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acer-boxVia @schestowitz Greta #Thunberg ne souhaite pas passer pour une"super-heros"—au lieu de ça, elle appelle à plus d'actions concrètes, demandant aux législateurs d'écouter les scientifiques.Sep 22 05:22
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.newsweek.com | Greta Thunberg Tells Congress: 'We Don't Want to Be Heard, We Want the Science to Be Heard'⁠—Gets ApplauseSep 22 05:22
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acer-box"En effet pas un héros mais plutôt un héraut."Sep 22 05:23
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acer-box"Sep 22 05:23
acer-boxPlease stop using populism as a synonym for demagogy.Sep 22 05:23
acer-boxPlease stop insinuating that the global warming theory due to CO2 is "facts".Sep 22 05:23
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acer-boxPlease stop believing in the regime's newspapers. Start reading a dictionary and how the scientific method works.Sep 22 05:23
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acer-box"What about kernel patches?"Sep 22 05:23
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acer-box"as in Colombia,maybe we are worst"Sep 22 05:24
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acer-box" if you have the money, then you have the power. If you have the patents and nobody can stick two wires together without "infringing" your patent portfolio somehow, then you naturally have the money. So then you give your old buds at the patent office some lucrative consulting gigs once they exit through the revolving door, and that sweet sweet royalties revenue never stops flowing."Sep 22 05:24
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acer-box" that's just sad"Sep 22 05:24
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acer-box"Stop all foreign aid to the third world nations and nature will solve the problem overnight."Sep 22 05:25
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acer-box" personally, I like Jim Sterling's approach. Keep talking about it until it's no longer a problem"Sep 22 05:25
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acer-box" I'm pleased to see Leah Rowe can see spades as spades and rightfully calls the vilification a smear campaign. A while ago she struck me as unhinged, and I thought she would lap up this opportunity to take RMS down a notch so that she could outshine his dedication to free software, but it seems I've had the wrong impression of her."Sep 22 05:25
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acer-box"Gnome videos cant seem to play mpeg and other common video formats despite having nearly every codec I could installed. VLC however plays everything I throw at it. VLC is now my default video player. (on Fedora 31 for reference.)"Sep 22 05:25
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acer-box"Sep 22 05:26
acer-box the case of limiting carbon and methane output is not a workable solution. The exhaust is out there. The climate will continue changing because of the overload.Sep 22 05:26
acer-box What is needed are activities that extract the carbon and methane from the atmosphere. That is the only way next to shunting the excess out to space (this could be a mistake).Sep 22 05:26
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acer-boxImposing limits on emissions will be -- or is being -- abused as a tool to sabotage and cripple competitors in various industries.Sep 22 05:26
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acer-box"Roy, is there any chance to impact Gnome foundation so Neil McGovern will step away? Any organized wave of messages to them maybe?"Sep 22 05:26
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acer-boxGNOME has long been screwed like thisSep 22 05:26
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acer-box"Sep 22 05:27
acer-boxwhere are their apprentices? Their understudys? Who have they been mentoring?Sep 22 05:27
acer-boxI suspect they were are the climate strike.Sep 22 05:27
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acer-box" name and shame them"Sep 22 05:27
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acer-box"Use #peertube 😃"Sep 22 05:27
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acer-box"Which has it's roots in #TaxPayer funded #corporate #welfare and #government regulations creating monopolies"Sep 22 05:27
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acer-box"it's a worm, an infectious worm. Uck!"Sep 22 05:27
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r_schestowitz>>>>> The issue of decades of transmigration is not being addressed in KashmirSep 22 05:31
r_schestowitz>>>>> either.Sep 22 05:31
r_schestowitz>>>> Some stand to benefit from particular issues being perpetually present.Sep 22 05:31
r_schestowitz>>>>Sep 22 05:31
r_schestowitz>>> All seem to be dodging the underlying facilitator: overpopulation.Sep 22 05:31
r_schestowitz>> https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Human-population-growth-since-prehistoric-times-an-example-of-a-steep-exponential_fig11_266211170Sep 22 05:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.researchgate.net | 13: Human population growth since prehistoric times; an example of a... | Download Scientific DiagramSep 22 05:31
r_schestowitz>>Sep 22 05:31
r_schestowitz> Thanks.  I saw a chart like that in the 1990s in a museum in Stockholm.Sep 22 05:31
r_schestowitz>  The thing that struck me then was that the black plague, when looked atSep 22 05:31
r_schestowitz> in anything other than the short term, had no effect on overallSep 22 05:31
r_schestowitz> population.Sep 22 05:31
r_schestowitz> Sep 22 05:31
r_schestowitz> Traditionally when populations have exceeded the carrying capacity ofSep 22 05:31
r_schestowitz> the territories they occupy, they emigrate and annex new territories.Sep 22 05:31
r_schestowitz> For example when Krakatoa blew up, the carrying capacity in SwedenSep 22 05:31
r_schestowitz> dipped, and because of the communications technologies at the time, manySep 22 05:31
r_schestowitz> emigrated to North America.  The Middle East gets a double blow in thatSep 22 05:31
r_schestowitz> regard.  It will soon become physically uninhabitable due to furtherSep 22 05:31
r_schestowitz> climate change.  At the same time islam drives overpopulation and war,Sep 22 05:31
r_schestowitz> all three of which will emigrate into other territories as the climateSep 22 05:31
r_schestowitz> empties the Middle East.  Because of several factors, including currentSep 22 05:31
r_schestowitz> communications technologies, the target will be Europe -- again.Sep 22 05:32
r_schestowitz> Sep 22 05:32
r_schestowitz> Meanwhile, up here we are destroying not just farms but the actual landSep 22 05:32
r_schestowitz> which they were on at an alarming rate.  No one is looking ahead:Sep 22 05:32
r_schestowitz> Sep 22 05:32
r_schestowitz> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponential_growth#Water_lilySep 22 05:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Exponential growth - WikipediaSep 22 05:32
r_schestowitzIIRC, you're 16 years older than me, so you'll likely to experience less of the consequences than me.Sep 22 05:32
r_schestowitzRe: open washing definitionSep 22 05:34
r_schestowitz> just to be clear, im not planning to write the openwashing report.Sep 22 05:34
r_schestowitz> Sep 22 05:34
r_schestowitz> im going to look for whatever i can find, copy it into a plaintext file and send it your way-- hopefully with some of the work already done. i dont want to take over the task so much as take a significant portion of the load off for you.Sep 22 05:34
r_schestowitz> Sep 22 05:34
r_schestowitz> after i do that-- with your permission, i will go ahead and set out to do the list the way i intended to now that i can edit the wiki.Sep 22 05:34
r_schestowitz> Sep 22 05:34
r_schestowitz> i still need you to be able to veto names before theyre added. particularly i think we should WAIT to add esr and matt lee, who people have both nominated.Sep 22 05:34
r_schestowitz> Sep 22 05:34
r_schestowitz> i think theyre both traitors but theyre not banned from the list, i just dont think we should add them unless we are sure we want to. thats where your veto power comes in.Sep 22 05:34
r_schestowitz> Sep 22 05:34
r_schestowitz> ill send you a list of names by email when ive send you the stuff for openwashing, but dont worry about editing the wiki, ive got this. i simply dont want to be the sole person deciding who does/doesnt get on there.Sep 22 05:34
r_schestowitz> Sep 22 05:34
r_schestowitz> expect half-ready or mostly-ready content for the openwashing thing, obviously with grammar (caps) and that sort of thing. i dont want to leave you with too much to do this weekend.Sep 22 05:34
r_schestowitz> Sep 22 05:34
r_schestowitz> this isnt a compromise, i never wanted to be fully in charge of the openwashing report.Sep 22 05:34
r_schestowitz> i believe youre on the road, but what is the rss url?Sep 22 05:35
r_schestowitzfor the wiki?Sep 22 05:35
r_schestowitzor for 'open source'?Sep 22 05:35
r_schestowitzRe: openwashing: not much yet, this is all i found> plaintext, urls, full text generally speaking of articles, minor commentary.Sep 22 05:37
r_schestowitzI've already taken a look and it seems good.Sep 22 05:37
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16045005#b8ca7d90bed6013760de4061862b8e7bSep 22 05:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Safe Eyes – protect your eyes from eye strain http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128361Sep 22 05:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org | Safe Eyes – protect your eyes from eye strain | Tux MachinesSep 22 05:44
r_schestowitz"Sep 22 05:44
r_schestowitzSep 22 05:44
r_schestowitzAlways problems with this kind of software ! $ python3 -m safeeyes Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.7/runpy.py", line 193, in runmoduleasmain "main", modspec) File "/usr/lib/python3.7/runpy.py", line 85, in runcode exec(code, runglobals) File "/home/vladimir/SafeEyes/safeeyes/main.py", line 31, in <module> import psutil ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'psutil' I'm sorry but I don't have the time to register Sep 22 05:44
r_schestowitzat GitHub.Sep 22 05:44
r_schestowitz"Sep 22 05:44
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/OurRaceIsOurNa1/status/1175531967095296000Sep 22 05:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@OurRaceIsOurNa1: Corporate capitalists attack the free as freedom software movement by enforcing the cultural marxist agenda. Red H… https://t.co/lyJ75PYr3NSep 22 05:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@OurRaceIsOurNa1: Corporate capitalists attack the free as freedom software movement by enforcing the cultural marxist agenda. Red H… https://t.co/lyJ75PYr3NSep 22 05:45
r_schestowitz"Sep 22 05:45
r_schestowitzCorporate capitalists attack the free as freedom software movement by enforcing the cultural marxist agenda.Sep 22 05:45
r_schestowitzRed Hat urges the FSF board to embrace dieversity.Sep 22 05:45
r_schestowitzhttps://redhat.com/en/blog/open-letter-free-software-foundation-board-directors…Sep 22 05:45
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r_schestowitzBuying Or Removing Its Leadership (Calling Them Sexist)Sep 22 05:45
r_schestowitz"Sep 22 05:45
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/1175484949207638016Sep 22 05:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@fcassia: @schestowitz when there's no more oil -or need for it thanks to #renewables- the Middle East will have peace.Sep 22 05:46
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jb_serious/status/1175510661364953089Sep 22 05:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jb_serious: @schestowitz Why should they be Pakistani? #unitedkashmir #independentkashmirSep 22 05:48
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/policyspacexyz/status/1175516499802562560Sep 22 05:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@policyspacexyz: @schestowitz Is it true that in the UK for many years people who were employed were denied the vote because it was… https://t.co/17oOvPvN4xSep 22 05:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@policyspacexyz: @schestowitz Is it true that in the UK for many years people who were employed were denied the vote because it was… https://t.co/17oOvPvN4xSep 22 05:49
r_schestowitz"Is it true that in the UK for many years people who were employed were denied the vote because it was assumed they would just vote however their employers told them to vote?"Sep 22 05:49
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/policyspacexyz/status/1175520064008785920Sep 22 05:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@policyspacexyz: @schestowitz I am pretty sure trade agreements like the WTO telecommunications agreement require equal back doors.… https://t.co/Eq1evx9GVzSep 22 05:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@policyspacexyz: @schestowitz I am pretty sure trade agreements like the WTO telecommunications agreement require equal back doors.… https://t.co/Eq1evx9GVzSep 22 05:49
r_schestowitz\"I am pretty sure trade agreements like the WTO telecommunications agreement require equal back doors. All countries equal, nomatter how bad or good. Thats probably whats going on, a little theater because of that. Also, doesn't "CALEA" require they give agencies a tap?"Sep 22 05:49
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AuditDir_Jay/status/1175521537304289281Sep 22 05:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AuditDir_Jay: @schestowitz @CharismaAlasta2 Here’s a question to ponder: is it really open source software if it was stolen by a… https://t.co/t2wAvInC75Sep 22 05:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AuditDir_Jay: @schestowitz @CharismaAlasta2 Here’s a question to ponder: is it really open source software if it was stolen by a… https://t.co/t2wAvInC75Sep 22 05:49
r_schestowitz"Sep 22 05:49
r_schestowitzHere’s a question to ponder: is it really open source software if it was stolen by a government employee and given to the IBM Eclipse Foundation to give out for free? Leader Technologies should be paid for the theft?  Sep 22 05:49
r_schestowitz@AmIntelMediaSep 22 05:49
r_schestowitz"Sep 22 05:49
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/alabrar99/status/1175532308482396160Sep 22 05:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@alabrar99: @schestowitz How come you have nothing to say about............Sep 22 05:50
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1021932573896585216?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1021932573896585216:0:0:0:1021932991719129088Sep 22 06:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesSep 22 06:11
r_schestowitz"Ya a 100% CCP run Android phone. No thanks.."Sep 22 06:11
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1022103566173282304?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1022103566173282304:0:0:0:1022171787568107520Sep 22 06:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | The Scourge in the White House - CounterPunch.orgSep 22 06:11
r_schestowitz"The irony being that the author of this repeats unscientific, false, or alarmist claims habitually in order to manipulate - but they don't consider that to be 'corrupt practices'"Sep 22 06:11
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1022103416299900928?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1022103416299900928:0:0:0:1022174790489845760Sep 22 06:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Condemning Pompeo Warmongering, Sanders Says 'Attack on Saudi Oil IsSep 22 06:11
r_schestowitz"Funny how he didn't give a shit when it was Libya. And how he thinks that a nation who consistently threatens nearby nation's will honor a deal of any kind."Sep 22 06:11
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1022100298822930432?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1022100298822930432:0:0:0:1022175751824527360Sep 22 06:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Applause as Federal Court Blocks 'Unconstitutional' South Dakota LawSep 22 06:12
r_schestowitz"If an article can't be bothered to post the law that they are against, it's a pretty sure bet they are misrepresenting it."Sep 22 06:12
r_schestowitz"Lol, the law literally says you can't commit violence, threaten violence, or call for violence. Pretty sure this is perfectly Constitutional.'Sep 22 06:12
r_schestowitz"https://sdlegislature.gov/Legislative_Session/Bills/Bill.aspx?File=SB189P.htm&Session=2019&Version=Printed&Bill=189"Sep 22 06:12
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-sdlegislature.gov | SDLRC - 2019 Senate Bill 189 - PrintedSep 22 06:12
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1022099918526984192?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1022099918526984192:0:0:0:1022178685316550656Sep 22 06:12
r_schestowitz"https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-blogs/weathermatrix/5-things-the-media-wont-tell-you-about-the-amazon-fires/70009150"Sep 22 06:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Burning Amazonia, Denying Climate Change, Devastating Syria, Starving Yemen, and Ignoring Kashmir - CounterPunch.orgSep 22 06:13
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1022212372618223616?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1022212372618223616:0:0:0:1022220304823074816Sep 22 06:13
r_schestowitz"I'll never understand this obsession on the left of propping up children as their spokespeople. If you're not mature enough to drive, consent to sex, get married, drink, purchase cigarettes, vape, serve in the military, vote, etc., perhaps you're not mature enough to grasp the nuance of complex world issues and/or influence governmental policy."Sep 22 06:13
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1022213758051438592?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1022213758051438592:0:0:0:1022219265818435584Sep 22 06:13
r_schestowitz"Sep 22 06:13
r_schestowitzTeachers had my class doing this same thing about global cooling and the new ice age if we did not stop pollution ........ 50 years ago . Sep 22 06:14
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1011033115293319168Sep 22 06:14
r_schestowitz"Sep 22 06:14
r_schestowitz"Sep 22 06:14
r_schestowitzTeachers had my class doing this same thing about global cooling and the new ice age if we did not stop pollution ........ 50 years ago .Sep 22 06:14
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1020955424670007296Sep 22 06:14
r_schestowitz"Sep 22 06:14
r_schestowitz"Sep 22 06:14
r_schestowitzTeachers had my class doing this same thing about global cooling and the new ice age if we did not stop pollution ........ 50 years ago .Sep 22 06:14
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1020955424670007296Sep 22 06:14
r_schestowitz"Sep 22 06:14
r_schestowitz"Sep 22 06:14
r_schestowitzI’m sorry Greta, that’s just wildly wrong and not rooted in reality. It’s the worst sort of alarmism there is.Sep 22 06:14
r_schestowitzThis is one of those “share the hell out of this on Facebook and Twitter” type posts, because it carries a clear and simple message: Greta has no idea what she is talking about.Sep 22 06:14
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1022205881296932864Sep 22 06:14
r_schestowitz"Sep 22 06:14
r_schestowitz"TEACHERS WILL COS THEY LAZY BASTARDS."Sep 22 06:14
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1022228738106044416?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1022228738106044416:0:0:0:1022229442212450304Sep 22 06:14
r_schestowitzhttps://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1022190482048004096?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1022190482048004096:0:0:0:1022277791685222400Sep 22 06:15
r_schestowitz"Tis not spicy enough"Sep 22 06:15
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r_schestowitz"Here's what I was able to find from the latest Open Source feed you gave me.Sep 22 07:26
r_schestowitz"Note that I'm not having an easy time finding what you're looking for. I've narrowed it down from things that definitely seem "legit" (not open-washing) and there could be stories here, I don't know if I found anything that suits your report. Sep 22 07:26
r_schestowitz"But if I'm wrong, here is a summary with almost no commentary. Let me know what you think we should do next..."Sep 22 07:26
acer-boxhttps://www.itpro.co.uk/open-source/34463/what-to-expect-from-open-networking-summit-2019Sep 22 07:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.itpro.co.uk | What to expect from Open Networking Summit 2019 | IT PROSep 22 07:31
r_schestowitzhttps://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/scotiabank-working-to-remove-code-inadvertently-sent-to-open-source-platform-1.1319582Sep 22 07:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.bnnbloomberg.ca | Scotiabank working to remove code inadvertently sent to open source platform - BNN BloombergSep 22 07:40
r_schestowitzhttps://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/09/20/open_source_companies_cloud/Sep 22 07:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.co.uk | Open-source companies gather to gripe: Cloud giants sell our code as a service – and we get the square root of nothing • The RegisterSep 22 07:41
r_schestowitz> Sep 22 07:54
r_schestowitz> And that's all I've found so far. Sep 22 07:54
r_schestowitz> Sep 22 07:54
r_schestowitz> It's not very much, and you have a certain flair writing about it that I couldn't dream of reproducing without practice (and more sleep than I've had).Sep 22 07:54
r_schestowitz> Sep 22 07:54
r_schestowitz> I was hoping to help find you more examples of openwashing. I used your Google link. Where else should I look, and what timeframe are we looking at for the report?Sep 22 07:54
r_schestowitzI have just had a change to look at the whole thing.Sep 22 07:54
r_schestowitzvery good and very helpful! Sep 22 07:54
r_schestowitzYes, you're finding the right examples.  Also, they're new /types/ of examplesSep 22 07:54
r_schestowitzThe way I find these, I let them accumulate from RSS for one week, then I filter headlines by topics to group them, e.g. "github"Sep 22 07:54
r_schestowitzOne important point is, to avoid repetition I cut off everything older than one week.Sep 22 07:54
r_schestowitzEventually we get a list or a catalogue of openwashing patterns that can be presented concisely in a wiki page.Sep 22 07:54
r_schestowitz> Sparse again.Sep 22 07:56
r_schestowitz> Sep 22 07:56
r_schestowitz> The question has been raised on at least one mailing list about why theSep 22 07:56
r_schestowitz> FSF did not even notify its members about a major impending decision,Sep 22 07:56
r_schestowitz> specifically RMS resignation.  That's a good question to ask.Sep 22 07:56
r_schestowitz> Sep 22 07:56
r_schestowitz> Alexandre Oliva has been mentioned as a possible successor.  Would he beSep 22 07:56
r_schestowitz> willing to move to the US?Sep 22 07:56
r_schestowitz[07:55] <r_schestowitz> and they know there's this agendaSep 22 07:56
r_schestowitz[07:55] <r_schestowitz> which is right now to ruin MIT and partiSep 22 07:56
r_schestowitz[07:55] <r_schestowitz> particular people in itSep 22 07:56
r_schestowitz[07:55] <r_schestowitz> Ito (Creative Commons)Sep 22 07:56
r_schestowitz[07:55] <r_schestowitz> RMSSep 22 07:56
r_schestowitz[07:55] <r_schestowitz> but not Bill Gates and Mo Bin SalmanSep 22 07:56
r_schestowitz> One important point is, to avoid repetition I cut off everything older than one week.Sep 22 08:59
r_schestowitz> Sep 22 08:59
r_schestowitz> i just noted the date of the previous report (sep 15) and looked for 16 and later.Sep 22 08:59
r_schestowitz> Sep 22 08:59
r_schestowitz> there were more things that looked suspect but i weeded out several of those that have source code under free licenses.Sep 22 08:59
r_schestowitzThings to look out for:Sep 22 08:59
r_schestowitzSurveillance code being spun as "open"Sep 22 08:59
r_schestowitzSurveillance DCs as "open"Sep 22 08:59
r_schestowitzPartial codeSep 22 08:59
r_schestowitzLimiting surveys to just GitHubSep 22 08:59
r_schestowitz"Open" but runs only on proprietary platformsSep 22 08:59
r_schestowitz"Open Core" aka "Enterprise Edition"Sep 22 08:59
r_schestowitzProprietary giants sponsoring "open"Sep 22 08:59
r_schestowitzEventually we might have lots of examples we can file together based on common themes.Sep 22 08:59
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r_schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/09/huawei-makes-surprising-announcement-or.html?showComment=1568986961251#c6110004917657314610Sep 22 09:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Huawei makes a surprising announcement, or, the changing role of patents in the global economy - The IPKatSep 22 09:41
r_schestowitz"Thanks Max, I'm glad you like the post! It's certainly true that Huawei is facing some difficulties in the West in general and the U.S. in particular, but one might think this makes their patents more, rather than less valuable. Huawei is banned from buying US components, but presumably not from enforcing its patents there as that would come down to a pretty far-reaching expropriation. In any event its patents are enforceable in Europe,Sep 22 09:41
r_schestowitz and for companies with comparable portfolios in mobile infrastructure -- Qualcomm, Nokia, etc. -- such core patents are the company's crown jewels, and we see a lot of enforcement activity around them (I suppose it's telling that the CJEU's landmark FRAND case involved patent enforcement by... Huawei). I agree that monetizing on patents by selling rather than licensing them does not seem so different, but still think it's a pretty Sep 22 09:41
r_schestowitzatypical move for these specific types of patents, especially if you add to that Huawei's express purpose of creating space for a competitor for its handheld business."Sep 22 09:41
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/01micko/status/1175698565257158656Sep 22 10:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@01micko: @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) regarding the recent post on Techrights (https://t.co/yEe8ypuqay) by figosdev I would lik… https://t.co/RAb5o5uKXhSep 22 10:45
r_schestowitz"@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) regarding the recent post on Techrights (http://techrights.org/2019/09/17/rms-witch-hunt/ …) by figosdev I would like to refer you to this series of 5 articles How to destroy FOSS from within http://www.lightofdawn.org/blog/?viewDetailed=00195 …) ... https://pluspora.com/p/2119655 "Sep 22 10:45
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rbarraud/status/1175744270751260672Sep 22 13:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@rbarraud: @schestowitz #LundukeWarnedUsSep 22 13:37
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rbarraud/status/1175744218846777344Sep 22 13:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@rbarraud: @schestowitz #FUMS #ZemlinIsTrojanHorseScumSep 22 13:37
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MellowOchre/status/1175696155965042689Sep 22 13:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MellowOchre: @schestowitz You worry me, sir. You really do. https://t.co/fs8jvb76og And I was already worried before.Sep 22 13:39
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/reaIellie/status/1175696412836806656Sep 22 13:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@reaIellie: @schestowitz https://t.co/wx6vqjpdMxSep 22 13:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@reaIellie: @schestowitz https://t.co/wx6vqjpdMxSep 22 13:39
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Penguin___Lover/status/1175696570509119488Sep 22 13:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Penguin___Lover: @schestowitz, Penguins are the bestSep 22 13:39
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/terminsane/status/1175726248284348417Sep 22 13:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@terminsane: @schestowitz They're paid propagandists.Sep 22 13:40
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schestowitz> One important point is, to avoid repetition I cut off everything older than one week.Sep 22 17:40
schestowitz> Sep 22 17:40
schestowitz> i just noted the date of the previous report (sep 15) and looked for 16 and later.Sep 22 17:40
schestowitz> Sep 22 17:40
schestowitz> there were more things that looked suspect but i weeded out several of those that have source code under free licenses.Sep 22 17:40

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