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[07:43] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [07:43] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@uvxvchtayzkvk.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 22 [08:07] techrightssec2 ack [08:08] schestowitz-TR now up to 12 users in mumble [08:08] schestowitz-TR sometimes photos are uploaded when we are afk, only murmur running [08:08] schestowitz-TR and so it's not possible to see what was there [08:08] schestowitz-TR but the simple solution, I guess, it to stay online [08:08] techrightssec2 ack [08:08] techrightssec2 nice [08:08] techrightssec2 how many can it handle concurrently as far as the sound goes? [08:11] techrightssec2 ok [08:11] schestowitz-TR the 12 are not concurrent [08:11] schestowitz-TR I am counting how many people have a mumble client (usually mumla) [08:11] techrightssec2 ok [08:11] schestowitz-TR so have the capacity to connect [08:15] schestowitz-TR i was thinking of privacy aspects [08:15] schestowitz-TR it goes like this [08:15] schestowitz-TR for local calls, akin to intercom [08:15] schestowitz-TR exploit might be [08:15] schestowitz-TR 1) weak e2e encryption [08:15] schestowitz-TR 2) cracked device, e.g. laptop [08:15] schestowitz-TR 3) router takeover by ISP, plus (1) [08:15] schestowitz-TR for inward/outward calls it's simpler, as many use android [08:15] schestowitz-TR then [08:15] schestowitz-TR a) android crack (turn micro listening model) [08:15] schestowitz-TR b) see (1) above [08:15] schestowitz-TR and several combinations of 1+2+3, a suibset of this scenario [08:15] schestowitz-TR it might be interesting to see a videos made on it [08:15] schestowitz-TR if none exist, I might make one some day [08:15] schestowitz-TR conversations that are truly private should become the norm [08:15] schestowitz-TR never mind the terror scare and "think of the chlldren" red herring [08:22] techrightssec2 ack [08:42] *onix (~959c48e0@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 22 [09:05] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[09:23] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [09:24] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:26] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [09:26] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@uvxvchtayzkvk.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:31] techrightssec2 3) not just the ISP, but third parties, since the ISP is most unlikely to [09:31] techrightssec2 ever update the firmware let alone do it ofen enough to keep it up to date [09:51] schestowitz-TR based on the links, disney is to entertainment what microsofters are to tech [09:51] schestowitz-TR they remove founders from their projects [09:51] schestowitz-TR and trample all over [09:51] schestowitz-TR maybe george lucas will be in a mental asylum some time soon [09:51] schestowitz-TR or sent to "therapists" ● Dec 22 [10:26] *onix has quit (Quit: https://mibbit.com Online IRC Client) [10:31] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[13:37] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [13:37] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@uvxvchtayzkvk.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:46] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:47] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) ● Dec 22 [14:00] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [14:00] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@uvxvchtayzkvk.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 22 [15:12] schestowitz-TR so some people who read the series are reporting that in their workplace/s they too [15:12] schestowitz-TR experience(d) similar things [15:12] schestowitz-TR I guess after a decade or more you learn to recognise and explain some certain pattern [15:12] schestowitz-TR with focus on foss and "it" [15:12] schestowitz-TR e.g. hr as foes of the staff [15:12] schestowitz-TR or, if outsourced, the entire company (client) [15:13] techrightssec2 I would guess that the behaviors and tactics described are commonplace [15:13] techrightssec2 HR is there to protect the company from the workers, too bad [15:14] schestowitz-TR hr is also there to protect hr [15:14] schestowitz-TR which, if outsourced, means that hr can issue self-harming advice [15:33] schestowitz-TR Yuppie EV fantasies; the problems is overpopulation and excess of automobiles. EVs don't generate their OWN power. Other issues, noted by GNU/Linux dev today https://bkhome.org/news/202212/electric-vehicle-reality-check.html [15:33] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-bkhome.org | Electric vehicle reality check [15:40] techrightssec2 Electrci cars still contribute to traffic congestion and arent' a replacement [15:40] techrightssec2 for excellent or even adequate mass transit. [15:42] schestowitz-TR as soon as the office states tycoon could compel politicians to ignore covid-19 and other issues [15:42] schestowitz-TR they forced millions to commute to the office again, even for jobs that do not strictly require such [15:42] schestowitz-TR travel [15:42] schestowitz-TR maybe we can charge EVs off the body heat of those tycoon [15:42] schestowitz-TR *tycoons [15:42] schestowitz-TR *office estate tycoons [15:42] schestowitz-TR in the uk a lot is foreign-owned as "investment" [15:42] schestowitz-TR so they don't even care about the wellbeing and health of the localsd ● Dec 22 [16:01] techrightssec2 https://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/15/saudi-arabia-buying-up-farmland-in-us-southwest.html [16:01] techrightssec2 https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/11/03/when-saudi-arabia-comes-to-town-and-buys-all-your-water/ [16:01] techrightssec2 https://theintercept.com/2022/11/28/maricopa-supervisors-saudi-lobbyist-thomas-galvin/ [16:01] techrightssec2 (apologies for "Intecept" link) [16:01] techrightssec2 apropos foreign "investors" [16:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cnbc.com | Saudi Arabia buying up farmland in US Southwest [16:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-responsiblestatecraft.org | When Saudi Arabia comes to town and buys all your water - Responsible Statecraft [16:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-theintercept.com | Lobbyist for Saudi Alfalfa Firm Elected as Maricopa Supervisor [16:01] techrightssec2 None of the three have been covered yet, though the topic itself has been [16:01] techrightssec2 covered before on occasion. [16:02] schestowitz-TR I still remember these reports [16:02] schestowitz-TR some might be in TR already" [16:02] schestowitz-TR "Intercept" is Persian propaganda [16:02] schestowitz-TR usually picking on "classic" 'enemies' inc. Israel and KSA [16:02] schestowitz-TR there are reasons why greenwald left in protest [16:02] schestowitz-TR you are free to cover what you want under the Omidyar PAC stands in your way [16:04] techrightssec2 No, I tend to skip "Intercept" because it is not a good, consistent source [16:04] techrightssec2 plus they went out of their way to burn multiple sources. [16:04] techrightssec2 [16:09] schestowitz-TR that too [16:09] schestowitz-TR but the corruption runs deeper [16:09] schestowitz-TR /s/under/until/ [16:09] schestowitz-TR remember what they did with [16:09] schestowitz-TR 1) snowden files [16:09] schestowitz-TR 2) the people with access to (1) [16:09] schestowitz-TR 3) the people did openly complain about what Omidyar did both to (2) and to (1) [16:09] schestowitz-TR Omidyar PAC did some malicious attack pieces on Wikileaks [16:09] schestowitz-TR a lot of Omidyar-funded "journalists" (except maybe Greenwald at the time) [16:09] schestowitz-TR participated in this agenda [16:09] schestowitz-TR it destroyed fredom of the press foundation [16:09] schestowitz-TR co-founder by Barlow and his mate Assnage, IIRC [16:09] schestowitz-TR EFF used to support Wikileaks [16:09] schestowitz-TR nowadays EFF works for brain-damaged maniacs with a twitter account [16:10] schestowitz-TR sometimes I joke to myself that musk is killing twitter to just take that hive off the backs of the [16:10] schestowitz-TR villains du jour [16:10] schestowitz-TR (joke, I think it's just a childish 51-year-old playing with money of his dad (slavery), US [16:10] schestowitz-TR taxpayers, and Saudi head-chopping terrorists who market themselves as progressives) [16:10] schestowitz-TR techwashing, sportwashing etc. [16:10] schestowitz-TR (lukashenko does the same... a pseudo-peasant sold as "batka") [16:10] techrightssec2 [16:10] techrightssec2 Yes, the corruption is thorough there. [16:10] techrightssec2 They also went out of their way to acquire and then bury the Snowden files [16:10] techrightssec2 Those with access seem to have shut down and disappeared. [16:10] techrightssec2 Or twitter-damaged maniacs with an EFF account, more like it [16:11] schestowitz-TR the eff now does some promotion of mastodon [16:11] schestowitz-TR fsf? lol, fsf says nothing [16:11] schestowitz-TR but has a new job opening [16:11] schestowitz-TR john s. has left [16:11] schestowitz-TR but eff just wants its hive to dominate and police the "fediverse" [16:11] schestowitz-TR no "terror" stuff like e2ee [16:11] schestowitz-TR just some crappy "privacy-aware" apple [16:52] techrightssec2 ack ● Dec 22 [17:09] schestowitz-TR good news on upc front [17:09] schestowitz-TR just in time for xmas [17:09] schestowitz-TR I am asking for more details first [17:09] schestowitz-TR going to bed soon [17:12] techrightssec2 ack [17:37] *netter_ (~netter@mii8cedt3f3mk.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:51] schestowitz-TR now we're also all set for 'battle', time-wise ● Dec 22 [18:05] *netter_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Dec 22 [19:59] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Dec 22 [20:21] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 22 [21:03] *_Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-nq6.1mh.2jtbps.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [21:04] *Mio14 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) ● Dec 22 [22:26] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@aufyuh6vuhc7k.irc) has joined #boycottnovell