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| schestowitz | [23:47] <xxxxxxxxxx> hi | May 23 00:15 |
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| schestowitz | [23:49] <xxxxxxxxxx> since i would need an account to post a comment on your site i made a little research for you about pia here | May 23 00:15 |
| schestowitz | [23:49] <xxxxxxxxxx> https://privatebin.net/?d828224370fd1012#7FL3dMhUhvyCuSGz6Lom3SKNUiCwpVouXfdLUav5mcGH | May 23 00:15 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-privatebin.net | PrivateBin | May 23 00:15 | |
| schestowitz | [23:54] <schestowitz> looking into it now | May 23 00:15 |
| schestowitz | [23:57] <schestowitz> "9.Another thing to consider is that before acquisition, Private Internet Access was in debt of over $32 million." | May 23 00:15 |
| schestowitz | [23:57] <schestowitz> This one is interesting | May 23 00:15 |
| schestowitz | [23:59] <schestowitz> a lot of the guilt here is by association | May 23 00:15 |
| schestowitz | [23:59] <schestowitz> so need to be a bit careful | May 23 00:15 |
| schestowitz | [00:00] <schestowitz> next thing you know people will call FSF bad things for taking PIA money | May 23 00:15 |
| schestowitz | [00:00] <schestowitz> the parent company is a cause for concern | May 23 00:15 |
| schestowitz | [00:01] <xxxxxxxxxx> yeah. i don't buy this hostile takeover nonsense but be careful. to me andrew seems like a business man who thinks like a business man | May 23 00:15 |
| schestowitz | [00:03] <schestowitz> much of the rest if less relevant to me (than the owner) | May 23 00:15 |
| schestowitz | [00:03] <schestowitz> or disputes over VPN battles online | May 23 00:15 |
| schestowitz | [00:03] <schestowitz> very common among search engines too | May 23 00:15 |
| schestowitz | [00:03] <xxxxxxxxxx> it's not about making someone look guilty by association it's more like getting an idea of what to expect from someone who does business with scumbags | May 23 00:15 |
| schestowitz | [00:04] <schestowitz> Kape? | May 23 00:15 |
| schestowitz | [00:04] <schestowitz> or PIA? | May 23 00:15 |
| schestowitz | [00:04] <xxxxxxxxxx> kape and mark karpeles | May 23 00:15 |
| schestowitz | [00:04] <xxxxxxxxxx> no-one can defend that | May 23 00:16 |
| schestowitz | [00:07] <schestowitz> the bribery thing is very old | May 23 00:16 |
| schestowitz | [00:07] <schestowitz> he was about 25 | May 23 00:16 |
| schestowitz | [00:07] <schestowitz> looking into karpeles | May 23 00:16 |
| schestowitz | [00:08] <xxxxxxxxxx> dude. the bribery thing is just a trivia | May 23 00:16 |
| schestowitz | [00:08] <schestowitz> Kape buys lots of shitty software/malware stuff | May 23 00:16 |
| schestowitz | [00:09] <schestowitz> karpeles is CTO now? | May 23 00:16 |
| schestowitz | [00:10] <xxxxxxxxxx> yes | May 23 00:16 |
| schestowitz | [00:11] <xxxxxxxxxx> since 2018/9 | May 23 00:16 |
| schestowitz | [00:12] <schestowitz> the concern is that wealth is being faked | May 23 00:16 |
| schestowitz | [00:12] <schestowitz> and lavish lifestyle with expensive mansions and all | May 23 00:16 |
| schestowitz | [00:13] <schestowitz> i'll keep that in mind, thanks | May 23 00:16 |
| schestowitz | [00:14] <xxxxxxxxxx> interesting.. | May 23 00:16 |
| schestowitz | [00:14] <xxxxxxxxxx> ok | May 23 00:16 |
| schestowitz | [00:29] <xxxxxxxxx> the thing here is.. you cannot claim to care about end user privacy if you have no problem with selling your company to scammers and data miners | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:30] <xxxxxxxxx> tbh i expect sketchy shit on freenode in that regard | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:30] <schestowitz> Kape owns lots of things | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:30] <schestowitz> if we cherry-pick, then yes, it looks bad | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:30] <schestowitz> like gambling and malware | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:31] <schestowitz> worst case scenario, IRC is less private, but IRC was never a privacy protocol | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:33] <xxxxxxxxx> that's not the point | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:34] <schestowitz> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teddy_Sagi#Kape_Technologies_plc | May 23 00:43 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Teddy Sagi - Wikipedia | May 23 00:43 | |
| schestowitz | [00:35] <xxxxxxxxx> yeah check the malwarebytes link | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:36] <schestowitz> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Internet_Access | May 23 00:43 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Private Internet Access - Wikipedia | May 23 00:43 | |
| schestowitz | [00:36] <schestowitz> "On November 18, 2019, Private Internet Access announced that it would be merged into Kape Technologies, which operates two competing VPN services, Cyberghost and Zenmate.[9] Some users objected to the acquisition, as Kape (under its former name, Crossrider) previously developed browser toolbars bundled with potentially unwanted programs.[5]" | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:37] <xxxxxxxxx> yeah what a schizophrenic situation | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:37] <xxxxxxxxx> you mine data with one company | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:37] <schestowitz> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Journal | May 23 00:43 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Linux Journal - Wikipedia | May 23 00:43 | |
| schestowitz | [00:37] <schestowitz> "However, on January 1, 2018, it announced that it was rescued by Private Internet Access/London Trust Media—which shares similar values—and that the magazine plans to grow:[11] According to editor-in-chief Doc Searls: "Linux Journal should be to Linux what National Geographic is to geography and The New Yorker is to New York—meaning about much more than the title alone suggests."[12]" | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:37] <xxxxxxxxx> and protect data with the second one | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:37] <schestowitz> a bit like startpage/system1 | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:38] <schestowitz> what would be their 'endgame' re IRC? | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:38] <schestowitz> hard to envision standing to gain anything by burying it | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:39] <xxxxxxxxx> i expect that andrew will try to monetize the platform somehow | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:39] <schestowitz> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21612488 | May 23 00:43 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.ycombinator.com | PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your Concerns | Hacker News | May 23 00:43 | |
| schestowitz | [00:39] <xxxxxxxxx> which will fail | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:39] <xxxxxxxxx> and the network will slowly succumb into irrelevancy | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:40] <schestowitz> nothing to gain from such an outcome | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:41] <schestowitz> I think they just use IRC to promote PIA | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:41] <xxxxxxxxx> the open source projects are leaving, and once the prestige of the network is gone and he realizes he can't make money with it either | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:41] <xxxxxxxxx> he will not fund it anymore | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:41] <schestowitz> few left | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:41] <schestowitz> some think aboyt it | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:42] <xxxxxxxxx> that's wishful thinking. lots of them left | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:42] <schestowitz> I saw few | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:42] <schestowitz> anyway, I g2g | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:42] <schestowitz> speak later | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | >> There was a temporary issue, also with Twitter exports. Is it OK now? | May 23 01:11 |
| schestowitz | > Yeah, I see posts from you again. Phew! | May 23 01:11 |
| schestowitz | > | May 23 01:11 |
| schestowitz | > I'm glad it was just a software glitch. | May 23 01:11 |
| schestowitz | " | May 23 01:24 |
| schestowitz | Been following you on fediverse for a while, and also on techright. | May 23 01:24 |
| schestowitz | :) | May 23 01:24 |
| schestowitz | " | May 23 01:24 |
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| schestowitz__ | openssl s_client -servername techrights -connect techrights.org:443 | openssl x509 -noout -date | May 23 06:23 |
| schestowitz__ | I have made a new self-sign cert, valid for one year | May 23 06:28 |
| schestowitz__ | *signed | May 23 06:42 |
| schestowitz__ | because some people access over https and get alarmed by expiry date | May 23 06:42 |
| schestowitz__ | I don't want to use those urls or outsourced to LF | May 23 06:42 |
| Techrights-sec | Chromium still rejects the cert though. It might be that self-signed certs | May 23 06:45 |
| Techrights-sec | are not really supported any longer by Google | May 23 06:45 |
| Techrights-sec | NET::ERR_CERT_AUTHORITY_INVALID | May 23 06:46 |
| schestowitz__ | [13:55] <MinceR> migrating from billsez to nadellasez? :> | May 23 06:47 |
| schestowitz__ | well spotted there. | May 23 06:47 |
| schestowitz__ | The writer is a longtime Microsoft shill | May 23 06:47 |
| schestowitz__ | he used to be in VentureBeat IIRC | May 23 06:47 |
| Techrights-sec | CNBC also had a similar puff piece. I guess they are going to shift | May 23 06:50 |
| Techrights-sec | to Satya from Bill. I wonder if the move is temporary. | May 23 06:50 |
| Techrights-sec | \ | May 23 06:50 |
| schestowitz__ | " | May 23 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | I have checked everyone in past and present logs, seeing that no 5xx errors were emitted, but then again I also checked CloudFlare everywhere, seeing that about 95% of the traffic comes from there, not the xxxxx servers. | May 23 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | Upon investigation I found that https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003011431-Troubleshooting-Cloudflare-5XX-errors | May 23 07:42 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-support.cloudflare.com | Troubleshooting Cloudflare 5XX errors – Cloudflare Help Center | May 23 07:42 | |
| schestowitz__ | which leads to https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/200172476#h_4b8753c8-f422-4c74-9e8e-07026c4da730 | May 23 07:42 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-support.cloudflare.com | Contacting Cloudflare Support – Cloudflare Help Center | May 23 07:42 | |
| schestowitz__ | This might in fact be a support issue with Cloudflare. The issue might in fact be at their end. | May 23 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | Maybe we should further exclude Cloudflare for logged in admins or the admin stuff/section? | May 23 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | It's hard to diagnose unless Cloudflare gives us access to any logs. I tried for ages to find "Error Analytics", which is apparently under their Support section somewhere. | May 23 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | I will carry on trying things for a while... | May 23 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | " | May 23 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | (from work | May 23 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | cloudflare is a mess | May 23 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | too opaque | May 23 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | outsourced hosting | May 23 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | " | May 23 07:49 |
| schestowitz__ | Good morning, | May 23 07:49 |
| schestowitz__ | I've investigated this at the AWS back end and at Cloudflare. It seems possible that this boils down to the CDN/proxy having internal issues reaching the back end properly because at the back end we cannot see any 5xx responses (in the past few days). | May 23 07:49 |
| schestowitz__ | When you are presented with "Error 500" is it a Cloudflare-themed page (with green and red rounds, ticks and Xs) or something else? | May 23 07:49 |
| schestowitz__ | " | May 23 07:49 |
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| Techrights-sec | https://nitter.cc/CellMessenger/status/1396345366224805888#m | May 23 09:19 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.cc | Messenger Cell (@CellMessenger): "the gates bullshit philanthropy organisation exposed for what it really is - a tax avoidant control network to reshape all our lives http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique" | nitter | May 23 09:19 | |
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| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/05/can-trade-mark-become-misleading.html?showComment=1621632490982#c5116960291415150682 | May 23 16:50 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Can a trade mark become misleading because it is transferred to a new owner? It’s all a matter of tradition - The IPKat | May 23 16:50 | |
| schestowitz | " | May 23 16:50 |
| schestowitz | If I am not mistaken, the old EUTMR 207/2009 would have probably prevented this misleading transfer from happening in the first place. Well, it is true that the Austrian Supreme Court does not consider the transfer itself to be misleading but rather the use of the new owner. Nevertheless, the old article 17.4 stated: | May 23 16:50 |
| schestowitz | "Where it is clear from the transfer documents that because of the transfer the Community trade mark is likely to mislead the public concerning the nature, quality or geographical origin of the goods or services in respect of which it is registered, the Office shall not register the transfer unless the successor agrees to limit registration of the Community trade mark to goods or services in respect of which it is not likely to | May 23 16:50 |
| schestowitz | mislead." | May 23 16:50 |
| schestowitz | I am curious about why this requirement disappeared in the current EUTMR 2017/1001 regarding transfers (article 20). It is still present in the Spanish trademark law. If anyone knows the background of this particular amendment I would be very happy to learn about it. | May 23 16:50 |
| schestowitz | " | May 23 16:50 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | https://nitter.cc/ariadneconill/status/1396516526782656516#m | May 23 19:15 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.cc | Ariadne Conill (@ariadneconill): "thats why techrights is doing it, andrew convinced roy he is being CANCELLED" | nitter | May 23 19:15 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/appwrite_io/status/1396498481515274249 | May 23 19:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@appwrite_io: @schestowitz Thanks for helping spread the word @schestowitz ❤️😍 | May 23 19:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1396439330474835970 | May 23 19:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: how sick can you get? #murica https://t.co/6ZNHgb7906 | May 23 19:49 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #CommonDreams #SouthCarolina ☞ Opinion | Tough Choices https://t.co/qudH5SVwr7 | May 23 19:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1396340502421778432 | May 23 19:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz SACEPO is being run by BusinessEurope, what could go wrong? | May 23 19:49 | |
| MinceR | i have difficulty taking someone's word seriously who has signed the anti-RMS letter, posts anti-RMS propaganda on twitter and has referred to LF and SFC as "reputable" | May 23 20:06 |
| MinceR | we need a better host | May 23 20:06 |
| MinceR | > it's rms open letter time all over again | May 23 20:29 |
| MinceR | another SJW who is trying to destroy free software | May 23 20:29 |
| MinceR | "jan Lentan (a.k.a. “/dev/urandom”)" has also signed the anti-RMS letter | May 23 20:29 |
| MinceR | apparently the "woke" perspective of free software is "we want microsoft and IBM to control the FSF, take over everything that had its copyright assigned to the FSF and write a GPLv4 that lets microsoft and IBM to do whatever they like with any code licensed as any version of GPL 'or later'" | May 23 20:31 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | https://nitter.cc/RexKahrs1/status/1396569243483705346#m | May 23 23:13 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.cc | President Elect - rexkahrs (@RexKahrs1): "Unconfirmed: http://techrights.org/2020/08/04/police-report-gates-residence-arrest/" | nitter | May 23 23:13 | |
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