. | Feb 21 17:35 |
| Techrights-sec2 | 67.7KB/s | Feb 21 17:35 |
| Techrights-sec2 | A whole week off? | Feb 21 17:35 |
| schestowitz__ | I use up what's left of my annual quote (which gets reset at the end of this month each year) | Feb 21 17:35 |
| schestowitz__ | I could really use help (time has not helped; I spent hours on this) trying to figure out how to edit videos from the CLI, e.g. to insert a demo sequence. Anything that I saw has been rather complicated and involved a messy process. Our videos are still too raw and I still don't know when I can get a decent microphone. I gave up on noise reduction as a decent DSP (physical) can do the job better). | Feb 21 17:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I don't have any experience with video editing via the shell. | Feb 21 17:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I did see a tip about a graphical editor Olive or something. | Feb 21 17:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | It's been aboubt 20 years since I did digital video anyway. | Feb 21 17:38 |
| schestowitz__ | Olive was mentioned by Robertson (AU) before the weekend | Feb 21 17:38 |
| schestowitz__ | If I cannot automate and streamline is, e.g. add_demo.sh *.webm , then I'm not too interested as it would not be good use of time | Feb 21 17:39 |
| Techrights-sec2 | https://www.olivevideoeditor.org/ | Feb 21 17:40 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.olivevideoeditor.org | Olive - Professional Open-Source Video Editor | Feb 21 17:40 | |
| Techrights-sec2 | Video editing tates a lot of time. The major vloggers spend full time and get o one or two per week done | Feb 21 17:41 |
| schestowitz__ | exactly! | Feb 21 17:41 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Not a good ROI IMO | Feb 21 17:41 |
| schestowitz__ | That "geer" dude who covered raspi did lots of seaming and scripting, it's so obvious | Feb 21 17:42 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ffmpeg ought to merge separate videos | Feb 21 17:42 |
| Techrights-sec2 | but not sure how to do it at specific time points | Feb 21 17:42 |
| schestowitz__ | Yes, ffmpeg can do that, but then re-encodes the whole lot. For one-hour video it's expensive | Feb 21 17:43 |
| schestowitz__ | One other option is, in webcamoid I can do video playback before I start (there's an option for it), maybe I'll experiment with it now | Feb 21 17:43 |
| Techrights-sec2 | It cen be done without re-encoding with ffmpeg | Feb 21 17:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | there iare some options which need to get passed for that to be skipped | Feb 21 17:44 |
| schestowitz__ | I am going to check. Do you know a site that helps 'script' video demos (like, give me some text and choose template, I'll give you a video sequence)? | Feb 21 17:45 |
| Techrights-sec2 | But AFAIK ffmpeg has no 'insert' option. So fist split, then concatenate. | Feb 21 17:46 |
| Techrights-sec2 | No idea. | Feb 21 17:46 |
| schestowitz__ | I will experiment for a bit... | Feb 21 17:46 |
| Techrights-sec2 | The splitting is probably best done with the GUI so that a specific | Feb 21 17:48 |
| Techrights-sec2 | frame can be used, or at least the extra trimmed off. | Feb 21 17:48 |
| schestowitz__ | I will check if I can do that in recording time, prior to changing to focal | Feb 21 17:49 |
| schestowitz__ | in the meantime I'm thinking, what commands would let me soft-link latest new files in tr-bulletins+irc instead of copying them across... I suppose some chrmod and chgrp would be needed | Feb 21 17:50 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ln -s | Feb 21 22:27 |
| Techrights-sec2 | but combined with find maybe? | Feb 21 22:27 |
| Techrights-sec2 | with cp --reflink os one option | Feb 21 22:27 |
| Techrights-sec2 | cp --reflink=always | Feb 21 22:27 |
| Techrights-sec2 | that makes a hardlnk | Feb 21 22:27 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I think ~/bin/copy-tr-to-gemini.sh in gemini ought to do it, but there | Feb 21 22:27 |
| Techrights-sec2 | are access problems to ~gxxxx/tr_text_version/ | Feb 21 22:27 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I've moved the old files into not.tr_text_version to leave space for the | Feb 21 22:27 |
| Techrights-sec2 | hardlinks | Feb 21 22:27 |
| Techrights-sec2 | stat --printf "%i\t%n\n" /home/gemini/gemini/tr_text_version/techrights-2021-02-05.txt ~xxx/tr_text_version/techrights-2021-02-0 | Feb 21 22:27 |
| Techrights-sec2 | 5.txt | Feb 21 22:27 |
| Techrights-sec2 | shows copies not links | Feb 21 22:27 |
| Techrights-sec2 | $ cat ~gemini/bin/copy-tr-to-gemini.sh | Feb 21 22:27 |
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| schestowitz__ | excellent, this seems to have worked very well (I was asleep when this was typed about). I have added that to the cron job and swapped out the script, so tonight I have a total of 3 things to check (gemini index, gemini links, cron job) | Feb 21 23:33 |
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