●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, September 22, 2026 ●● ● Sep 22 [02:44] *Techrights-sec has quit (OperServ (Session limit exceeded)) [02:44] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@freenode-er27h0.ldvb.0amm.hij1op.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [02:44] *Techrights-sec has quit (OperServ (Session limit exceeded)) [02:44] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@freenode-er27h0.ldvb.0amm.hij1op.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [02:44] *Techrights-sec has quit (Z-lined) [02:44] *techrights-sec4 has quit (Z-lined) [02:44] *schestowitz-TR2 has quit (Z-lined) [02:44] *Disconnected (Remote host closed socket). ● Sep 22 [03:14] *Now talking on #boycottnovell ● Sep 22 [07:30] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@qiysgnj2chdjg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:30] *liberty_box__ (~liberty@qiysgnj2chdjg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:50] *liberty_box__ has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:50] *rianne (~rianne@qiysgnj2chdjg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:50] *liberty_box_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:50] *asusbox (~rianne@qiysgnj2chdjg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 22 [11:05] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [11:39] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:46] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell ● Sep 22 [12:10] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 22 [13:10] schestowitz[TR2] Re: transphobic accusations [13:10] schestowitz[TR2] > I'm putting together another report for somebody [13:10] schestowitz[TR2] > [13:10] schestowitz[TR2] > I'm trying to get a sample of some really acute examples of transgender [13:10] schestowitz[TR2] > people being overbearing and making accusations against people or [13:10] schestowitz[TR2] > punishing people [13:10] schestowitz[TR2] > [13:10] schestowitz[TR2] > I'm looking for the most acute examples over an extended period, over 20 [13:10] schestowitz[TR2] > years or more, are there any cases that come to mind? [13:10] schestowitz[TR2] > [13:10] schestowitz[TR2] > One example I already included in the list is the 2021 RMS open letter. [13:10] schestowitz[TR2] > It has the accusation of being transphobic in the first paragraph. [13:10] schestowitz[TR2] > [13:10] schestowitz[TR2] > Another example are the messages from Ariadne Conill stalking me. [13:10] schestowitz[TR2] > [13:10] schestowitz[TR2] > Preferably examples where the transgender person themself has written an [13:10] schestowitz[TR2] > email or something that doesn't need me to add any explanation. [13:10] schestowitz[TR2] The accusations can take the subtle form of, I don't like that person, that person said something something something, and I am also trans btw. [13:10] schestowitz[TR2] That last part is supposed to add magnitude to the accusation. [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] > [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] > If they send something on a Sunday night when most people are with their [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] > kids or whatever then it tends to be seen by other trans people before [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] > anybody else. The "I am also trans" thing or the reference to [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] > transphobia anywhere in such communications tends to be there to [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] > deliberately set off the rest of those people before any level-headed [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] > people get up the next morning and add balance to the discussion. [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] > [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] > There are a few examples though. If you look at the thread in Raptor [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] > Forums there are comments from Tim Kelly calling me transphobic. It is [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] > not clear if somebody told him to say that or if he is being [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] > oversensitive to something I wrote. [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] > [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] > The threshold for calling somebody transphobic is very low. Not being [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] > aware of some particular sensitivity or prohibited word is put on a par [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] > with somebody who walks into a diversity meeting and commits a mass [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] > shooting. [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] > [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] > This type of thing is not new. They were calling Ted Walther (krooger) [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] > a misogynist, racist and a nazi back in the day but I didn't have the [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] > impression that he was doing anything really racist. [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] > [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] > In 2018, they said Dr Preining was transphobic or non-binary-phobic or [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] > whatever, in 2021 it was RMS-is-transphobic but I'm trying to go back [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] > further than that and find other cases where there is a particular [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] > person they target with the accusation of transphobia. [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] > [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] > Regards, [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] It's usually o subtle and shallow that grown-ups can ignore it and move on. [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] Shallow like https://techrights.org/n/2025/09/22/The_Solicitors_Regulation_Authority_SRA_Has_a_Policy_on_Racism_.shtml [13:50] *TechBN has quit (connection closed) [13:50] *TechBN (~b0t@iijacan2vrgta.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:50] -TechBN/#boycottnovell-Failed to load module HelloWorld. Reason: Not found! [13:50] -TechBN/#boycottnovell-Module HelloWorld has been removed until restarted! ● Sep 22 [14:32] *psydroid2 has quit (Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/) [14:41] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@36imbvshpgubk.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 22 [15:00] *psydroid3 (~psydroid@36imbvshpgubk.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:55] schestowitz[TR2] > Yes, grown-ups tend to ignore it because it has been done so many times. [15:55] schestowitz[TR2] > [15:55] schestowitz[TR2] > But nonetheless when they do it on developers or leadership figures [15:55] schestowitz[TR2] > within the community it is not random. 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