IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, October 21, 2022

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just like "tweets"

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does not provide any info on what was said

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very little subnstance in it

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read it a second time

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it is also syunningly short

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low budget, 4 paragraphs

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it's like 4 tweets fused into an 'article

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it would not susprised me if it started as yle tweetso

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or, if they postsed this article in twitter as 4 tweets

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and some stock photograph not related to this bunch of incidents

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like michael phorosoft posting tweets as long 'articles'

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mostly a dozen or so links to himse,f to drive "engagement"

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or do 40-line article on a commit like 2 lines added to a header .h file

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in the early 2000s the Net had far longer and more detailed articles

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those still exist but are rare

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Twenty years ago there were still many competing, quality news sites and

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magazines. IIRC that was before Wired was sold off, too.

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Once sold, it stopped covering policy aspects.

Oct 21 02:22

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theverge is partly owned by comcast now

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just so that you are aware

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nilesh did a Signal 'interview' the other day

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the botto of the papage makes it clear who owns them now

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but not the top oft he chaom

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*chain

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comcast over a third

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*Nilay, not Nilesh

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wikipedia says both theverge and vox were founded/laucnhed on the very same day

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that must be wrong

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I stopped covering The Verge for the most part after the UI redesign made

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it innavigable. It is impossible to get an overview of which articles are

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current and the writing style has changed so you can't see what the article

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is actually about until well through the article. All in all it looks redesigned for "engagement" rather than en

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lightenment.

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Wikipedia is usually full of shit. Too bad. It can be useful in some contexts

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but only as a means of finding external links. Even then, they have

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curated the selection of external links so as to hide certain facts and

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steer perception in particular directions.

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we have more info on friedman

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he might still be at microsoft

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or out-of-date info

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we'll get around to that, eventually

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he seems to be hiring some PR firms

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hiding stuff

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One thing it seems ok at, due to the external links, is finding out which

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license a given piece of Free and Open Source Software is under. The project

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pages often have been given the appearance of corporate brochures and are thus

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devoid of any useful information about the project. So Wikipedia is useful

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to /quickly/ find the link to the license and avoid 30 minutes of annoying

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search engine drudgery.

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His use of PR firms to spin perception would be par for the course. My only

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question there is how much help, in guidance and financial support, his use

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of PR firms has gotten directly from HQ

Oct 21 02:32

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sites that are for uk general news are lacking in TR

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for australian it's mostly michael west

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canada also lacking, i think

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but it's because so many are compromised

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guardian, billbc etc.

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sending traffic to them is googlejuice for malicious state-connected PR and billness

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there are some domains I opccasionally link to but wish I could avoid

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but on the www the choices (of sources) become fewer

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and gulag noise recently re-added tracking to rss

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so when you click a link gulag registers what is clicked

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that changed happened less than 24 hours ago, at least in uk

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(I keep two feeds there to fish out any 'linux' sites whose rss feeds I've not added yet...

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atm almost anything there can be ignored as I find the same directly aleady)

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g2g 2 bed

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bbl

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ack

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alex begs me to stop writing about him

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but fails to point out any incorrect things

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so that means we hiy where it hurts

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that also hurt nat and miguel

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no inaccuracies; probably usefu to highlight both his moral support from m$ as

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well as how he represents their corporate culture and values?

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I don't plan to respond, only to post more when the time is right

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there's more in there than just him, it is a network of pervert

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I'm told Nat Friedman is "the harvey weinstein of silicon valley"

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getting naked at parties and stuff

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but need more material before making this kind of analogy

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There's kind of a distinction between taking your clothes off and raping people

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indecent exposure is an offense

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ack

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links to come later today?

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baib, gym..

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no hurry :-)

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yes

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still no word about "smart" phones

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it was "asap" start of last week

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and this week is ending

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I hope I killed it :-)

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btw, last night I took a peek at the gemini public stats page

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I very seldom check it

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it shows that our OLD stuff about IBM and also LF is gaining traction

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the DDG one wanes, as more sites now cover the Microsoft connections

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so we're not "exclusive"

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I think something goes on at IBM and we're the only ones who covered it

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so the links circulate, maybe internally

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the icbm attacks on fsf came after they hire several managers from microsoft

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so you can imagine them there in boardrooms and stuff

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One can hope that the idea of "smartphones" at work has been killed off.

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Aren't a lot of peopel quitting IBM in addition to those that are fired?

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I saw a few digs against RMS by some idiots the other day, too. So there

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are still malfeasants circulating lies and disinformation.

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ime, this predates 2019

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but increased in

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frequency

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and tenacity (of allegations)

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after 2019

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even if much of that is untrue

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many fale articles stay online

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including MS-ZDNet, thanks SJVN!!

psydruid

RMS was/is an existential threat to those companies

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so RMS must be terminated

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Gardiner Bryant for Microsoft's proprietary garbage. AKA "Linux Gamer"... now just Steam (DRM) shill https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky7-vdorVC0

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Invidious: https://invidious.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=ky7-vdorVC0

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> inv.bp.projectsegfau.lt | UPDATED: Play Minecraft on your Steam Deck the EASY WAY. - Invidious

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ack

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I forgot he might still be around. He stopped having anything relevant once

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he sold out. I checked on his videos periodically for some months, but

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he has had nothing worth looking at since selling out. Did I mention he sold out?

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it's mostly advertisinf

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i see the title but never click

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I stopped checking even the title many months ago.

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sell out, cash in...

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either way, a short-term, self-harming, destructive strategy

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muktware DID have some traffic in the past

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[12:31] <reptilian_thrills> andreas fuchs signed the anti-stallman letter

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[12:31] <reptilian_thrills> i dont know if its the same one but theres a github user named andreasfuchstpm

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[12:32] <reptilian_thrills> pretty clear what that "rivalry" is about t hen

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[12:32] <reptilian_thrills> oh you dont like tpm huh, well, guess what?

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[12:32] <reptilian_thrills> but i dont know how many andreas fucks there are

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re snyk, I did not open the link

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but they got TONS in VC money

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now we know a lot of VC cash was sunk into total BS or...

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as per the URL, "snake oil"

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did not click, but I know that site has brett winterford

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Microsoft's notorious OOXML shill

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I will never forget his name

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They are victim of the sunk-cost-fallacy and will push their false agenda

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for a while longer in an attempt to be able to cash out.

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otoh, black *uck and its promoters at securityy buolevard have been rather quiet lately

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they perish, I reckon

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black *uck software, the founder is now a lobbying for msft

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he never stopped

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he lays eggs for bill

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One can hope. However the poseurs and bullshitters seem to be putting a great

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emphasis on lobbying in DC right now, due to the election and the war putting

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them at a risk of vanishing if they are seen for what they are.

https://www.computerworld.com/article/2574101/warning--don-t-buy-security-snake-oil.html

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Warning: Don't Buy Security Snake Oil | Computerworld

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latest phoronix story is xbox

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I sent him a lot of traffic for 15 years

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now this...

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^ from 2003 yet corporate America still throws money at Wintel

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computerworld is owned and controlled by china now

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btw, farnell will have an article for us shortly

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he's a "relic", one of the few who stll promoe security and not snakeoil or "clown"

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"clown" is the oposite of secuirty

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clown is security breach

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IDG

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Excellent.

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Clown computer == clown show

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clown computing = aphrodiziac for imposters

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"can't set up email, can sign some EULA with Gulag instead"

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gitHUB (or gitlab.com): can't do git, can open a 'free' (or paid) account online

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you know..

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.there's that old saying about sending away skills

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like old trade

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not archery or ols school things

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or shoemaking

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if you have a generation with no person who knows the art o the trade

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you are at someone else's mercy or lose knowledge

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the patents weremeant to help with that

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or were push under these false pretences

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and that relates to tech

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you soon have people who have no understanding of very basic concepts

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so they become easy targets for attacks and prey to snake oil, outsourcing

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they think security is a product that they buy like a basket of fruit

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rather than something inherent in the program

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like it's an item in the invoice with a tickbox next to it

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or an "app"

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(7 years ago rianne's cousin wanted to pass photos to us)

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(instead of sending the JPEGs she installed some "apps")

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Currently there are almost none left. Those in the know have aged out or been

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forced out. There are virtually none in the pipeline since learning means

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circumventing all current "educational" and vocational education and training.

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Both education and training now focus on teaching snake oil to frauds. and

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actively weed out those with who try to learn and, especially, even those

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with an aptitude for CS

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Twenty years ago all top universities and many leadning businesses had AFS going

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and could share files securely, globally. Now no one can share files easily

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let alone securely.

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i think rianne and I got our CS degrees just narrowly before this happened

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I was allowed to use latex, actave, unix, but some stupid moles with no tech skills tried to push

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Windows for 'Supercomputers'

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they in fact succeeded, temporarily, in replacing the debian we had going on the compute farms

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and that drove out geeks

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Microsoft was interfering with things that worked ok

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Microsoft needs to have 0 staff

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I hope I'll still be active online to see that day

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billg will probably be dead by then

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some revisionism about BASIC around 2AM todoay

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in the IRC logs

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I am thankfully still alive to correct this

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quotes you on it

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the response to Mitchell

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I searched for info on BASIC being fished from a dumpster

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Techrights was in the results

https://web.archive.org/web/20051207191732/http://www.computerworld.com/securitytopics/security/story/0,10801,86730,00.html

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | CIOs Share the Blame - Computerworld

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Even commentary against the carpetbaggers is removed by IDG

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I am not an authority on any topic.

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Bill got his code from the dumpster and trash cans.

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Bill and his unindicted co-conspirators were also quite smug about having

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stolen a lot of computer time from the university too.

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when rms breaksd such secuirty he is a villian

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when bill g does it it's "clever" and "brilliant"

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Not even an appropriate comparison.

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rms = making ways to bypass the password

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at coding level

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billg = sabotages a system for fair sharing

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which one is victimless?

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<techrights-news> "How Moscow and Kyiv use kamikaze drones" ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/21/is-russia-the-only-country-to-bomb-electrical-grids/ | Source: Counter Punch

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Is Russia the Only Country to Bomb Electrical Grids? - CounterPunch.org

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ack

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new exercise routine: nearby food shop, if weather seems good, even temporarily

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organic eggs are 2.50 for a six packs. crazy.

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new exercise routine: nearby food shop, if weather seems good, even temporarily

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organic eggs are 2.50 for a six packs. crazy.

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Re-reading a book from 1998 on information architecture. The first edition

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was really good. The second edition was all about sucking up to M$ on every

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other page and right before the company the authors were involved in went

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under as a result. It had been profitable for a decade right up to becoming

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a "partner" of M$. At that point they quickly went into the red and closed

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down rather than run up a debt. There is a strong connection between the

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two events even if the authors are unwilling to admit it. All it takes is

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one really bad decision, and I mean really bad, and the company gets blown away.

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can you check the draft? for opinion, not just typos

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Ok.

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The summary is missing what is click-baity about his behavior. Maybe mention that his stories are warmed over "t

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weets" and press releases pushing products

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and companies which are strongly antagonistic to FOSS.

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Try writing from the perspective of a gemini post, where the text has to

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stand on its own without links or pictures. The pictures probably get ignored

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mostly for a lot of reasons not the least of which is that historically

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there has been a high risk that they turn out to be animated GIFs

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useful feedback, I am going to add footnotes now

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ack

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Footnotes are ok but maybe could have been worked into an article proper.

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I have a lot of things to criticise

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but am sometimes too reluctant to repeat what I said many times before, inc. in irc

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6 footnotes added

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I think I will record a video later and then I will have the arguments in my head

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and be able to write better text

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like I did 3 days ago with the 'secure core'/OCP BS

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tying together the screenshots, comments, phoronix bs, and more

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like I said, those posts become popular later

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many people still don't understand what lf is

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The screenshots are of very limited value without an accomanying body of

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text.

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right, I have just added the headlines to the alt in the image

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that ought to help gemini readers

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ALT helps but is not a full substitute for actual text in the body of the

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document for the GemText

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rianne still has phoronix in her feeds, but she mostly passes over

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i explained to her the screenshot in preparation for some video later

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after the video I can more easily explain

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that some anti-FS people like crazy matt agree with me on this

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is not flattery

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but phoronix has changed

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i spent a lot of my life boosting the former site

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he should just get a job like we do

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and then remove the ads from his site

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and be independent

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he did dabble in 'consulting' in the past

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now with energy prices soaring his bills will be no monkey business