IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: Saturday, May 22, 2021

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x https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/21/microsoft-ceo-nadella-says-power-in-the-workplace-is-not-to-be-abused.html

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schestowitz

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cnbc.com | Microsoft CEO Nadella says power in the workplace is not to be abused

schestowitz

# more distractions

x https://boingboing.net/2021/05/21/royal-dramas-and-bill-gates-divorce-in-this-weeks-dubious-tabloids.html

schestowitz

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-boingboing.net | Royal dramas and Bill Gates' divorce in this week's dubious tabloids | Boing Boing

https://nitter.cc/shadowcat_mst/status/1396146430847430660#m

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MinceR

migrating from billsez to nadellasez? :>

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.cc | Matt S "Quad Erat Dumbasstrandum" Trout (@shadowcat_mst): "Incidentally, http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/freenode-misinformation-or-misunderstandings/ (the same site Andrew Lee's "my side of the story" PDF was posted on) says > A lot of us are watching the situation and monitoring statements from Freenode (now under management more closely controlled by PIA) You might want to have a word." | nitter

https://nitter.cc/andyoval/status/1396100512819433475#m

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.cc | Andy Thomas 🌸 (@andyoval): "techrights.org/category/bill…" | nitter

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitchute

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May 22 20:12

Techrights-sec

is TM under a mild DDoS?

May 22 20:13

Techrights-sec

also, on TR /wiki/index.php is getting hammered

May 22 20:13

schestowitz

thanks, yes, we did seem to have had some surges, but it's under control thankfully

May 22 20:14

schestowitz

All about TR: https://www.bitchute.com/video/M0n7OPbaXk6d/

May 22 20:44

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.bitchute.com | CHILD SEX COVERUPS - KEEP HAPPENING NEAR BILL GATES

May 22 20:44

Techrights-sec

May 22 20:45

Techrights-sec

blocked by javascript ...

May 22 20:45

Techrights-sec

isn't that site many far-right and whackos?

May 22 20:46

schestowitz

I didn't say it was good

May 22 20:46

Techrights-sec

wikipedia does not have a favorable entry for it:

May 22 20:47

Techrights-sec

May 22 20:47

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | BitChute - Wikipedia

May 22 20:47

schestowitz

I know, it seems bad from the get-go, but I watch it right now and it's not so unreasonable and crackly (like the comments are)

May 22 20:48

Techrights-sec

Ok, good.

May 22 20:49

Techrights-sec

Bitchute is apparently blocked in links on Twitter, so that is actually a plus

May 22 20:49

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in its favor

May 22 20:49

Techrights-sec

But in general it is more than a bit dodgy

May 22 20:50

schestowitz

it goes a little overboard now (I watch it)

May 22 20:50

Techrights-sec

Remember opponents of Software Freedom and their controlling Interests have

May 22 20:51

Techrights-sec

no qualms about using strawman fallacies.

May 22 20:51

schestowitz

I would not endorse such a link, but I want to see if he has anything new to add (nothing so far)

Techrights-sec

Speaking of which, how much overlap is between the list of signatories

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of the anti-RMS GitHub letter and the attempted take over of Freenode?

schestowitz

the overlap is limited, not worth making a fuss about

Techrights-sec

Ok. I had kind of expected more overlap. It's looking a bit more deceptive

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than the initial noise tried to make it look. Lee has been the target of

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the mob there.

schestowitz

even kaniini and others in that camp admitted he was likely well-meaning

schestowitz

to me, privately

https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/anyone-following-the-freenode-drama-4175695313/

Techrights-sec

Yes, I'm getting that impression but I am very far removed from IRC and

May 22 20:56

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especially Freenode.

May 22 20:56

MinceR

the road to hell is paved with good intentions

May 22 20:59

schestowitz

LOL, now he goes a little bonkers in the video... and interjects crap

May 22 21:00

Techrights-sec

privately is ok, but those in the know need to get their knowledge out

May 22 21:00

Techrights-sec

in the public to squelch the misinformation + disnformation flying around

May 22 21:00

Techrights-sec

it's only half funny. there are people that believe what they get

May 22 21:02

Techrights-sec

from Bitchute. Same for Twitter...

May 22 21:02

schestowitz

Now it's like 95% k00ky. It started with facts and then goes crazy. LOL!

May 22 21:05

Techrights-sec

That's a common trajectory. They start with something factual, to borrow

May 22 21:06

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legitimacy, and then quickly wander off into weirdness and stupidity.

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May 22 21:07

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linuxquestions.org | Anyone following the Freenode drama?

May 22 21:07

schestowitz

It's very long. What is the bottom line there?

May 22 21:08

Techrights-sec

The rambling is part of the tactic. I'm not sure of the psychological term

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but the idea is to overwhelm people with bullshit so that then they

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accept the overflow as gospel.

schestowitz

Yes, I heard about this a decade back

Techrights-sec

In otherwords, there may be no point to the video.

schestowitz

it did not teach me anything, except that those k00ks are dangerous

May 22 21:10

schestowitz

but I already knew that. Sometone in Disapora alerted me about it moments ago.

May 22 21:10

Techrights-sec

yes, very much so

May 22 21:11

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association is to be eschewed

May 22 21:11

Techrights-sec

some of it is that they wish certain topics to be associated with k00ks

schestowitz

this is why it's better to avoid open comments section there and guard IRC

schestowitz

Being linked to isn't something we can control

schestowitz

and the proximity is a one-sided thing

Techrights-sec

yes, there is no control over who links, that is one of the aspects with

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a net benefit. But at the same time, it would be very harmful to both

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the topics at hand and the messengers relaying those topics to

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be thought of in the same anything as the k00ks

Techrights-sec

Odysee is much better and Robertson had a recent video, you've already seen:

Techrights-sec

https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/stallman-isn't-out-of-touch-with:4

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He starts out mentioning TR

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and then continues with facts and is not a k00k

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | Stallman ISN'T OUT OF TOUCH With Technology!

schestowitz

he reads us

May 22 21:19

Techrights-sec

There's no real tech news so a lot of people are trying to subsitute

May 22 21:20

Techrights-sec

social control media in its place and instead getting fed a

May 22 21:20

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steady diet of disinformation and occasional misinformation.

May 22 21:20

Techrights-sec

Anyone, especially politicians, past or present, who think

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they are getting real information from social control media are very

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deluded and the decisions they make from those delusions are dangerous

schestowitz

you links to 2 lunduke video. One I will comment on in my next article. The other is his pure BS misogynist BS one might say, basing it on Twitter 'poll' (yes, third time he lies about quitting twitter)

Techrights-sec

yep

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Along those lines, I should force myself to sit through this one:

https://odysee.com/@LBRYFoundationPodcast:f/LFCP-Livecast-2021-05-21-Ep-48-With-Bryan-Lunduke:c

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but it seemed very poor and I turned it off. However it may

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be important to find out what their positions are there at LBRY

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | LFCP Livecast - 2021-05-21 - Ep 48 - With Bryan Lunduke

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I don't have much patience for windows boosters though.

schestowitz

do you want to double-check my next article?

Techrights-sec

twitter and fb are intentionally addictive

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they, and other social control media, have a presence outside the US

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and are thus a threat globally to democracy and freedom

Techrights-sec

I can take a look but in some hours

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I am well overdue for signing off for a bit

schestowitz

OK, you can amend or report mistakes after I publish

schestowitz

I read carefully to avoid any slipping in (except social control media crap, I don't waste more time on that than I need to)

May 22 21:30

Techrights-sec

I took a quick look. It is important to mention, as you have, the ZDNet and

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TechRepublic links. Also, in general, the ownership of the majority

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of 'news' by a very small and limited number of owners.

Techrights-sec

It's often a layer or two deep but essential to point out.

Techrights-sec

Most of what poses as journalism these days is 'say for pay'

Techrights-sec

Most of the rest is beholden to major donors or board members.

Techrights-sec

You often mention NPR and BBC being effectively partially owned by Gates,

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for example.

schestowitz

among many others, but they are prominent and pesky

https://twitter.com/privacylawGER/status/1396028136295444481

Techrights-sec

signing off in about 5 minutes unless there is something else

May 22 21:35

schestowitz

I'm on shift 1-9am

May 22 21:35

Techrights-sec

see you on the other side

May 22 21:36

schestowitz

May 22 22:41

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@privacylawGER: "#EPO and #Microsoft Collude to Break the Law — Part I (Intro): A Fresh Data Protection Scandal Brewing at the EPO?… https://t.co/tg8q3vdbL5

May 22 22:41

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@privacylawGER: "#EPO and #Microsoft Collude to Break the Law — Part I (Intro): A Fresh Data Protection Scandal Brewing at the EPO?… https://t.co/tg8q3vdbL5

May 22 22:41

schestowitz

schestowitz

"#EPO and #Microsoft Collude to Break the Law — Part I (Intro): A Fresh Data Protection Scandal Brewing at the EPO?" via #Techrights: start of a multipart series of articles: http://techrights.org/2021/03/11/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-1/

schestowitz

. FYI @Ra_Koellner

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law — Part I (Intro): A Fresh Data Protection Scandal Brewing at the EPO? | Techrights

schestowitz

@ckroesch

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@peterhense

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https://twitter.com/jabozoff/status/1395934606952652804

schestowitz

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jabozoff: @observers1984 @ArtValley818_ ummmm.... https://t.co/gwmbip8DRL

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | The Death of Gary Kildall Remains a Mystery to This Date | Techrights

https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1396081639281864706

schestowitz

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: potentially big: talking about money gets people's attention... #climatecrisis https://t.co/1KDKcIRlBP

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #RollingStone #Environment ☞ #Biden Signs Executive Order to Examine Financial Impact of #ClimateChange https://t.co/GMJpZOMEa7

https://twitter.com/TalentCoop/status/1396068618224427010

schestowitz

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TalentCoop: So wrong for consumers, environment.... So right for profit and shareholders. Another area of 'too much control's i… https://t.co/2Ionwjheej

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TalentCoop: So wrong for consumers, environment.... So right for profit and shareholders. Another area of 'too much control's i… https://t.co/2Ionwjheej

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So wrong for consumers, environment....

schestowitz

So right for profit and shareholders.

schestowitz

Another area of 'too much control's in the hands of a few tech giants ?

schestowitz

https://twitter.com/ubuntourist/status/1396059368299368458

schestowitz

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@ubuntourist: Why we need #OpenSourceHardware #OpenSource @hackaday @HacDC #hackerspaces @NationOfMakers @oshwassociation https://t.co/y2Y3Rqtfxu

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #Bloomberg # ☞ #Microsoft and #Apple Wage War on Gadget Right-to-Repair Laws https://t.co/Qy9u0Gu7gh

https://twitter.com/ubuntourist/status/1396059319087603715

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@ubuntourist: Why we need #OpenSourceHardware #OpenSource @hackaday @HacDC #hackerspaces @NationOfMakers @oshwassociation https://t.co/4ohlA1Zi5N

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #MacRumors # ☞ Apple's Efforts to Block 'Right to Repair' Laws Highlighted in New Report https://t.co/gxGnhHmOW9

https://twitter.com/AmbyR00/status/1396029872166813697

schestowitz

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