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*Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-socialApr 22 05:13
*Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz!~roy@haii6za73zabc.irc at Tue Jun 1 20:22:10 2021Apr 22 05:13
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schestowitz[TR2]> Hi Roy,Apr 22 08:05
schestowitz[TR2]> Apr 22 08:05
schestowitz[TR2]> This week's blog post looks at the roots of attacks on education toApr 22 08:05
schestowitz[TR2]> keep people stupid and compliant around digital technology.Apr 22 08:05
schestowitz[TR2]> Apr 22 08:05
schestowitz[TR2]> https://cybershow.uk/blog/posts/miscalculationApr 22 08:05
schestowitz[TR2]> Apr 22 08:05
schestowitz[TR2]> One way cybersecurity got so bad is through declining education.  ManyApr 22 08:05
schestowitz[TR2]> people understand the risks of insecure software, but don't realiseApr 22 08:05
schestowitz[TR2]> popular brands like Microsoft and Google are dangerous, becauseApr 22 08:05
schestowitz[TR2]> educators are too timid or confused to tell them.Apr 22 08:05
schestowitz[TR2]> Apr 22 08:05
schestowitz[TR2]> Finally some are catching on... an ex-White House cyber policyApr 22 08:05
schestowitz[TR2]> director now says that "Microsoft is a national security threat".Apr 22 08:05
schestowitz[TR2]> Apr 22 08:05
schestowitz[TR2]> https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/21/microsoft_national_security_risk/Apr 22 08:05
schestowitz[TR2]> Apr 22 08:05
schestowitz[TR2]> School teacher should be telling this to children, not encouragingApr 22 08:05
schestowitz[TR2]> them to use products from these companies.Apr 22 08:05
schestowitz[TR2]it's own future > its own futureApr 22 08:05
schestowitz[TR2]http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/22/An_unfortunate_miscalculation_of_capital.shtmlApr 22 08:05
schestowitz[TR2]Can I have your permission to reprint in techrights with attribution and link tom  original? It's spot on and on-topic.Apr 22 08:05
schestowitz[TR2]I saw the El Reg article last night. It did not go far enough.Apr 22 08:05
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schestowitz[TR2]> Morning Roy,Apr 22 11:18
schestowitz[TR2]> Apr 22 11:18
schestowitz[TR2]> Yes I'm happy if you do a full reprint if in its entirety - it's a bitApr 22 11:18
schestowitz[TR2]> lengthy but I have no time to edit it down right now, cheers!Apr 22 11:18
schestowitz[TR2]> Apr 22 11:18
schestowitz[TR2]> all good wishes,Apr 22 11:18
schestowitz[TR2]Thanks for quickly granting permission.Apr 22 11:18
schestowitz[TR2]Before I read the later message I had reproduced it with the following corrections:Apr 22 11:18
schestowitz[TR2]it's -> its inApr 22 11:18
schestowitz[TR2]away it's own futureApr 22 11:18
schestowitz[TR2]it's democratising influenceApr 22 11:18
schestowitz[TR2]The West has had it's own much slower-burning purgeApr 22 11:18
schestowitz[TR2]it's direction is importantApr 22 11:18
schestowitz[TR2]"are relegated to faults,"  - full stop?Apr 22 11:18
schestowitz[TR2]Or is that by intention. left as is.Apr 22 11:18
schestowitz[TR2]> Roy, Ive made a few small corrections since this morning.Apr 22 11:19
schestowitz[TR2]> Apr 22 11:19
schestowitz[TR2]> Lots of apostrophe pedantry from the internet :)Apr 22 11:19
schestowitz[TR2]> Apr 22 11:19
schestowitz[TR2]> Helen noted it would be*great*  if you can end on a link to ourApr 22 11:19
schestowitz[TR2]> Boudica Cybersecurity, and maybe say that more "joined-up thinking" isApr 22 11:19
schestowitz[TR2]> the ethos of our school.Apr 22 11:19
schestowitz[TR2]> Apr 22 11:19
schestowitz[TR2]> many thanksApr 22 11:19
schestowitz[TR2]Yes, I can still edit the text or add bits of HTML, I will check email again later today ;-)Apr 22 11:19
schestowitz[TR2]>> Finally some are catching on... an ex-White House cyber policyApr 22 11:23
schestowitz[TR2]>> director now says that "Microsoft is a national security threat".Apr 22 11:23
schestowitz[TR2]> Apr 22 11:23
schestowitz[TR2]> We've been here before.  There are, somewhere in the older Links, Apr 22 11:23
schestowitz[TR2]> articles from decades past calling out m$ as a a national security Apr 22 11:23
schestowitz[TR2]> threat.  It is essential to find those and move the counter forward Apr 22 11:23
schestowitz[TR2]> rather than starting at zero again.Apr 22 11:23
schestowitz[TR2]> Apr 22 11:23
schestowitz[TR2]> MSFT?  Double-tap to be sure.Apr 22 11:23
schestowitz[TR2]http://techrights.org/o/2021/07/19/microsoft-national-security/Apr 22 11:23
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schestowitz[TR2]Here is a recent one, but which only focuses on the monoculture not the shoddy design and piss poor implementation:Apr 22 11:24
schestowitz[TR2]https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/files/documents/cyber/IEEE%20-%20IT%20Monoculture.pdfApr 22 11:24
schestowitz[TR2]It also fails to call out the inherently insecure nature of proprietary software.Apr 22 11:24
schestowitz[TR2]Still looking.  This is not it:Apr 22 11:24
schestowitz[TR2]https://www.networkworld.com/article/895510/software-retiring-exec-tells-microsoft-to-embrace-open-source.htmlApr 22 11:24
schestowitz[TR2]There was some colonel or similar, IIRC, in the late 1990s which called out m$ insecurity as a threat to national security.Apr 22 11:24
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schestowitz[TR2]https://www.strassmann.com/pubs/computerworld/ms-security.shtmlApr 22 11:25
schestowitz[TR2]"Microsoft: A U.S. Security Threat" by Paul A. StrassmannApr 22 11:25
schestowitz[TR2]originally from /Computerworld/ published November 30, 1998Apr 22 11:25
schestowitz[TR2]can't find the original atm Apr 22 11:25
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schestowitz[TR2]> Please feel free to make minor punctuation or grammar corrections I'veApr 22 19:20
schestowitz[TR2]> missed Roy.Apr 22 19:20
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