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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/TheJigisUp10/status/1297320987206148096Aug 23 01:04
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/EverybodyWiki/status/1297286387377434624Aug 23 01:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@EverybodyWiki: @schestowitz Tired of being rejected from Wikipedia ? 😥 Create easily your bio 👨👩 or any article on @EverybodyWiki… https://t.co/ANsNHbHne1Aug 23 01:04
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AtenVentures/status/1297286386496626688Aug 23 01:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AtenVentures: @schestowitz Hellloooo! You can reach out to us we have a large data base of SaaS and service providers, do email c… https://t.co/8XWDyF9g9pAug 23 01:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AtenVentures: @schestowitz Hellloooo! You can reach out to us we have a large data base of SaaS and service providers, do email c… https://t.co/8XWDyF9g9pAug 23 01:04
schestowitz"Hellloooo! You can reach out to us we have a large data base of SaaS and service providers, do email consulting@atenventures.comRegards, Suraj  http://tinyurl.com/y3yc6f65"Aug 23 01:04
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/linuxplayer9/status/1297243401776246790Aug 23 01:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@linuxplayer9: @schestowitz @LlnuxBot What has changed ?Aug 23 01:05
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rosammat/status/1297224181491200000Aug 23 01:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@rosammat: @paranjoygt @cpimspeak One CPI-M Maharashtra discussion on education policy was stalled as page was removed?… https://t.co/HlEFmOwSghAug 23 01:05
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schestowitz One CPI-M Maharashtra discussion on education policy was stalled as page was removed? @SitaramYechuryAug 23 01:06
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/elischerafrica/status/1297218427304783872Aug 23 01:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@elischerafrica: #Mali I disagree. I think some governments do not want to control the allegedly „vast areas“. Also, Mali is not the… https://t.co/0NJbayzeknAug 23 01:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@elischerafrica: #Mali I disagree. I think some governments do not want to control the allegedly „vast areas“. Also, Mali is not the… https://t.co/0NJbayzeknAug 23 01:06
schestowitz"#Mali I disagree. I think some governments do not want to control the allegedly „vast areas“. Also, Mali is not the Sahel."Aug 23 01:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/stautistic/status/1297218336464371713Aug 23 01:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@stautistic: @schestowitz They also have no moral compass. https://t.co/f2JrmwhKA2Aug 23 01:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@pw_cunningham: Uh, yeah. It's called paid advertising. It's how newspapers have paid the salaries of reporters like you and me for… https://t.co/vM9EvprxP3Aug 23 01:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jlboul/status/1297210385280507908Aug 23 01:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jlboul: @schestowitz Heard one national networking report apparently quoting Russian doctor who alleged said Mr. Navalny co… https://t.co/a4ydKzSmTsAug 23 01:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jlboul: @schestowitz Heard one national networking report apparently quoting Russian doctor who alleged said Mr. Navalny co… https://t.co/a4ydKzSmTsAug 23 01:07
schestowitz"Heard one national networking report apparently quoting Russian doctor who alleged said Mr. Navalny could have also suffered from low blood sugar possibly. I am not making this up."Aug 23 01:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SENDEROPRESS/status/1297173574743023616Aug 23 01:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SENDEROPRESS: Very important to know.!!!! Importante conocer esta capacidad perdida. #QuedateEnCasa #StayAtHome https://t.co/iy4WDdIucOAug 23 01:15
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schestowitzVery important to know.!!!!Aug 23 01:15
schestowitzImportante conocer esta capacidad perdida.Aug 23 01:15
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schestowitz #StayAtHomeAug 23 01:16
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schestowitzperiment to track violent crime numbers and gun sales as wehttps://hackaday.com/2020/08/22/fbi-reports-on-linux-drovorub-malware/Aug 23 02:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-hackaday.com | FBI Reports On Linux Drovorub Malware | HackadayAug 23 02:15
schestowitzhttps://hackaday.com/2020/08/22/fbi-reports-on-linux-drovorub-malware/Aug 23 02:15
schestowitz> Still editing but you should get the gist. Will publish on Monday. Aug 23 07:43
schestowitzI spotted one "it's" instead of "its"Aug 23 07:44
schestowitzLet me know when it's done as I want to show what frauds Gartner are (again).Aug 23 07:44
schestowitz> these confirm a LOT of what ive said for a long time. i had severalAug 23 08:31
schestowitz> (various) reasons to say these things, based on my own years-longAug 23 08:31
schestowitz> assessments of too many items to mention-- though these leaks mayAug 23 08:31
schestowitz> outweigh (and bolster) them all.Aug 23 08:31
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:31
schestowitz> when i call open source a scam, im not kidding. it scammed me, itAug 23 08:31
schestowitz> scammed bruce perens, it scams the tech world. its bogus.Aug 23 08:31
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:31
schestowitz> i agree with most of these leaks. because i write small code forAug 23 08:31
schestowitz> beginners, i often use licensing for that code that the fsf considersAug 23 08:31
schestowitz> appropriate for that-- always a free (and gpl-compatible) license. i doAug 23 08:31
schestowitz> this for cultural works (like articles) as well.Aug 23 08:31
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:31
schestowitz> since rms was ousted, ive used gpl3 more often, vs other licenses. thisAug 23 08:31
schestowitz> is both to experiment with the idea, and to show support for it at aAug 23 08:31
schestowitz> time when free software is doing badly, and due to writing longerAug 23 08:31
schestowitz> amounts of code than i used to.Aug 23 08:31
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:31
schestowitz> i never wrote a 1000 loc program really, prior to 2015 or so. so thats aAug 23 08:32
schestowitz> new thing for me. i dont do it often. but there are times i choose gpl3Aug 23 08:32
schestowitz> purely to show support for gpl3-- because i know nobody is actuallyAug 23 08:32
schestowitz> interested in the code.Aug 23 08:32
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:32
schestowitz> occasionally teaching beginners, i try to both inform them of the bestAug 23 08:32
schestowitz> decisions to make (why use gpl3-- when its the most important) and iAug 23 08:32
schestowitz> also make it easier on them with small amounts code that areAug 23 08:32
schestowitz> permissively licensed. but i have always considered the fsf position onAug 23 08:32
schestowitz> that-- the leak says it used to be > 150 loc, they officially say < 300Aug 23 08:32
schestowitz> now. thats the fsf itself. i dont think the change was recent, its beenAug 23 08:32
schestowitz> 300 loc for a while.Aug 23 08:32
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:32
schestowitz> MOST IMPORTANTLY HOWEVER-- i am very aware of the fact that esrAug 23 08:32
schestowitz> specifically and osi and broadly, open source has pushed for code beingAug 23 08:32
schestowitz> MORE permissive, and that rms is concerned about copylefted projectsAug 23 08:32
schestowitz> being replaced with permissive ones (such as clang, and apple movingAug 23 08:32
schestowitz> away from bash).Aug 23 08:32
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:32
schestowitz> i have (for years) made people aware of this threat, which is why itAug 23 08:32
schestowitz> hurts to have someone say otherwise. i consider it not exclusively, butAug 23 08:32
schestowitz> most relevant to the gnu project and other significant (mainstream) freeAug 23 08:32
schestowitz> software projects. if a project of mine gained importance and the freeAug 23 08:32
schestowitz> software community cared about it at all, i would (as ive advisedAug 23 08:32
schestowitz> others) strongly consider moving future versions to the gpl3 "or later".Aug 23 08:32
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:32
schestowitz> the gnu project does that with good reason.Aug 23 08:32
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:32
schestowitz> but i only stress this because of recent misunderstandings-- the broaderAug 23 08:32
schestowitz> issue here is open source vs free software.Aug 23 08:32
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:32
schestowitz> its been over 10 years since i left open source in disgust, and startedAug 23 08:32
schestowitz> calling myself a free software advocate-- and warning people about theAug 23 08:32
schestowitz> bullshit that open source foists on people.Aug 23 08:32
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:32
schestowitz> im not a hardass about what people call it, but as ive said many times,Aug 23 08:32
schestowitz> i consider it a bit of of a shibboleth-- people who say free softwareAug 23 08:32
schestowitz> and "gnu" tend to care more about your freedom. people who say "openAug 23 08:32
schestowitz> source" and drop the gnu will often betray you later. ive said that forAug 23 08:32
schestowitz> years, with good reason.Aug 23 08:32
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:33
schestowitz> given that, these new leaks are PRICELESS. theyre of incredible value.Aug 23 08:33
schestowitz> call them the new halloween documents. (thanksgiving documents? winterAug 23 08:33
schestowitz> season documents?)Aug 23 08:33
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:33
schestowitz> open source has (as ive said) really followed the trajectory of theAug 23 08:33
schestowitz> halloween documents themselves. thats why its so peculiar that a founderAug 23 08:33
schestowitz> hosts them still, and that they were hosted on the website. osi isAug 23 08:33
schestowitz> everything-- everything, that the halloween documents warned us about.Aug 23 08:33
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:33
schestowitz> so is gnome.Aug 23 08:33
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:33
schestowitz> mako was right. but given that gnu drags itself towards github, that (asAug 23 08:33
schestowitz> ive said) the fsf itself is becoming more "open"-- dont stop here. fsfeAug 23 08:33
schestowitz> is worse, by far-- i think pocock made that clear to me already (heAug 23 08:33
schestowitz> hasnt stressed a comparison, i simply compare what he knows of fsfe withAug 23 08:33
schestowitz> what i know of fsf.)Aug 23 08:33
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:33
schestowitz> but the fsf is doing it too. this is the bigger threat, and since pocockAug 23 08:33
schestowitz> started talking about fsfe, i figured it only lent credence to the fsfAug 23 08:33
schestowitz> takeover, that we had even more evidence of the takeover of the fsfe.Aug 23 08:33
schestowitz> the takeover of osi is well documented.Aug 23 08:33
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:33
schestowitz> marcia wilburs recent graphic is also relevant.Aug 23 08:33
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:33
schestowitz> osi is worse than fsfe is worse than fsf, but thats as it should be.Aug 23 08:33
schestowitz> microsoft, through osi, then fsfe then fsf, is becoming more of aAug 23 08:33
schestowitz> problem. this is how corruption works-- it spreads. we know where from.Aug 23 08:33
schestowitz> ibm clearly plays a role as well.Aug 23 08:33
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:33
schestowitz> open source is a scam. if it wasnt from day one, i have triedAug 23 08:33
schestowitz> unsuccessfully for years to find the point when it flipped. what an oddAug 23 08:33
schestowitz> duck indeed.Aug 23 08:33
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:33
schestowitz> all this talk of narcissism, that was originally about open source. itAug 23 08:33
schestowitz> is a very, very narcissistic (and dishonest) endeavour. like so manyAug 23 08:33
schestowitz> things, it steals from the public and gives to people who already haveAug 23 08:33
schestowitz> everything. indefensible, outrageous, dishonest, and immoral.Aug 23 08:33
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:33
schestowitz> not to mention an enormous power grab, at a cost to all humanity-- andAug 23 08:33
schestowitz> basic human rights (privacy, freedom of speech) as well. esr is not aAug 23 08:34
schestowitz> real libertarian. he doesnt care about freedom. thats true of many,Aug 23 08:34
schestowitz> sadly. hes a liar. whether out of pride or actually being evil, hesAug 23 08:34
schestowitz> allowed the scam and unlike bruce-- never really spoke against it.Aug 23 08:34
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:34
schestowitz> i dont think bruce did enough, but the efforts he did make are worthy ofAug 23 08:34
schestowitz> mention-- both to illustrate the cost of open source to the world, andAug 23 08:34
schestowitz> to illustrate him as a person. these days i think it still falls aAug 23 08:34
schestowitz> little short.Aug 23 08:34
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:34
schestowitz> great, great stuff. is there really more?Aug 23 08:34
schestowitzThere is a lot more. I am trying to get some help in IRC to speed up the writing.Aug 23 08:34
schestowitz>> great, great stuff. is there really more?Aug 23 08:34
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:34
schestowitz> there was/is, right after i sent this! (more for other recipient thanAug 23 08:34
schestowitz> you, but also so you dont have to tell me yourself)Aug 23 08:34
schestowitzRe: DEB NICHOLSON IS AT OSI?!Aug 23 08:41
schestowitz> WHOA!Aug 23 08:41
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:41
schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2020/08/09/different-circumstancesAug 23 08:41
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | I Would Have Supported the Coup (Under Very Different Circumstances) | TechrightsAug 23 08:41
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:41
schestowitz>         December 2018Aug 23 08:41
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:41
schestowitz> A petition was created during or after LibrePlanet 2018 (an FSF-hostedAug 23 08:41
schestowitz> and FSF-organised event) calling for rms to be held to LibrePlanet’sAug 23 08:41
schestowitz> safe space rules.Aug 23 08:41
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:41
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:41
schestowitz> ---Aug 23 08:41
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:41
schestowitz> (2019)Aug 23 08:41
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:41
schestowitz> The executive director of GNOME (*who had also signed the LibrePlanetAug 23 08:41
schestowitz> petition*) used the GNOME blog to attack rms in light of these events.Aug 23 08:41
schestowitz> The Software Freedom Conservancy issued a statement calling for hisAug 23 08:41
schestowitz> resignation.Aug 23 08:41
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:41
schestowitz> https://wwahammy.com/on-safety-at-libreplanet/Aug 23 08:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-wwahammy.com | Is LibrePlanet Safe?Aug 23 08:42
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:42
schestowitz> Full list:Aug 23 08:42
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:42
schestowitz> Asheesh LaroiaAug 23 08:42
schestowitz> Bassam KurdaliAug 23 08:42
schestowitz> (signed later Guix petition) Christopher Lemmer WebberAug 23 08:42
schestowitz> (fsf award winner) *Deb NicholsonAug 23 08:42
schestowitz> *Denver GingerichAug 23 08:42
schestowitz> Eric SchultzAug 23 08:42
schestowitz> Kade CrockfordAug 23 08:42
schestowitz> Mad Price BallAug 23 08:42
schestowitz> Matthew GarrettAug 23 08:42
schestowitz> (creative commons) Mike LinksvayerAug 23 08:42
schestowitz> Morgan Lemmer-WebberAug 23 08:42
schestowitz> (gnome) Neil McGovernAug 23 08:42
schestowitz> Paul R. TagliamonteAug 23 08:42
schestowitz> (debian dpl) Stefano ZacchiroliAug 23 08:42
schestowitz> Sumana HarihareswaraAug 23 08:42
schestowitz> Tom CallawayAug 23 08:42
schestowitz> Tom MarbleAug 23 08:42
schestowitz> Wendy BolmAug 23 08:42
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:42
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:42
schestowitz>         Late 2019 and/or early 2020, OngoingAug 23 08:42
schestowitz> Aug 23 08:42
schestowitz> *The GNU wiki hosts a call for a “social contract”* for the GNU Project,Aug 23 08:42
schestowitz> *not unlike the safe space rules that led to the LibrePlanet petition*,Aug 23 08:42
schestowitz> with a list of supporters / endorsements that overlaps mostly with theAug 23 08:42
schestowitz> list of people on the Guix petition.Aug 23 08:42
schestowitzI am going to publish more leaks today, if time permits. If you can write about the above or add to wiki, it would help. Aug 23 08:42
schestowitzWow. What a betrayal.Aug 23 08:42
schestowitzSPAM x https://www.pcworld.com/article/3572290/microsoft-flight-simulator-will-spur-billions-in-pc-hardware-sales.htmlAug 23 10:47
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.pcworld.com | How Microsoft Flight Simulator could spur 'billions' in PC hardware sales | PCWorldAug 23 10:47
schestowitz# lock-inAug 23 10:47
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/michaelgraaf/status/1297541188409532418Aug 23 15:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@michaelgraaf: Microsoft continues buying off its critics... https://t.co/SeZedzZ8RJAug 23 15:33
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schestowitz> Hi Roy,Aug 23 22:17
schestowitz> Aug 23 22:17
schestowitz> Patreon has allowed me to run GOL full-time, so yeah people definitelyAug 23 22:17
schestowitz> use it. I would suggest combining it with other methods like LiberapayAug 23 22:17
schestowitz> and PayPal donations too, as together it can do well. The key withAug 23 22:17
schestowitz> Patreon is that it has a bigger community of people registered on it, soAug 23 22:17
schestowitz> people are more likely to use it to fund multiple creators. Patreon isAug 23 22:17
schestowitz> also expanding to accept multiple currencies too, so it might end upAug 23 22:17
schestowitz> even better.Aug 23 22:17
schestowitz> Aug 23 22:18
schestowitz> The key thing is though: make it worth their while. For GOL, people knowAug 23 22:18
schestowitz> they fund it to have very regular content and zero adverts, noAug 23 22:18
schestowitz> clickbait, no timed articles, occasional early access to stuff, keyAug 23 22:18
schestowitz> giveaways and so on. You need a hook. Just setting one up and tellAug 23 22:18
schestowitz> people is not enough.Aug 23 22:18
schestowitz> Aug 23 22:18
schestowitz> All the best mate.Aug 23 22:18
schestowitzThanks for these tips.Aug 23 22:18
schestowitzI'll read them carefully several times.Aug 23 22:18
schestowitzWe do link to GOL a lot. Almost no other sites cover that topic/domain.Aug 23 22:18
schestowitz> Hi, thanks for linking to us :)Aug 23 22:25
schestowitz> Aug 23 22:25
schestowitz> If you need any other advice on funding, reach out any time. I alwaysAug 23 22:25
schestowitz> try to be as approachable as possible.Aug 23 22:25
schestowitzAt the moment my wife and I work from home at nights, so we're not so dependent on additional funding. But circumstances can change.Aug 23 22:25
schestowitzLet's touch base every now and then; we like GOL a lot.Aug 23 22:25
schestowitz> Yeah, always good to have a backup plan for sure. The pandemic certainlyAug 23 22:30
schestowitz> put that into focus.Aug 23 22:30
schestowitz> Aug 23 22:30
schestowitz> Sure, reach out again :)Aug 23 22:30
schestowitz> GreatAug 23 22:31
schestowitz> Aug 23 22:31
schestowitz> They don't do this stuff spontaneously, there is always a connectionAug 23 22:31
schestowitz> between:Aug 23 22:31
schestowitz> Aug 23 22:31
schestowitz> a) the money coming in from Google and MicrosoftAug 23 22:32
schestowitz> Aug 23 22:32
schestowitz> b) the people they troll and attackAug 23 22:32
schestowitz> Aug 23 22:32
schestowitz> I notice you reply from s@schestowitz.com but that UID is not in yourAug 23 22:32
schestowitz> PGP key.  Consequently, my email client wants to download the key or IAug 23 22:32
schestowitz> have to manually change the recipient addressAug 23 22:32
schestowitzThis is deliberate. I didn't chain several addresses to the latest key. One receives the lion's share of spam. The other one is more private.Aug 23 22:32
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