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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PsyWorldLuv/status/1163968893116805120Aug 21 02:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PsyWorldLuv: "Freedom 0 is the freedom to use the software for any purpose, but what we are inching towards is a future where so… https://t.co/dRimzt9YKTAug 21 02:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PsyWorldLuv: "Freedom 0 is the freedom to use the software for any purpose, but what we are inching towards is a future where so… https://t.co/dRimzt9YKTAug 21 02:56
schestowitz"Aug 21 02:56
schestowitzMoreAug 21 02:56
schestowitz "Freedom 0 is the freedom to use the software for any purpose, but what we are inching towards is a future where software repos will be divided along political lines." You cannot reduce "free speech" to the ConstitutionAug 21 02:56
schestowitz"Aug 21 02:56
schestowitzhttps://mastodon.social/@miji/102649848669362947Aug 21 03:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mastodon.social | nobodyfucksjesus: "@tuxmachines@mastodon.technology Michael's got fa…" - MastodonAug 21 03:05
schestowitz"Michael's got fat! :-o"Aug 21 03:05
acer-boxhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9m4sukR4QwPUNOXhJYAug 21 03:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://pleroma.site/notice/9m4sukR4QwPUNOXhJY )Aug 21 03:10
acer-box"Aug 21 03:10
acer-box Hey, we're connected on diaspora* :)Aug 21 03:10
acer-boxAre you also here, or just posting across ?Aug 21 03:10
acer-box"Aug 21 03:10
acer-boxMore or less the same thingAug 21 03:10
acer-boxhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9m52p4yKAMEVsB245QAug 21 03:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaAug 21 03:11
acer-box" don't forget to often back up your account manually, you will be able to import it on other pods soon, in case something very bad happen."Aug 21 03:11
acer-boxhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9m4XjQv8YGYXd2MxPsAug 21 03:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaAug 21 03:12
acer-box" C O M P L I C I T"Aug 21 03:12
acer-boxhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9m3lnL67LbKWvaInRYAug 21 03:12
acer-box" is this the "paused the tariffs in time for the holidays" thing? what an asshole - wait, both of them. Don't buy anything until this guy is out of office."Aug 21 03:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaAug 21 03:12
acer-boxhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9m3ZgFLD9XVrb5DIi8Aug 21 03:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaAug 21 03:13
acer-box"That's assuming people are acting on logic rather than emotions. It seems like either side could refer to the opposition as marshmallow sandwiches and still receive a desired response."Aug 21 03:13
acer-boxhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9m3QYmT9CVPuRCI6AiAug 21 03:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaAug 21 03:13
acer-box" if that's the case then we need more than articles, we need action!"Aug 21 03:13
acer-boxhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9m33Vffbj0qLXJfQdUAug 21 03:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaAug 21 03:14
acer-box" goodbye"Aug 21 03:14
acer-boxhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9m2wWlgIA7X4n1YzNQAug 21 03:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaAug 21 03:14
acer-box"The Power Of #Inclusion (#TPOI). #Justhanks @schestowitz!"Aug 21 03:14
acer-boxhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9m2Uhz6jmlamtsUdWKAug 21 03:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaAug 21 03:14
acer-box" that's because they don't know/forgotten what the western values/morals/leadership is!"Aug 21 03:15
acer-boxhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9m2I0ScjUA2KFcwF0KAug 21 03:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaAug 21 03:15
acer-box"If you look at the text, you will see it goes about internal wars (civil), not external. So, how long ago were there any in UK in more or less modern times? I only can remember Northern Ireland."Aug 21 03:15
acer-boxhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9m2DlyFfDBrEBOz1eKAug 21 03:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaAug 21 03:15
acer-box" I'm not really surprised that execs are awful at technology. Plus you can't easily make horrible corporate PowerPoint or VBA crimes on Linux"Aug 21 03:15
acer-boxhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9m20VIR5cC7mSM2w3EAug 21 03:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaAug 21 03:16
acer-box"Nice work, Brother ;-)"Aug 21 03:16
acer-boxhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15768162#433eeea0a5b60137ae172a0000053625Aug 21 03:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Redcore Linux 1908 Released, Which Fixes Many of the Pending Bugs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127179Aug 21 03:17
acer-box"Aug 21 03:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org | Redcore Linux 1908 Released, Which Fixes Many of the Pending Bugs | Tux MachinesAug 21 03:17
acer-boxAug 21 03:17
acer-box1908 ? wtf ? before the epoch ???Aug 21 03:17
acer-box"Aug 21 03:17
schestowitz> Thanks, I'll check it out.Aug 21 03:24
schestowitz> Aug 21 03:24
schestowitz> Aug 21 03:24
schestowitz>     Re: Campinos speech about "A sustainable Office..." on YouTubeAug 21 03:24
schestowitz>     > Camparinos (his well-known artist name), a rising star on YouTube? SeeAug 21 03:24
schestowitz>     > it for yourself!Aug 21 03:24
schestowitz>     >Aug 21 03:25
schestowitz>     > EPO Strategic Plan 2023: The plan outlines the Office's vision for theAug 21 03:25
schestowitz>     > years ahead and features five strategic goals.Aug 21 03:25
schestowitz>     > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUQntZD0q3c&feature=youtu.be>Aug 21 03:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.youtube.com | A sustainable Office committed to excellence - YouTubeAug 21 03:25
schestowitz> Aug 21 03:25
schestowitz>     I responded to it inAug 21 03:25
schestowitz>     http://techrights.org/2019/06/29/antonio-campinos-drunken-satire/Aug 21 03:25
schestowitz> Aug 21 03:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | The New (Staged and Scripted) Video of António Campinos Feels Like a Drunken Satire | TechrightsAug 21 03:25
schestowitz>     And again this morning.Aug 21 03:25
schestowitz> Always wanted a Knochenjob for a handful of peanuts in expensiveAug 21 03:31
schestowitz> Holland? The European Patent Office makes your dream come true!Aug 21 03:31
schestowitzThere are two images in here that I cannot display. They come from webmail.Aug 21 03:31
schestowitzCan you sent them as attachments?Aug 21 03:31
schestowitzhttps://placeholderapi.wordpress.com/2019/08/20/microsoft-has-hired-the-people-of-another-obscure-company-jclari/#comment-15079Aug 21 03:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-placeholderapi.wordpress.com | #microsoft has hired the people of another obscure company, #jclari… | Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)Aug 21 03:34
schestowitz"I can’t uderstand what you’re telling"Aug 21 03:34
schestowitz> Officially single now RoyAug 21 03:36
schestowitzYou said it before :-DAug 21 03:36
schestowitzaway sunday to tuesday..Aug 21 04:00
schestowitzjust booked  a short holiday to irelandAug 21 04:00
schestowitzwe'll have wi-fi sometimes, so can keep the sites going. not sure i'll check email though as we only take rianne's laptopAug 21 04:00
schestowitz>> away sunday to tuesday..Aug 21 05:35
schestowitz>>Aug 21 05:35
schestowitz>> just booked  a short holiday to irelandAug 21 05:35
schestowitz>>Aug 21 05:35
schestowitz>> we'll have wi-fi sometimes, so can keep the sites going. not sure i'llAug 21 05:35
schestowitz>> check email though as we only take rianne's laptopAug 21 05:35
schestowitz>>Aug 21 05:35
schestowitz> Sounds good.Aug 21 05:35
schestowitz> Aug 21 05:35
schestowitz> That will leave Sunday night without much oversight.  I expect to beAug 21 05:35
schestowitz> back by Monday afternoon.Aug 21 05:35
schestowitz> Aug 21 05:35
schestowitz> In the mean time should I power own the test machine?  OIt's availableAug 21 05:35
schestowitz> for experimenting with LVMs.Aug 21 05:35
schestowitz1. yes, that would be goodAug 21 05:35
schestowitz2. I won't be able to manage site's backend from Rianne's laptop (not easily anyway)Aug 21 05:35
schestowitz3. just published something about systemd in TR. Have a look.Aug 21 05:35
schestowitz4. from IRC:Aug 21 05:35
schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/media/1009695272660897792?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1009695272660897792:0:0:0:1009699802466476032Aug 21 05:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | #FriendsLikeTheseAug 21 05:59
schestowitz"What is it you trying to say? If you don't like this president then I recommend you vote in the next election for the one you like and stop the shit stirring. It serves no purpose but to make you look like moron."Aug 21 05:59
schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/media/1009695569840304128?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1009695569840304128:0:0:0:1009699417300529152Aug 21 05:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | #FriendsLikeTheseAug 21 05:59
schestowitz"Aug 21 05:59
schestowitzIs that Donald Trump Groping an underage girl?Aug 21 05:59
schestowitzCan we prove it is a real photo?Aug 21 05:59
schestowitzIs it clear evidence of a crime being commited?Aug 21 05:59
schestowitzHas the statute of limitations run out for said crime?Aug 21 05:59
schestowitz"Aug 21 05:59
schestowitz"The picture is CGI'Aug 21 05:59
schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1009977499048910848?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1009977499048910848:0:0:0:1010003410592710656Aug 21 06:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | https://i.redd.it/93xbu11h92f31.pngAug 21 06:00
schestowitz"Heh, I'd want a bigger salary for JS development anyway - however this is common - recruiters/HR rarely know anything about tech stacks. I recently saw a company soliciting "angularjs 2.0 JavaScript Developers""Aug 21 06:00
schestowitz"Wish there was a laugh reaction on minds"Aug 21 06:00
schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1009855340836556800?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1009855340836556800:0:0:0:1009892269526331392Aug 21 06:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Skype is Spy Campaign - TechrightsAug 21 06:01
schestowitz"Skype died when Microsoft bought them. Only a few people still use it."Aug 21 06:01
schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1009839361541140480?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1009839361541140480:0:0:0:1009839967923867648Aug 21 06:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | image-0-02-05-a881f53444243d9aa8b19d29817f8e8881f66ee9f840d67001e4947d0aba449f-VAug 21 06:01
schestowitz"Happy 15th Anniversary ❗️"Aug 21 06:01
schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1009832892036935680?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1009832892036935680:0:0:0:1010168088817455104Aug 21 06:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Chris Johns: UK facing a future as a failed state after BrexitAug 21 06:02
schestowitz"What complete rubbish"Aug 21 06:02
schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1009690268796432384?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1009690268796432384:0:0:0:1010357943776198656Aug 21 06:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Introducing Coil, an open-source Android image loading library | Packt HubAug 21 06:02
schestowitz"In your oppinion, is it better than Picasso?"Aug 21 06:02
schestowitzNot familiar with it...Aug 21 06:02
schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1010469090595794944?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1010469090595794944:0:0:0:1010471260948250624Aug 21 06:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | A Fungus Could Wipe Out the Banana ForeverAug 21 06:02
schestowitz"This is very serious, recall the Gros Michel banana was almost brought to extinction by the same thing! http://www.raw-food-health.net/Gros-Michel.html"Aug 21 06:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.raw-food-health.net | Gros Michel: The Lost Banana Your Grandfather Loved.Aug 21 06:02
schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1010649942117302272?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1010649942117302272:0:0:0:1010651641140527104Aug 21 06:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Don't Renew Section 215 IndefinitelyAug 21 06:03
schestowitz"THEY WILL DO THIS WEATHER ITS PASSED OR NOT!"Aug 21 06:03
schestowitzBut it's different when you do it illegallyAug 21 06:03
schestowitzhttps://mastodon.social/@markusviktorius/102633543381647607Aug 21 06:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mastodon.social | Markus Viktorius: "@hitime@fosstodon.org @tuxmachines@pleroma.site t…" - MastodonAug 21 06:04
schestowitz" thanks, i have read them all have also looked at all YT-videos just wanted some direct input from real life users."Aug 21 06:04
schestowitzhttps://fosstodon.org/@hitime/102633514212707026Aug 21 06:05
schestowitz"Aug 21 06:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fosstodon.org | hitime: "@markusviktorius@mastodon.social here is an artic…" - FosstodonAug 21 06:05
schestowitz here is an article on distros to start with as well https://www.fosslinux.com/18230/6-best-linux-distros-for-beginners.htmAug 21 06:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fosslinux.com | 6 Best Linux Distros for Beginners - FOSS LinuxAug 21 06:05
schestowitzfollow Tux Machines @tuxmachines Aug 21 06:05
schestowitzI saw the article linked off thereAug 21 06:05
schestowitz"Aug 21 06:05
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/parkerrm39/status/1164022880893571074Aug 21 06:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@parkerrm39: @tuxmachines Arch, Arch, Arch, Kali, Mint and Arch.....😶😶🤓🤬Aug 21 06:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1162443272855404545Aug 21 06:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @tuxmachines It's the editorial comments next to the headlines bothering me (i.e.,[Ed: Sadly, C# and puts files in… https://t.co/0gE7MwWsFuAug 21 06:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: @tuxmachines It's the editorial comments next to the headlines bothering me (i.e.,[Ed: Sadly, C# and puts files in… https://t.co/0gE7MwWsFuAug 21 06:17
schestowitz"It's the editorial comments next to the headlines bothering me (i.e.,[Ed: Sadly, C# and puts files in surveillance services]).  Until a week or so ago, they were all over the place on Tux Machines. Now they've thankfully all but disappeared. This was the only one I saw this week."Aug 21 06:17
schestowitzYes, we've greatly reduced theseAug 21 06:18
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/chrome/comments/8dd00f/help_address_bar_being_shown_in_chrome_app_window/Aug 21 06:21
schestowitz"Aug 21 06:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | [help] Address Bar being shown in Chrome App Window : chromeAug 21 06:21
schestowitzSo, suddenly the Chrome App Window (The one from "More Tools" > "Add to Desktop" > "Open as window") is showing the address bar (which it shouldn't).Aug 21 06:21
schestowitzlike thisAug 21 06:21
schestowitzI've tried deleting the Shortcut of the App then created a new one, and then I also tried with other websites, but they're giving me the same result (like in the picture above).Aug 21 06:21
schestowitzIs it a new thing in the newest Chrome Update? Or maybe I've pressed any shortcut that show the address bar? (I don't think there is though...)Aug 21 06:21
schestowitzSo my question : Can I Hide/Remove the Address Bar from Chrome App Window?Aug 21 06:21
schestowitzI'm using Windows 10 (64-bit). Chrome: Version 66.0.3359.117 (Official Build) (64-bit) Thanks in advance!Aug 21 06:21
schestowitz"Aug 21 06:21
schestowitzhttps://support.google.com/chrome/forum/AAAAP1KN0B0EnQJqhVJxxk/?hl=en&gpf=%23!topic%2Fchrome%2FEnQJqhVJxxkAug 21 06:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-support.google.com | Address Bar in Chrome App Window - Google Chrome HelpAug 21 06:21
schestowitz"I've tried deleting the Shortcut of the App then created a new one, and then I also tried with other websites, but they're giving me the same result (like in the picture above)."Aug 21 06:21
schestowitzhttps://discourse.diasporafoundation.org/t/connected-services-error-500/2348Aug 21 06:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-discourse.diasporafoundation.org | Connected Services - Error 500 - Podmin Support - diaspora* DiscourseAug 21 06:34
schestowitz"Aug 21 06:34
schestowitzThe strange thing was, I didn’t see anything relevant when I grep’d the production log for relevant URLs, perhaps I was a little tired and missed something, or the error is something to do with Apache rather than a problem with the D* source code. Will check again later when I get time.Aug 21 06:34
schestowitzI trust these integrations are working for other people without issue?Aug 21 06:34
schestowitzBtnsocAug 21 06:34
schestowitzJan 25Aug 21 06:34
schestowitzTried reproducing the error, and looking through the logs there is a 401 error, checked the key/secret and saw that I’d missed out the first character of the key.Aug 21 06:35
schestowitzSo, all authorized now, BUT, my “shared” posts are not appearing on Tumblr! Grr…Aug 21 06:35
schestowitzShall try and see what the problem is with WP and report back with any issues I have there.Aug 21 06:35
schestowitz"Aug 21 06:35
schestowitz"Aug 21 06:35
schestowitzSounds like some kind of error response (which the service should handle better, but…)Aug 21 06:35
schestowitzThat line of code just tries to fetch the blogs from the /v2/user/info endpoint: https://github.com/diaspora/diaspora/blob/develop/app/models/services/tumblr.rb#L21Aug 21 06:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-github.com | diaspora/tumblr.rb at develop · diaspora/diaspora · GitHubAug 21 06:35
schestowitzWhich according to its documentation doesn’t have any optional field on the way: https://www.tumblr.com/docs/en/api/v2#userinfo--get-a-users-informationAug 21 06:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tumblr.com | API | TumblrAug 21 06:35
schestowitz"Aug 21 06:35
schestowitz"I registered successfully our diaspora pod as a wordpress app, but after the user authenticates it, the callback fails with 505...'Aug 21 06:35
schestowitz"Aug 21 06:37
schestowitzHi all - new pod owner here and this bug lives on in 0.7.3.1. I'd be happy to help diagnose from an admin standpoint as best as I can. It's completely reproducible here.Aug 21 06:37
schestowitzI setup an account on wordpress.comAug 21 06:37
schestowitzFollowed the steps to setup the app at wordpress for my podAug 21 06:37
schestowitzDiaspora accepted the config without issueAug 21 06:37
schestowitzWhen a user goes to try and connect their account to their wordpress account, errors as per aboveAug 21 06:37
schestowitz"Aug 21 06:37
schestowitzunresolved for 3 years almostAug 21 06:38
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15727444#ee9d25f0a4640137095b7a163ef10931Aug 21 06:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Toxic Culture at #Microsoft http://techrights.org/2019/08/18/the-gafam-deflection/ #google #gafam #corporatemedia #spinAug 21 06:43
schestowitz"Aug 21 06:43
schestowitzWhy would anyone think that the evil in this organization does not run clear through?Aug 21 06:43
schestowitzAug 21 06:43
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 2 days ago Aug 21 06:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Toxic Culture at Microsoft | TechrightsAug 21 06:43
schestowitzmicrosoft ♥ its workersAug 21 06:43
schestowitz"Aug 21 06:43
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15720057#237700a0a3d90137e64e002590d8e506Aug 21 06:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #newMicrosoft #newCoke #neoNazis Aug 21 06:43
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- Photo by schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_3cb38d1d58bbb66b6288.jpgAug 21 06:43
schestowitz"Aug 21 06:43
schestowitzAug 21 06:43
schestowitzBildbeschreibung hier eingeben https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2014/12/Hitler-hosts-the-Mufti-1024x640.jpgAug 21 06:43
schestowitz"Aug 21 06:43
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15722251#427b9f00a3eb0137384f047d7b62795eAug 21 06:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I am writing a bunch of articles about #microsoft attacks on #freesw #techrights will also publish a book about that soon (digital book, not dead trees)Aug 21 06:44
schestowitz"Book sounds awesome. Will be under a free license?"Aug 21 06:44
schestowitzpublic domain.   http://techrights.org/2019/08/20/freedom-iceberg/ Aug 21 06:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Guarding and Rescuing the FSF Titanic: There is More Than One Iceberg Ahead | TechrightsAug 21 06:44
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15722544#267d6080a3d70137e64e002590d8e506Aug 21 06:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft loves #linux (esp. when it sues Linux and gets billions of dollars from the blackmail) http://techrights.org/2019/03/12/microsoft-foxconn/Aug 21 06:45
schestowitz"Aug 21 06:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Microsoft is Complaining About Android and Chrome OS (GNU/Linux) Vendor Not Paying for Microsoft Patents (Updated) | TechrightsAug 21 06:45
schestowitzAug 21 06:45
schestowitzHow that end up ?Aug 21 06:45
schestowitz"Aug 21 06:45
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15746483#a6da45e0a5640137e7c8002590d8e506Aug 21 06:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft has hired the people of another obscure company, #jclarity Last time a Microsoft proxy did this it was intended to kill a #java project (the person who did this sabotage now heads #github !) http://techrights.org/2016/04/16/microsoft-killing-robovm/ Aug 21 06:45
schestowitz"Aug 21 06:45
schestowitzMicroshaft always shutting Down competition.Aug 21 06:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Microsoft’s War on Java Shows That Microsoft’s E.E.E. (Embrace, Extend, Extinguish) Tactics Are Alive and Well | TechrightsAug 21 06:45
schestowitzBut, If the code was open, could it be forked ?Aug 21 06:45
schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comAug 21 06:45
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about 7 hours ago Aug 21 06:45
schestowitzsure, if they get into enough important projects, then all the projects can be forked-- like systemd.Aug 21 06:45
schestowitzand then microsoft can get into those forks as well. just a matter of timing it properly.Aug 21 06:45
schestowitz Alessandro EbersolAug 21 06:45
schestowitzAlessandro Ebersol - about 6 hours ago Aug 21 06:46
schestowitzWell, they can’t shutdown every other fork on earth. They’re not gods nor supernatural entities.Aug 21 06:46
schestowitz"Aug 21 06:46
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15728242#df7a8bc0a49701373875047d7b62795eAug 21 06:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft apologists like to say things like, "what about Google?" Well, #google isn't the company that ran the "get the facts" anti #gnu #linux FUD campaign It's also not Google that attacks GNU/Linux with #patents and #swpats Aug 21 06:46
schestowitz'Aug 21 06:46
schestowitzSo, does that that make Google the “lesser evil”?Aug 21 06:46
schestowitzAug 21 06:46
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 2 days ago Aug 21 06:46
schestowitzdoes that that make Google the “lesser evil”?Aug 21 06:46
schestowitzonly in this particular context, yesAug 21 06:46
schestowitz"Aug 21 06:46
schestowitzSpeaking about gnu/linux only (in this context)Aug 21 06:46
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15720871#5b46ade0a3b20137c1950cc47a07853cAug 21 06:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft -connected thug #icahn is going after #surveillance company now. It's #openwashing while working for the #nsa https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/13/why-carl-icahn-invested-in-cloudera.html Icahn is a white-collar criminal Aug 21 06:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.cnbc.com | Why Carl Icahn invested in ClouderaAug 21 06:46
schestowitzhttps://i.imgflip.com/38a2te.jpgAug 21 06:47
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15720153#479343f0a38e013709557a163ef10931Aug 21 06:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Microsoft and Amazon are embracing the technology" NO. They are #proprietarysoftware companies Stop this #openwashing dear #corporatemedia https://www.ibtimes.com/open-source-technology-whats-it-all-about-2814213Aug 21 06:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.ibtimes.com | Open Source Technology: What's It All About?Aug 21 06:47
schestowitz"Embracing the work, extinguishing the license."Aug 21 06:47
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15720122#9cea7930a38e0137095b7a163ef10931Aug 21 06:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft "has to prevent users in nations sanctioned by the US government – potentially including China as well as Iran and Crimea – from accessing portions of its service." https://www.itweb.co.za/content/RgeVDMPolnd7KJN3 #deletegithub #imperialism #racismAug 21 06:47
schestowitz"Aug 21 06:47
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.itweb.co.za | Huawei announces rival open source foundation | ITWebAug 21 06:47
schestowitzSo much for the "Free" part of Free Software. Also the "inter" part of "internet".Aug 21 06:47
schestowitz"Aug 21 06:47
schestowitztoo much freedom!Aug 21 06:48
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15720114#d87a4ee0a38e0137095b7a163ef10931Aug 21 06:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft #imperialism and #racism in #github https://jaxenter.com/github-restrictions-open-source-160952.html see http://techrights.org/2019/07/27/github-run-by-racist-microsoft/Aug 21 06:48
schestowitz"At the end of July, GitHub enforced access blocks for its software repositories in line with United States trade controls, including U.S. Export Administration Regulations, on sanctioned countries. Instantly this made it difficult for developers based in countries such as Cuba, Iran, North Korea, and Syria to access private repository services, private organisational accounts or GitHub Marketplace Services. However, this also limited Aug 21 06:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> jaxenter.com | Software, access, and realpolitik — How should open source communities respond to the GitHub restrictions? - JAXenterAug 21 06:48
schestowitzaccess to public repository services for personal communications only. - It’s important to stress that the individual developers themselves had no say over this decision."Aug 21 06:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Microsoft’s Takeover of GitHub Already an Attack on the Four Freedoms in Service of Empire | TechrightsAug 21 06:48
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaAug 21 07:07
acer-box"new http code was overflowing the connection pool and silently failing"Aug 21 07:07
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15759463#78232550a5c90137b1a10cc47a07853cAug 21 07:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 'Owning' the concept of four overlapping wheels even in radiators (not cars)? http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/08/four-rings-to-rule-them-all-german.htmlAug 21 07:12
schestowitz"Aug 21 07:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> ipkitten.blogspot.com | Four Rings to Rule Them All – German Federal Court of Justice Finds Trademark Infringement in Radiator Grille with Audi-Logo-Shaped Mounting Fixture - The IPKatAug 21 07:12
schestowitzif there are 8 of them, is that ok?Aug 21 07:12
schestowitzhopefully audi didnt just win a monopoly on all chain patterns.Aug 21 07:12
schestowitz"Aug 21 07:12
schestowitzYes, indeed... corporate power at workAug 21 07:12
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15755662#0a99ae20a5f901370d06002590d8e506Aug 21 07:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@willhill@joindiaspora.com reshared: I am tempted to write a detailed rebuttal to the latest lies and trolling from #cbs tabloid #zdnet but I fear that doing so 1) would feed the trolls and 2) give them more traffic/visibility (can be read by people who did not even see the FUD)Aug 21 07:12
schestowitz"Aug 21 07:12
schestowitzAug 21 07:12
schestowitzI took a walk down the #Windows tag and saw ZDNet pumping out the usual Microsoft bullshit. It's like listening to Donald Trump.Aug 21 07:12
schestowitz"Aug 21 07:12
schestowitzthis is their business modelAug 21 07:12
schestowitz"I never read there anymore. Not for a couple of decades now.'Aug 21 07:12
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15743940#0756bea0a5e801378716005056264835Aug 21 07:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@tomgrz@diasporing.ch reshared: Did #NorthDakota Regulators Hide an Oil and Gas Industry Spill Larger Than #Exxon Valdez? https://www.desmogblog.com/2019/08/19/north-dakota-regulators-oil-gas-spill-exxon-valdez #corruption #fossilfuel #oil Aug 21 07:13
schestowitz"Aug 21 07:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.desmogblog.com | Did North Dakota Regulators Hide an Oil and Gas Industry Spill Larger Than Exxon Valdez? | DeSmogBlogAug 21 07:13
schestowitzAug 21 07:13
schestowitzThere are a lot of holdovers from an earlier time living there, desperate farmers who were hanging on by a thread who thought that oil drilling would solve all of their problems. They thought that the water protectors were getting in the way of that. Besides, they'd always looked down on the native Americans there anyway. They're the dominant minority in ND. The farmers thought the oil would make them rich and bring jobs and an influx of Aug 21 07:13
schestowitzmoney to state coffers. Unfortunately the oil men have been doing their jobs for a long time and they were too slick for the farmers. The farmers, of course, thought they were shrewd enough to play their game and win. I am beyond disgusted with what has become of things now. It's an environmental disaster, and those fucking farmers invited them in.Aug 21 07:13
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15750599#d8a05f30a5b5013709577a163ef10931Aug 21 07:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: “Narcissists are drawn to intelligent people. They take great pleasure in attacking, controlling and defeating intelligent people because it makes them feel smarter and more important.” http://techrights.org/2019/08/20/narcissism-in-the-community/Aug 21 07:15
schestowitz"Narcissists are not “clever” so much as “tricky”. They will pull things that you would never think of doing."Aug 21 07:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Guarding and Rescuing the FSF Titanic: Narcissism in The Community | TechrightsAug 21 07:15
schestowitz"Yikes! ;-) Wait, why am I always so alone...'Aug 21 07:15
schestowitz>> Dear Roy>Aug 21 07:23
schestowitz>> Yes It is - please can you confirm your wife's nationality?Aug 21 07:23
schestowitz>>Aug 21 07:23
schestowitz>> Kind regardsAug 21 07:23
schestowitz> Aug 21 07:23
schestowitzAny update on this? If you lack time or interest in our case, it would be useful to know so that we can ask somebody else.Aug 21 07:23
schestowitz>>> ...Aug 21 07:46
schestowitz>>> In the mean time should I power own the test machine?  OIt's availableAug 21 07:46
schestowitz>>> for experimenting with LVMs.Aug 21 07:46
schestowitz>>Aug 21 07:46
schestowitz>>Aug 21 07:46
schestowitz>> 1. yes, that would be goodAug 21 07:46
schestowitz> Aug 21 07:46
schestowitz> Ok.  If you send public keys, one for the VM guest and one for the host,Aug 21 07:46
schestowitz> I'll add them so you can log in.  The guest is SSH on port 4044 and theAug 21 07:46
schestowitz> host at port 4042 both at aquilegia.ddns.net.Aug 21 07:46
schestowitzBy "host" do you mean HV?Aug 21 07:46
schestowitzAttached is my default (I think) public key.Aug 21 07:46
schestowitz>> 2. I won't be able to manage site's backend from Rianne's laptopAug 21 07:46
schestowitz>> (not easily anyway)Aug 21 07:46
schestowitz> Aug 21 07:46
schestowitz> I'm starting to worry quite a bit about running out of space on TR.  IAug 21 07:46
schestowitz> think that can and should be solved before it becomes a crisis.Aug 21 07:46
schestowitzLast I checked the DB uses an oversized file that does not change in size (it makes extra space reserve for expansion). So it's just the log files accounting for growth.Aug 21 07:46
schestowitz[root@techrights mysql]# ls -laAug 21 07:46
schestowitztotal 9662528Aug 21 07:46
schestowitzdrwxr-xr-x.  7 mysql mysql        231 Jul 28 00:06 .Aug 21 07:46
schestowitzdrwxr-xr-x. 34 root  root        4096 Jun 11  2018 ..Aug 21 07:46
schestowitz-rw-rw----.  1 mysql mysql      16384 May  2 16:10 aria_log.00000001Aug 21 07:46
schestowitz-rw-rw----.  1 mysql mysql         52 May  2 16:10 aria_log_controlAug 21 07:46
schestowitzdrwx------.  2 mysql mysql       4096 Dec 31  2018 boycottn_drupalAug 21 07:46
schestowitzdrwx------.  2 mysql mysql       4096 Jul 27 17:47 boycottn_wikiAug 21 07:46
schestowitzdrwx------.  2 mysql mysql       8192 Jul 27 17:45 boycottn_wrdp1Aug 21 07:46
schestowitz-rw-rw----.  1 mysql mysql 9883877376 Aug 20 23:43 ibdata1Aug 21 07:46
schestowitzibdata1 has been virtually the same size for weeks. TBH, I did not check if (of which) other files grow.Aug 21 07:46
schestowitz>> 3. just published something about systemd in TR. Have a look.Aug 21 07:46
schestowitz> Aug 21 07:46
schestowitz> Nice series on the FSF, especially the part about supporting the FSF.Aug 21 07:46
schestowitz> That needs to be emphasized in each new section.  You are covering a lotAug 21 07:46
schestowitz> of salient points well.  I'm still wondering how to raise the visibilityAug 21 07:46
schestowitz> of this series and the earlier series.  Is there a link to the FreeAug 21 07:47
schestowitz> Media Alliance?  I'm not finding it in the search engines so easily.Aug 21 07:47
schestowitzIt will become more visible in the next 2 parts.Aug 21 07:47
schestowitzMaybe at the end of the series it can be summarised and promoted. I'm not in marketing, so I don't worry about that, I just publish.Aug 21 07:47
schestowitz>>>>> In the mean time should I power own the test machine?  OIt's availableAug 21 08:32
schestowitz>>>>> for experimenting with LVMs.Aug 21 08:32
schestowitz>>>>Aug 21 08:32
schestowitz>>>>Aug 21 08:32
schestowitz>>>> 1. yes, that would be goodAug 21 08:32
schestowitz>>>Aug 21 08:32
schestowitz>>> Ok.  If you send public keys, one for the VM guest and one for the host,Aug 21 08:32
schestowitz>>> I'll add them so you can log in.  The guest is SSH on port 4044 and theAug 21 08:32
schestowitz>>> host at port 4042 Aug 21 08:32
schestowitz>>Aug 21 08:32
schestowitz>> By "host" do you mean HV?Aug 21 08:32
schestowitz> Aug 21 08:32
schestowitz> The host is a notebook with Qemu running.  It is accessible from SSH atAug 21 08:32
schestowitz> port 4042 and the account 'roy' from Aug 21 08:32
schestowitzroy@gazp9:~$ dfAug 21 08:32
schestowitzFilesystem                 1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted onAug 21 08:32
schestowitzudev                         4027780         0   4027780   0% /devAug 21 08:32
schestowitztmpfs                         808820       676    808144   1% /runAug 21 08:32
schestowitz/dev/mapper/gazp9--vg-root  28703652   2136680  25085860   8% /Aug 21 08:32
schestowitz> The host is a notebook (gazp9) with Qemu running.  It is accessible fromAug 21 08:32
schestowitz> SSH at port 4042 and the account 'roy' Aug 21 08:32
schestowitzI think that by mistake you put a similar paragraph in a second time.> Aug 21 08:32
schestowitz> The guest (qcentos7) in Qemu there.  It is accessible from SSH at portAug 21 08:32
schestowitz> 4044 and the account 'roy' from aquilegia.ddns.net, while it is running.Aug 21 08:32
schestowitz> Aug 21 08:32
schestowitz> There is a script /usr/local/bin/qemu-test-centos.sh on gazp9 whichAug 21 08:32
schestowitz> fires up a smallish CentOS 7 guest, qcentos7.  You'll been sudo for itAug 21 08:32
schestowitz> because of TUN/TAP networking.  That image is for experimentation or youAug 21 08:32
schestowitz> can build a new one.  There is a backup copy of it in /home/qemu in caseAug 21 08:32
schestowitz> the experiments get too out of hand.  That image and the full-size copyAug 21 08:32
schestowitz> of TR are both found in /home/qemu/ along with a CentOS installerAug 21 08:33
schestowitz> ISO-9660 image.Aug 21 08:33
schestowitz> Aug 21 08:33
schestowitz> Feel free to rummage around there and change things on either gazp9 orAug 21 08:33
schestowitz> qcentos7, or ask and I can probably get to it.  Rebooting gazp9 isAug 21 08:33
schestowitz> probably ok.  However, powering off gazp9 means downtime of at leastAug 21 08:33
schestowitz> several hours during the day and all night during the night, shorter inAug 21 08:33
schestowitz> the evening.Aug 21 08:33
schestowitz> Aug 21 08:33
schestowitz>> Attached is my default (I think) public key.Aug 21 08:33
schestowitz> Aug 21 08:33
schestowitz> Ok.  Please try logging in to both.Aug 21 08:33
schestowitz[root@techrights mysql]# du -sAug 21 08:33
schestowitz11806356        .Aug 21 08:33
schestowitz[root@techrights mysql]# du -sAug 21 08:33
schestowitz11806588        .Aug 21 08:33
schestowitzThe first is an hour agoAug 21 08:33
schestowitzThe second a moment agoAug 21 08:33
schestowitzso the expansion rate, when not adding new articles, isn't high. I'll keep an eye throughout the day.Aug 21 08:33
schestowitz>> Maybe at the end of the series it can be summarised and promoted. I'mAug 21 08:33
schestowitz>> not in marketing, so I don't worry about that, I just publish.Aug 21 08:33
schestowitz> Aug 21 08:33
schestowitz> Best to focus on the writing.  That's by far the most important.Aug 21 08:33
schestowitzSome people nowadays read a lot of the old Bill Gates stuff (and link to it).Aug 21 08:33
schestowitz>> I want to ask, is it OK to post a parcel to your address? Safer to checkAug 21 08:36
schestowitz>> first (to avoid it returning)...Aug 21 08:36
schestowitz>>Aug 21 08:36
schestowitz> Yes.  Though it may mean a run into the nearest city to pick it up.Aug 21 08:36
schestowitz> That's not a problem though as we are there at least once a week.  TheAug 21 08:36
schestowitz> packages usually get to Finland quickly and then kick around for up to aAug 21 08:36
schestowitz> week in the south before kicking around for up to another week nearAug 21 08:36
schestowitz> Oulu.  No idea why.Aug 21 08:36
schestowitzOk, cheers.Aug 21 08:36
schestowitzCC rianneAug 21 08:36
schestowitz"Aug 21 08:52
schestowitz-= YTalk version 3.3.0 =--Aug 21 08:52
schestowitzOk, cheers.Aug 21 08:52
schestowitzoops. clipboard.Aug 21 08:52
schestowitzqcentos7 ~]$ whoamiAug 21 08:52
schestowitzroyAug 21 08:52
schestowitzCan I scroll up in ytalk?Aug 21 08:52
schestowitzIs there a scrollback file? I like to keep record of these things, it sometimes helpsAug 21 08:53
schestowitz-= 127.0.0.1 =--Aug 21 08:53
schestowitzHi.  I guess this is working now.Aug 21 08:53
schestowitzLOLAug 21 08:53
schestowitzI'm at the library a whil whhile xxxx  is shopping.   I have some time online.Aug 21 08:53
schestowitzCan you try port 4044, too?  That is the Qemu VM whic h is c                        Aug 21 08:53
schestowitzThe CentOS7 VM, I mean.Aug 21 08:53
schestowitzEPO and FSF are important.  EPO is still trying to shoehorn sw patents intothe EUAug 21 08:53
schestowitzI h=think I've fixed the permissiosn problem with the key.  Please try once more.Aug 21 08:53
schestowitzexcellent, that's inside qemuAug 21 08:53
schestowitzI'm not sure, it has been over 25 years since I've used it.Aug 21 08:53
schestowitz= YTalk version 3.3.0 =--Aug 21 08:53
schestowitzI checked my homedir, only .ssh in itAug 21 08:53
schestowitzbut it might be outside userspaceAug 21 08:53
schestowitz"When you select Options off of the main menu, you are given the opportunity to edit the YTalk options. The current options are:Aug 21 08:53
schestowitzs: turn scrolling [off/on]"Aug 21 08:53
schestowitzhttps://linux.die.net/man/1/ytalkAAAAAAAug 21 08:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://linux.die.net/man/1/ytalkAAAAAA )Aug 21 08:53
schestowitz-= YTalk version 3.3.0 =--Aug 21 08:53
schestowitzcan you fetch logs for this?Aug 21 08:53
schestowitzIf I cannot keep my record of it, then it's less useful, I'm losing track of what was discussed.Aug 21 08:53
schestowitz Aug 21 08:53
schestowitzIf we find a way, I'll add this to my small laptop for real-time commsAug 21 08:53
schestowitzit's miles lighter than ircAug 21 08:53
schestowitzsurely something goes into a file somewhere on the systemAug 21 08:53
schestowitzI can't su sudo or sudo su - BTWAug 21 08:53
schestowitzit asks for PWAug 21 08:53
schestowitzThere's a way, i've just not foudn it yet.Aug 21 08:53
schestowitztry 'xxxx' and then change it when you canAug 21 08:53
schestowitzgtg now, doing handover at workAug 21 08:53
schestowitzchanged root passwordAug 21 08:53
schestowitzI see stuff in Aug 21 08:53
schestowitz/var/log# tail wtmpAug 21 08:53
schestowitzneed to find out how logging is doneAug 21 08:53
schestowitzno such issue I can find e.g. in Aug 21 08:53
schestowitzhttps://www.slackbook.org/html/basic-network-commands-talk.htmlAug 21 08:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.slackbook.org | Talking to Other PeopleAug 21 08:53
schestowitz"Aug 21 08:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/1164075736896036864Aug 21 09:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Sheikh_al_Touar: Computer-Generated Patent Applications Show That Patents and Innovations Are Very Different Things #law #patents… https://t.co/zpq410gVIWAug 21 09:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Sheikh_al_Touar: Computer-Generated Patent Applications Show That Patents and Innovations Are Very Different Things #law #patents… https://t.co/zpq410gVIWAug 21 09:12
schestowitz"Computer-Generated Patent Applications Show That Patents and Innovations Are Very Different Things #law #patents #innovation #Europe""Aug 21 09:12
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/1164075318099021824Aug 21 09:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Sheikh_al_Touar: IP Kat Pays the Price for Being a Megaphone of Team UPC #deception #patents #media #journalism #Europe https://t.co/noUqYdiBlIAug 21 09:14
schestowitz"IP Kat Pays the Price for Being a Megaphone of Team UPC #deception #patents #media #journalism #Europe"Aug 21 09:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | IP Kat Pays the Price for Being a Megaphone of Team UPC | TechrightsAug 21 09:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/1164076145643589632Aug 21 09:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Sheikh_al_Touar: Breaking the Law Has Become the Norm at the European Patent Office #law #patents #Europe https://t.co/0E49ezhgAcAug 21 09:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Breaking the Law Has Become the Norm at the European Patent Office | TechrightsAug 21 09:15
schestowitzRe: small favour to ask> if its not something youre strictly against doing, could you add a newline before "7. functions" in the fsf titanic education article?Aug 21 09:23
schestowitz> Aug 21 09:23
schestowitz> my advice to (whatever it takes actually) make the columns wider in techrights is a separate issue, i know that when i write something it can run the risk of bring too wide for techrights. its a risk im willing to take and in general, its obvious to the reader who can then take steps to read the overflow.Aug 21 09:23
schestowitz> Aug 21 09:23
schestowitz> so i wouldnt normally ask, in this single instance though it would help a great deal to have 7. function go on the next line after items 4-6. generally with edits once it goes on techrights i dont like to ask for edits of any sort, this exception regarding whitespace only notwithstanding. cheers.Aug 21 09:23
schestowitzOn my browser it shows up ok.Aug 21 09:23
schestowitzWhat are you using?Aug 21 09:23
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schestowitz> On my browser it shows up ok. What are you using? --Aug 21 09:46
schestowitz> Aug 21 09:46
schestowitz> fair enough, i thought you might say that, and if it works for you it probably works for most people.Aug 21 09:46
schestowitz> Aug 21 09:46
schestowitz> i find different fonts a distraction, and given that i grew up with dos-- i have about 10 terms open on one machine and 20 on a machine i use for development-- i set all websites to use fixed-width fonts. ive designed websites and understand that sometimes this may have silly consequences. it also uncovers some lack of flexibility in conventional designs but youre not wrong to file this one as a false positive. i too am content if item Aug 21 09:46
schestowitz7. displays for most people. cheers.Aug 21 09:46
schestowitzYes, I even double-checked that before publishing as isAug 21 09:46
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1164190512376627200Aug 21 16:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: A bit of misunderstanding here. Unlike other IBM acquisitions, Red Hat is not being assimilated but remains a sepa… https://t.co/IiNVwr0qfjAug 21 16:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: A bit of misunderstanding here. Unlike other IBM acquisitions, Red Hat is not being assimilated but remains a sepa… https://t.co/IiNVwr0qfjAug 21 16:37
schestowitzA bit of misunderstanding here. Unlike other IBM acquisitions,  Red Hat is not being assimilated but remains a separate business. http://OpenSource.com  remains the property of Red Hat: Linux Journal and http://Linux.com  Should Have Been Kept Going""Aug 21 16:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-opensource.com | Opensource.com | Opensource.comAug 21 16:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linux.com | Linux.com | News for the open source professionalAug 21 16:37
schestowitzThat's what AMD said of ATIAug 21 16:37
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schestowitzhttp://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2019/08/16/germany-will-not-ratify-upca-as-long-as-consequences-brexit-are-not-known/Aug 21 23:08
schestowitz"Aug 21 23:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Germany will not ratify UPCA as long as consequences Brexit are not known - Kluwer Patent BlogAug 21 23:08
schestowitzWhile I agree with peter Parker that more integration is necessary on an EU level, this is currently politically impossible. Italy, Hungary, Poland, and the United Kingdom see to that. While the Brexit may get us rid of one of those anti-EU polemics (and I was against a prolongation beyond the EU elections for several reasons), the others demand reforms, but their reform proposals amount to a more egocentrical redistribution of EU budget, Aug 21 23:08
schestowitzwhile also paying less into it .Aug 21 23:08
schestowitzI fear we might need to scrap the EU and found a second one, hopefully with a real parliament this time, and less influence for member states and the representatives of their governments. Alas, most national constitutions stand in the way of de-powering the national assemblies in favour of a central Europan one.Aug 21 23:08
schestowitzWe might need to abolish the national constitutions through adopting one central pan-European one.Aug 21 23:08
schestowitzBut I fear the only one with the power to do that currently is Vladimir Putin.Aug 21 23:08
schestowitz'Aug 21 23:08
schestowitz"Aug 21 23:09
schestowitzOne should not forget that there was an attempt to have a supranational jurisdiction for patent disputes for all member states of the EPC. It was called EPLA and was an open treaty like the EPC.Aug 21 23:09
schestowitzThis attempt was killed in the bud and led eventually to the UPC. Has Peter Parker forgot Opinion C 1/09? Not invented here and not conform to EU law.Aug 21 23:09
schestowitzOn the other hand, it was clear that beside the possibility to answer prejudicial questions, which is an absolute necessity should a treaty be in accordance with Union law, the CJEU should be kept out from the appreciation of substantive patent law. Peter Parker’s proposal is not at all in line with the UPCA and this aim. On the other hand the CJEU has never said that it would not at substantive patent law and its interpretation.Aug 21 23:09
schestowitzA big mistake by the promoters has been not to ask the CJEU what it holds from the UPC. One wonders why? It is merely claimed that it is conform to Union law, but the proof of it has never been served.Aug 21 23:09
schestowitzEuropean integration is certainly a worthwhile aim, but only if the inconvenience is not larger than the advantage of it. Ever heard of subsidiarity? The Luxembourg convention was dead borne and I am not convinced that the UPC has correctly and fully avoided its drawbacks like forum shopping or the language problem.Aug 21 23:09
schestowitzI have to agree with Max Drei that the present configuration is much better and a healthy competition is better than an unifying action based on the smallest common denominator.Aug 21 23:09
schestowitzA good way of having more integration is to bring more regularly judges dealing with IP together. After all, all member states of the EPC have the same law as basis. The difference lies more in the national traditions. Whilst those were quickly wiped out at the EPO and its Boards of Appeal, it takes longer at the national level. With the exhaustion of patent rights, the CJEU created a very good tool against fragmentation of the market. Do Aug 21 23:09
schestowitzwe really need more?Aug 21 23:09
schestowitzHow many cases warrant actions in all member states of the EU? Probably les than a handful. One good example is the famous pemetrexed case. Even there not all jurisdictions have followed the decision of the U.K. Supreme Court. See the recent decision of the District Court in The Hague. And it is good so.Aug 21 23:09
schestowitzThe creation of the UPC will make it easier for non-EU member states to attack European industry and SMEs. I fear that this thought has never crossed the mind of all the promoters of the UPC who seemed primarily more interested in making even more money as presently.Aug 21 23:09
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schestowitz“Me, I prefer the friendly competition between the Judges of GB, NL and DE, when it comes to interpreting the legal provisions of the EPC.”Aug 21 23:09
schestowitzI hope that was also tongue-in-cheek, MaxDrei, because the other 35 contracting states would have something to say about being left out of that “competition”. Not that competition, friendly or otherwise, between judiciaries is necessarily a good thing either…Aug 21 23:09
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schestowitzI wonder where Peter Parker’s tongue was, relative to his cheek, when he wrote that comment. Once the perennially odd-man-out, English-law UK has departed the civil-law EU, and notwithstanding the ongoing membership of the Republic of Ireland, the way will be clear for all sorts of fresh initiatives to reform supra-national EU law.Aug 21 23:09
schestowitzBut whether that could lead to the CJEU hearing appeals on the substantive law of patent validity, I have no idea. Given its efforts on the law of trademarks within the EU, I’m not sure anyway that it would be a good thing. Me, I prefer the friendly competition between the Judges of GB, NL and DE, when it comes to interpreting the legal provisions of the EPC. That’s the better way to raise quality, in my opinion.Aug 21 23:09
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