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schestowitz-TR | In case it is an FS thing, I've checkeded the video dir for zero-size files and nothing there | Apr 21 00:34 |
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schestowitz-TR | now I test TM backups on TR | Apr 21 00:34 |
schestowitz-TR | the one for apr 19 returned an error, 16 also, 17 OK, 15 not OK (gunzip fails), 13, 14, 20 also | Apr 21 00:34 |
schestowitz-TR | damaged | Apr 21 00:34 |
schestowitz-TR | "invalid compressed data--format violated" | Apr 21 00:34 |
schestowitz-TR | on TM:/home/boycottn I can gunzip the fole OK | Apr 21 00:34 |
schestowitz-TR | I am now testing TR wordpress backup | Apr 21 00:34 |
schestowitz-TR | 20/04 fails, (same error as for TM gunzip), 19/04 fails also, 18/04 works OK, 8gb not compressed, | Apr 21 00:34 |
schestowitz-TR | 17 fails, 16 fails, 15 fails, 14 (oldest) fdails also | Apr 21 00:34 |
schestowitz-TR | so of all the backups only 18-04 iis usable for TR wordpress, I checked head and tail of the dump too | Apr 21 00:34 |
schestowitz-TR | in /var/log/messages I see nothing of interest. with wiki db dump, gunzip ok with 20-04,19-04, NOT 18-04, | Apr 21 00:40 |
schestowitz-TR | 17 through 14-04 are all OK. AFAIK, we never properly tested any of the backup on this new server until | Apr 21 00:40 |
schestowitz-TR | this month, so maybe gzip running so fast on many cores leads to it? I'm only guessing. Best check/safe | Apr 21 00:40 |
schestowitz-TR | than be sorry later. | Apr 21 00:40 |
schestowitz-TR | drupaldatabase is a lot smaller, 14,18, and 20 fail to gunzip, the rest are OK | Apr 21 00:45 |
schestowitz-TR | I've tested the hypothesis this is an old issue, undetected until now | Apr 21 01:03 |
schestowitz-TR | I tried to uncopmpress 5 files (one 2022, 2 2021, 2 from 2020) and they all worked fine | Apr 21 01:03 |
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Techrights-sec | we do have the temporary machine to test backups on for a few more days | Apr 21 09:38 |
Techrights-sec | whois $(host itwire.com 2>&1 | awk '/address/ {print $4; exit}') | grep "^Org" | Apr 21 09:38 |
Techrights-sec | :( | Apr 21 09:38 |
Techrights-sec | AFAIK a recent change | Apr 21 09:38 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 21 09:38 |
schestowitz-TR | woke up afteer belated easter rest | Apr 21 09:38 |
schestowitz-TR | will catch up here shortly | Apr 21 09:38 |
schestowitz-TR | want to post some links, catch up with irc, and gemini first | Apr 21 09:38 |
schestowitz-TR | OK, I am ready now | Apr 21 09:42 |
schestowitz-TR | checking itwire | Apr 21 09:42 |
schestowitz-TR | I don't have whois installed and prefer to minimise number of new packages | Apr 21 09:42 |
schestowitz-TR | what does the output show? | Apr 21 09:42 |
schestowitz-TR | Also: | Apr 21 09:42 |
schestowitz-TR | 1) did you see the gemni ling about long covid and taste | Apr 21 09:42 |
schestowitz-TR | 2) i suspect the gif meme issue might be a coincidence or it could be anyone, but I assured myself it's a sole casee | Apr 21 09:42 |
schestowitz-TR | 3) after (2) I decided to revisit a week-old issue we forgot about with gunzip, I reckon the dumps are fine, | Apr 21 09:42 |
schestowitz-TR | compressing them is the issue | Apr 21 09:42 |
Techrights-sec | try here, it's installed | Apr 21 09:46 |
Techrights-sec | 1) not yet | Apr 21 09:46 |
Techrights-sec | 2) ?? | Apr 21 09:46 |
Techrights-sec | 3) strange that gzip is not reliable | Apr 21 09:46 |
Techrights-sec | port xxxxxxx | Apr 21 09:50 |
Techrights-sec | no, but I can guess at what it says about symptoms | Apr 21 09:50 |
Techrights-sec | https://www.nhsinform.scot/long-term-effects-of-covid-19-long-covid/signs-and-symptoms/long-covid-loss-of-smell-or-taste/ | Apr 21 09:50 |
Techrights-sec | :/ | Apr 21 09:50 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nhsinform.scot | Long COVID: Loss of smell or taste | Long-term effects of COVID-19 | Apr 21 09:50 | |
Techrights-sec | https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0265686 | Apr 21 09:54 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-journals.plos.org | Persisting olfactory dysfunction in post-COVID-19 is associated with gustatory impairment: Results from chemosensitive testing eight months after the acute infection | Apr 21 09:54 | |
schestowitz-TR | "The horrible virus has done my tastebuds in. This is *deeply* annoying and frustrating for me. If I try and eat meat or some forms | Apr 21 09:56 |
schestowitz-TR | of citrus then it tastes of cigarettes." gemini://bad-gateway.smol.pub/20220420 | Apr 21 09:56 |
schestowitz-TR | I'm connected to the server (test), I see it's public_html only, was about to test gunzip on older backups | Apr 21 09:56 |
schestowitz-TR | I choose to think that the gif file becoming empty was an accident, at worse vandalism, at worst 'inside job' (LF) | Apr 21 09:56 |
schestowitz-TR | but the gunzip think seems to be older, it's just that we noticed it thanks [sic] to the TM incident | Apr 21 09:56 |
schestowitz-TR | and last night I realised it was also affecting TR backups | Apr 21 09:56 |
schestowitz-TR | testing the 3 TR backups from last night with gunzip, just out of curiousity | Apr 21 10:00 |
schestowitz-TR | tbh, if one in two works OK, then we might be 'safe', but this is not the way it shoudld work | Apr 21 10:00 |
schestowitz-TR | and I saw no system level warnings that should suggest file system level problems | Apr 21 10:01 |
schestowitz-TR | OK, wordpress dump from this morning works OK | Apr 21 10:01 |
schestowitz-TR | i did head and tail on it too | Apr 21 10:01 |
schestowitz-TR | it's 7.8gb | Apr 21 10:01 |
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schestowitz-TR | this morning's drupal DB is 'bad' (rather, the gz file) | Apr 21 10:01 |
schestowitz-TR | wiki is OK | Apr 21 10:01 |
schestowitz-TR | wiki OK for 2 mornings in a row now, 1.1gb uncompressed | Apr 21 10:01 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 21 10:01 |
Techrights-sec | reading gemini link atm | Apr 21 10:01 |
Techrights-sec | yes I've not unpacked much more than that | Apr 21 10:01 |
Techrights-sec | I'm doing backups again atm and will test the compression in about 20 to 30 | Apr 21 10:01 |
Techrights-sec | minutes | Apr 21 10:01 |
Techrights-sec | troubling | Apr 21 10:01 |
Techrights-sec | could a disk be going bad? | Apr 21 10:01 |
schestowitz-TR | that's what I'd like to know | Apr 21 10:02 |
schestowitz-TR | but other than that meme file becoming zero sized with system datastamp not changed | Apr 21 10:02 |
schestowitz-TR | I did not notice any other problem | Apr 21 10:02 |
schestowitz-TR | also, all the video checksums are always OK | Apr 21 10:02 |
schestowitz-TR | TM and TR are on the same physical host | Apr 21 10:11 |
schestowitz-TR | On TM, last night I attempted to gunzip ther single singhly dump | Apr 21 10:11 |
schestowitz-TR | it waent OK and one minute ago I did this morning's dump too. it went OK. | Apr 21 10:11 |
schestowitz-TR | I'm willing to not write anything for a while just to ensure we test our backups and don't lose site files | Apr 21 10:11 |
schestowitz-TR | other than the meme mystery I could not see any other issue, but you might want to run a seatch for zero-sized files | Apr 21 10:11 |
schestowitz-TR | not sure if awk is needed, I think bash and fnd can do | Apr 21 10:11 |
Techrights-sec | find can do it | Apr 21 10:22 |
Techrights-sec | find /path/ -type f -size 0c -print | Apr 21 10:22 |
schestowitz-TR | do you want to run that or should I? | Apr 21 10:23 |
schestowitz-TR | Like I said, assuming vandalism, even echo '' > file | Apr 21 10:23 |
schestowitz-TR | the time stamp on that empty file would be changed | Apr 21 10:23 |
Techrights-sec | which path? | Apr 21 10:24 |
Techrights-sec | yes in most, but not all, cases | Apr 21 10:24 |
schestowitz-TR | let's try the whole user ~ | Apr 21 10:25 |
schestowitz-TR | see if we can find a pattern of interest | Apr 21 10:25 |
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Techrights-sec | ok I will run it, I suppost ionice should be used with it | Apr 21 10:29 |
Techrights-sec | see /tmp/find.log | Apr 21 10:29 |
schestowitz-TR | thanks, looking.... | Apr 21 10:29 |
schestowitz-TR | i | Apr 21 10:38 |
schestowitz-TR | so far it looks OK | Apr 21 10:38 |
schestowitz-TR | the VID files I think I uploaded temporarily there and later flushed them | Apr 21 10:38 |
schestowitz-TR | the rest are things like locks (so far) | Apr 21 10:38 |
schestowitz-TR | we need to back up root /root sometimes | Apr 21 10:38 |
schestowitz-TR | nothing critical there, but if lost, we'd have to restore stuff from there | Apr 21 10:38 |
schestowitz-TR | some of it is ancient (>10 years ago) | Apr 21 10:38 |
schestowitz-TR | I see two "other links" empty, but that's probably by design | Apr 21 10:39 |
schestowitz-TR | EOF :-) | Apr 21 10:39 |
schestowitz-TR | OK, much of that I can justify as "yes, makes sense" | Apr 21 10:39 |
schestowitz-TR | the file that I saw empty yesterday I still suspect was rubbed off | Apr 21 10:39 |
schestowitz-TR | maybe by someone who did not like the meme | Apr 21 10:39 |
schestowitz-TR | but the guzip thing was VERY VERY important to the bottom of regardless | Apr 21 10:39 |
schestowitz-TR | maybe guzip ~/archive/*.gz | Apr 21 10:39 |
schestowitz-TR | to see what's the "earliest" bad GZ file | Apr 21 10:39 |
schestowitz-TR | if you have a copy of that offline | Apr 21 10:39 |
schestowitz-TR | or just -t for testing | Apr 21 10:39 |
schestowitz-TR | which I guess I could do on the live server? | Apr 21 10:39 |
schestowitz-TR | remember: THIS IS MY LIFE'S and SUSAN's and RIANNE'S work, inc. on holidays | Apr 21 10:39 |
schestowitz-TR | and although we're not a "BANK" this data will need to be secured for history's sake | Apr 21 10:39 |
schestowitz-TR | we don't have a bank's budget, but see what happened to Groklaw just a few years down the line | Apr 21 10:39 |
Techrights-sec | ok | Apr 21 10:40 |
Techrights-sec | yes those were probably days when the old file was appened instead of the | Apr 21 10:40 |
Techrights-sec | new file; the new work flow reduces the likelihood of that | Apr 21 10:40 |
Techrights-sec | which GIF? | Apr 21 10:40 |
schestowitz-TR | re the gif file, see what I wrote last night and then pasted again an hour ago | Apr 21 10:40 |
Techrights-sec | remember the -c option | Apr 21 10:41 |
Techrights-sec | yes I will try with the offline copy | Apr 21 10:41 |
Techrights-sec | best not to mess with the live copy | Apr 21 10:41 |
Techrights-sec | either way it will be slow; processing ... | Apr 21 10:41 |
Techrights-sec | yes | Apr 21 10:41 |
Techrights-sec | groklaw made some mistakes (perhaps intentionally) regarding conversion | Apr 21 10:42 |
Techrights-sec | to a static site | Apr 21 10:42 |
Techrights-sec | I don't have the scroll back and did not notice a URL for a GIF either time | Apr 21 10:42 |
Techrights-sec | or a path | Apr 21 10:42 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 21 10:46 |
schestowitz-TR | let's leave that aside, suppose the file system is OK | Apr 21 10:55 |
schestowitz-TR | I did some gulagwandering for forums re gzip/gunzip | Apr 21 10:55 |
schestowitz-TR | assuming maybe the hardware itself can damage the integrity of the archive | Apr 21 10:55 |
schestowitz-TR | because, afaik, since moving to this server we never had to restart a DB | Apr 21 10:55 |
schestowitz-TR | until this month | Apr 21 10:55 |
schestowitz-TR | if we find some bad archives from 2021, then we know it's not a new issue | Apr 21 10:55 |
schestowitz-TR | and predates thec change of physical media in February (IIRC) | Apr 21 10:55 |
schestowitz-TR | I mean, restore a DB, not restart a DB | Apr 21 10:56 |
schestowitz-TR | but we rarely had to restart the DB as well, since the DBs got moved to a container of their own | Apr 21 10:56 |
Techrights-sec | there is also the question of LXC, I don't know how experimental it is | Apr 21 10:57 |
Techrights-sec | It will take a while longer to finish the regular backups and then | Apr 21 10:57 |
Techrights-sec | run gunzip -c on the files | Apr 21 10:57 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 21 10:57 |
schestowitz-TR | I guess that I should be relieved that as a side effect of this mishap/incident we're made to look | Apr 21 11:01 |
schestowitz-TR | closely into a real issue, and moreover do some sanity checks | Apr 21 11:01 |
schestowitz-TR | there were some blessings in disguide lately, like finding out about obs studio due to noisetorch/kde neon woes | Apr 21 11:01 |
schestowitz-TR | and distributing tuxmachines DB dumbs across 12-hour intervansl, among other things | Apr 21 11:01 |
schestowitz-TR | as I said, writing new nmaterial is far less important than assuring the integrity of masses of old material | Apr 21 11:02 |
schestowitz-TR | not many sites can last this long in an age with a "long term support" is just 5 years | Apr 21 11:02 |
schestowitz-TR | and media shifting, host shifting etc. is routinely required | Apr 21 11:02 |
schestowitz-TR | we already moved this setup a lot, 2 moved (or 3 including initial) under this host | Apr 21 11:02 |
schestowitz-TR | plus a migration to another physical drive, jyst months ago | Apr 21 11:02 |
schestowitz-TR | thgis is 'the fun' of 'IT' | Apr 21 11:02 |
schestowitz-TR | imagine other disciplines being so volatil | Apr 21 11:02 |
schestowitz-TR | *volatile | Apr 21 11:04 |
schestowitz-TR | this will have ramifications on a professional and personal level | Apr 21 11:04 |
schestowitz-TR | already you hear of tons ofm people who "lose all their photos | Apr 21 11:04 |
schestowitz-TR | stolen pphone, bad driver, "clown" shutdown (apropos isteon(TM)) | Apr 21 11:04 |
schestowitz-TR | so by pushing people off physical firm you assure they're forgotten fast | Apr 21 11:04 |
schestowitz-TR | *physical film | Apr 21 11:04 |
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Techrights-sec | yes | Apr 21 11:05 |
Techrights-sec | there are interests which benefit from the chaos and churn however | Apr 21 11:05 |
Techrights-sec | (on a general level, globally) | Apr 21 11:05 |
schestowitz-TR | they should transform the NSA into "photo restortation services Inc." | Apr 21 11:07 |
schestowitz-TR | finally some positive use for these drift nets of data | Apr 21 11:07 |
schestowitz-TR | (I have millions of files on my external drives, some are backups for relatives too, like a "vault" of sorts) | Apr 21 11:07 |
schestowitz-TR | (every x years the ccaapcity doubles and the "old" drive can be copied into the new, with spare space leftr) | Apr 21 11:07 |
Techrights-sec | :/ it is probably all there in Utah | Apr 21 11:09 |
schestowitz-TR | 3 years ago it added the 'assange file' to it collectiobs | Apr 21 11:10 |
schestowitz-TR | sent from london | Apr 21 11:10 |
Techrights-sec | yes though even on normal drives, bits can flip for no good reason | Apr 21 11:11 |
Techrights-sec | thus the work on OpenZFS and BtrFS in that regards | Apr 21 11:11 |
schestowitz-TR | microsoft, oracle | Apr 21 11:13 |
schestowitz-TR | not much for them to gain from data integrity | Apr 21 11:13 |
schestowitz-TR | too busy w/ graft | Apr 21 11:13 |
schestowitz-TR | then coverup | Apr 21 11:13 |
Techrights-sec | looking at the backups, some recent backups have not been gzipped | Apr 21 11:17 |
Techrights-sec | drupaldatabase-20220419.dump | Apr 21 11:17 |
Techrights-sec | wikidatabase-20220420.dump | Apr 21 11:17 |
Techrights-sec | wikidatabase-20220421.dump | Apr 21 11:17 |
Techrights-sec | wordpressdatabase-20220421.dump | Apr 21 11:17 |
Techrights-sec | if not also some others | Apr 21 11:17 |
Techrights-sec | they should remaain gzipped, the program has a -cc option to avoid | Apr 21 11:17 |
Techrights-sec | affecting the file itself while decompressing | Apr 21 11:17 |
Techrights-sec | the backup drive on this end does not have infinite free space | Apr 21 11:17 |
Techrights-sec | and mysql dumps compress nicely, when they are not corrupted | Apr 21 11:17 |
Techrights-sec | np | Apr 21 11:18 |
Techrights-sec | ok, rerunning the backup | Apr 21 11:18 |
schestowitz-TR | this is me 'testing' them | Apr 21 11:18 |
schestowitz-TR | sorry about that, yes, I did delete some "bad" files afterwards | Apr 21 11:18 |
schestowitz-TR | I think that only for TM the on-server stack of backups goes years back | Apr 21 11:18 |
Techrights-sec | Apr 19 still is uncompressed in the cache on TR | Apr 21 11:20 |
schestowitz-TR | I have deleted it since because this morning's (21) deflated OK | Apr 21 11:20 |
schestowitz-TR | for this past week, the wordpress backups were mostly 'bad' (the GZ files were) | Apr 21 11:20 |
schestowitz-TR | it is a bit scary to think that we can go on for almost a week if not weeks without a working DB dump | Apr 21 11:20 |
schestowitz-TR | to recover from if needed | Apr 21 11:20 |
Techrights-sec | I will compress these on TR: | Apr 21 11:28 |
Techrights-sec | /home/boycottn/drupaldatabase-20220419.dump | Apr 21 11:28 |
Techrights-sec | /home/boycottn/wikidatabase-20220420.dump | Apr 21 11:28 |
Techrights-sec | /home/boycottn/wikidatabase-20220421.dump | Apr 21 11:28 |
Techrights-sec | /home/boycottn/wordpressdatabase-20220421.dump | Apr 21 11:28 |
Techrights-sec | yes, but it is more scary to think about the filesystem or the | Apr 21 11:28 |
Techrights-sec | obsolete, defunct operating system | Apr 21 11:28 |
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schestowitz-TR | yes, I tested this one last night and many more too | Apr 21 11:47 |
schestowitz-TR | for 21 it's OK, also on the local (TM) machine | Apr 21 11:47 |
schestowitz-TR | or ratther, that one alone is OK, today at 5pm we'll see if the remote too is OK | Apr 21 11:47 |
schestowitz-TR | what I'd like to know is, when did we start getting bad dumps and why | Apr 21 11:47 |
schestowitz-TR | I did not sleep well because of this | Apr 21 11:47 |
Techrights-sec | ok rsyncing files to the local drive ... | Apr 21 11:47 |
Techrights-sec | gzip: tm-db-20220420.dump.gz: invalid compressed data--format violated | Apr 21 11:47 |
Techrights-sec | :( | Apr 21 11:47 |
Techrights-sec | gzip: tm-db-20220419.dump.gz: invalid compressed data--format violated | Apr 21 11:47 |
Techrights-sec | ok it the next dump will be at 20:12 or so, server time | Apr 21 11:47 |
Techrights-sec | agreed. it is an important question | Apr 21 11:47 |
schestowitz-TR | what we do know it that it predates the issues we had on the tuxmachines web site | Apr 21 11:48 |
schestowitz-TR | because we checked dumps going a week prior to it | Apr 21 11:49 |
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Techrights-sec | https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2022-1271 | Apr 21 11:51 |
Techrights-sec | probably not relevant but indicative of a need to upgrade | Apr 21 11:51 |
Techrights-sec | tm-db-20220418.dump.gz is ok | Apr 21 11:51 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-security-tracker.debian.org | CVE-2022-1271 | Apr 21 11:51 | |
Techrights-sec | yes | Apr 21 12:03 |
schestowitz-TR | rianne is posting in TM now | Apr 21 12:09 |
schestowitz-TR | I will try to focus not on posts today but more pressing stuff | Apr 21 12:09 |
schestowitz-TR | anyway, one slow week in two decades is not a big deal | Apr 21 12:09 |
schestowitz-TR | there's a lack of important news anyhow (not just in software) | Apr 21 12:09 |
schestowitz-TR | seems like it was a lot more dynamic 10+ years ago | Apr 21 12:10 |
schestowitz-TR | not latest android, or apps, or clown... the industry is stagnating for sure | Apr 21 12:10 |
schestowitz-TR | there is nothing exciting in the new release of ubuntu | Apr 21 12:10 |
schestowitz-TR | and vista * became a shoddy, restrictive "apps" and "advertisiing" (spying) platform | Apr 21 12:10 |
schestowitz-TR | you merely rent to be used | Apr 21 12:10 |
schestowitz-TR | when you give "the people" very shoddy tools (phone and apps) their ability to organise | Apr 21 12:10 |
schestowitz-TR | and make meaningful change ism impeded greratly | Apr 21 12:10 |
schestowitz-TR | and centralisation means you can 'switch people off' | Apr 21 12:10 |
schestowitz-TR | like therew was remorse 'up there' about giving peopple too much power and autonomy | Apr 21 12:10 |
schestowitz-TR | and now it is hip to have spy home ("smart") and rent culture in spotify/netflix | Apr 21 12:10 |
schestowitz-TR | and sharing something with neighbours is like terrorism | Apr 21 12:10 |
Techrights-sec | there are only a small fraction of people at work as tech journalists | Apr 21 12:10 |
Techrights-sec | nowadays compared to even 10 years ago and of those that remain, most | Apr 21 12:10 |
Techrights-sec | are on the payroll of m$ directly or indirectly | Apr 21 12:10 |
Techrights-sec | tm-db-20220417.dump.gz is ok | Apr 21 12:10 |
Techrights-sec | their general productivity goes down and they have to struggle to stay | Apr 21 12:10 |
Techrights-sec | afloat | Apr 21 12:10 |
schestowitz-TR | [10:21] <techrights-news> "The UK has an obligation not to send any person to a place where their life or safety is at risk and the g | Apr 21 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR | overnment must not abdicate that responsibility." https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/assange-extradition-order-issued,-se | Apr 21 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR | nt-to-home-sec-for-approval.html | Source: IT Wire (sadly, this site was outsourced to Microsoft criminals) | Apr 21 12:14 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/assange-extradition-order-issued,-se ) | Apr 21 12:14 | |
schestowitz-TR | I wonder | Apr 21 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR | 1) what this means to work tools of Sam (Email 'collaboration | Apr 21 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR | 2) pressure from above, inc. "suggestions" of topics to cover | Apr 21 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR | His "sauce" blog had its rss feed break many times over the years | Apr 21 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR | they used mambo, then joomla iirc | Apr 21 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR | their site is technically quite a mess | Apr 21 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR | sometimes very slow, sometimes clownflare, sometimes JS a must | Apr 21 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR | stan beer left and now there's some guy I never heard of | Apr 21 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR | their home it to make a profit by some ads, job ads, and puff pieces | Apr 21 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR | sam is not very technical, but he always had a big mouth and was non-conformist | Apr 21 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR | we used to chat a lot behind the scenes | Apr 21 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR | he did get told off my management, iirc, to the point where they removed some | Apr 21 12:14 |
schestowitz-TR | of his articles | Apr 21 12:14 |
Techrights-sec | checking all the gzipped dumps stored here will take a while | Apr 21 12:15 |
Techrights-sec | well the seem to have given him a stout kick in the ass with this recent move | Apr 21 12:15 |
Techrights-sec | "change the system from within" is at best appeasement, which ... | Apr 21 12:19 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 21 12:19 |
schestowitz-TR | you know, I always laughed at this whole "change the system from within" | Apr 21 12:20 |
schestowitz-TR | unless you are an evil mole like elop | Apr 21 12:20 |
schestowitz-TR | aral balkan joked about greta thunberg joining exxon | Apr 21 12:20 |
schestowitz-TR | or the people joining the army to reform it... as if they could | Apr 21 12:20 |
schestowitz-TR | now, in sam's case, he has always worked alongside very troublesome colleagues | Apr 21 12:20 |
schestowitz-TR | many vanished, I still remember some names | Apr 21 12:20 |
schestowitz-TR | some are microsoft boosters in other sites now | Apr 21 12:20 |
schestowitz-TR | e.g. dave winder in forbes | Apr 21 12:20 |
schestowitz-TR | sam stayed there very long | Apr 21 12:20 |
schestowitz-TR | whitney webb started her own blog late | Apr 21 12:20 |
schestowitz-TR | chris hedges is having his work purged | Apr 21 12:20 |
schestowitz-TR | first truthdig | Apr 21 12:20 |
schestowitz-TR | and now gulagtube | Apr 21 12:20 |
schestowitz-TR | there's a lesson to be learned from all this, but if you don't teach people basic technical skills | Apr 21 12:20 |
schestowitz-TR | their blog will collpase at some point and data will be lost | Apr 21 12:20 |
schestowitz-TR | that goes back to the point I made above ^^ about keeping people powerless | Apr 21 12:20 |
schestowitz-TR | dis-empowering people for collectiuve control over them | Apr 21 12:20 |
schestowitz-TR | inc. journalists | Apr 21 12:20 |
schestowitz-TR | sorry to go on a tangent here, but I do think the nature of our hosting (OS upgrade due) gives us high poitential | Apr 21 12:25 |
schestowitz-TR | and advantage, both for TM and TR | Apr 21 12:25 |
schestowitz-TR | phoronix has contraints to do with cost, e.g. electric bills | Apr 21 12:25 |
schestowitz-TR | other sites need to hire expensive tech support to keep going | Apr 21 12:25 |
schestowitz-TR | we have one such client with SLA at work | Apr 21 12:25 |
schestowitz-TR | they are activvists for human rights | Apr 21 12:25 |
schestowitz-TR | but must get support contracts for the tech side | Apr 21 12:25 |
schestowitz-TR | LXer linked to pro-Microsoft article yesterday | Apr 21 12:25 |
schestowitz-TR | they linked to us days ago (as noted today), the traffic they bring these days is minuscule | Apr 21 12:25 |
schestowitz-TR | like x10 less than 10-15 years ago | Apr 21 12:25 |
schestowitz-TR | Linux Today the same | Apr 21 12:25 |
schestowitz-TR | but at the same time social control media becames only/mostly politics/gossip, by intention (to "look big") | Apr 21 12:25 |
schestowitz-TR | right now we attract sources and whistleblowers simply because they have nowhere else to turn | Apr 21 12:25 |
schestowitz-TR | some got censored elsewhere, e.g. Medium vs Lewis | Apr 21 12:25 |
schestowitz-TR | EPO has muzzled even its own union using threats | Apr 21 12:25 |
Techrights-sec | costs tend to increase pressure even when they are meetable | Apr 21 12:26 |
Techrights-sec | I've stopped reading LXer long ago. | Apr 21 12:26 |
Techrights-sec | It's not like they have anything interesting with great frequency any more | Apr 21 12:26 |
Techrights-sec | the worst is so-called and formeer journalist pretending that social control | Apr 21 12:26 |
Techrights-sec | media is a source of information | Apr 21 12:26 |
schestowitz-TR | One has to self-censor a lot when copies go to Twitter | Apr 21 12:30 |
schestowitz-TR | that applied to me too, more so after some sanctions | Apr 21 12:30 |
schestowitz-TR | which were not even for the most "strong" or "controversial" opinions | Apr 21 12:30 |
schestowitz-TR | mostly things to do with Bill and Big Pharma | Apr 21 12:30 |
schestowitz-TR | when I got off all these platforms the tone changed because I didn't have | Apr 21 12:30 |
schestowitz-TR | to justify myself to moderators | Apr 21 12:30 |
schestowitz-TR | so all these former journalists, as RMS might say (citing Chomsky actually; he told this to me in Oxford), | Apr 21 12:30 |
schestowitz-TR | are limited to a very narrow range of permissible views | Apr 21 12:30 |
schestowitz-TR | anything outside the Twitter spectrum is outlandish and puts your very existence at trisk | Apr 21 12:30 |
schestowitz-TR | *risk | Apr 21 12:30 |
schestowitz-TR | the media promotes this idea that Twitter will be "safe" (for now) so long as you are | Apr 21 12:30 |
schestowitz-TR | now some GOPKKK politician or David Ike or some other but | Apr 21 12:30 |
schestowitz-TR | *but | Apr 21 12:30 |
schestowitz-TR | > nut | Apr 21 12:30 |
schestowitz-TR | but the broom goes further and further each year | Apr 21 12:30 |
schestowitz-TR | politician get paid not to tweet but to read law and assess what they are doing | Apr 21 12:33 |
schestowitz-TR | unlike the public which is already over-occupied 9-5+ commute+kids etc. | Apr 21 12:33 |
schestowitz-TR | I give much credit to people who all along saw that social control media was | Apr 21 12:33 |
schestowitz-TR | harmful short-term gratification like smoking | Apr 21 12:33 |
schestowitz-TR | all this "social" stuff goes up in spoke | Apr 21 12:33 |
schestowitz-TR | like Digg.com did, not even many years after it was "talk of the town" | Apr 21 12:33 |
Techrights-sec | How are they able to get so much leverage over the union(s) without turncoats | Apr 21 12:36 |
Techrights-sec | within? | Apr 21 12:36 |
Techrights-sec | yes twittier is one means "they" use to shift the overton window on a great | Apr 21 12:36 |
Techrights-sec | many topics | Apr 21 12:36 |
Techrights-sec | https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/26/us/politics/overton-window-democrats.html | Apr 21 12:36 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nytimes.com | How the Politically Unthinkable Can Become Mainstream - The New York Times | Apr 21 12:36 | |
Techrights-sec | except they do the opposite now | Apr 21 12:36 |
Techrights-sec | https://www.mackinac.org/OvertonWindow | Apr 21 12:36 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.mackinac.org | The Overton Window – Mackinac Center | Apr 21 12:36 | |
Techrights-sec | digg sucked from day one; it always blocked and hid anything and everything | Apr 21 12:36 |
Techrights-sec | related to both OpenDocument Format and open standards at a time when | Apr 21 12:36 |
Techrights-sec | both were otherwise being discussed across the industry | Apr 21 12:36 |
schestowitz-TR | I could do a TR search on this topic as we did cover how Digg and others had covered -- or had not -- ODF | Apr 21 12:38 |
schestowitz-TR | you would struggle these days to explain to people what the site was, who was there, what was discussed etc. | Apr 21 12:38 |
schestowitz-TR | I put an online copy of all my submissions there | Apr 21 12:38 |
schestowitz-TR | about 10k of them iirc | Apr 21 12:38 |
schestowitz-TR | I also left about 13k comments | Apr 21 12:38 |
schestowitz-TR | all are gone now | Apr 21 12:38 |
Techrights-sec | it was a badly biased site, though perhaps not as bad as conde nast's reddit | Apr 21 12:39 |
schestowitz-TR | the bias if the business mode | Apr 21 12:42 |
schestowitz-TR | *model | Apr 21 12:42 |
schestowitz-TR | many accused it of being very pro-apple | Apr 21 12:42 |
schestowitz-TR | maybe because of the co-founders | Apr 21 12:42 |
schestowitz-TR | but it was also far too soft on microsoft | Apr 21 12:42 |
schestowitz-TR | reddit was starting to emerge | Apr 21 12:42 |
schestowitz-TR | sucking up even harder to microsoft | Apr 21 12:42 |
schestowitz-TR | and then twitter | Apr 21 12:42 |
schestowitz-TR | along with FB | Apr 21 12:42 |
Techrights-sec | which only ever pretends to have open discussions, when it reality | Apr 21 12:42 |
Techrights-sec | they are very tightly controlled and censored | Apr 21 12:42 |
schestowitz-TR | they do not claim to be "free speech"; they use other terms | Apr 21 12:44 |
schestowitz-TR | but, to me, gemini and blogs with rss try to rectify this | Apr 21 12:44 |
schestowitz-TR | even replies should not be in blog posts themselves | Apr 21 12:44 |
schestowitz-TR | but in your own turf | Apr 21 12:44 |
schestowitz-TR | e.g. Re: Leaving Gemini | Apr 21 12:44 |
schestowitz-TR | this way censorship is not a problem at all | Apr 21 12:44 |
schestowitz-TR | and you don't rely on the mercy of other platform owners | Apr 21 12:45 |
schestowitz-TR | or their ability to keep their sites online | Apr 21 12:45 |
Techrights-sec | yes the business model is mass manipulation of public opinion | Apr 21 12:45 |
schestowitz-TR | you mention busiuiness models | Apr 21 12:46 |
schestowitz-TR | look at event brochures of LF | Apr 21 12:46 |
schestowitz-TR | not for attendees | Apr 21 12:46 |
schestowitz-TR | for for sponsors | Apr 21 12:46 |
schestowitz-TR | then you understand what Twitter means to them | Apr 21 12:46 |
Techrights-sec | I think old, pre-sale Slashdot scared them in that regard since for a few | Apr 21 12:47 |
Techrights-sec | years it ws the single most influential site on the net but not under control | Apr 21 12:47 |
Techrights-sec | of either M$ or its aligned interests | Apr 21 12:47 |
Techrights-sec | yep | Apr 21 12:47 |
Techrights-sec | yes, the optimal approach is to have one's own site or blog and post | Apr 21 12:47 |
Techrights-sec | responses there | Apr 21 12:47 |
Techrights-sec | their brochures show what they are really about. however there is a lot | Apr 21 12:47 |
Techrights-sec | of wishful and "magical" thinking going on among the general population | Apr 21 12:47 |
Techrights-sec | including the general developer and FOSS developer population | Apr 21 12:47 |
schestowitz-TR | it is hardly shocking that LF shilsl GitHub | Apr 21 12:50 |
schestowitz-TR | they think alike | Apr 21 12:50 |
schestowitz-TR | and speaking of "LIKE", they want "measurable" things | Apr 21 12:50 |
schestowitz-TR | again, see how the brochures put it | Apr 21 12:50 |
schestowitz-TR | and wjhat services are on sale | Apr 21 12:50 |
schestowitz-TR | maybe they throw some "free" voucher in for spamnail spamtalk | Apr 21 12:50 |
schestowitz-TR | coming soon: get booth, now limited offer of "gratus" tweet from Jono Bacon," | Apr 21 12:50 |
schestowitz-TR | one "Let's Talk" and "To the Point" with spamnil, and one puff piece with Christine | Apr 21 12:50 |
schestowitz-TR | of FOSS Farce | Apr 21 12:50 |
Techrights-sec | LF is stocked with microsofters and other GPL -hostile entities | Apr 21 12:50 |
schestowitz-TR | [09:25] <techrights-news> Ericsson literally worked with terrorists. Now it has TWO seats in the board of the Linux Foundation. ☛ https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/telecoms-and-nbn/ericsson-cannot-estimate-impact-of-doj-breach-notices.html | Source: IT Wire | Apr 21 12:50 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-iTWire - Ericsson cannot estimate impact of DOJ breach notices | Apr 21 12:50 | |
activelow | GPL itself can be dangerous to "free software", because it enables undesireable changes by those who can push most of those (GTK1-2-3-4, thats no progress for free software, that's an attack against it, in the name of GPL) | Apr 21 12:52 |
activelow | GPL without _standards_ that is | Apr 21 12:52 |
activelow | I remember 10 years ago Microsoft hit a record of most monthly commits to linux kernel (with their virtualizatin stuff iirc) | Apr 21 12:53 |
Techrights-sec | yep andthere will be no repercussions for their actions, not even | Apr 21 12:54 |
Techrights-sec | (or especcially)) economic contraints | Apr 21 12:54 |
schestowitz-TR | activelow: just code | Apr 21 12:54 |
schestowitz-TR | greg k-h complained about it | Apr 21 12:55 |
schestowitz-TR | LOC ~= quality | Apr 21 12:55 |
schestowitz-TR | number of commits can be a sign of many errors | Apr 21 12:55 |
Techrights-sec | yes, I saw that, the HTTP site can be releagted to a mirror of the Gemini | Apr 21 12:55 |
Techrights-sec | site but it ought to be retained if for no other reason than to drive | Apr 21 12:55 |
Techrights-sec | attention to Gemini; However, it's their choice whaichever way. | Apr 21 12:55 |
schestowitz-TR | Gemini is still growing | Apr 21 12:57 |
schestowitz-TR | USENET not does some of the comms, but as some paut it, better to have discussions across capsules | Apr 21 12:57 |
schestowitz-TR | an online https archive of the mailing lists (read-only) sort of defeats the purpose and spirit of the project | Apr 21 12:57 |
schestowitz-TR | anyway. I am finding many gemini:// links these days, sometimes gopher too | Apr 21 12:57 |
schestowitz-TR | some are lengthy and good use of time | Apr 21 12:57 |
Techrights-sec | yes though the list would have helped | Apr 21 13:00 |
Techrights-sec | that's a drawback to automation; there are a number of good sites which | Apr 21 13:00 |
Techrights-sec | I /ought/ to check but since they are covered reasonably well by the automated | Apr 21 13:00 |
Techrights-sec | feed agregator there is little incentive since I already have information | Apr 21 13:00 |
Techrights-sec | overload as it is | Apr 21 13:00 |
schestowitz-TR | moreover, the project is now "big enough" to grow on its own | Apr 21 13:01 |
schestowitz-TR | with or without email to "talk about" Gemini | Apr 21 13:01 |
schestowitz-TR | we need to talk less ABOUT Gemini | Apr 21 13:01 |
schestowitz-TR | and instead USE and LEWVERAGE gemini | Apr 21 13:01 |
schestowitz-TR | to make new and unique "content" | Apr 21 13:01 |
schestowitz-TR | I added 2 or 3 GemLogs saying it this month after drew had moaning that Gemini talks about itself too much | Apr 21 13:01 |
schestowitz-TR | in techrights we barely cover Gemini anymore | Apr 21 13:01 |
schestowitz-TR | and the automated updates have worked OK for days | Apr 21 13:01 |
schestowitz-TR | so I mostly forgot about those | Apr 21 13:01 |
schestowitz-TR | information is a pyramid | Apr 21 13:01 |
schestowitz-TR | if properly organised (i.e. notm BillBC) | Apr 21 13:01 |
schestowitz-TR | then you choose the level you want | Apr 21 13:01 |
schestowitz-TR | granularity | Apr 21 13:01 |
schestowitz-TR | and if time permits you go deeper or further down the pyramic | Apr 21 13:01 |
schestowitz-TR | in techrigghts we divide by topics | Apr 21 13:01 |
schestowitz-TR | so it's easier to skip things you do not relate to | Apr 21 13:01 |
Techrights-sec | yes | Apr 21 13:04 |
schestowitz-TR | [12:52] <activelow> GPL without _standards_ that is | Apr 21 13:06 |
schestowitz-TR | like formal satndards? | Apr 21 13:06 |
schestowitz-TR | you could argue that GPL overcomes some of these things | Apr 21 13:06 |
schestowitz-TR | both GPL software and 'standard' can be bloated | Apr 21 13:07 |
schestowitz-TR | like MPEG | Apr 21 13:07 |
activelow | schestowitz-TR: motif widget toolkit is an example, which type of standard together with GPL protect software freedom | Apr 21 13:26 |
activelow | in this case it is an IEEE standard, which guarantees stability and software freedom | Apr 21 13:26 |
activelow | it is not possible to attack motif anymore, because it is guarded by both mentioned standards and GPL | Apr 21 13:27 |
activelow | if the IEEE standard was dropped from motif, this permitted any changes to it in compliance with GPL license terms | Apr 21 13:28 |
activelow | and this is exactly what happened to GTK2/3/4; it was attacked in compliance with GPL, it was GPL itself which killed GTK stability | Apr 21 13:28 |
activelow | otherwise i don't know the details of MPEG and standardization, patent claims etc. | Apr 21 13:29 |
activelow | and the irony with formerly proprietary motif widget toolkit which RMS objected to, nowadays motif is more "free" than FSF/GNU endorsed GTK/GNOME | Apr 21 13:31 |
schestowitz-TR | You've long pointed out, correctly, lockin associated with bloat | Apr 21 13:31 |
schestowitz-TR | which becomes a freedom issue | Apr 21 13:31 |
schestowitz-TR | FSF and GTK/GNOME are GNU | Apr 21 13:31 |
schestowitz-TR | or related to GNU | Apr 21 13:32 |
schestowitz-TR | I don't think FSF specifically endorses or recommends GNOME | Apr 21 13:32 |
schestowitz-TR | GIMP maybe | Apr 21 13:32 |
schestowitz-TR | GIMP is GNU | Apr 21 13:32 |
schestowitz-TR | not GNOME | Apr 21 13:32 |
schestowitz-TR | and GTK is developed by ICBM mostly | Apr 21 13:32 |
activelow | furthermore, i consider GPL copyleft too weak, GPL copyleft does not prevent "incorporation" into proprietary products (FSF is lying if they claim GPL copyleft did) | Apr 21 13:32 |
schestowitz-TR | GPL is sued a lot in proprietary | Apr 21 13:33 |
schestowitz-TR | like clown computing | Apr 21 13:33 |
schestowitz-TR | then there's affero | Apr 21 13:33 |
schestowitz-TR | most clown BS runs proprietary "webapps" | Apr 21 13:33 |
schestowitz-TR | they use GPL for OS and stuff | Apr 21 13:33 |
schestowitz-TR | then there's LGPL | Apr 21 13:33 |
activelow | sued how? even without GPL copyleft violations, the GPL copyleft clause itself is too weak | Apr 21 13:33 |
activelow | LGPL is even weaker copyleft | Apr 21 13:34 |
activelow | yet ordinary GPL copyleft is too weak already (another suspicious FSF stance when they imply GPL copyleft was strong) | Apr 21 13:34 |
activelow | if, IBM, as a major GPL copyright holder and/or author, if IBM chose _not_ to enforce GPL copyleft, then the entire copyleft claim is void | Apr 21 13:35 |
activelow | because, i think, it is _only_ the copyright holder which can enforce copyleft | Apr 21 13:36 |
schestowitz-TR | in court? | Apr 21 13:36 |
schestowitz-TR | or gentleman's agreement/settlement? | Apr 21 13:36 |
schestowitz-TR | sometimes contacting an author is enough | Apr 21 13:36 |
schestowitz-TR | and then the code is released "back" | Apr 21 13:36 |
schestowitz-TR | which I think is preferable | Apr 21 13:37 |
schestowitz-TR | more consensual, no lawyers necessary | Apr 21 13:37 |
activelow | btw. i do support GPL and copyleft, yet GPL (regardless of LGPL) is too weak and unspecific, concerning both undesirable and desirable copyleft | Apr 21 13:38 |
schestowitz-TR | don't mind me asking, but... have you released some programs to the public? | Apr 21 13:38 |
activelow | schestowitz-TR: yes, i released the most efficient and most secure symmetric block cipher | Apr 21 13:39 |
schestowitz-TR | is it public somewhere? | Apr 21 13:40 |
schestowitz-TR | I want to assess | Apr 21 13:40 |
activelow | github | Apr 21 13:40 |
activelow | although, since there wasn't any feedback about this, i didn't push any update anymore | Apr 21 13:40 |
schestowitz-TR | ok, nobody is perfect ^_^ | Apr 21 13:40 |
activelow | and, i do not work for zero income | Apr 21 13:40 |
activelow | https://github.com/agg1/scram88 | Apr 21 13:41 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-GitHub - agg1/scram88: scram88 polymorphic scrambler matrix crypto stack | Apr 21 13:41 | |
schestowitz-TR | you can self-host | Apr 21 13:41 |
schestowitz-TR | even on your own PC | Apr 21 13:41 |
schestowitz-TR | with DNS set up righ | Apr 21 13:41 |
schestowitz-TR | I need another machine | Apr 21 13:41 |
schestowitz-TR | rekonq gives me blank pages in shithub | Apr 21 13:41 |
activelow | for BaphometOS my connection is too slow: 2mbit uplink | Apr 21 13:42 |
activelow | and i am not willing to outsource anywhere into clown where i do not have full control over the server | Apr 21 13:42 |
activelow | furthermore, i fear, if i released BaphometOS, then GPL copyleft enforce did catch me, because i cannot publish without any ROI while others capitalize upon GPL | Apr 21 13:44 |
schestowitz-TR | "lite" is the non-commercial? | Apr 21 13:44 |
activelow | lite means i got another variant of this, nonetheless lite doesn't weaken the cryptographic strength at all | Apr 21 13:45 |
schestowitz-TR | you are one month older than me | Apr 21 13:45 |
activelow | and for studying puproses of non-primitive recurse LFSR the lite variant is more suitable | Apr 21 13:46 |
activelow | meanwhile, i removed the entire dm-crypt API from kernel here, and implemented an even simpler variant | Apr 21 13:46 |
activelow | which i won't publish either | Apr 21 13:46 |
schestowitz-TR | the code could use more comments (just saying') | Apr 21 13:47 |
schestowitz-TR | *sayin' | Apr 21 13:47 |
schestowitz-TR | also, patents don't work as exclaimed there | Apr 21 13:47 |
schestowitz-TR | maybe a misunderstanding | Apr 21 13:47 |
schestowitz-TR | they're something you must apply for | Apr 21 13:47 |
activelow | schestowitz-TR: i don't f**ing care | Apr 21 13:47 |
schestowitz-TR | in this case, software/maths | Apr 21 13:47 |
schestowitz-TR | the attorneys know how to cheat the corrupt EPO | Apr 21 13:48 |
schestowitz-TR | to get patents on abstract things, even other people's work | Apr 21 13:48 |
activelow | i don't think it is a patent issue anyway, it is an issue of "author's rights" and "berne convention" | Apr 21 13:48 |
schestowitz-TR | anyway, it's GOOD that people still work on crypto | Apr 21 13:48 |
schestowitz-TR | the "official" stuff is not trustworthy | Apr 21 13:49 |
activelow | furthermore, i do disagree with RMS and "intellectual property", meaning, my reading of "intellectual property" is "author's rights" | Apr 21 13:49 |
schestowitz-TR | BND along with six-eyes hunt down anyone who makes crypto not "approved" (e.g. weakened) by them | Apr 21 13:49 |
activelow | lol, you know, i "downgraded" the most recent implementation to 32bit | Apr 21 13:50 |
schestowitz-TR | I think calling them "rights" at all is a disservice to the concept of concrete rightrs | Apr 21 13:50 |
schestowitz-TR | rights to food, water, due process... | Apr 21 13:50 |
activelow | i mean, i am looking forward to their argument, why and how 256bit crypto is advertised, while i am totally happy with 32bit | Apr 21 13:50 |
schestowitz-TR | 64bit being too hard to figure out in the processor sense? | Apr 21 13:50 |
schestowitz-TR | doesn't matter how many bits | Apr 21 13:50 |
activelow | the cipher strength cannot be easily estimated with amount of bits | Apr 21 13:51 |
schestowitz-TR | if it doesn't work, it doesn't work | Apr 21 13:51 |
schestowitz-TR | right | Apr 21 13:51 |
schestowitz-TR | it's a cock-measuring content | Apr 21 13:51 |
schestowitz-TR | *contest | Apr 21 13:51 |
activelow | the key to understanding is: "known plaintext attacks" | Apr 21 13:51 |
activelow | and my design is not prone to it | Apr 21 13:51 |
activelow | so i can happily live with 32bits advertised | Apr 21 13:51 |
activelow | furthermore, ECB is the best choice, in practice; off-topic, just saying, ECB isn't the problem | Apr 21 13:52 |
schestowitz-TR | I agree that they measure the wrong thing | Apr 21 13:52 |
schestowitz-TR | heh, ECB | Apr 21 13:53 |
schestowitz-TR | European Central Bank... (Also) | Apr 21 13:53 |
activelow | electronic codebook mode | Apr 21 13:53 |
activelow | wikipedia is lying about it | Apr 21 13:53 |
schestowitz-TR | how many "bits" was ENIGMA? | Apr 21 13:53 |
activelow | don't know | Apr 21 13:53 |
activelow | nonetheless, enigma was a brilliant piece of engineering | Apr 21 13:54 |
schestowitz-TR | iirc, they modulated signals | Apr 21 13:54 |
schestowitz-TR | and the way it was encoded/decoded was by mechanical instruments | Apr 21 13:54 |
schestowitz-TR | before semiconductors | Apr 21 13:54 |
schestowitz-TR | The patents that kill https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/20/corruption-in-drug-patents-take-away-the-money/ | Apr 21 13:57 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Corruption in Drug Patents: Take Away the Money - CounterPunch.org | Apr 21 13:57 | |
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activelow | GPL is missing another clause, such as, _everyone_ (not copyright holder only) has the right to enforce copyleft of any GPL piece of software | Apr 21 14:01 |
activelow | the solution of the FSF, was insisting on copyright assignment to FSF (GCC) | Apr 21 14:01 |
activelow | yet even then, FSF only as copyright holder of GCC could enforce copyleft, not me | Apr 21 14:03 |
activelow | meanwhile, GCC dropped copyright assignment to FSF, which isn't that relevant anymore anyway, because copyleft clause of GPL is too weak | Apr 21 14:03 |
activelow | it may have been the intention of GPL, yet the copyleft clause should have read such as "all GPL source code must be released to _everyone_" | Apr 21 14:08 |
schestowitz-TR | who would you have enforced it against and why? | Apr 21 14:08 |
activelow | ok, furthermore GPL does _not_ prohibit "incorporation" into proprietary/commercial products (microsoft WSL) | Apr 21 14:09 |
activelow | not that i wanted to see the source code of Microsoft Windows, certainly not, yet i want _everyone_ to have the opportunity to see it, what Pentagon had for sale | Apr 21 14:10 |
activelow | and, even if, such as GNOME, is hiding the truth in plain sight, even then it isn't recognized what is endorsed, spyware | Apr 21 14:10 |
activelow | and my vision of FSF is, they continue lying about it (supposedly strong copyleft, invalid intellectual property, spying) | Apr 21 14:12 |
Techrights-sec | It looks like about 40 of the acrhived files are bad. The first one | Apr 21 14:12 |
Techrights-sec | may be tm-db-20220106.dump.gz and a few days in a row there are bad | Apr 21 14:12 |
Techrights-sec | then again quite a few from there on out | Apr 21 14:12 |
Techrights-sec | see /tmp/gunzip.log on the RPi | Apr 21 14:12 |
Techrights-sec | and /tmp/gunzip.err | Apr 21 14:12 |
schestowitz-TR | how many files do you have prior to jan 6th? I'm trying to understand when the problemn began as we might be able to associate that w | Apr 21 14:13 |
schestowitz-TR | with some change to the site | Apr 21 14:13 |
schestowitz-TR | last night I tried 2 dumps from 2021 and 2 from 2020 (TM) | Apr 21 14:13 |
Techrights-sec | the above list is a check of the full set here | Apr 21 14:28 |
Techrights-sec | both files include the list of corrupted gzip files but the .err one has the | Apr 21 14:28 |
Techrights-sec | specific error message too | Apr 21 14:28 |
Techrights-sec | If I were to guess I would say the gzip files are corrupted in-place | Apr 21 14:28 |
schestowitz-TR | so it started around Insurrection Day? | Apr 21 14:32 |
schestowitz-TR | The files from 2020 and 2021 that I tried were OK | Apr 21 14:32 |
schestowitz-TR | 4 of them in total | Apr 21 14:32 |
schestowitz-TR | testing 3 files from Dec 2021 | Apr 21 14:33 |
Techrights-sec | yes those are the bad files I can make a diff showing the suspected good files | Apr 21 14:33 |
Techrights-sec | The first corrupt file is from the anniversary of the insurrection but | Apr 21 14:35 |
Techrights-sec | that is probably a coincidence. I would suspect something with LXC if | Apr 21 14:35 |
Techrights-sec | I had to take a wild guess or the drive upon which the data is stored, but | Apr 21 14:35 |
Techrights-sec | do not have the means to check the latter nor the knowledge to check the | Apr 21 14:35 |
Techrights-sec | former. | Apr 21 14:35 |
schestowitz-TR | the physical drive was changed around February | Apr 21 14:40 |
schestowitz-TR | so the errors persisted after that | Apr 21 14:40 |
schestowitz-TR | that's why it's useful to trace it back to dates | Apr 21 14:40 |
schestowitz-TR | trying 5 more from Nov 2021 | Apr 21 14:40 |
schestowitz-TR | they are all OK, too | Apr 21 14:40 |
schestowitz-TR | so in total 12 files from 2011 that I tested uncompress OK | Apr 21 14:40 |
schestowitz-TR | Jan 6th onwardd 4 nights in a row it failed | Apr 21 14:40 |
schestowitz-TR | Maybe patching at HV? | Apr 21 14:40 |
schestowitz-TR | so far I saw no such error in TM, but I could only check 2 dumps | Apr 21 14:40 |
schestowitz-TR | it would be worth seeing if this affects just one VM | Apr 21 14:40 |
schestowitz-TR | as they use a different OS version | Apr 21 14:40 |
schestowitz-TR | activelow: fsf does not endorse gnome afaik | Apr 21 14:44 |
schestowitz-TR | it does recommend gnu | Apr 21 14:44 |
schestowitz-TR | and gnome is barely even doing justice to the g | Apr 21 14:44 |
schestowitz-TR | in 2009 some a-holes tried to remove gnome from gnu | Apr 21 14:44 |
activelow | FSF does promote GPL, and GPL without _standards_ applicable to GTK ruined gnome | Apr 21 14:48 |
activelow | furthermore, FSF does endorse and promote distributions which ship with gnome | Apr 21 14:49 |
schestowitz-TR | a distro can contain 2 thousand components | Apr 21 14:49 |
schestowitz-TR | even more | Apr 21 14:49 |
schestowitz-TR | if you count their repos | Apr 21 14:49 |
schestowitz-TR | it doesn't mean fsf endorses all these components | Apr 21 14:50 |
schestowitz-TR | btw | Apr 21 14:50 |
schestowitz-TR | gtk can make other DEs | Apr 21 14:50 |
schestowitz-TR | and it does | Apr 21 14:50 |
schestowitz-TR | so gtk/gnome duality wasn't always this tight | Apr 21 14:50 |
schestowitz-TR | ICBM made it so | Apr 21 14:50 |
activelow | and, for example, if epiphany(gnome)/chromium/mozilla were expelled the FSF/GNU/Linux would loose almost their entire user base and many developers | Apr 21 14:50 |
activelow | i consider GTK itself compromised, even when systemd/dbus are entirely removed (which is possible still) | Apr 21 14:51 |
activelow | and again, FSF/GNU/Linux cannot ditch GTK entirely without loosing almost their entire userbase and most developers | Apr 21 14:52 |
activelow | and strengthening GPL is impossible | Apr 21 14:52 |
activelow | such as "all GPL source code must be released to _everyone_" | Apr 21 14:53 |
Techrights-sec | I can check TR's backups too but those were just for TM since you mentioned | Apr 21 14:53 |
Techrights-sec | it most recently. | Apr 21 14:53 |
activelow | and "GPL source code is prohibited from incorporation into all non-free software" | Apr 21 14:53 |
schestowitz-TR | Techrights-sec: | Apr 21 14:53 |
schestowitz-TR | how far back did the TM tests go? I mean, maybe I duplicate effort here | Apr 21 14:53 |
schestowitz-TR | each such backup is about 160,000 "posts" | Apr 21 14:53 |
schestowitz-TR | in table drupal.node | Apr 21 14:53 |
schestowitz-TR | which incidentally is easy to use to make a file dump to GemText files | Apr 21 14:53 |
schestowitz-TR | it will be something like ADD ... or INSERT and then the HTML stuff for body and a field for title | Apr 21 14:53 |
schestowitz-TR | so no need to even scrape any pages | Apr 21 14:53 |
schestowitz-TR | activelow: who would you sue? | Apr 21 14:54 |
schestowitz-TR | or rather, do you worry the authors (FSF, CLA) will deny ou access to code they get back? | Apr 21 14:54 |
activelow | with regards to my individual interests? | Apr 21 14:54 |
activelow | i would sue Deutsche Telekom, German employment agency, and hundreds of "human resource" offices | Apr 21 14:55 |
activelow | unrelated to free software | Apr 21 14:55 |
schestowitz-TR | they are too conencted to the state | Apr 21 14:55 |
schestowitz-TR | you would not win | Apr 21 14:55 |
activelow | damages due to violation of my rights accumulates to millions of cash already | Apr 21 14:56 |
schestowitz-TR | DT is like pseudo-private | Apr 21 14:56 |
schestowitz-TR | like BT here | Apr 21 14:56 |
schestowitz-TR | asking state courts to hold the state accountable is hard | Apr 21 14:56 |
activelow | add to this damages to public interest of hundreds of millions | Apr 21 14:56 |
activelow | the latter being difficult to quantify, as the amount of jobs lost in east-germany, for example | Apr 21 14:57 |
schestowitz-TR | they would need proof. But anyway, this is diverging away from the original topic. | Apr 21 14:59 |
schestowitz-TR | which was GPL | Apr 21 14:59 |
activelow | i got proof for this: bavarian officials threatening me with incarceration | Apr 21 15:01 |
Techrights-sec | see /tmp/gunzip.all for the full list | Apr 21 15:02 |
Techrights-sec | grep -v -F -f /tmp/gunzip.log /tmp/gunzip.all | Apr 21 15:02 |
Techrights-sec | will show the good ones, with the except of odd names like tm-db-20220412-damaged.dump.gz | Apr 21 15:02 |
schestowitz-TR | I don't think we changed anything that month, but maybe system updates were applied to HV (not | Apr 21 15:04 |
schestowitz-TR | that I am aware) | Apr 21 15:04 |
Techrights-sec | applied or needed | Apr 21 15:04 |
schestowitz-TR | thinking 'aloud': | Apr 21 15:11 |
schestowitz-TR | the issue started before and persisted after disk change | Apr 21 15:11 |
schestowitz-TR | the "bad" file (gif) was apparently one of a kind, maybe perpetually a mystery | Apr 21 15:11 |
schestowitz-TR | we have no potent evidence that the physical disk is to blame | Apr 21 15:11 |
schestowitz-TR | we could, for a few nights, try another compression program | Apr 21 15:11 |
schestowitz-TR | there are a few ones that compress better | Apr 21 15:11 |
schestowitz-TR | but our scripts look for "gz" specifically | Apr 21 15:11 |
schestowitz-TR | I have just checked and xz is installed on TR | Apr 21 15:11 |
schestowitz-TR | one experiment can be, alter the script to compress with xz | Apr 21 15:11 |
schestowitz-TR | after a week or so test all the backups | Apr 21 15:11 |
schestowitz-TR | the syntax for xz is the same as .gz | Apr 21 15:11 |
schestowitz-TR | this would: | Apr 21 15:12 |
schestowitz-TR | 1) help us get better backups | Apr 21 15:12 |
schestowitz-TR | 2) help us pin-point the issue | Apr 21 15:12 |
schestowitz-TR | 3) leave us with scripts that offer several compression options | Apr 21 15:12 |
schestowitz-TR | (some of these scripts are over 10 years old) | Apr 21 15:12 |
schestowitz-TR | Just chatted with Rianne about this | Apr 21 15:25 |
schestowitz-TR | and explained to her the situation | Apr 21 15:25 |
schestowitz-TR | inc. OS upgrade | Apr 21 15:25 |
schestowitz-TR | minutes ago I finished other links+combined | Apr 21 15:25 |
schestowitz-TR | so I will focus on Daily Links today, videos and posts not a priority | Apr 21 15:25 |
schestowitz-TR | I plan to check this evening's backup | Apr 21 15:25 |
schestowitz-TR | With the sites doing 8/hits second and Gemini running OK I am not too worried | Apr 21 15:25 |
schestowitz-TR | about focusing on new leaks | Apr 21 15:25 |
schestowitz-TR | and IRC is budy regardless | Apr 21 15:25 |
schestowitz-TR | *busy | Apr 21 15:25 |
schestowitz-TR | not much trolling lately, which is better than budy and disruptive | Apr 21 15:25 |
schestowitz-TR | *busy | Apr 21 15:25 |
schestowitz-TR | the irc network has also been adopted by other projects, such as decloudflare | Apr 21 15:25 |
schestowitz-TR | (not logged) | Apr 21 15:25 |
schestowitz-TR | so there are parallel efforts in one place, with commonalities | Apr 21 15:25 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 21 15:25 |
Techrights-sec | I wonder about automation. Verification of proper compression ouught to | Apr 21 15:25 |
Techrights-sec | be possible but I don't like the idea of working around errors of unknown | Apr 21 15:25 |
Techrights-sec | cause | Apr 21 15:25 |
Techrights-sec | excellent that IRC is improving | Apr 21 15:25 |
Techrights-sec | excellent. cloudflare is a bigger problem than most people who are even aware | Apr 21 15:25 |
Techrights-sec | of cloudflare usually know | Apr 21 15:25 |
Techrights-sec | and there are relatively few that are aware even of cloudflare | Apr 21 15:25 |
Techrights-sec | any idea how hard it is to set up BigBlueButton on a RPi? | Apr 21 15:25 |
schestowitz-TR | We set that up at work like 7 years ago | Apr 21 15:27 |
schestowitz-TR | I was not involved in thgat project | Apr 21 15:27 |
schestowitz-TR | I saw the link aboput Moodle and BBB | Apr 21 15:27 |
schestowitz-TR | FSF used MNumble and BBB | Apr 21 15:27 |
schestowitz-TR | as noted in the RMS talk, which also used outsourced IRC | Apr 21 15:27 |
Techrights-sec | I hope it is easier now. | Apr 21 15:27 |
schestowitz-TR | We used openfire a lot (jabber) | Apr 21 15:29 |
schestowitz-TR | before the idiots like sarin and The Liar came | Apr 21 15:29 |
schestowitz-TR | and decided that it wasn't "clown" enough | Apr 21 15:29 |
schestowitz-TR | and maybe tougher to 'police' | Apr 21 15:29 |
schestowitz-TR | the management brought the jabber server down at least once if not twice | Apr 21 15:29 |
schestowitz-TR | based on false protexts | Apr 21 15:29 |
schestowitz-TR | to thwart the possibility of stuff chating/uniting | Apr 21 15:29 |
schestowitz-TR | *staff | Apr 21 15:29 |
Techrights-sec | yes that's a main reason that "Slack" is pushed on workers, all communicatins | Apr 21 15:31 |
Techrights-sec | even "private" ones are logged and available for perusal by management | Apr 21 15:31 |
Techrights-sec | I figure "Slack" rode in on the name confusion with Slackware. Managers were | Apr 21 15:31 |
Techrights-sec | recipients of targeted marketing for "Slack" and asked their technical staff | Apr 21 15:31 |
Techrights-sec | what they though of "Slack". Thinking that the managers meand Slacware, | Apr 21 15:31 |
Techrights-sec | the answer was "great". Or at least that's one scenario. | Apr 21 15:31 |
schestowitz-TR | In tuxmachines there is atill a "Slack" category | Apr 21 15:31 |
schestowitz-TR | but it's about the distro | Apr 21 15:31 |
Techrights-sec | Apr 21 15:32 | |
Techrights-sec | It was always about the distro until a few years ago when | Apr 21 15:32 |
Techrights-sec | some garbage proprietary surveillanceware rode in over the name | Apr 21 15:32 |
Techrights-sec | and no trademark dispute was made | Apr 21 15:32 |
schestowitz-TR | it would be hard to win | Apr 21 15:33 |
schestowitz-TR | 1) generic dictionary word | Apr 21 15:33 |
schestowitz-TR | 2) not a distro | Apr 21 15:33 |
schestowitz-TR | 3) I forgot.... never mind lack of registration, but there was another basis I had in mind, doesn't matter, this is just IRC | Apr 21 15:34 |
Techrights-sec | Well the garbage proprietary surveillanceware did use a name based on | Apr 21 15:34 |
Techrights-sec | it | Apr 21 15:34 |
Techrights-sec | 2) it's a "technical | Apr 21 15:34 |
Techrights-sec | " thing and thus confusion among managers. However, being able to monitor | Apr 21 15:34 |
Techrights-sec | all communication via the surveillanceware was probably the main selling | Apr 21 15:34 |
Techrights-sec | point | Apr 21 15:34 |
schestowitz-TR | I think you 'downplay' this piece of malware | Apr 21 15:36 |
schestowitz-TR | it tracks a lot more than conversation | Apr 21 15:36 |
schestowitz-TR | and Microsoft rode the tails of it, turning Skype for Business into "productivity-measuring" malware (Team) | Apr 21 15:36 |
schestowitz-TR | now trying to bundle this malware | Apr 21 15:36 |
schestowitz-TR | with highly notorious practices that the pandemic helped to normalise | Apr 21 15:36 |
schestowitz-TR | *Teams | Apr 21 15:36 |
Techrights-sec | M$ tries to bundle its own malware with anything it can get away with | Apr 21 15:38 |
Techrights-sec | The host may not survive the paracitism though. | Apr 21 15:38 |
Techrights-sec | Most companies rarely survive partnerships with M$ for very long | Apr 21 15:38 |
schestowitz-TR | watch out, Sam! ;-) | Apr 21 15:38 |
Techrights-sec | yep | Apr 21 15:39 |
Techrights-sec | I would like to be wrong but both his employment and his employer are not long | Apr 21 15:39 |
Techrights-sec | for the world. He'd be wise to polish his resume, but there are so few | Apr 21 15:39 |
Techrights-sec | workplaces to consider any more. | Apr 21 15:39 |
schestowitz-TR | it looked like his name was "borrowed" for puff pieces disguised as articles | Apr 21 15:40 |
schestowitz-TR | which made his RSS fedd intolerable to me | Apr 21 15:40 |
schestowitz-TR | whereupon it was just dropped | Apr 21 15:40 |
schestowitz-TR | too long to scoop up his real articles | Apr 21 15:40 |
schestowitz-TR | the webspam outnumbered those | Apr 21 15:40 |
schestowitz-TR | ota | Apr 21 17:01 |
schestowitz-TR | new epo doc | Apr 21 17:01 |
schestowitz-TR | COVID-19 Numbers in the UK Havent Fallen, Testing Has Fallen (Hiding the Problem) to Lowest Levels in 1.5 Years and Death Toll Conti | Apr 21 17:01 |
schestowitz-TR | nues to Climb http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/21/over-600-deaths/ | Apr 21 17:01 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » COVID-19 Numbers in the UK Haven’t Fallen, Testing Has Fallen (Hiding the Problem) to Lowest Levels in 1.5 Years and Death Toll Continues to Climb | Apr 21 17:01 | |
schestowitz-TR | draft | Apr 21 17:22 |
schestowitz-TR | it is always important to know where one stands | Apr 21 18:04 |
schestowitz-TR | even when it nois not convenient | Apr 21 18:04 |
schestowitz-TR | self-deluding mindset is a ticking time bomb | Apr 21 18:04 |
schestowitz-TR | being cynical about onself and about life is healthy | Apr 21 18:04 |
schestowitz-TR | humour is a coping mechanism | Apr 21 18:04 |
schestowitz-TR | (there is nothing funny about a plague though) | Apr 21 18:04 |
schestowitz-TR | speaking of humour, i've made a yo dawg meme | Apr 21 18:04 |
schestowitz-TR | let's see if it gets deleted ;-=) | Apr 21 18:04 |
schestowitz-TR | I've added a draft about gemini, very short | Apr 21 18:04 |
Techrights-sec | The "Yo Dawg" meme usually involves some kind of obvious reference to | Apr 21 18:04 |
Techrights-sec | recursion | Apr 21 18:04 |
schestowitz-TR | Yes, but I could not think of something in a someting in this context | Apr 21 18:08 |
schestowitz-TR | my energy provider is the same. rianne watched part of the video I made yesterday. I also added 3 | Apr 21 18:08 |
schestowitz-TR | more messages to my blog post afterward. | Apr 21 18:08 |
schestowitz-TR | Charge more, do less. | Apr 21 18:08 |
schestowitz-TR | Before the "successful bankruptcy" | Apr 21 18:08 |
schestowitz-TR | I told him, | Apr 21 18:08 |
schestowitz-TR | businesses come and go | Apr 21 18:08 |
schestowitz-TR | and you woulg go faster if you treat clients like this | Apr 21 18:08 |
schestowitz-TR | banks are the same | Apr 21 18:08 |
schestowitz-TR | at this point they do very little | Apr 21 18:08 |
schestowitz-TR | some4 excist only on paper or some aws 'account' | Apr 21 18:08 |
schestowitz-TR | but still, I'd rather put money there than in fakecoints | Apr 21 18:08 |
schestowitz-TR | or perishable items that lose value very fast | Apr 21 18:08 |
Techrights-sec | ok | Apr 21 18:23 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 21 18:23 |
Techrights-sec | you'll note that almost all the cryptocurrency aritlces for daily links | Apr 21 18:23 |
Techrights-sec | fall under the Energy category, because they do nothig more than was | Apr 21 18:23 |
Techrights-sec | electricity and emit fossil carbon | Apr 21 18:23 |
schestowitz-TR | for a few years I was a bit sympathetic but abundantly hesitant to consider those myself | Apr 21 18:25 |
schestowitz-TR | in recent years perception shifted not because of FUD | Apr 21 18:25 |
schestowitz-TR | but because the cost of "minting" this shit (so-called 'mining') became rather | Apr 21 18:25 |
schestowitz-TR | ludicrous | Apr 21 18:25 |
schestowitz-TR | plus, too many out there, plus NFT-like BS | Apr 21 18:25 |
schestowitz-TR | didn't live up to the promise, created many charalatans though | Apr 21 18:25 |
schestowitz-TR | "bros"; | Apr 21 18:25 |
Techrights-sec | I made the choice in 2009 not to participate in what was already then a | Apr 21 18:32 |
Techrights-sec | massive waste of electricity; furthermore, there is a limited and small | Apr 21 18:32 |
Techrights-sec | number of bitcoins *and* the transaction cost in time, money, and electricty | Apr 21 18:32 |
Techrights-sec | is so high as it has no value as a currency even for large transactions | Apr 21 18:32 |
Techrights-sec | there was no promise. | Apr 21 18:32 |
Techrights-sec | some charlatans found satoshi's leftove notes in the trash at the end of | Apr 21 18:32 |
Techrights-sec | his experiment and have been running with it ever since | Apr 21 18:32 |
Techrights-sec | https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/bitcoin-satoshi-nakamoto-wallet-b2045846.html | Apr 21 18:32 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.independent.co.uk | Bitcoin from Satoshi-era wallet suddenly activates after 11 years | The Independent | Apr 21 18:32 | |
schestowitz-TR | craig wright epitomises the type | Apr 21 18:32 |
schestowitz-TR | and even alex graveyley | Apr 21 18:32 |
schestowitz-TR | people "worth" $200 MILLION and living with dad, having to rent a car and staying at the gf's home | Apr 21 18:33 |
schestowitz-TR | IME, some people lack patience and instead of work work for many years they seek a get-rich-fast | Apr 21 18:38 |
schestowitz-TR | method | Apr 21 18:38 |
schestowitz-TR | my dad noticed the sake | Apr 21 18:38 |
schestowitz-TR | so they reach out to high risk all all-risk stuff | Apr 21 18:38 |
schestowitz-TR | like exchanging the little money they do earn into some dubious crap | Apr 21 18:38 |
schestowitz-TR | on the net, a SHOCKING number of fakecoin sites exist and have entered gulag noise | Apr 21 18:38 |
schestowitz-TR | I see them all the time | Apr 21 18:38 |
schestowitz-TR | they seem to be preying on those | Apr 21 18:38 |
schestowitz-TR | the only way to grow the value of the scheme is to add more people to it | Apr 21 18:38 |
Techrights-sec | yes, seen that | Apr 21 18:38 |
Techrights-sec | ponzi scheme or pyramid scheme | Apr 21 18:38 |
schestowitz-TR | NFT seems like the sake old scam | Apr 21 18:40 |
schestowitz-TR | with alluring graphics instead of fake (fictoon) coin being presented as some shiny golden coin with a B | Apr 21 18:40 |
schestowitz-TR | with two lines going through it | Apr 21 18:40 |
Techrights-sec | NFT is bizarre, one can see that there is no resale value | Apr 21 18:40 |
activelow | https://www.dw.com/en/elon-musk-says-he-has-465-billion-for-twitter-takeover-bid/a-61547494 | Apr 21 18:41 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Elon Musk says he has $46.5 billion for Twitter takeover bid | News | DW | 21.04.2022 | Apr 21 18:41 | |
schestowitz-TR | NFt 4 LSD | Apr 21 18:46 |
Techrights-sec | https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkp9wg/leaked-shill-price-list-shows-wild-world-of-crypto-promos | Apr 21 18:46 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.vice.com | Leaked ‘Shill Price List’ Shows Wild World of Crypto Promos | Apr 21 18:46 | |
Techrights-sec | Ha. I would like for both of them to lose. Twitter is overdue for closure | Apr 21 18:47 |
Techrights-sec | and or bankruptcy | Apr 21 18:47 |
Techrights-sec | one downside of a purchase would be that there would be an infusion of money | Apr 21 18:47 |
schestowitz-TR | You know, I was thinking earlier today or yesterday | Apr 21 18:50 |
schestowitz-TR | with offers like these, which might not even be legally binding (can be PR stunts) | Apr 21 18:50 |
schestowitz-TR | there is a lot of potential for | Apr 21 18:50 |
schestowitz-TR | 1) buy share in twitter | Apr 21 18:50 |
schestowitz-TR | 2) offer to buy | Apr 21 18:50 |
schestowitz-TR | 3) sell shares you've just games | Apr 21 18:50 |
schestowitz-TR | knowing that | Apr 21 18:50 |
schestowitz-TR | 4) you would walk away, claiming to have been inslted or somethin | Apr 21 18:50 |
schestowitz-TR | where would SEC BE!? | Apr 21 18:50 |
schestowitz-TR | This is a modus operandi we did see in the past | Apr 21 18:50 |
schestowitz-TR | the mobsters can't be blind to it | Apr 21 18:50 |
schestowitz-TR | he built empires of fake valuations, based on nothing but lies | Apr 21 18:50 |
Techrights-sec | lies and, well, more lies | Apr 21 19:02 |
schestowitz-TR | the fun thing about frauds and charlatans is, | Apr 21 19:07 |
schestowitz-TR | they're usually on borrowed time | Apr 21 19:07 |
schestowitz-TR | among the banksters, they are very "senior" (old) | Apr 21 19:07 |
schestowitz-TR | so sooner or later you get to see their sandcastles collapsing | Apr 21 19:07 |
schestowitz-TR | sometimes they even take their own life before they reach what's left of it | Apr 21 19:07 |
schestowitz-TR | "well, he's dead" | Apr 21 19:07 |
schestowitz-TR | so you go back, minding your own business | Apr 21 19:07 |
schestowitz-TR | not relying on schemes, loans, and a chain of lies so complex (a web) | Apr 21 19:07 |
schestowitz-TR | that you cannot keep up with it | Apr 21 19:07 |
schestowitz-TR | and then you become king of freenode, a kingdom of nobody | Apr 21 19:07 |
Techrights-sec | Not necessarily all on borrowed time, some stay half a step of the tar and | Apr 21 19:08 |
Techrights-sec | feathers. Others simply pass the torch and another fraud picks up as the | Apr 21 19:08 |
Techrights-sec | previous one gets run out of town on a rail. | Apr 21 19:08 |
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schestowitz-TR | mind if we use this approach | Apr 21 19:35 |
schestowitz-TR | after gz is made | Apr 21 19:35 |
schestowitz-TR | run gunzip -t $file | Apr 21 19:35 |
schestowitz-TR | I just have, for evening TM dump | Apr 21 19:35 |
schestowitz-TR | it's OK | Apr 21 19:35 |
schestowitz-TR | then, if there is output, create or add to file | Apr 21 19:35 |
schestowitz-TR | this operation seems to be a lot faster than actually extracting | Apr 21 19:35 |
schestowitz-TR | I don't think we have that in git, so I will write directly on the server | Apr 21 19:35 |
schestowitz-TR | I am starting with a test line for the drupal dump alone | Apr 21 19:35 |
schestowitz-TR | will add more if it works as expected | Apr 21 19:35 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Apr 21 19:35 |
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