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| schestowitz-TR2 | restarting apache | Jan 22 02:01 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | I am starting to wonder if server connectivity hiccupts we've had for days now ( | Jan 22 02:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | DEC's fault, I believe) are to blame for all this | Jan 22 02:01 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | as this one was preceded by one such incident | Jan 22 02:01 |
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| *Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz!~roy@haii6za73zabc.irc at Tue Jun 1 20:22:10 2021 | Jan 22 02:10 | |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | new unproven theory: malformed packets caused by recent datacentre | Jan 22 02:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | switching etc. could be confusing apache | Jan 22 02:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | in due course I might be able to prove it | Jan 22 02:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | rianne checked the site while I was asleep | Jan 22 02:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | afaik, no issues for 4 hours | Jan 22 02:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the latest such issue coincided with a netwoprk issue | Jan 22 02:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | you can see the network issues in the IRC logs | Jan 22 02:51 |
| Techrights-sec | there was one at 23:10 UTC or there about | Jan 22 03:34 |
| Techrights-sec | that one required restarting httpd too | Jan 22 03:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | great, thanks for that. I was sleeping deeply at that time | Jan 22 03:34 |
| Techrights-sec | no problem | Jan 22 03:34 |
| Techrights-sec | no problem, I missed the last one because I was *very* slow to recognize the | Jan 22 03:36 |
| Techrights-sec | alert | Jan 22 03:36 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | judging by IRC JOINS and QUITS or timeouts, at 11-12 there was no network issue for IRC | Jan 22 03:36 |
| Techrights-sec | SSH worked but HTTP was unresponsive. I did not check the error logs. | Jan 22 03:37 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | today, being weekend and not food shopping day I plan to look into pi backups and try to figure out the apache issue also, as it seems to not just "go away"... | Jan 22 03:38 |
| Techrights-sec | The error logs were quiet for those few minutes I see. | Jan 22 03:42 |
| Techrights-sec | An update of TR would help, even if not a full OS migration. | Jan 22 03:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | re apache, I was hoping intervals would give a clue as to the cause, but | Jan 22 03:49 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so far no causality observed | Jan 22 03:49 |
| Techrights-sec | # httpd -v | Jan 22 03:53 |
| Techrights-sec | xxxxx :( | Jan 22 03:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Just remember that the stack is closely connected, so some version of wordpress g | Jan 22 03:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | oes with certain mariadb, php, apache or similar | Jan 22 03:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | which generally complicated past attempts to migrate this to another OS | Jan 22 03:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | if we move to another OS, maybe best to also change CMS at the same time | Jan 22 03:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or maybe not | Jan 22 03:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but with 15+ yeard of work, we must test and think carefully | Jan 22 03:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or else ... Internet rot | Jan 22 03:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | in schestowitz.com I still have pages from 2-+ years ago that are sttaic | Jan 22 03:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | those are very easy to 'maintain' | Jan 22 03:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | 20+ | Jan 22 03:57 |
| Techrights-sec | static is a very good option for many situations | Jan 22 03:58 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | i will publish andy's part 2 in one hour (5am) | Jan 22 04:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I envision all the wordpress stauff becoming static at some point | Jan 22 04:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and we might then try some other workflows | Jan 22 04:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | best thing is to phase them in, gradually | Jan 22 04:00 |
| Techrights-sec | ACK | Jan 22 04:00 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | zoobab is doing hard work on UPC matters | Jan 22 05:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | if you have contacts with a local MEPs, then there's nothing to | Jan 22 05:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | lose by picking up the phone and explaining to him/her the situation | Jan 22 05:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | at the very least they can join existing motions to impede the | Jan 22 05:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | thing | Jan 22 05:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Being German in the UK, there's less leverage I have over politicians | Jan 22 05:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | here and I have little in terms of contact. A former Pirate Party leader, | Jan 22 05:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | who lives near me, vanished into obscurity | Jan 22 05:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and judging by how things playd out politically, I very much doubt | Jan 22 05:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | he wishes to put his RT interviews in the CV | Jan 22 05:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | EPO and staff reps have been quiet so far this year | Jan 22 05:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Team UPC is all noise, without any media to call them out | Jan 22 05:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | on their total BS | Jan 22 05:26 |
| schestowitz | "Final Gazette dissolved via voluntary strike-off" https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12648511/filing-history | Jan 22 05:56 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk | E2EOPS PRESS LIMITED filing history - Find and update company information - GOV.UK | Jan 22 05:56 | |
| schestowitz | that explains what happened, you know who that is... | Jan 22 05:56 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | apache has, afaik, been running since around 1am | Jan 22 11:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | until you stepped in at some point | Jan 22 11:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I took a very long nap and this session was restarted for chat, not sure if | Jan 22 11:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I missed anything of importance | Jan 22 11:41 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | /s//until/unless/ | Jan 22 11:45 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes, apache was down as ~ 23:10 yesterday, ,the last time I restarted it. | Jan 22 11:52 |
| Techrights-sec | This window cleared when I restarted the system for key updates to take effect. | Jan 22 11:52 |
| Techrights-sec | Nothing of importance was missed, that was the only message so far. | Jan 22 11:52 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | excellent! So about 10-11 hours since last apache incident | Jan 22 11:53 |
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| Techrights-sec | yes, and I think my monitoring program here works ok finally | Jan 22 11:55 |
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| TechrightsBN | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBN running phIRCe v0.75 | Jan 22 13:12 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | very strange | Jan 22 13:32 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | connection refused | Jan 22 13:32 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | ah, ok, kaniin is rebooting | Jan 22 13:33 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | lately the network was a bit wonky | Jan 22 13:33 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | a reboot of networkk might help | Jan 22 13:33 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I now know why network was bad lately | Jan 22 13:33 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | hang on, will share here | Jan 22 13:33 |
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| Techrights-sec | not sure about cause | Jan 22 13:33 |
| Techrights-sec | # ps -p $(pgrep -d , httpd) -o user,pid,start,args| head -n 3 | Jan 22 13:33 |
| Techrights-sec | -bash: head: command not found | Jan 22 13:33 |
| Techrights-sec | -bash: /bin/pgrep: Input/output error | Jan 22 13:33 |
| Techrights-sec | -bash: /bin/ps: Input/output error | Jan 22 13:33 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jan 22 13:34 |
| schestowitz | [13:02] <schestowitz> hi, irc tuxmachines and techrights are rejecting connections, so not sure what the root cause is | Jan 22 13:35 |
| schestowitz | [13:03] <xyz> oh | Jan 22 13:35 |
| schestowitz | [13:03] <xyz> fuck | Jan 22 13:35 |
| schestowitz | [13:03] <xyz> i forgot to pause the VMs when i rebooted the internal switch | Jan 22 13:35 |
| schestowitz | [13:03] <xyz> this is why i should wait to do things until i've had my coffee | Jan 22 13:35 |
| schestowitz | [13:03] <xyz> rebooted | Jan 22 13:35 |
| schestowitz | [13:05] <schestowitz> thanks, I'll try to restore things when ssh reopens | Jan 22 13:35 |
| schestowitz | [13:12] <xyz> cool | Jan 22 13:35 |
| schestowitz | [13:12] <xyz> finally fixed the issue where the old centos7 container does not wanna boot without being handheld | Jan 22 13:35 |
| schestowitz | [13:16] <schestowitz> excellent, I did notice some network hiccups lately, so maybe a work on the switch can change that | Jan 22 13:35 |
| schestowitz | [13:16] <xyz> oh, that was because of xxxxxx CALTRANS | Jan 22 13:35 |
| schestowitz | [13:17] <xyz> they nicked our fiber recently, and so half of our ring is collapsed | Jan 22 13:35 |
| schestowitz | [13:17] <xyz> something something fiber seeking backhoe meme | Jan 22 13:35 |
| schestowitz | [13:17] <schestowitz> oh, I see, so at least it's a known issue with cause | Jan 22 13:35 |
| schestowitz | [13:19] <xyz> the restart was because i needed to license a 100g port | Jan 22 13:35 |
| schestowitz | [13:20] <xyz> for the new NAS box | Jan 22 13:35 |
| schestowitz | [13:20] <xyz> yes, *license* | Jan 22 13:35 |
| schestowitz | [13:20] <schestowitz> cash cows | Jan 22 13:35 |
| schestowitz | [13:20] <schestowitz> artificial scarcity | Jan 22 13:35 |
| schestowitz | [13:20] <xyz> xxxx just puts a shitload of 100g ports on a switch now and makes you pay for them as you need them | Jan 22 13:35 |
| schestowitz | [13:20] <xyz> i have like 6 of them on this switch | Jan 22 13:36 |
| schestowitz | [13:20] <xyz> only 2 are licensed now | Jan 22 13:36 |
| schestowitz | [13:21] <xyz> and by "license" i mean "use a keygen" | Jan 22 13:36 |
| schestowitz | [13:21] <xyz> as if i am paying xxxxxx for a fucking port i already own | Jan 22 13:36 |
| schestowitz | [13:21] <schestowitz> like john deeere tractors | Jan 22 13:36 |
| schestowitz | [13:22] <xyz> but, you did not hear xxxxxxxxx :) | Jan 22 13:36 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | ok to publish part 3 of farnell tonight or too fast/early? | Jan 22 14:41 |
| Techrights-sec | They're really good but one per day at most, would be my recommendation. | Jan 22 14:41 |
| Techrights-sec | It's ok to buffer. | Jan 22 14:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | ack | Jan 22 14:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I will catch up with things, do you intend to look into logging systemd unit or s | Jan 22 14:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | hould i have a poke iunstead? | Jan 22 14:42 |
| Techrights-sec | I can look but have to set up something here to experiment with. | Jan 22 14:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the past few days everything ran OK, right now ipfs hoards upload capacity, but I am OK with it if that improves access to CIDs | Jan 22 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so I think soon I will make an image/copy of the microSD card, in case another recovery becomes necessary | Jan 22 14:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we might also order another pi for ipsec, but I need to think how else it would be used | Jan 22 14:44 |
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| Techrights-sec | They're versatile, as you see, and all-around general purpose computers even | Jan 22 14:48 |
| Techrights-sec | if not monstrously overpowered. The 4B is probably the most useful model for | Jan 22 14:48 |
| Techrights-sec | that, I'm not sure of availability but it should be far easier to get one within | Jan 22 14:48 |
| Techrights-sec | the UK than in Europe. | Jan 22 14:48 |
| Techrights-sec | ^s/Europe/EU/ | Jan 22 14:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I have put in drafts the upcoming (stull uploading video) article and tomorr's fi | Jan 22 14:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | nale, in case you want to read "ahead" and maybe report typos or factual mistkaes | Jan 22 14:51 |
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| Techrights-sec | It occurs to me that if agate runs with --log-ip added, then systemd | Jan 22 15:38 |
| Techrights-sec | will save the hostnames of visitors in the system logs and it will be | Jan 22 15:38 |
| Techrights-sec | very difficult to purge them. That is not what we want I think, so the | Jan 22 15:38 |
| Techrights-sec | tcpdump approach will probably have to be used since it allows more ephemeral | Jan 22 15:38 |
| Techrights-sec | data. | Jan 22 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | whilst at it, we might as well anonymise all the data completely, though that helped count unique IPs etc. | Jan 22 15:38 |
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| Techrights-sec | The count could be kept in memory and lost when the process ends, and only peridi | Jan 22 15:51 |
| Techrights-sec | cally write to the file. That would require a little rearrangment of the | Jan 22 15:51 |
| Techrights-sec | work flow from what it is now. | Jan 22 15:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we can give that a go as that would be an 'upgrade' of sorts, it all started quick and dirty, but still a decent way for me to know what goes on in the capsule. the past few days I just threw junk lines at it to prevent the program complaining, so we generally don't know anything about access... though we know it was available | Jan 22 15:52 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | btw, no apache issues sincee 1am... fingers crosed | Jan 22 15:53 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | *crossed | Jan 22 15:53 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Jan 22 16:03 |
| Techrights-sec | I'll get the current workflow going first. | Jan 22 16:03 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | excellent, thank you | Jan 22 16:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I will do my best to keep publishing things at the pacee we once had | Jan 22 16:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | about 10 per day | Jan 22 16:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | tomorrow I have to do lots of responding to UPPC lies | Jan 22 16:04 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes UPC rests only on lies. | Jan 22 16:05 |
| Techrights-sec | well maybe also some law breaking too, but mostly lies. | Jan 22 16:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the lies are designed to make the law-breaking seem OK | Jan 22 16:05 |
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| Techrights-sec | still working on solving the buffering proble with the shell redirections | Jan 22 16:21 |
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| Techrights-sec | check ~gemini/bin/agate-tcpdump-logger.s* | Jan 22 17:28 |
| Techrights-sec | the one goes in /etc/systemd/system/ and the other in /usr/local/sbin/ | Jan 22 17:28 |
| Techrights-sec | also, ~/bin/agate-3.2.1 looks like it is not needed. It takes up a lot of | Jan 22 17:28 |
| Techrights-sec | space. Ok to delete it? | Jan 22 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | i am going to look into installing [sic] the new files. if the agate version above is an old binary I suppose it's somewhere "on the Web" and we don't need a copy of it | Jan 22 17:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | i forgot to "ota"... I was recording 30+ mins on UPC and got a little distracted by ytallk | Jan 22 17:30 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | --- | Jan 22 17:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it looks like you have aced it | Jan 22 17:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | i think you have privs to check status | Jan 22 17:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | i am testing to see what the anoned file looks like within the context of the ddo | Jan 22 17:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | s protection shell script | Jan 22 17:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | ok, i see now | Jan 22 17:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it lists everything as the ip address of the pi, instead of requestor's ip | Jan 22 17:41 |
| Techrights-sec | ok | Jan 22 17:43 |
| Techrights-sec | ack, will check | Jan 22 17:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but I'm super-happy knowing that it's likely the "export" script which runs at midnight might in fact get something to show, if it does not already | Jan 22 17:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I treated the stats page as not important as we dealt with more urgent thing | Jan 22 17:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | *things | Jan 22 17:44 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | apachtop says server has done avg of 6mb/sec since the reboot | Jan 22 17:45 |
| Techrights-sec | yep wrong column | Jan 22 17:45 |
| Techrights-sec | fixing... | Jan 22 17:45 |
| Techrights-sec | progress, but need to improve stopping the service | Jan 22 17:57 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | thanks, it already looks encouraging, as if there are about 10,000 page requests a day in gemini after a week of blindness. | Jan 22 17:57 |
| Techrights-sec | ok it stops cleanly now too | Jan 22 18:04 |
| Techrights-sec | updated files in ~gemini/bin | Jan 22 18:04 |
| Techrights-sec | systemctl daemon-reload after updating the unit file before restarting the | Jan 22 18:04 |
| Techrights-sec | service | Jan 22 18:04 |
| Techrights-sec | systemd is a real PITA | Jan 22 18:04 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | depl;ying , so to speak... | Jan 22 18:06 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | now it works correctly, i have it on tail -f | Jan 22 18:06 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | watching it interqactively like this helps you appreciate how much it is being ac | Jan 22 18:06 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | cessed | Jan 22 18:06 |
| Techrights-sec | the old one will leave an unattended tcpdump process running, | Jan 22 18:07 |
| Techrights-sec | it needs to be killed manually: | Jan 22 18:07 |
| Techrights-sec | pgrep -o tcpdump | Jan 22 18:07 |
| Techrights-sec | ^pkill | Jan 22 18:07 |
| Techrights-sec | if it is working correctly, should the go into Git? | Jan 22 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | yes, and I've just killed the spare process | Jan 22 18:09 |
| Techrights-sec | if it is working then the old ones can be turned off and deleted | Jan 22 18:21 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I've not been keeping track of the names much, I saw there's an alias, but I agree to reduce confusion it helps to remove stale ones. we can safely assume whatever is in git is "latest" | Jan 22 18:22 |
| Techrights-sec | the old ones can be removed from Git to now | Jan 22 18:24 |
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| Techrights-sec | /etc/systemd/system/agate-tcpdumper.service can probably be disabled and | Jan 22 19:33 |
| Techrights-sec | removed | Jan 22 19:33 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | stopped and siabled now | Jan 22 19:34 |
| Techrights-sec | thanks | Jan 22 19:34 |
| Techrights-sec | then remove /etc/systemd/system/agate-tcpdumper.service too and there will be | Jan 22 19:40 |
| Techrights-sec | less confusion in the future | Jan 22 19:40 |
| Techrights-sec | The term "Alternative Facts" is a propaganda term used in place of what they | Jan 22 19:46 |
| Techrights-sec | really are : fantasy or lies | Jan 22 19:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | yes, I've just deleted the file from the services, I guess it's still somewhere, but not that it should caused confusion... it has been almost a dat a day without apahe issues, so I will take a nap while the video is being encoded | Jan 22 19:47 |
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