●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, August 23, 2022 ●● ● Aug 23 [01:08] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [01:09] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@ncj8rsn4wx828.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 23 [06:00] schestowitz-TR2 (NEW): Introducing Venus, a new world for Perl 5 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/23/Introducing_Venus_a_new_world_for_Perl_5.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/23/Introducing_Venus_a_new_world_for_Perl_5.gmi [06:00] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Introducing Venus, a new world for Perl 5" [06:35] schestowitz-TR2 Reddit is dying based on this graph https://gs.statcounter.com/social-media-stats#monthly-200901-202208 [06:35] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gs.statcounter.com | Social Media Stats Worldwide | Statcounter Global Stats ● Aug 23 [08:04] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:41] schestowitz-TR2 (NEW): 9 Best Free and Open Source Perl Static Site Generators https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/23/9_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Perl_Static_Site_Generators.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/23/9_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Perl_Static_Site_Generators.gmi [08:41] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines 9 Best Free and Open Source Perl Static Site Generators ● Aug 23 [09:09] schestowitz-TR2 "This is about the gathering crisis in the UK, not any other crisis-hit nation." http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2022/08/the-gathering-crisis.html [09:09] schestowitz-TR2 -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.antipope.org | The gathering crisis - Charlie's Diary [09:09] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.antipope.org | The gathering crisis - Charlie's Diary [09:09] schestowitz-TR2 "Brexit hasn't delivered trade opportunities, but mountains of red tape, with a hit to the economy estimated at roughly 6% so far. But the UK economy already shrank 11% in 2020, the worst year since 1709." http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2022/08/the-gathering-crisis.html [09:09] schestowitz-TR2 "The health service is in crisis. Inflation is wiping out pensions and savings. A general strike seems possible by the end of the year, something that hasn't hit the UK since 1926." http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2022/08/the-gathering-crisis.html [09:09] schestowitz-TR2 This would be absolutely disastrous for people who host from home https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-business-industry-energy-europe-france-winter/ [09:09] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.politico.eu | Faltering French connection leaves UK fearing winter blackouts POLITICO [09:43] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:43] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Aug 23 [10:09] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [10:10] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:19] *rianne_ (~rianne@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:19] *asusbox (~rianne@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:24] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:44] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[10:50] schestowitz-TR2 I'm reminded of the Theresa May "mexican wave" 'incident'; when BoJo does it, it's funny, when she does it we mock it [10:50] schestowitz-TR2 veiled gender discrimination; same for clothing and being promiscuous [10:58] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell ● Aug 23 [11:02] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:08] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@7r5rxbrvtz8g4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:11] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [11:12] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@tpkwt2zbddvz6.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:22] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [11:23] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:51] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [11:58] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [11:58] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 23 [12:16] schestowitz-TR2 I will record re the topic you suggested [12:16] schestowitz-TR2 after Daily Links [12:16] schestowitz-TR2 spamnil no activity in 4 days [12:17] schestowitz-TR2 maybe they took some action [12:17] schestowitz-TR2 rianne's bday tomorrow [12:17] schestowitz-TR2 hard to think of safe-from-covid activities, except in open spaces or very empty tram [12:17] schestowitz-TR2 re the above article (uk state), I think he cherry-picks the worst of the worst [12:17] schestowitz-TR2 from conversations I've had, we're still nowhere as bad as elsewhere [12:17] schestowitz-TR2 it's a global thing [12:17] schestowitz-TR2 even finland and switzerland have those same issues [12:17] Techrights-sec ack [12:21] schestowitz-TR2 there are many sayings about fooling oneself [12:21] schestowitz-TR2 I cannot think of just one [12:21] schestowitz-TR2 a dear old friend asked me yesterday re covid numbers [12:21] schestowitz-TR2 concerned that the media is not covering it [12:21] schestowitz-TR2 I then pointed to my blog [12:21] schestowitz-TR2 rememeber the media also pretended it was just some 'chinese problem' until early 2020 [12:21] schestowitz-TR2 when deaths and admissions were starting to overencumber hospitals [12:21] schestowitz-TR2 and morgues [12:21] schestowitz-TR2 someone came to our irc channel floating BS trheories [12:21] schestowitz-TR2 but also said it was insane that airports had placed no restrictions st all [12:21] schestowitz-TR2 in retrospect, nz dealt with it well [12:21] schestowitz-TR2 being an island too [12:22] Techrights-sec yes it was allowed to grow, kind of on purpose [12:27] schestowitz-TR2 I'd say conflating apathy with "on purpose" is active versus passive [12:27] schestowitz-TR2 it was passively accepted, to keep the "next immediate quarter" OK [12:27] schestowitz-TR2 that's how businesses operate [12:27] schestowitz-TR2 the travel industry does not care about piling of people 80+ [12:27] schestowitz-TR2 in 'mass graves' or rather crematoriums [12:27] schestowitz-TR2 they're customers that won't be coming back for many years to come anyway [12:27] schestowitz-TR2 and maybe are not permitted to travel anyway (joint issues, wheel chairs) [12:27] mjg59_ NZ dealt with covid fine until this year and then utterly fucked it up [12:27] schestowitz-TR2 my mom is comign to that point (sore knees after long-distance travel) [12:27] schestowitz-TR2 to the point of limiting the travel [12:27] schestowitz-TR2 that najes walking very hard afterwards, got to respect that... [12:27] schestowitz-TR2 after many got shots [12:27] schestowitz-TR2 esp. the very vulnerable [12:29] schestowitz__[TR] https://www.health.govt.nz/news-media [12:29] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.health.govt.nz | News & media | Ministry of Health NZ [12:29] schestowitz__[TR] https://www.health.govt.nz/news-media/news-items [12:30] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.health.govt.nz | News items | Ministry of Health NZ [12:32] schestowitz__[TR] https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/new-zealand/ [12:32] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.worldometers.info | New Zealand COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer [12:32] schestowitz__[TR] I see now [12:32] schestowitz__[TR] you're right [12:32] schestowitz__[TR] I didn't notice [12:35] mjg59_ Yeah turns out I usually am riht [12:39] schestowitz-TR2 so called "media" stopped reportsing on covid [12:39] schestowitz-TR2 so it's hard to know what happens where [12:39] schestowitz-TR2 unless one chases the figures [12:40] schestowitz-TR2 and even then they're usualyl incomplete or biased, or both ● Aug 23 [13:02] schestowitz-TR2 Linux Foundation and its ilk (i.e. proprietary companies) are actively spreading FUD against "Open Source", which they're merely trying to control. This is little but a FUDfest, hardly a summary of news. https://www.linuxinsider.com/story/coding-vulnerabilities-linux-growth-foss-friction-cap-summer-highlights-176640.html [13:02] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linuxinsider.com | Coding Vulnerabilities, Linux Growth, FOSS Friction Cap Summer Highlights [13:02] schestowitz-TR2 hallmark of the shittiness of "the news" [13:03] schestowitz-TR2 Linux foundation = we let you borrow the name "Linux" to use it to attack things [13:03] Techrights-sec ack [13:04] schestowitz-TR2 Clued up people have all along said that phone number requirement in Signal was a disaster waiting to happen, a blunder in the making https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/08/signal-phone-numbers-exposed-in-twilio-hack.html [13:04] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Signal Phone Numbers Exposed in Twilio Hack - Schneier on Security [13:10] Techrights-sec phone numbers as IDs have so many things wrong that it is shocking that [13:10] Techrights-sec they are being considered for such use [13:10] schestowitz-TR2 eff-approved, unlike pgp [13:10] schestowitz-TR2 they also shill microsoft DDG [13:10] schestowitz-TR2 go figure... [13:11] Techrights-sec :( [13:50] schestowitz-TR2 Techrights article on Microsoft DuckDuckGo now in Russian gemini://phreedom.club/~tolstoevsky/articles/2022-08-23-ddg.gmi [13:59] schestowitz-TR2 Reddit = censorship, even DMCA aside https://torrentfreak.com/reddits-dmca-removals-surged-15000-in-five-years-220821/ | Source: Torrent Freak [13:59] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Reddit's DMCA Removals Surged 15,000% in Five Years * TorrentFreak ● Aug 23 [14:01] Techrights-sec ack [14:04] schestowitz-TR2 it's very good when your work makes it to other places (like raspi revelations to dozens of sites), which then act as impact multipliers [14:04] schestowitz-TR2 the epo too used to be like this around 2015 [14:04] schestowitz-TR2 then they put a stop to it [14:04] schestowitz-TR2 corked the media [14:04] schestowitz-TR2 i hope WBers on twitter bias will do as much damage as francis or whatever her name was (FB) [14:04] Techrights-sec https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/23/tech/twitter-whistleblower-peiter-zat [14:04] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/23/tech/twitter-whistleblower-peiter-zat ) [14:04] schestowitz-TR2 these sites need to be eradicated compltely [14:04] schestowitz-TR2 but it is important to put side the brands and tell people why the concept or the construct itself is harmful [14:04] schestowitz-TR2 RMS has done that for decades [14:04] schestowitz-TR2 sayign that copying something bad is itself bad [14:04] schestowitz-TR2 it's very good when your work makes it to other places (like raspi revelations to dozens of sites), which then act as impact multipliers [14:04] schestowitz-TR2 the epo too used to be like this around 2015 [14:04] schestowitz-TR2 then they put a stop to it [14:04] schestowitz-TR2 corked the media [14:04] schestowitz-TR2 i hope WBers on twitter bias will do as much damage as francis or whatever her name was (FB) [14:04] schestowitz-TR2 these sites need to be eradicated compltely [14:04] schestowitz-TR2 but it is important to put side the brands and tell people why the concept or the construct itself is harmful [14:05] schestowitz-TR2 RMS has done that for decades [14:05] schestowitz-TR2 sayign that copying something bad is itself bad [14:05] Techrights-sec https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/23/tech/twitter-whistleblower-peiter-zatack [14:05] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/23/tech/twitter-whistleblower-peiter-zatack ) [14:23] Techrights-sec [14:23] Techrights-sec ack [14:23] Techrights-sec they are a threat to democratic society and sovereignty of nations [14:51] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 23 [15:07] schestowitz-TR2 i need some hlp, gulag is not helping [15:07] schestowitz-TR2 about 5 years ago cia or a court described assange as "sophisticated target" [15:07] schestowitz-TR2 or something to that effect [15:07] schestowitz-TR2 I cannot find it [15:07] schestowitz-TR2 too much "media" noise [15:08] schestowitz-TR2 iirc, it was a leaked document [15:08] schestowitz-TR2 I get some "tweets" from last year [15:08] schestowitz-TR2 I'm giving up [15:08] schestowitz-TR2 needle in a haystack by now [15:10] Techrights-sec probably not possible to find it any more, there is so much chaff out ther [15:10] Techrights-sec and the indexes don't cover anything more than a few months old any more [15:10] Techrights-sec e.g. https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/16/opinions/julian-assange-wikileaks-campbell/index.html [15:10] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-edition.cnn.com | Julian Assange falsely billed himself as a truth defender (Opinion) - CNN [15:10] schestowitz-TR2 I decided to paraphrase from memory without URL or doc [15:25] Techrights-sec https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/why-julian-assange-is-americas-ultimate-prize/news-story/d99d124da5530e8bdaca5bd5c31e2e2e [15:25] Techrights-sec https://www.timeslive.co.za/sunday-times/opinion-and-analysis/2019-04-21-assange-a-modern-christ-crucified-to-assuage-a-hostile-empire/ [15:25] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/why-julian-assange-is-americas-ultimate-prize/news-story/d99d124da5530e8bdaca5bd5c31e2e2e ) [15:25] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.timeslive.co.za | Assange a modern Christ, crucified to assuage a hostile empire [15:27] schestowitz-TR2 I remember that article [15:27] schestowitz-TR2 these analogies might even help his detractors [15:27] schestowitz-TR2 what I looked for is likely a "teet" [15:27] schestowitz-TR2 sadly, Assange personally and Wikileaks as an org wastes too much time there [15:27] schestowitz-TR2 posting docs [15:27] schestowitz-TR2 and they're hard to find [15:27] schestowitz-TR2 they did not catalogue those in their web site [15:28] Techrights-sec stuff "posted" in twitter is lost [15:28] Techrights-sec context is already missing the minute it gets published and [15:28] Techrights-sec there are no meaningful search capabilities [15:30] schestowitz-TR2 they would highlight bits in legal docs [15:30] schestowitz-TR2 or leaks [15:30] schestowitz-TR2 and then post only as tweet [15:30] schestowitz-TR2 pardon my typos [15:30] schestowitz-TR2 "teet" LOL [15:30] schestowitz-TR2 maybe a good joke, tii [15:30] schestowitz-TR2 *oo sucking jake's teat [15:30] schestowitz-TR2 by outsourcing everything to his sms experiment from the early 2000s [15:30] Techrights-sec that was only them pretending to publish, twitter is too ephemeral for anything [15:30] Techrights-sec at all [15:31] schestowitz-TR2 I kept telling them to use the site more [15:31] schestowitz-TR2 and rss feeds etc. [15:31] schestowitz-TR2 as twitter keps censoring them and locking their account [15:31] schestowitz-TR2 twitter was already controlling the audience [15:31] schestowitz-TR2 as the shim between the publisher and ther readers [15:31] schestowitz-TR2 can hide anytthing [15:31] schestowitz-TR2 iwth "HEY HI" as excuse [15:41] schestowitz-TR2 draft [15:41] schestowitz-TR2 crude, will add more, video has a long way to go still [15:41] schestowitz-TR2 adding a devuan plug-ish [15:41] Techrights-sec checking [15:41] Techrights-sec perhaps tie it to the fight about software patents? [15:41] schestowitz-TR2 ok, will expand on swpats too [15:46] Techrights-sec thanks [15:50] schestowitz-TR2 random thought [15:50] schestowitz-TR2 wikileaks 2006-2009: many good publications, little impact [15:50] schestowitz-TR2 until baer bank, I think (elmer) [15:50] schestowitz-TR2 and then lawsuit/slapp [15:50] schestowitz-TR2 by 2010 they already knew they had to work and pre-plan with media partners (for greater impact) [15:50] schestowitz-TR2 after all that swedish stuff and more so the 2016 presidential race wikileaks made some enemies with so-called "liberal" media [15:50] schestowitz-TR2 so later publications were laregely ignored [15:50] schestowitz-TR2 like our Intel leaks and WPO material after the media got coopted [15:50] schestowitz-TR2 *EPO ● Aug 23 [16:25] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:49] Techrights-sec ack [16:52] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:58] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 23 [17:40] schestowitz-TR2 ping [17:40] schestowitz-TR2 y7ou will like thr draft [17:40] schestowitz-TR2 it's short [17:40] schestowitz-TR2 but revealing [17:40] Techrights-sec pong [17:40] Techrights-sec checking [17:40] Techrights-sec a brief summary or at least a hint about the story could be in the text [17:44] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:44] Techrights-sec Should the text metion "Bakkt" ? [17:44] schestowitz-TR2 yes, maybe transcript too? [17:48] Techrights-sec it's about 30 seconds long. what is the origin of the video? there should [17:48] Techrights-sec be a link to or explanation of the source [17:52] schestowitz-TR2 added bakkt and more links [17:52] schestowitz-TR2 orally already had the talk'\s link [17:52] schestowitz-TR2 don't want to send them too much traffic [17:52] schestowitz-TR2 maybe spamnil can arrange some [17:52] schestowitz-TR2 no video in 5 days [17:52] schestowitz-TR2 i tink i got hims susp[ended [17:53] Techrights-sec thanks [17:53] Techrights-sec then just a mention of the source not an active link ? [17:53] Techrights-sec or the name, date, and location of the event? [17:53] Techrights-sec who is speaking in the video? [17:54] schestowitz-TR2 the video desc contains all that info [17:54] schestowitz-TR2 for those who know what LF is, the speakers name/voice will be known [17:54] schestowitz-TR2 a transcript MIGHT help [17:54] schestowitz-TR2 but we have the horse's mouth and it is short [17:55] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 23 [18:10] schestowitz-TR2 it's Jim Zemlin [18:10] schestowitz-TR2 he mentions the wife again later [18:10] schestowitz-TR2 some context would help [18:10] schestowitz-TR2 he gave this talk around the time her scam was going public (IPO) [18:10] schestowitz-TR2 at very high valued [18:10] schestowitz-TR2 people's "wallets" at Bakkt lost like 90% of their value [18:10] schestowitz-TR2 depending when they joined the "scheme" [18:10] schestowitz-TR2 and he's so proud of it [18:10] schestowitz-TR2 I won't even comment on her appearance (maybe a matter of taste) [18:23] Techrights-sec ack [18:23] Techrights-sec what was baktt claiming to be? [18:26] schestowitz-TR2 like a "wallet" for 'crypto' [18:26] schestowitz-TR2 to make it "easy" and "accessible", I think [18:26] schestowitz-TR2 anyway, all those cryptocranks are BS [18:26] schestowitz-TR2 inc. those who wear suits and went to Harvard [18:26] schestowitz-TR2 there must be thousands of those "crypto ios hard, let us manage it for you" exhcnages (*scams) [18:26] schestowitz-TR2 wonder hoiw many perished and folded with the "assets" and "money" so far this year [18:26] schestowitz-TR2 bakkt can be next [18:40] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [18:45] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 23 [19:09] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [19:10] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 23 [20:42] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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