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| schestowitz-TR | after the reboot TR IPFS machine does not have limits set right | Sep 21 04:51 |
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| schestowitz-TR | god knows what we did to make the cron job run correwctly | Sep 21 04:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | do you remember? | Sep 21 04:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | this means today's hashes are not yet available | Sep 21 04:51 |
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| Techrights-sec | I am not familiar with the IPFS set up in any way. :/ | Sep 21 06:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | still working to make ipfs work again | Sep 21 06:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | I can run it manually again | Sep 21 06:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then you can pick the output file | Sep 21 06:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | running manually | Sep 21 06:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok, see if the output file is OK now | Sep 21 06:57 |
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| Techrights-sec | Ok | Sep 21 07:03 |
| Techrights-sec | checking | Sep 21 07:03 |
| Techrights-sec | Seems ok | Sep 21 07:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks, after you get the file I will return to trying to get the cron job running | Sep 21 07:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | I didn't take notes of how it had been solved last time | Sep 21 07:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's about the cron being able to set ulimit for ENV | Sep 21 07:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok, I will carry on trying | Sep 21 07:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | and taking notes this time | Sep 21 07:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | as we lose that after a reboot | Sep 21 07:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | we've moved a lot of the irc stuff to techpol so that politics is in another channel | Sep 21 07:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | so far, so good, i think | Sep 21 07:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | I also did implement some bot changes to that effect | Sep 21 07:20 |
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| Techrights-sec | iirc hv is still in need of a reboot | Sep 21 09:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is truly time-consuming (almost all morning so far) | Sep 21 10:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I learn from trial and error how ulimit works in alpine | Sep 21 10:32 |
| Techrights-sec | tuning is needed so that it can resume properly automatically on its own after | Sep 21 10:32 |
| Techrights-sec | any reboot, so this is a good chance to fix and annotate | Sep 21 10:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | exactly | Sep 21 10:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | the short story is, | Sep 21 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is a sort of hierarchy of limits | Sep 21 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the error message don't help you | Sep 21 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | root | Sep 21 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | userspace | Sep 21 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | script | Sep 21 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | cron | Sep 21 10:36 |
| Techrights-sec | cron will work across reboots, but must be added by hand after a new installation | Sep 21 10:50 |
| Techrights-sec | There is now an open-rc service for the primitive IDS via tmux. | Sep 21 10:58 |
| Techrights-sec | So that should come back up when the system restarts. | Sep 21 10:58 |
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| schestowitz-TR | thanks, I'm still a little frustrated by ulimit | Sep 21 10:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | but am feeling close now | Sep 21 10:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | last time I did not take noted of what I had done | Sep 21 10:59 |
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| Techrights-sec | I cannot recall much of anything regarding ulimit other than that something | Sep 21 11:08 |
| Techrights-sec | was looked up. :/ | Sep 21 11:08 |
| Techrights-sec | Busybox NTPd now enabled. The clock should get back in sync soon. | Sep 21 11:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | I got stuck | Sep 21 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | could use your help | Sep 21 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | no matter what I try, in scripts or in cron I cannot set Sn and Hn in ulimit to anything higher than 8K | Sep 21 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | the script from cron still writes to /tmp/foo | Sep 21 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | I worked on this on and off since around 5am | Sep 21 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I feel insanely unproductive | Sep 21 12:31 |
| Techrights-sec | checking | Sep 21 12:32 |
| Techrights-sec | Do you have notes from security.limits.conf ? | Sep 21 12:32 |
| Techrights-sec | A package is required for that, IIRC it is installed. | Sep 21 12:32 |
| Techrights-sec | IIRC those, too, require a reboot to take effect. Thereafter limits.conf | Sep 21 12:32 |
| Techrights-sec | can be used. | Sep 21 12:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | I reinstalled the 3 packages you had added before | Sep 21 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sure if that altered anything major | Sep 21 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | update-index.sh near the top shows many things that were attempted | Sep 21 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | on home/xxx/ | Sep 21 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's called from crontab | Sep 21 12:34 |
| Techrights-sec | Which machine / path for update-index.sh ? | Sep 21 12:34 |
| Techrights-sec | IIRC it was the cron part which had the problem with ulimit | Sep 21 12:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, I cannot set ulimit -Sn and -Hn to anything higher than 4096 | Sep 21 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | no matter what I try | Sep 21 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | so maybe this limitation is hard-coded somewhere | Sep 21 12:46 |
| Techrights-sec | $ ulimit -a | grep files | Sep 21 12:59 |
| Techrights-sec | open files (-n) 16384 | Sep 21 12:59 |
| Techrights-sec | So it must be something with cron | Sep 21 12:59 |
| Techrights-sec | Can you try the cron again now? | Sep 21 12:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks, will try now | Sep 21 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | haha!!! | Sep 21 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | aha | Sep 21 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | rather | Sep 21 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | seems to have worked | Sep 21 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | let's see if it completes the whole job from the cron job :-) | Sep 21 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | made by day, so far.. | Sep 21 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | the page shows up ok now | Sep 21 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | i'll clean up a few things and get rest | Sep 21 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks for solving it so quickly | Sep 21 13:19 |
| Techrights-sec | (ulimit in /etc/init.d/crond as a possible kludge) | Sep 21 13:22 |
| Techrights-sec | :) | Sep 21 13:22 |
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| Techrights-sec | np | Sep 21 15:27 |
| Techrights-sec | Can we schedule a reboot of hv soon, in part to verify the automation? | Sep 21 15:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | one issue her, the irc network | Sep 21 15:28 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 21 15:28 |
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| Techrights-sec | Can TR or TM receive donations via GNU Taler yet? | Sep 21 16:54 |
| Techrights-sec | https://taler.net/en/features.html | Sep 21 16:54 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-taler.net | GNU Taler | Sep 21 16:54 | |
| schestowitz-TR | I have not thought about this for a whole | Sep 21 16:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | a) i think taler is connected to gnunet but not sure | Sep 21 16:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | gnunet is not yet condieered stable | Sep 21 16:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | b) our scarcity atm is time rather than funds | Sep 21 16:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | c) we had a hailirious incident yesterday and my colleagues were lying to clients | Sep 21 16:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | which I was very unhappy about | Sep 21 16:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't wish to publicly share the details, but I don't facepalm anymore | Sep 21 16:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's how bad the company became | Sep 21 16:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | re (b) thanks for helping, I was getting rather miserable pouring out a TON of time in vain | Sep 21 16:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | (the ulimit issue/enigma) | Sep 21 16:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am racing through my ress eeds now to make time for articles/videos | Sep 21 16:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | --- | Sep 21 17:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are still some junk 'articles' (parrots) about rust and linux | Sep 21 17:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | some cite sjvn, an lf (via zdnet) operative | Sep 21 17:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's too late to turn this around, unless someone forked the kernel -- an infeasible task | Sep 21 17:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | they kepyt saying we need to attract more newbs to kernel dev | Sep 21 17:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't see how adding a SECND language achieves this | Sep 21 17:31 |
| Techrights-sec | np | Sep 21 17:59 |
| Techrights-sec | Adding a second language ossifies the project. Instead of one group of | Sep 21 17:59 |
| Techrights-sec | developers of varying skills and experience, you end up with at least four: | Sep 21 17:59 |
| Techrights-sec | Those good in C but not Rust, those good in Rust but not C, those good in C | Sep 21 17:59 |
| Techrights-sec | and familiar with Rust, those good in Rust and familiar with C. You generally | Sep 21 17:59 |
| Techrights-sec | have to be good at a language to spot subtle mistakes in design or implementation so few even have the opportunity for gaining a good overview. Furthermore | Sep 21 17:59 |
| Techrights-sec | huge questions surround Rust maintenance, govenernance, and control. | Sep 21 17:59 |
| Techrights-sec | LT /could/ fork the kernel himself but I think they have his balls in a vice and | Sep 21 17:59 |
| Techrights-sec | so he won't. He still controls the trademark, too. He could take that with | Sep 21 17:59 |
| Techrights-sec | and use it for the fork. There is enough corporate control over what would | Sep 21 17:59 |
| Techrights-sec | be the old kernel, that it would live on in more or less its current form | Sep 21 17:59 |
| Techrights-sec | long enough for a smooth transition. | Sep 21 17:59 |
| Techrights-sec | Or so I would guess. | Sep 21 17:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe linus thought about this already, but not aloud | Sep 21 18:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe you should email him these thoughts | Sep 21 18:00 |
| Techrights-sec | I dont know him and vice versa. Without being able to offer any technical work | Sep 21 18:01 |
| Techrights-sec | I think there would be very little point him getting a mail from someone he | Sep 21 18:01 |
| Techrights-sec | does not know. | Sep 21 18:01 |
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| schestowitz-TR | i wonder the professionalk background of canonical/ubuntu product managers3~ | Sep 21 18:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | at one point thy were hiring/advertising with wsl crap | Sep 21 18:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | draft | Sep 21 18:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe oliver came from micosoft | Sep 21 18:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | i did not check | Sep 21 18:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | screenshot just added | Sep 21 18:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | the name of the workere is generic | Sep 21 18:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think I looked him up in the past | Sep 21 18:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is no linmk to a unique id/username | Sep 21 18:30 |
| Techrights-sec | reading | Sep 21 18:30 |
| Techrights-sec | It's likely, but microsofters tend to try to cover their tracks a little | Sep 21 18:30 |
| Techrights-sec | these days. | Sep 21 18:30 |
| Techrights-sec | He's connected with a lot of M$ WSL training and articles/ | Sep 21 18:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | can you give some URLs? | Sep 21 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | that can help further | Sep 21 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | I still work on the text a bit | Sep 21 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | to cover more points, concisely | Sep 21 18:32 |
| Techrights-sec | https://nitter.it/ubuntu/status/1493918498992668677 | Sep 21 18:32 |
| Techrights-sec | https://ubuntu.com/blog/author/local-optimum | Sep 21 18:32 |
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| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Oliver Smith | Ubuntu | Sep 21 18:32 | |
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