●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 ●● ● Mar 22 [00:08] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [00:08] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@hngiv8sdpiaf2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:16] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [00:16] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [00:16] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [00:16] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@hngiv8sdpiaf2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Mar 22 [02:07] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Connection closed) [02:07] *u-amarsh04 has quit (connection closed) ● Mar 22 [03:49] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:50] *activelow (~activelow@bubrbiib5rixg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Mar 22 [06:01] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Mar 22 [09:42] schestowitz-TR quick note to self: [09:42] schestowitz-TR one upside of working on documents over the nwtwork is, [09:42] schestowitz-TR you effectively keep two copies [09:42] schestowitz-TR as in the case of kate, [09:42] schestowitz-TR if the remote copy/server has issues, I can save locally [09:42] schestowitz-TR and if there is damage locally [09:42] schestowitz-TR the copy is remote anyway [09:42] schestowitz-TR so in effect I already have a two-side redundancy for important documents and working [09:42] schestowitz-TR files, which is what I did this morning [09:42] schestowitz-TR the main pain will be thunbderbird [09:56] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@6ebqzz9fgde9y.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Mar 22 [10:51] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Mar 22 [11:04] schestowitz-TR working my way through 5 epo docs [11:04] schestowitz-TR how important do you think it is to throw news picks into the social irc channel? [11:04] schestowitz-TR I still do it on occasions, but daily links matter a lot more [11:04] schestowitz-TR so I've shaved off a lot of time that way [11:07] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.eu/DeathSkry/status/1506186212142370817#m [11:07] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.eu | Deathskry (@DeathSkry): "techrights.org/2010/04/11/xb" | nitter [11:23] Techrights-sec ack [11:23] Techrights-sec It depends on the topic of the links themselves. Maybe some should go there [11:23] Techrights-sec on occasion. [11:23] Techrights-sec It is important to keep -social active so as to be able to keep the main [11:23] Techrights-sec channel on topic [11:23] schestowitz-TR the main channel has been a lotr more active lately [11:23] schestowitz-TR so oftentimes I don't keep an eye on it, except layer in passing [11:23] schestowitz-TR *later [11:34] Techrights-sec Maybe just check on it occassionally when you hppen to post a link there? [11:35] schestowitz-TR I try to focus mainly on analysing and writing [11:35] schestowitz-TR EPO is number 1 numbeer 2 and numbe3 priority at the moment [11:35] schestowitz-TR I also managed to use a time windsows in the small hours to migrate all [11:35] schestowitz-TR essential files to a disk that I trust [11:35] schestowitz-TR which makes me feel very happy and confident [11:37] Techrights-sec excellent [11:37] Techrights-sec I hope none were silently corrupted while on the old drive [11:37] schestowitz-TR I've just checked netslit.de [11:37] schestowitz-TR it says average people (#) on the irc network is 66 [11:37] schestowitz-TR peakingn at 77 [11:37] schestowitz-TR I've just checked netslit.de [11:37] schestowitz-TR it says average people (#) on the irc network is 66 [11:37] schestowitz-TR peakingn at 77 [11:37] Techrights-sec For TR? [11:39] schestowitz-TR yes, the whole network [11:39] schestowitz-TR regarding data loss, for about a month already, maybe even 2 months [11:39] schestowitz-TR since we installed debian 11 for gemini [11:39] schestowitz-TR I've seen those errors and successful correction [11:39] schestowitz-TR I assume it reattempts the wroites and uses some other slots [11:39] schestowitz-TR I've not seen evidence of data corruption [11:39] schestowitz-TR such as application crashes( binary) or corrupt files being opened [11:42] schestowitz-TR tbh, i've quite enjoyed seeing the bonfire or whatever that is video hosting services [11:42] schestowitz-TR odysee might have a few years left in it [11:42] schestowitz-TR it's cheaper to operate [11:42] schestowitz-TR fsf moved from hosting its own with mediagoblin [11:42] schestowitz-TR they now use peertube [11:54] Techrights-sec obviously self-hosting is best but if they outsource, it should only be to a [11:54] Techrights-sec service that 1) is consistent with software freedom and 2) actually saves both [11:54] Techrights-sec effort and money [11:55] schestowitz-TR the pseudo 'free' hosting might be OK... for disposable stuff. But many people are made to convince themselves that losing their work, data etc. is not a big dead anyway, as they were not in control of the decision on this matter ● Mar 22 [12:19] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:21] Techrights-sec I'm not sure there are really any legitimate use-cases for the pseudofree [12:21] Techrights-sec services, especially if the goal is to be promoting freedom. I was thinking [12:21] Techrights-sec more about outsourced services which cost money, but gain that would depend [12:21] Techrights-sec on them actually saving both time, effort, and money in contrast to self-hosting [12:21] Techrights-sec In practice, I expecti such a situation would be hard to impossible to find. [12:22] schestowitz-TR maybe we can articulate these things to make an article, not sure... [12:22] schestowitz-TR can you take a look at the OSI draft to say if it's in good taste? [12:36] *wallacer has quit (connection closed) [12:36] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:37] Techrights-sec looking [12:37] Techrights-sec more context is needed about the change of priorities / agendas that the new [12:37] Techrights-sec board members will usher in [12:37] Techrights-sec A small amount of overlap between articles doesn't hurt. [12:37] schestowitz-TR ok [12:37] schestowitz-TR I will add links ● Mar 22 [13:01] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [13:01] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@hngiv8sdpiaf2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:30] Techrights-sec Links are best when wrapped in a sentence or two, so that there is meaning enough for people to see the context and know [13:30] Techrights-sec what they will get when / if they click [13:30] Techrights-sec on a link. THere are too many links on any given page for people to click them [13:30] Techrights-sec randomly, especially on a CMS. [13:32] schestowitz-TR draft [13:32] schestowitz-TR The brevity of posts this week is mostly duie to lack of time [13:32] schestowitz-TR lots of epo material [13:32] schestowitz-TR I may get back to the OSI thing later on, with a lot more text [13:32] schestowitz-TR notice that none of the media ever covers these [13:32] schestowitz-TR things anymore [13:32] schestowitz-TR 15 years ago you would expect many news sites [13:32] schestowitz-TR to say something [13:32] schestowitz-TR draft [13:32] schestowitz-TR The brevity of posts this week is mostly duie to lack of time [13:32] schestowitz-TR lots of epo material [13:32] schestowitz-TR I may get back to the OSI thing later on, with a lot more text [13:32] schestowitz-TR notice that none of the media ever covers these [13:32] schestowitz-TR things anymore [13:32] schestowitz-TR 15 years ago you would expect many news sites [13:32] schestowitz-TR to say something [13:38] Techrights-sec yes, it is newsworthy but the sites don't cover much of anything newsworthy [13:38] Techrights-sec any more just what they are sponsored to cover. :/ [13:38] schestowitz-TR physical newspaper and magazines barely survived. Revenue streams like classifieds gone, there's not this bubble of "targeted advertising" [13:39] schestowitz-TR and since the bubble burst some years ago [13:39] schestowitz-TR (sites unable to convert visitors into sufficient money) [13:39] schestowitz-TR the activity of journalism mostly stopped [13:39] schestowitz-TR so the gap gets filled with PR agencies and social control media [13:40] schestowitz-TR which are not necessarily two different things ● Mar 22 [14:55] Techrights-sec physical newspapers are more or less gone, at this point. [14:55] Techrights-sec Most small, independent ones have been bought out and either shut down or [14:55] Techrights-sec gutted and devoid of actual local news and instead used as a medium for [14:55] Techrights-sec promulgating carious corporate or political agendas within specific geographic [14:55] Techrights-sec areas. ● Mar 22 [15:47] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:48] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Connection closed) [15:48] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@ktzbuxc7m4sqn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Mar 22 [16:05] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:08] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Mar 22 [19:53] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@fsz99s6zbtymn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:54] Techrights-sec misinformation == by accident; disinformation == spread on purpose [19:54] schestowitz-TR ota [19:54] schestowitz-TR United Kingdom: COVID-19 Patients in Hospital Highest Number in a Month, Deaths Highest in 1.5 Months, and More Than Hal [19:54] schestowitz-TR f a Million Infected Per Week http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/22/united-kingdom-covid/ [19:54] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive United Kingdom: COVID-19 Patients in Hospital Highest Number in a Month, Deaths Highest in 1.5 Months, and More Than Half a Million Infected Per Week [19:54] schestowitz-TR draft [19:58] schestowitz-TR those that are spreading FUD are probably knowingly spreading disinformation [19:58] schestowitz-TR those falling for the FUD are probably unknowingly spreading misinformation [19:58] Techrights-sec those that are spreading FUD are probably knowingly spreading disinformation [19:58] Techrights-sec those falling for the FUD are probably unknowingly spreading misinformation ● Mar 22 [20:01] schestowitz-TR I thogut my text made that point clear, inter alia [20:01] schestowitz-TR but let me add s aummary to clarify from the outset ● Mar 22 [21:31] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:31] *activelow (~activelow@wruyhdcv8sj3g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [21:33] *techrights_guest|83 (~519aa912@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [21:38] *hourram (~hourram@qj7n4mscqi93y.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [21:51] *techrights_guest|83 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [21:52] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [21:58] *hourram has quit (Quit: Leaving)