●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, December 21, 2021 ●● ● Dec 21 [00:49] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:49] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 21 [01:09] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@t25x9hgy9xhrc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:09] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 21 [02:02] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Connection closed) [02:02] *u-amarsh04 has quit (connection closed) ● Dec 21 [03:26] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:26] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 21 [04:31] Techrights-sec afk [04:31] Techrights-sec gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/20/not-so-smart-cars/ [04:31] Techrights-sec Eventually the supply of old cars will run out and then even those that [04:31] Techrights-sec have succeeded, until then, in avoiding them will have their hand forced. [04:31] Techrights-sec The only way out is to influence the supply chain. [04:31] Techrights-sec Another aspect to cover, one which is as pernicious as the software aspects, [04:31] Techrights-sec is the push to move all aspects of car use and car maintenance over to [04:31] Techrights-sec subscription based models. [04:43] Techrights-sec [04:43] Techrights-sec Even roadside service subscriptions have replaced the spare tire + jack [04:43] Techrights-sec I don't mean leasing a car or similar to leasing, but the repair contracts [04:43] Techrights-sec in place of being able to choose where and when to do maintenance. Also [04:43] Techrights-sec various functionalties, such as the remote start addressed by Louis in his [04:43] Techrights-sec video. However, whole cars are being pushed as a subscription "service" [04:43] Techrights-sec nowadays: https://www.repairsmith.com/i/blog/how-do-car-subscription-services-work/ [04:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.repairsmith.com | How Do Car Subscription Services Work? | RepairSmith Blog [04:43] Techrights-sec https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_subscription [04:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Vehicle subscription - Wikipedia [04:43] Techrights-sec That's a different matter. ● Dec 21 [05:05] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:07] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@hrtihjfuwwjea.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [05:08] Techrights-sec https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cz.skodaauto.connect&hl=en&gl=US [05:08] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-play.google.com | MyKODA - Apps on Google Play [05:09] schestowitz-TR what a clusterfuck. You can see it in reviews, too. [05:18] Techrights-sec yep [05:18] Techrights-sec btw happy solstice [05:18] Techrights-sec as for those reviews, I figure with a distribution of scores like that, many [05:18] Techrights-sec of the +5 votes are probably shills. [05:18] schestowitz-TR there is a whole industry for that [05:19] Techrights-sec ack [05:26] Techrights-sec router maintenance; eta 30 minutes [05:56] *activelow has quit (connection closed) [05:56] *activelow (~activelow@e5fkzrnvmqm3q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 21 [06:04] Techrights-sec maintenance done [06:33] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Dec 21 [07:32] *leah has quit (connection closed) [07:32] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 21 [09:08] schestowitz-TR I should mention this [09:08] schestowitz-TR even though it was posted in irc logs for full transparency already [09:08] schestowitz-TR there's this small firm that seems to offer ipfs mirroring (so to speak, metapher) servcie [09:08] schestowitz-TR they contacted me in twitter [09:08] schestowitz-TR than in email as well, as I never reply to "tweets" [09:08] schestowitz-TR maybe they can help sort out othe capacity issues [09:08] schestowitz-TR e.g. by pinning (or similar) the content [09:08] schestowitz-TR shall they ever cease to do this, fine [09:08] schestowitz-TR because the way ipfs works, nothing is essential [09:08] schestowitz-TR as long as at least one node still has a copy [09:09] Techrights-sec That would be great. [09:09] Techrights-sec Any improvement in the current workflow and back end would be very helpful. [09:09] schestowitz-TR it would potentially reduce somewhat the strain on our home network [09:10] schestowitz-TR I still have a fibreoptic router installed and ready to use [09:10] schestowitz-TR based on some readings I did, there's a risk associated [09:10] schestowitz-TR like downtimes and such [09:10] schestowitz-TR I don't want to be the first in my whole area to adopt it [09:10] schestowitz-TR and I already had bad experiences, which is why I bailed out [09:15] Techrights-sec ack [09:15] Techrights-sec Fibre would probably help relability and the local services. [09:15] Techrights-sec Remote sites would not be noticeably faster because of the lag /on/ the [09:15] Techrights-sec remote servers themselves. Many pages take > 10 seconds to load and then [09:15] Techrights-sec a second or two on top of that to finish rendering. [09:17] schestowitz-TR topic change if you don't mind: [09:17] schestowitz-TR colleague (Hannah) got covid, she's not the first [09:17] schestowitz-TR we are a small company [09:17] schestowitz-TR the strain means rianne gets extra paid shifts [09:17] schestowitz-TR but as you may have noticed, covid slipped out of control here [09:17] schestowitz-TR and I am guessing right after xmas, just like last year, we'll lock down again [09:17] schestowitz-TR you know who the gov will blame [09:18] Techrights-sec ack [09:18] Techrights-sec be sure that the pay rates are comensurate with overtime work i e 2x or more [09:18] Techrights-sec The UK is going to have a major problem after Xmas + New Year since there [09:18] Techrights-sec are no precautions being taken. I expect the US will hit 1M dead soon. [09:21] schestowitz-TR since 2011 when I joined they always paid the same for extra shift [09:21] schestowitz-TR yewt worse, the more you are paid, the higher the tax [09:21] schestowitz-TR so overtime shift are, in a sense, paying less than the normal [09:21] schestowitz-TR but this is not ogligatory , just an extra [09:21] schestowitz-TR and I compensate for the BS salary by working less [09:21] schestowitz-TR or working not hard [09:21] schestowitz-TR they know they pay way below market value [09:21] schestowitz-TR and thus cannot complain [09:23] Techrights-sec What kind of compensation can they give for the shifts then, if not monetary? [09:23] Techrights-sec A double shift is a real burden even if it does not necessarily feel like it [09:23] Techrights-sec at the moment. [09:23] schestowitz-TR I like how someone in ibm the layofff board put it [09:24] schestowitz-TR about controlling the salary by taking it down a gear [09:24] Techrights-sec How did IBM do that? [09:25] schestowitz-TR not IBM, some workers. They just pace down the work [09:26] Techrights-sec ack [09:26] Techrights-sec What does your union recommend? [09:26] schestowitz-TR we don't have a union, but I chat with some colleagues OTR [09:27] Techrights-sec In some countries it is very useful to have membership. [09:27] schestowitz-TR I considered joining one when Samreen (aka "Sarin Gas") was harassing workers [09:34] Techrights-sec ack [09:34] schestowitz-TR an UNOFFICIAL collective, led by me I think, contributed to her demise [09:36] schestowitz-TR the person who replaced her is a kind one [09:53] schestowitz Lederhosen.... [09:53] schestowitz https://www.flickr.com/photos/sassimunich/4243929681/ [09:53] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.flickr.com | Flickr [09:54] schestowitz Miguel de Icaza in the back: [09:54] schestowitz https://www.flickr.com/photos/sassimunich/4244701434/in/photostream/ [09:54] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.flickr.com | Flickr [09:54] schestowitz Friend and CEO of Stripe Patrick Collison (maybe not sure if this is him) [09:54] schestowitz https://www.flickr.com/photos/sassimunich/4246408902/in/album-72157623140728850/ [09:54] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.flickr.com | Flickr [09:54] schestowitz https://www.flickr.com/photos/sassimunich/4245640193/in/album-72157623140728850/ (Possibly John Collison on the far left) [09:54] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.flickr.com | Flickr [09:54] schestowitz Does not look like the guy, but that was 12 years ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Collison [09:54] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Patrick Collison - Wikipedia [09:55] schestowitz-TR could use further research on this, as Nat will still serve Microsofft [09:56] Techrights-sec good [09:56] Techrights-sec btw there are masks which do a better job of filtering incomming particles than [09:56] Techrights-sec others [09:56] schestowitz-TR re masks, we only use them when buying food I think (or few other shops), usually the ones with hardly anybody inside them, or at quiet hours [09:58] schestowitz " [09:58] schestowitz A profile of the brothers published in Forbes in 2021 claimed the brothers had "escaped" from Limerick, describing it as a "warzone" because of a gang feud and it was "the 'murder capital' of Europe".[21] It claimed "shootings, pipe bomb attacks, and stabbings" happened there every night.[21] It also claimed that "Some bad neighbourhoods are even walled off by a dirty graffitied 10-foot-high barrier, like the Berlin Wall".[21] [09:58] schestowitz The article received a lot of publicity online, causing a backlash.[21] Patrick tweeted "Not only mistaken about Limerick but the idea of overcoming anything is crazy. We are who we are because we grew up where we did".[21] John tweeted it was "daft".[21] Patrick O'Donovan called on the magazine and author to apologise to the people of Limerick "or the insult and hurt caused" by it.[21] He also tweeted "I am calling on them to come to [09:58] schestowitz Limerick where I will gladly set the record straight in respect of what our county and city has to offer as opposed to what your work of fiction depicts," and "Please let me know when suits to visit."[21] Niall Collins tweeted that the article was a "disgraceful description of Limerick, home to so many fine and decent people".[21] [09:58] schestowitz The article was removed from the website on 9 April 2021.[21] [09:58] schestowitz " [09:59] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stripe_(company) [09:59] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Stripe (company) - Wikipedia ● Dec 21 [10:06] Techrights-sec ok avoidance is good mitigation, but multiple methods reinforce each other [10:06] Techrights-sec back in a few hours [10:35] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:35] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 21 [11:00] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@hrtihjfuwwjea.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:54] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Dec 21 [12:31] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@7mdtygcjqhegu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:33] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:33] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:42] Techrights-sec back ● Dec 21 [13:01] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [13:01] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@t25x9hgy9xhrc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:07] *tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: bbl) [13:35] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[15:19] Techrights-sec Corey Doctorow, among many others, has also written a lot about the software [15:19] Techrights-sec in cars and other consumer devices. [15:20] Techrights-sec s/Corey/Cory/ [15:20] Techrights-sec https://boingboing.net/2011/12/27/the-coming-war-on-general-purp.html [15:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-boingboing.net | The Coming War on General Purpose Computation | Boing Boing [15:20] Techrights-sec https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Coming_War_on_General_Computation [15:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikisource.org | The Coming War on General Computation - Wikisource, the free online library [15:20] Techrights-sec from 28C3 in 2011 [15:20] Techrights-sec also, software showed up in public consciousness, though briefly: [15:20] Techrights-sec https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a15339250/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-vw-diesel-emissions-scandal/ [15:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.caranddriver.com | Everything You Need to Know about the VW Diesel Emissions Scandal [15:20] Techrights-sec https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a15339250/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-vw-diesel-emissions-scandal/ [15:21] schestowitz-TR are both links at thge bottom meant to be the same? 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[15:44] Techrights-sec https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/26/business/audi-vw-emissions-scandal.html [15:44] Techrights-sec fixed [15:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nytimes.com | A Few Dirty Tricks: Documents Show Audis Role in the Volkswagen Emissions Scandal - The New York Times [15:46] schestowitz-TR ty [15:46] Techrights-sec np [15:47] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [15:47] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@t25x9hgy9xhrc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 21 [16:26] *u-amarsh04 has quit (connection closed) [16:26] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Connection closed) [16:38] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:38] *activelow (~activelow@um5wnddpzwx7a.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:42] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [16:43] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@t25x9hgy9xhrc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 21 [17:03] schestowitz http://wikibin.org/articles/alex-graveley.html [17:03] schestowitz " [17:03] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-wikibin.org | Alex Graveley [17:03] schestowitz Alex Graveley (legal name Balabhadra Battacarya Graveley) is a professional software developer based in San Francisco. He is known in the free software community for his work on GNOME, and for creating the Tomboy, Gimmie, and Pyro Desktop projects. [17:03] schestowitz Graveley has worked for VMware Inc. as an engineer since 2004 on its Linux desktop products. He was technical lead on the VMware Workstation 6.0 software release in May, 2007. [17:03] schestowitz From 2000 to 2003, Graveley worked for Ximian Inc. on projects including Ximian Desktop, Novell Evolution, and the HTTP client library libsoup. [17:03] schestowitz He dropped out of high school in the 10th grade, and has spent considerable time traveling abroad in Brazil and Southeast Asia. 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