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| schestowitz | >> Of course I would have titled it something like: | Sep 22 03:39 |
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| schestowitz | >> | Sep 22 03:39 |
| schestowitz | >> "The big thing the new FSF just don't get (or now ignores)" | Sep 22 03:39 |
| schestowitz | >> | Sep 22 03:39 |
| schestowitz | >> I'm not saying his title isn't better, just mine comes right out and | Sep 22 03:39 |
| schestowitz | >> says exactly what his article means to me. To be fair, it means more | Sep 22 03:39 |
| schestowitz | >> than that. I wish the FSF would read it (they might, though it's too | Sep 22 03:39 |
| schestowitz | >> obvious they won't get it.) | Sep 22 03:39 |
| schestowitz | >> | Sep 22 03:39 |
| schestowitz | >> So here's my compromise title: "The Worrying State of Political | Sep 22 03:39 |
| schestowitz | >> Judgement in the FSF" | Sep 22 03:39 |
| schestowitz | >> | Sep 22 03:39 |
| schestowitz | >> But he's still right. He nails it, even in the title. So let's just | Sep 22 03:39 |
| schestowitz | >> change the font and have a plane sky-write it over the FSF. They still | Sep 22 03:39 |
| schestowitz | >> won't get it, but they can't say we didn't do our best to explain! | Sep 22 03:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 22 03:39 |
| schestowitz | > I finally have the time to comment you this. | Sep 22 03:39 |
| schestowitz | > Today, in a news roundup post previous to my article, you included a | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > link to this other blog post: | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > https://skyfromme.wordpress.com/2020/09/20/the-great-filter-of-open-source-projects/ | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 22 03:40 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-skyfromme.wordpress.com | The great filter of open source projects – You can't take the sky from me. | Sep 22 03:40 | |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > There, bmichaelsen also takes an angle on the Mozilla situation, and | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > "open source" (instead of free software) in general. | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > And the narrative there had also some contact points with mine, | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > specially in the timesets and the role of Mozilla on the web. | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > There are some surprising details for me, like how it also mentions the | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > idea (from a third person) of Mozilla getting money from national states | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > (Germany in this case). | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > So, the debate I was talking in my post seems to actually be a thing | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > outside my own head. | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > But note how the tool for accesing that narrative and historical data is | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > economics, and not politics or epistemology as was my case. | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > This is actually understandable, as the issue in mind was the Mozilla | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > layoffs. That implies production, sustainability, money... that's | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > economics, alright. | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > However, note how EVERYTHING then happens to be an economic parameter | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > after that choice of tool for the job. And that's a pretty common thing | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > this days: "it's the economy, stupid". | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > Yet, take a look at the conceptual sources for bmichaelsen arguments, | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > both linked in the post: | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > * | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.linux.com/audience/enterprise/what-are-open-source-products/ | Sep 22 03:40 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linux.com | What Are Open Source Products? - Linux.com | Sep 22 03:40 | |
| schestowitz | > * https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2002/06/12/strategy-letter-v/ | Sep 22 03:40 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.joelonsoftware.com | Strategy Letter V – Joel on Software | Sep 22 03:40 | |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > The first one, actually quoted by bmichaelsen for this very reason, | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > explains that "open source" is not a business model. That's a point | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > where, precisely, it's not exactly about "economics" (I would say | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > "capital") but something else. | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > And the second one (which is the one that made me say something like "I | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > need to write to somebody about this!"), states how there's a myth about | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > the sustainability of "free as in free beer", and argues about how | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > that's explained by microeconomics. His argument is pretty much solid... | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > except when it's Netscape's turn, and Mr Spolsky starts to doubt of his | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > own argument, and even ends up conceding that the thing may not be | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > exactly the same as everything else with Netscape's case. | Sep 22 03:40 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 22 03:41 |
| schestowitz | > My feeling is that I was right about trying to access the Mozilla case | Sep 22 03:41 |
| schestowitz | > from outside economics, and even to argue that economics is a second | Sep 22 03:41 |
| schestowitz | > level problem. | Sep 22 03:41 |
| schestowitz | > And if I'm right in that, the point was that I was talking about Mozilla | Sep 22 03:41 |
| schestowitz | > just as an entry case of something deeper in our line of work. | Sep 22 03:41 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 22 03:41 |
| schestowitz | > Well... it felt like I had to share this with you. | Sep 22 03:41 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks for posting the article! :D | Sep 22 03:41 |
| schestowitz | >> I would happily donate to an astronomy project/radio telescope array | Sep 22 03:41 |
| schestowitz | >> lease conceived to locate the ball, after Canta hit it that far out of | Sep 22 03:41 |
| schestowitz | >> the park with his article. | Sep 22 03:41 |
| schestowitz | >> | Sep 22 03:41 |
| schestowitz | >> It's Canta's Comet! Everyone should read. I wish they would. (Thousands | Sep 22 03:41 |
| schestowitz | >> may!) | Sep 22 03:41 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 22 03:41 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 22 03:41 |
| schestowitz | > Oh, I'm so happy someone liked it! | Sep 22 03:41 |
| schestowitz | > It means a lot to me, thank you very much for telling me. And, of | Sep 22 03:41 |
| schestowitz | > course, feel free to share this mail address with any person you | Sep 22 03:41 |
| schestowitz | > consider: I trust your criteria. | Sep 22 03:41 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 22 03:41 |
| schestowitz | > I can't write a proper answer right now, because I'm on my work time, | Sep 22 03:41 |
| schestowitz | > and right after that I have a class to attend. But I saw some other | Sep 22 03:41 |
| schestowitz | > people writting stuff similar to what I've wrote (and even the same | Sep 22 03:41 |
| schestowitz | > day!), so it's kinda amazing: I'm clearly not the only one seeing an | Sep 22 03:41 |
| schestowitz | > example of something larger in Mozilla's case. | Sep 22 03:41 |
| schestowitz | >> Exactly so if you are purely talking about Unix history Linux, Minix | Sep 22 03:49 |
| schestowitz | > and GNU really should not appear. | Sep 22 03:49 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 22 03:49 |
| schestowitz | > I agree. In fact I assumed the same. However, this is probably quite | Sep 22 03:49 |
| schestowitz | > relevant: | Sep 22 03:49 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 22 03:49 |
| schestowitz | > https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=-rPPqm44xLs | Sep 22 03:49 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 22 03:49 |
| schestowitz | >> *Shared July 19, 2013* | Sep 22 03:49 |
| schestowitz | > No internet, no networking; just a screen and a keyboard, or a pile of | Sep 22 03:49 |
| schestowitz | > cards to punch holes in; mainframes were a world apart from today's | Sep 22 03:49 |
| schestowitz | > smartphones and integrated circuits. Professor Brailsford remembers the | Sep 22 03:49 |
| schestowitz | > Unix revolution. | Sep 22 03:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-invidious.snopyta.org | Mainframes and the Unix Revolution - Computerphile - Invidious | Sep 22 03:49 | |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 22 03:49 |
| schestowitz | >> To hear about the omission of Gnu and Richard Stallman: | Sep 22 03:49 |
| schestowitz | > http://youtu.be/Wi326Leuemg | Sep 22 03:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.youtube.com | EXTRA BITS - Behind the scenes on Computerphile - Computerphile - YouTube | Sep 22 03:49 | |
| schestowitz | > <https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=Wi326Leuemg> | Sep 22 03:49 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 22 03:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-invidious.snopyta.org | EXTRA BITS - Behind the scenes on Computerphile - Computerphile - Invidious | Sep 22 03:49 | |
| schestowitz | > So that goes here: https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=Wi326Leuemg | Sep 22 03:49 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 22 03:49 |
| schestowitz | > Haven't watched it yet. | Sep 22 03:49 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 22 03:49 |
| schestowitz | > *Shared August 22, 2013* | Sep 22 03:49 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 22 03:49 |
| schestowitz | > Professor Brailsford discusses the odd mistake that may have been made, | Sep 22 03:49 |
| schestowitz | > including the omission of a certain Richard Stallman from our Mainframes | Sep 22 03:49 |
| schestowitz | > & Unix film! | Sep 22 03:49 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 22 03:50 |
| schestowitz | > (What I thought you'd enjoy was the coverage of things you were less | Sep 22 03:50 |
| schestowitz | > familiar with, more than the things it failed to cover that you knew. As | Sep 22 03:50 |
| schestowitz | > for what it leaves out, it's a bit glaring for a timeline-- but I was | Sep 22 03:50 |
| schestowitz | > sure that would be obvious enough on its own.) | Sep 22 03:50 |
| schestowitz | Good to see other people noticed and then noted the same thing. | Sep 22 03:50 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1308096291143143424 | Sep 22 04:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz Germans don't want to renegotiate. Vote in the Bundestag is coming. | Sep 22 04:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TonyMac_32/status/1308191649936412673 | Sep 22 04:05 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TonyMac_32: @armbian @schestowitz That's all? I'm going to need 2. | Sep 22 04:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AntiSoftwarePat/status/1308090118973030402 | Sep 22 04:05 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AntiSoftwarePat: @schestowitz Any more info? Link? | Sep 22 04:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/1308082520576139266 | Sep 22 04:06 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jwildeboer: @schestowitz Thank you. And that’s an honest thank you. We might disagree at times about the way forward, but I sti… https://t.co/RLFe68vAeo | Sep 22 04:06 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jwildeboer: @schestowitz Thank you. And that’s an honest thank you. We might disagree at times about the way forward, but I sti… https://t.co/RLFe68vAeo | Sep 22 04:06 | |
| schestowitz | "Thank you. And that’s an honest thank you. We might disagree at times about the way forward, but I still hope we want the same thing :)" | Sep 22 04:06 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/armbian/status/1308066295636688896 | Sep 22 04:06 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@armbian: @schestowitz Developers do. :) https://t.co/1rigArEbBr | Sep 22 04:06 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/HilaryEllary/status/1307927575570898944 | Sep 22 04:07 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@HilaryEllary: Women will rise up if men don’t stop murdering and abusing us. Even in the most dangerous situations - Iran / Belor… https://t.co/EY2FhJSZy7 | Sep 22 04:07 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@HilaryEllary: Women will rise up if men don’t stop murdering and abusing us. Even in the most dangerous situations - Iran / Belor… https://t.co/EY2FhJSZy7 | Sep 22 04:07 | |
| schestowitz | "Women will rise up if men don’t stop murdering and abusing us. Even in the most dangerous situations - Iran / Belorussia.If we are going to die anyway - we will bring you down with us. We have nothing to lose." | Sep 22 04:07 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/htunwinmyathei7/status/1307905835805204481 | Sep 22 04:07 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@htunwinmyathei7: @schestowitz Good day share ir | Sep 22 04:07 | |
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| schestowitz | Don't want to sound like nagging ;-) but was merged+other links not uploaded due to oversight (or coming soon)? | Sep 22 14:04 |
| schestowitz | x https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-09-21-20-intl/h_f1e67abfe78e2d2a4053690e6c5ed8d6 | Sep 22 14:48 |
| schestowitz | # bill sez | Sep 22 14:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-edition.cnn.com | Bill Gates: "The end of the epidemic, best case, is probably 2022" | Sep 22 14:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/WakkerW/status/1308416995164028928 | Sep 22 17:09 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@WakkerW: @simonvgroningen @netty_verbeek Zeer uitgebreid bron onderzoek betreffende. Bill Gates. Waar ook links met Epstein… https://t.co/LgooSPU4dl | Sep 22 17:09 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@WakkerW: @simonvgroningen @netty_verbeek Zeer uitgebreid bron onderzoek betreffende. Bill Gates. Waar ook links met Epstein… https://t.co/LgooSPU4dl | Sep 22 17:09 | |
| schestowitz | "Zeer uitgebreid bron onderzoek betreffende. Bill Gates. Waar ook links met Epstein instaan. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php" | Sep 22 17:09 |
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| schestowitz | >> Don't want to sound like nagging ;-) but was merged+other links not | Sep 22 23:36 |
| schestowitz | >> uploaded due to oversight (or coming soon)? | Sep 22 23:36 |
| schestowitz | >> | Sep 22 23:36 |
| schestowitz | > They're on TR already since just after 5:30 UTC. Today is the 22nd. | Sep 22 23:36 |
| schestowitz | The day beforeahnd all konsole sessions crashed and I restarted them. I then watched Links on my LOCAL machine instead of remote ;-) :-) | Sep 22 23:36 |
| schestowitz | My bad... I was not checking the right directory ;-) | Sep 22 23:36 |
| schestowitz | >>> Don't want to sound like nagging ;-) but was merged+other links not | Sep 22 23:38 |
| schestowitz | >>> uploaded due to oversight (or coming soon)? | Sep 22 23:38 |
| schestowitz | >>> | Sep 22 23:38 |
| schestowitz | >> They're on TR already since just after 5:30 UTC. Today is the 22nd. | Sep 22 23:38 |
| schestowitz | >> | Sep 22 23:38 |
| schestowitz | > Thinking about it a bit more, if TR were updated, we could run the | Sep 22 23:38 |
| schestowitz | > automated link curation there. Then it could be set with a failsafe so | Sep 22 23:38 |
| schestowitz | > that if the manual links are not run by a certain time of day, the | Sep 22 23:38 |
| schestowitz | > automated links will run alone and the merge can happen the next day | Sep 22 23:38 |
| schestowitz | > instead. | Sep 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | At the moment it's the same VM as TR (Links that is), so any additional software or Perl module added would introduce a little risk. | Sep 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | Can we think of any additional workflow enhancement? Lateral thinking? I recently coded some new tricks to save time. | Sep 22 23:39 |
| schestowitz | Today I'm low on topics; hard to think of any... | Sep 22 23:39 |
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