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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gregorylent/status/1175755023537491968 | Sep 23 03:45 |
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| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gregorylent: @schestowitz focus group idea | Sep 23 03:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Flavia0847/status/1175785071577587712 | Sep 23 03:45 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Flavia0847: @schestowitz @Snowden They mustn't have known that the Chinese were getting EVERYTHING through their server chip. I… https://t.co/bQ7shgPCrr | Sep 23 03:45 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Flavia0847: @schestowitz @Snowden They mustn't have known that the Chinese were getting EVERYTHING through their server chip. I… https://t.co/bQ7shgPCrr | Sep 23 03:45 | |
| schestowitz | "They mustn't have known that the Chinese were getting EVERYTHING through their server chip. It didn't matter much, either." | Sep 23 03:45 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Flavia0847/status/1175796802467061760 | Sep 23 03:45 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Flavia0847: Makes sense to have an accessible energy planning tool. Knowledge is power - and an opportunity to maker a profit. https://t.co/hbfUfJW1Ya | Sep 23 03:45 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: "free open-source" So energy too is FOSS now? https://t.co/7w1LGkf6OP | Sep 23 03:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/thomasbeagle/status/1175852300268490752 | Sep 23 03:46 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@thomasbeagle: @schestowitz @glynmoody The US government decided that having US companies in control of mobile development across… https://t.co/YcfjBSJWI3 | Sep 23 03:46 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@thomasbeagle: @schestowitz @glynmoody The US government decided that having US companies in control of mobile development across… https://t.co/YcfjBSJWI3 | Sep 23 03:46 | |
| schestowitz | "The US government decided that having US companies in control of mobile development across the globe was a bad idea, so cut Huawei off from accessing Google services." | Sep 23 03:46 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1175854728825266176 | Sep 23 03:46 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: @thomasbeagle @schestowitz yes, they really don't think this stuff through... | Sep 23 03:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/NeilDMaxwell/status/1175879176634503168 | Sep 23 03:46 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@NeilDMaxwell: @kayascrabs trying to ruin twitter again thanks Kaya https://t.co/3bIP0Xz1hG | Sep 23 03:46 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: "A Saudi billionaire prince, famous for employing a team of dwarves, is now Twitter's second largest shareholder." https://t.co/SAawKg4iql | Sep 23 03:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Glambertoo1/status/1175885002464272385 | Sep 23 03:46 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Glambertoo1: @schestowitz @jlboul @wikileaks @JulianAssange any politician who works to silence Assange/WikiLeaks IS corrupt b/c… https://t.co/WzDUlhSP8c | Sep 23 03:46 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Glambertoo1: @schestowitz @jlboul @wikileaks @JulianAssange any politician who works to silence Assange/WikiLeaks IS corrupt b/c… https://t.co/WzDUlhSP8c | Sep 23 03:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Glambertoo1/status/1175885002464272385 | Sep 23 03:46 |
| schestowitz | "any politician who works to silence Assange/WikiLeaks IS corrupt b/c they do not want government corruptions exposed to the masses keeping them u/Tyranny via ignorance which Founding Fathers said EACH generation has to fight against to let their "experiment" b successful~" | Sep 23 03:46 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KristianHarstad/status/1175915708615671810 | Sep 23 03:47 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@KristianHarstad: @schestowitz @wikileaks Rubbish! He is supposed to be in prison until April next year! Why do you tell these stupid lies | Sep 23 03:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BloomfieldSonny/status/1175929037224468480 | Sep 23 03:47 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BloomfieldSonny: @schestowitz This may interest you and you followers. Feel free to see, sign n share. 👌🏾 https://t.co/JdvIftBv8R | Sep 23 03:47 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.change.org | Petition · Change the licensing agreement around the Aboriginal Flag #PrideNotProfit · Change.org | Sep 23 03:47 | |
| schestowitz | There are almost always items, more so for busy feeds, that appear again across dates (bottom of list of items for the next day) -- an unspecified number of them. Can the existing dupe remover (coded in Perl) be used to compare one day to the previous?There are almost always items, more so for busy feeds, that appear again across dates (bottom of list of items for the next day) -- an unspecified number of them. Can the existing dupe | Sep 23 03:52 |
| schestowitz | remover (coded in Perl) be used to compare one day to the previous? | Sep 23 03:52 |
| schestowitz | Dupes | Sep 23 03:52 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9n9qvIb4PilnwpZMjg | Sep 23 04:07 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Sep 23 04:07 | |
| schestowitz | " it's a worm, an infectious worm. Uck!" | Sep 23 04:07 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9nAaolPFUzOfA9rUuG | Sep 23 04:07 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Sep 23 04:07 | |
| schestowitz | " i've considered setting up a separate instance for @schestowitz and his news bot. i don't know who runs @protestation lol" | Sep 23 04:07 |
| schestowitz | I am not a bot... | Sep 23 04:07 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9nBvH7HMXzYi5VWGxc | Sep 23 04:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Sep 23 04:08 | |
| schestowitz | " is there no possibility to postulate you to the fsf board?" | Sep 23 04:08 |
| schestowitz | I don't know how that works | Sep 23 04:08 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16052558#623f84d0bfb60137bff9002590d8e506 | Sep 23 04:33 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #FSF used to be #RMS Now it's just RMless, or rm | less. Harmless to corporations. rm -rf /home/fsf/ #selfharm #freesw #gnu | Sep 23 04:33 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 04:33 |
| schestowitz | a priority should be getting him on the board again. if they can reinstate him as president thats great, but getting him on the board again should be trivial. | Sep 23 04:33 |
| schestowitz | also we need more richard stallmans. and ricki stallmans. | Sep 23 04:33 |
| schestowitz | a real stallman thinks for themselves, thinks critically-- they dont just parrot things stallman i says (though generally speaking, the fact that monopolies are fighting stallmans ideology gives credence to the fact that his ideas have value for fighting monopolies.) | Sep 23 04:33 |
| schestowitz | Alessandro Ebersol | Sep 23 04:33 |
| schestowitz | Alessandro Ebersol - about 7 hours ago | Sep 23 04:33 |
| schestowitz | I Just wanted him to be more awake… Dunno If it’s too late | Sep 23 04:33 |
| schestowitz | Alessandro Ebersol | Sep 23 04:33 |
| schestowitz | Alessandro Ebersol - about 7 hours ago | Sep 23 04:33 |
| schestowitz | Fig, I posted something very interesting, it’s in Spanish, but, Worth a Look. | Sep 23 04:33 |
| schestowitz | About SJW’s attacking RMS again. | Sep 23 04:33 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Sep 23 04:33 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about 7 hours ago | Sep 23 04:33 |
| schestowitz | sigh. | Sep 23 04:33 |
| schestowitz | thanks very much, im on it. | Sep 23 04:33 |
| schestowitz | the sigh of course, isnt because youre posting. on the contrary, i was going to pm you and ask when you can post again :) cheers. | Sep 23 04:33 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Sep 23 04:33 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about 7 hours ago | Sep 23 04:33 |
| schestowitz | sarah mei, why does that sound familiar? | Sep 23 04:33 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Sep 23 04:33 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about 6 hours ago | Sep 23 04:33 |
| schestowitz | oh ffs. | Sep 23 04:33 |
| schestowitz | (thank you for showing that to me.) | Sep 23 04:33 |
| schestowitz | Alessandro Ebersol | Sep 23 04:33 |
| schestowitz | Alessandro Ebersol - about 6 hours ago | Sep 23 04:33 |
| schestowitz | What about her ??? Another Sharpe ??? | Sep 23 04:34 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Sep 23 04:34 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about 6 hours ago | Sep 23 04:34 |
| schestowitz | your post in spanish | Sep 23 04:34 |
| schestowitz | Alessandro Ebersol | Sep 23 04:34 |
| schestowitz | Alessandro Ebersol - about 5 hours ago | Sep 23 04:34 |
| schestowitz | I mean other than that. I did read it a little, that she works for Salesforce and has a special hatred for RMS, because feminism… | Sep 23 04:34 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Sep 23 04:34 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about 5 hours ago | Sep 23 04:34 |
| schestowitz | oh, other than that. i dont know. it was just the other day/week/year. | Sep 23 04:34 |
| schestowitz | Alessandro Ebersol | Sep 23 04:34 |
| schestowitz | Alessandro Ebersol - about 5 hours ago | Sep 23 04:34 |
| schestowitz | Ok! | Sep 23 04:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 04:34 |
| schestowitz | luuuula | Sep 23 04:34 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16013944#cecacd80bbf40137b1a30cc47a07853c | Sep 23 04:38 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Maybe #fsf will join #facebook next week. You know, to find members... | Sep 23 04:38 | |
| schestowitz | "v" | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | The Green Party US faces exactly the same problem. When you are resisting a system you must forgo the benefits that come from supporting the system. | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 5 days ago | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | The Green Party US faces exactly the same problem. When you are providing alternatives to a system you must forgo the benefits that come from supporting the system. | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | Trocatintas | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | Trocatintas - 5 days ago | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | “benefits”? I think it’s more a question of having their actions and followers surveilled and manipulated by targeted ads. | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 5 days ago | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | Sponsors. | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 5 days ago | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | The Green Party US faces exactly the same problem. When you are resisting a system you must forgo the benefits that come from supporting the system. | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | +1 | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 5 days ago | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | I think it’s more a question of having their actions and followers surveilled and manipulated by targeted ads. | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | s/benefits/costs/ | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 5 days ago | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | We are on Facebook. There are discussions behind the scenes, but you cannot isolate your movement from society because if you do, the movement quickly dies. Yet we are indeed selling our followers… | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 5 days ago | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | My biggest concern is that Facebook will be collecting information about people who are interested in the Green Party and associating those people’s identities with that interest. That alone is enough for me to recommend not using their “service”. | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 5 days ago | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | oh no, the stuff youre saying is well documented and not news (at least i knew what you meant) | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 5 days ago | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | @trocatintas (according to the post order, im from the future!) | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 5 days ago | Sep 23 04:38 |
| schestowitz | , im from the future!) | Sep 23 04:39 |
| schestowitz | Talk about losing coherence! | Sep 23 04:39 |
| schestowitz | Trocatintas | Sep 23 04:39 |
| schestowitz | Trocatintas - 5 days ago | Sep 23 04:39 |
| schestowitz | When you’re inside Facebook you can be targeted to get in a certain “mood” and to get only a certain type of posts or even taylored posts just for you. You can induce the leader of a project into a state of paranoia during an election for example or induce depression on the followers prior to a big demonstration. | Sep 23 04:39 |
| schestowitz | Trocatintas | Sep 23 04:39 |
| schestowitz | Trocatintas - 5 days ago | Sep 23 04:39 |
| schestowitz | I’m loosing coherence, must sleep! Bye. | Sep 23 04:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 04:39 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16013890#6cb39e20bbf40137522b0cc47a07853c | Sep 23 04:40 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #fsfe does and says almost nothing. It does, however, serve a blow to #rms and expresses support for #copyright #censorship in the #eu If someone lost its way, it's not RMS but FSFE | Sep 23 04:40 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 04:40 |
| schestowitz | Sadly, yes. | Sep 23 04:40 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Sep 23 04:40 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 5 days ago | Sep 23 04:40 |
| schestowitz | and expresses support for #copyright #censorship in the #eu | Sep 23 04:40 |
| schestowitz | then its time to admit that fsfe takes too weak a stance on freedom. | Sep 23 04:40 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/08/19/fsf-freedom-of-speech/ | Sep 23 04:40 |
| schestowitz | people need to boycott fsfe if theyre too fucking stupid to realise that software freedom relies on an uncensored internet. | Sep 23 04:40 |
| schestowitz | you cant have software freedom without freedom of speech, fsfe fucks. | Sep 23 04:40 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Sep 23 04:40 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 5 days ago | Sep 23 04:40 |
| schestowitz | this is something the fsf has always been week on-- keeping perspective about the impact of copyright and censorship on software freedom. | Sep 23 04:40 |
| schestowitz | it was changes to copyright that made microsoft flourish and the era of software sharing threatened in the first place! | Sep 23 04:40 |
| schestowitz | the fsfe is showing gross incompetence on this matter. | Sep 23 04:40 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Sep 23 04:40 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 5 days ago | Sep 23 04:40 |
| schestowitz | you cant have software freedom without freedom of speech | Sep 23 04:40 |
| schestowitz | Free Software is (quite literally) freedom of speech. One and the same thing! | Sep 23 04:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 04:40 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16013990#d130aa60bbe90137098b7a163ef10931 | Sep 23 04:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 04:41 |
| schestowitz | If they ever do, it will be far too late. | Sep 23 04:41 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Sep 23 04:41 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 5 days ago | Sep 23 04:41 |
| schestowitz | Stallman was an icon. Is an icon. | Sep 23 04:41 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Sep 23 04:41 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 5 days ago | Sep 23 04:41 |
| schestowitz | I hope RMS takes some time and considers what to do next. Like maybe founding another organization… | Sep 23 04:41 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Sep 23 04:41 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 5 days ago | Sep 23 04:41 |
| schestowitz | I would sign-up in an instant! | Sep 23 04:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 04:41 |
| schestowitz | I asked him about it | Sep 23 04:41 |
| schestowitz | "i think about this a lot (also, roy is probably right.) i dont think he will found another organisation. i think its a pretty good idea, i wont outline the factors of why i think it wont happen, though i think its a pretty good idea. stallman ought to still be on the board. for now, his email appears active. i will be watching his website for updates. send him an email to rms at gnu dot org with your support-- im going to keep saying | Sep 23 04:42 |
| schestowitz | that for anybody that hasnt thought of it yet. go ahead. and please let me know if you get a reply, hes very good about replying but i wont be surprised if he cant or doesnt this week." | Sep 23 04:42 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15727396#f7da7790a45a013709577a163ef10931 | Sep 23 04:43 |
| schestowitz | "“Let’s be really clear about this — around the time Microsoft was founded, most computer enthusiasts already shared software, which was generally legal to share. Ever since, Free software was painted (by corporations and by Open source) as overzealous and unreasonable — simply for not wanting monopolies to take over what was once the right of every computer enthusiast on Earth. - When companies who literally own the media | Sep 23 04:43 |
| schestowitz | corporations want to destroy your occupation, your hobby and your rights, and paint you as a zealot for simply arguing for those rights — it does you no good to be an overly agreeable person."" | Sep 23 04:43 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Guarding and Rescuing the FSF Titanic: Free as in Speech | Techrights | Sep 23 04:43 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Imagine Just imagine if you will That eventually #fsf might realise that #rms wasn't its problem In fact, it needed to do more for #freedom Instead of kicking out the one who stood up for it best | Sep 23 04:43 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Guarding and Rescuing the #FSF Titanic: Introduction http://techrights.org/2019/08/18/introduction-helping-fsf/ #freesw #freedom #rms #titanic @zoobab | Sep 23 04:43 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Guarding and Rescuing the FSF Titanic: Introduction | Techrights | Sep 23 04:43 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16011363#4e7ea610bba20137524d0cc47a07853c | Sep 23 04:44 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: To suggest that #fsf Board will pick a good replacement for #rms is to assume the very same people who kicked out the founder will have #softwarefreedom in mind. So they will pick something 'in between' RMS... and #zemlin (!) | Sep 23 04:44 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 04:44 |
| schestowitz | im not ready to be negative about their choice before its made. its already impossible. | Sep 23 04:44 |
| schestowitz | something has to go right-- by the time it does, it will likely be something we didnt suspect. | Sep 23 04:44 |
| schestowitz | Alessandro Ebersol | Sep 23 04:44 |
| schestowitz | Alessandro Ebersol - 5 days ago | Sep 23 04:44 |
| schestowitz | I suspect that his ousting was planned, by outside forces, to put someone Who they Can control. I Hope I’m wrong, but, the majority Of coups happen this way. | Sep 23 04:44 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Sep 23 04:44 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 5 days ago | Sep 23 04:44 |
| schestowitz | I suspect that his ousting was planned, by outside forces, to put someone Who they Can control. | Sep 23 04:44 |
| schestowitz | not a stupid comment, its a reasonable concern, but im not ready to be that cynical. | Sep 23 04:44 |
| schestowitz | ive written about stuff like this for ages, so im capable of being that cynical. im on the lookout for something good to happen. right now its very important. | Sep 23 04:44 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Sep 23 04:44 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 5 days ago | Sep 23 04:44 |
| schestowitz | the majority Of coups happen this way. | Sep 23 04:44 |
| schestowitz | indeed. we have talked about this possibility for a while, its in articles on techrights, it should not be anybody who signed that libreplanet letter against stallman, anybody from gnome, anybody from sfc. | Sep 23 04:44 |
| schestowitz | Alessandro Ebersol | Sep 23 04:44 |
| schestowitz | Alessandro Ebersol - 5 days ago | Sep 23 04:44 |
| schestowitz | Anybody from Red Rat, and, God forbid, Microshaft… | Sep 23 04:45 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Sep 23 04:45 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 5 days ago | Sep 23 04:45 |
| schestowitz | theres one former red hat person i would not boo or hiss off the stage. | Sep 23 04:45 |
| schestowitz | though someone who still works there i would not be comfortable with (and even someone respectable who worked there should be considered with deliberation and care.) | Sep 23 04:45 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 04:45 |
| schestowitz | is it worth me pursuing a seat? Not sure how this work, but I can travel there visa-free (German). | Sep 23 04:45 |
| schestowitz | is it worth me pursuing a seat? Not sure how this works (nomination?), but I can travel there visa-free (German). | Sep 23 04:46 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16032094#55b10370bd93013709797a163ef10931 | Sep 23 05:03 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #zemlinpac led by Jim #zemlin is nothing but a corporate coup; they rely on having completely nontechnical people like Zemlin in positions of power/authority (selected not based on merit but lack of it; easier to control) http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Jim_Zemlin | Sep 23 05:03 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Jim Zemlin - Techrights | Sep 23 05:03 | |
| schestowitz | "When you are incompetent in your field you are always in fear of losing your job. Perfect." | Sep 23 05:03 |
| schestowitz | They call it imposter syndrome | Sep 23 05:03 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16032048#dd9dceb0bd96013709797a163ef10931 | Sep 23 05:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #zemlinpac doesn't have a 'soft' spot for Micro-soft. It has a hardon for it. It's all about money and #zemlin PAC is totally corrupted. They sold out #linux http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation | Sep 23 05:04 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights | Sep 23 05:04 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:04 |
| schestowitz | Sep 23 05:04 | |
| schestowitz | The Fall Sale starts next week. | Sep 23 05:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:04 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16031630#03a8bc20be510137b1a30cc47a07853c | Sep 23 05:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft "Plans $40B Stock Buyback" Here they go again artificially inflating their own shares They also announced losses several times http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_-_Financials | Sep 23 05:04 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Microsoft - Financials - Techrights | Sep 23 05:04 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:05 |
| schestowitz | Ah, but they are not destroying those shares, just keeping them | Sep 23 05:05 |
| schestowitz | oh, alright. if id known that i wouldnt have asked. | Sep 23 05:05 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Sep 23 05:05 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 2 days ago | Sep 23 05:05 |
| schestowitz | anything to maintain the signs of health… | Sep 23 05:05 |
| schestowitz | i think its far too early, but just for fun-- if microsoft actually fell, who do you think would buy them? | Sep 23 05:05 |
| schestowitz | apple was doing worse than this years ago, and bill gates helped them out. im confident that strings were attached. | Sep 23 05:05 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Sep 23 05:05 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 2 days ago | Sep 23 05:05 |
| schestowitz | the answer is ibm, of course. but imagine if it were google! | Sep 23 05:05 |
| schestowitz | id rather it be either than amazon. | Sep 23 05:05 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Sep 23 05:05 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 2 days ago | Sep 23 05:05 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is trying hard to be a more a government-service supplier, supplying cloud resources for inflated amounts. If that comes through, they can afford to be less successfully competitive. | Sep 23 05:05 |
| schestowitz | Will Hill | Sep 23 05:05 |
| schestowitz | Will Hill - 2 days ago | Sep 23 05:05 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is again trying to pump up the value of their stock to rob the public. They pay off their employees this way, but it shows they lack faith in their market valuation. That is, they think it unwise to let their shares fall to true market value and use their ill gotten government contract money to buy up their shares. As soon as they lie enough in magazines like Barons and Forbes to entrap another group of “institutional | Sep 23 05:05 |
| schestowitz | investors”, they will dump their shares back onto the market to suck money out of 401K and the few remaining pension plans. It’s a fraudulent conveyor of money from ordinary people to Bill Gates, mostly enabled by government and institutional purchases. No one else wants their shitty software, so the actual market value of their stock constantly sinks to zero. | Sep 23 05:05 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Sep 23 05:05 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - a day ago | Sep 23 05:05 |
| schestowitz | Their government contracts will keep them afloat - they seem to have some influence there… | Sep 23 05:05 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:05 |
| schestowitz | It's a form of bailout from the Army and Trump's circle | Sep 23 05:05 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16044861#161754c0bed8013709957a163ef10931 | Sep 23 05:05 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #linux is starting to look more like #microsoft #windows And if Linux is winning as they tell us, why is Microsoft still not supporting ext4 etc.? Did Microsoft buy Linux along with 'Linux' Foundation? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.4-F2FS-Features | Sep 23 05:05 | |
| schestowitz | "“Puke inducing” alert → Inside Bill’s Brain: Decoding Bill Gates | Official Trailer | Netflix - Invidious" | Sep 23 05:05 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.phoronix.com | F2FS Linux 5.4 Changes Sent In With Case-Insensitivity, Get/Set Label Support - Phoronix | Sep 23 05:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16013929#73536a50bbe40137098f7a163ef10931 | Sep 23 05:06 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Moving from RMS removal to #microsoft #openwashing :/ https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/134667/09-17-2019-linux-headlines/ | Sep 23 05:06 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:06 |
| schestowitz | "Richard Stallman resigns from the board of the Free Software Foundation and his position at MIT. Plus Microsoft’s latest open source project, Oracle’s new Linux distribution, and a release date for CentOS 8." | Sep 23 05:06 |
| schestowitz |  | Sep 23 05:06 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | 09/17/2019 | Linux Headlines | Jupiter Broadcasting | Sep 23 05:06 | |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 5 days ago | Sep 23 05:06 |
| schestowitz | Smooth. | Sep 23 05:06 |
| schestowitz |  | Sep 23 05:06 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 5 days ago | Sep 23 05:06 |
| schestowitz | i have always loathed jupiter broadcasting. in the context of that belief system, jupiter is a god of gods. | Sep 23 05:06 |
| schestowitz | the main (unintended) theme of years of jupiter broadcasting as far as i can tell, is sucking up to corporations so they will bestow similar godhood on them. and (gently) shitting on everything else, of course. | Sep 23 05:06 |
| schestowitz | fine i guess, if you like that sort of thing. | Sep 23 05:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:06 |
| schestowitz | It is owned entirely by Linux Academy, which is pushing Microsoft Azure | Sep 23 05:06 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15920524#aa3d6610b2f401378d99002590d8e506 | Sep 23 05:07 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Swapnil's site still cheering for #Microsoft and its abduction of #Linux to make #proprietary products https://www.tfir.io/2019/09/06/microsoft-qualcomm-launch-vision-ai-developer-kit/ | Sep 23 05:07 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:07 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tfir.io | Microsoft Launches Linux Based Smart Camera Developer Kit - TFiR | Sep 23 05:07 | |
| schestowitz | MicroSwapnil… | Sep 23 05:07 |
| schestowitz |  | Sep 23 05:07 |
| schestowitz | JM O - 16 days ago | Sep 23 05:07 |
| schestowitz | 🤔 | Sep 23 05:07 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:07 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15911087#21915920b2790137b1a90cc47a07853c | Sep 23 05:07 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Microsoft trying to pay off RMS? https://www.zdnet.com/article/free-software-advocate-richard-stallman-spoke-at-microsoft-research-this-week/ | Sep 23 05:07 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:07 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft ♥ RMS | Sep 23 05:07 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Sep 23 05:07 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 17 days ago | Sep 23 05:07 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.zdnet.com | Free software advocate Richard Stallman spoke at Microsoft Research this week | ZDNet | Sep 23 05:07 | |
| schestowitz | Microsoft ♥ RMS | Sep 23 05:08 |
| schestowitz | they certainly dont ♥ their users | Sep 23 05:08 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15915540#1dc786e0b2a70137adae52540039b762 | Sep 23 05:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The visit to #Microsoft is now being exploited by Microsoft apologists. They say things like, "even #RMS is OK with Microsoft..." People in IRC ask me questions... What am I supposed to say? I don't know the pertinent facts because the story was broken by Microsoft PR people. | Sep 23 05:08 | |
| schestowitz | I am very interested to hear. | Sep 23 05:08 |
| schestowitz |  | Sep 23 05:08 |
| schestowitz | Theodotos Andreou - 17 days ago | Sep 23 05:08 |
| schestowitz | What am I supposed to say? | Sep 23 05:08 |
| schestowitz | Just show them this: | Sep 23 05:08 |
| schestowitz | https://stallman.org/microsoft.html | Sep 23 05:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-stallman.org | Reasons not to use Microsoft | Sep 23 05:08 | |
| schestowitz | When he was in Cyprus he gave his talk from a Windows Laptop, because that’s only what the venue would offer. You see, even if you are Stallman, you still need to compromise to get the message through. | Sep 23 05:08 |
| schestowitz | His talk here: | Sep 23 05:08 |
| schestowitz | https://archive.org/details/rmsCyprus | Sep 23 05:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-archive.org | Richard Stallman: Copyright vs Community in the Age of Computer Networks : Future Worlds Center : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive | Sep 23 05:08 | |
| schestowitz |  | Sep 23 05:08 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 12 days ago | Sep 23 05:08 |
| schestowitz | When he was in Cyprus he gave his talk from a Windows Laptop, because that’s only what the venue would offer. You see, even if you are Stallman, you still need to compromise to get the message through. | Sep 23 05:08 |
| schestowitz | stallman has said before that he will do trivial amounts of work on non-free software on someone elses computer if its all that is available. it isnt a secret, its just not very widely known. | Sep 23 05:08 |
| schestowitz | getting all the non-free software off your own computers is enough to be a “saint” in the church of emails. | Sep 23 05:08 |
| schestowitz |  | Sep 23 05:08 |
| schestowitz | Theodotos Andreou - 12 days ago | Sep 23 05:09 |
| schestowitz | I’m not judging. I agree with this approach but it is still a compromise we occasionally have to make. | Sep 23 05:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:09 |
| schestowitz | I am very interested to hear. | Sep 23 05:09 |
| schestowitz |  | Sep 23 05:09 |
| schestowitz | Theodotos Andreou - 17 days ago | Sep 23 05:09 |
| schestowitz | What am I supposed to say? | Sep 23 05:09 |
| schestowitz | Just show them this: | Sep 23 05:09 |
| schestowitz | https://stallman.org/microsoft.html | Sep 23 05:09 |
| schestowitz | When he was in Cyprus he gave his talk from a Windows Laptop, because that’s only what the venue would offer. You see, even if you are Stallman, you still need to compromise to get the message through. | Sep 23 05:09 |
| schestowitz | His talk here: | Sep 23 05:09 |
| schestowitz | https://archive.org/details/rmsCyprus | Sep 23 05:09 |
| schestowitz |  | Sep 23 05:09 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 12 days ago | Sep 23 05:09 |
| schestowitz | When he was in Cyprus he gave his talk from a Windows Laptop, because that’s only what the venue would offer. You see, even if you are Stallman, you still need to compromise to get the message through. | Sep 23 05:09 |
| schestowitz | stallman has said before that he will do trivial amounts of work on non-free software on someone elses computer if its all that is available. it isnt a secret, its just not very widely known. | Sep 23 05:09 |
| schestowitz | getting all the non-free software off your own computers is enough to be a “saint” in the church of emails. | Sep 23 05:09 |
| schestowitz |  | Sep 23 05:09 |
| schestowitz | Theodotos Andreou - 12 days ago | Sep 23 05:09 |
| schestowitz | I’m not judging. I agree with this approach but it is still a compromise we occasionally have to make." | Sep 23 05:09 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15915540#1dc786e0b2a70137adae52540039b762 | Sep 23 05:09 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The visit to #Microsoft is now being exploited by Microsoft apologists. They say things like, "even #RMS is OK with Microsoft..." People in IRC ask me questions... What am I supposed to say? I don't know the pertinent facts because the story was broken by Microsoft PR people. | Sep 23 05:09 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15983260#bd7cc470b8ce0137c1960cc47a07853c | Sep 23 05:09 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: When I asked RMS about his #microsoft visit he said he was writing an article (if he would; have seen nothing yet); but seeing the latest scandal, of his own making, I guess priorities will change. Sad... | Sep 23 05:09 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:09 |
| schestowitz | its not a scandal. he simply made some pedantic comments about a deceased colleague (in the colleagues defense.) | Sep 23 05:10 |
| schestowitz | the guys an old man with autism who said something VERY politically incorrect. | Sep 23 05:10 |
| schestowitz | hes a VETERAN of this sort of thing. bryan lunduke tried to get him on a similar comment years ago. it was slimy of lunduke. but some people will think its slimy of stallman. personally, i think its stupid to try to hang on old man over a few words that you have to take out of context to really hurt him with. you should probably worry more about minsky, not that they can do much to him now. | Sep 23 05:10 |
| schestowitz |  | Sep 23 05:10 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 9 days ago | Sep 23 05:10 |
| schestowitz | the reason it was slimy of lunduke is purely because it was cynical. lunduke wasnt saying anything to defend anybodys rights, he was simply trying to use stallmans political opinion to discredit his position about another matter (software freedom) entirely. | Sep 23 05:10 |
| schestowitz | its the rhetorical equivalent of wanting the last soda in the fridge, but someone else grabs it before you do, so you throw a brick at them and take the soda. completely disproportionate, something only a thug would do. pretending to make it about morality, but actually being quite machiavellian. my opinion of lunduke is that if stallman didnt tolerate him more, i would have an even lower opinion-- but he does, so “whatever” basically. | Sep 23 05:10 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:10 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15983202#760ffbc0b8e0013709837a163ef10931 | Sep 23 05:10 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft loves [to attack] #linux (usually by proxy, as internal Microsoft documents admit) | Sep 23 05:10 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:10 |
| schestowitz | Devious bastards. Is this what Business has descended to? | Sep 23 05:10 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Sep 23 05:11 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 9 days ago | Sep 23 05:11 |
| schestowitz | its what (actual) cults do. microsoft was a corporate religion, almost from the start. it started with (at the time) fairly new ideas about how to turn the restriction of users into money. theyve never abandoned that. | Sep 23 05:11 |
| schestowitz | what most people dont get is that free software only seeks to make software free again. not for the first time. theres this weird anti-pattern of doing it microsofts way. their way is bad for industry, good for microsoft. and it exploits customers. and they treat it like its sacred. | Sep 23 05:11 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Sep 23 05:11 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 8 days ago | Sep 23 05:11 |
| schestowitz | In the earlier years, computing and innovative programming was mostly carried out by scientists, hobbyists, and students. Now that computing has spread to the masses there is much more money to be made - and so it shall be. | Sep 23 05:11 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:11 |
| schestowitz | v | Sep 23 05:11 |
| schestowitz | [Sunday, 22 September 2019] [07:58:47 BST] <r_schestowitz> > about a third of the way down the list which was not | Sep 23 05:11 |
| schestowitz | [Sunday, 22 September 2019] [07:58:47 BST] <r_schestowitz> > such a great showing for the crown of creation. And — | Sep 23 05:11 |
| schestowitz | [Sunday, 22 September 2019] [07:58:47 BST] <r_schestowitz> > but somebody there had the imagination to test the | Sep 23 05:11 |
| schestowitz | [Sunday, 22 September 2019] [07:58:47 BST] <r_schestowitz> > efficiency of a human riding a bicycle. A human riding a | Sep 23 05:12 |
| schestowitz | [Sunday, 22 September 2019] [07:58:47 BST] <r_schestowitz> > bicycle blew away the Condor, all the way off the top of | Sep 23 05:12 |
| schestowitz | [Sunday, 22 September 2019] [07:58:47 BST] <r_schestowitz> > the list. And it made a really big impression on me that | Sep 23 05:12 |
| schestowitz | [Sunday, 22 September 2019] [07:58:47 BST] <r_schestowitz> > we humans are tool builders. And that we can fashion | Sep 23 05:12 |
| schestowitz | [Sunday, 22 September 2019] [07:58:47 BST] <r_schestowitz> > tools that amplify these inherent abilities that we have | Sep 23 05:12 |
| schestowitz | [Sunday, 22 September 2019] [07:58:47 BST] <r_schestowitz> > to spectacular magnitudes. And so for me, a computer has | Sep 23 05:12 |
| schestowitz | [Sunday, 22 September 2019] [07:58:47 BST] <r_schestowitz> > always been a bicycle of the mind. Something that takes | Sep 23 05:12 |
| schestowitz | [Sunday, 22 September 2019] [07:58:47 BST] <r_schestowitz> > us far beyond our inherent abilities." | Sep 23 05:12 |
| schestowitz | [Sunday, 22 September 2019] [07:58:47 BST] <r_schestowitz> > | Sep 23 05:12 |
| schestowitz | [Sunday, 22 September 2019] [07:58:47 BST] <r_schestowitz> > | Sep 23 05:12 |
| schestowitz | [Sunday, 22 September 2019] [07:58:47 BST] <r_schestowitz> > https://singjupost.com/steve-jobs-lost-interview-1990-full-transcript/ | Sep 23 05:12 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-singjupost.com | Steve Jobs Lost Interview 1990 (Full Transcript) – The Singju Post | Sep 23 05:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15964034#4bfebd10b70a01378e65002590d8e506 | Sep 23 05:12 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #WSL is all bad faith; the whole "Microsoft Linux" club and its event; the organiser of this event keeps pestering me in Twitter with trollish comments (I never reply) http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/WSL | Sep 23 05:12 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:12 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | WSL - Techrights | Sep 23 05:12 | |
| schestowitz | I’m so pissed with this “Microshaft loves Linux” that I’m going to write about it. | Sep 23 05:12 |
| schestowitz |  | Sep 23 05:12 |
| schestowitz | oiche@pod.redfish.ca - 11 days ago | Sep 23 05:12 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Linux? No thanks! Keep them separate! | Sep 23 05:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:12 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15885575#a966bb20b0340137098b7a163ef10931 | Sep 23 05:13 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Net worth: billions. The man on the left sells #linux to #microsoft et al. The man on the right sold about 50 million #git repos to Microsoft (middle) We have a serious 'traitor' problem | Sep 23 05:13 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- Photo by schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_48942199d6cfe59cdb3e.jpg | Sep 23 05:13 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:13 |
| schestowitz | But he looks sooo coool… | Sep 23 05:13 |
| schestowitz |  | Sep 23 05:13 |
| schestowitz | MasterOfTheTiger - 20 days ago | Sep 23 05:13 |
| schestowitz | Sorry. I am not familiar with those people. Well, their faces. | Sep 23 05:13 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:13 |
| schestowitz | Jim Zemlin (Linux Foundation), Scott Guthrie (Microsoft), and GitHub's founder Chris Wanstrath the day Microsoft joined (paid) the Linux Foundation | Sep 23 05:13 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15989175#a0d3f670b97201377e854061862b8e7b | Sep 23 05:13 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #NPR is bring bribed by #billgates No longer it became a #microsoft megaphone #corruption #corporatemedia (which is what NPR became with these bribes ) https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1172577866678247424 | Sep 23 05:14 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@NPR: Microsoft President Brad Smith says governments need to regulate big tech companies. "We need to work with govern… https://t.co/kcWAs1hRKg | Sep 23 05:14 | |
| schestowitz | "NPR Names U.S. Propaganda Chief As New CEO - Invidious (https://invidio.us/watch?v=RLmRpir8SzI)' | Sep 23 05:14 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-invidio.us | NPR Names U.S. Propaganda Chief As New CEO - Invidious | Sep 23 05:14 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:14 |
| schestowitz | Sep 23 05:14 | |
| schestowitz | of course business wants government regulation -- how else excuse good citizenship practices that might not also equal higher profits | Sep 23 05:14 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:14 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15997442#0e888b90ba76013709797a163ef10931 | Sep 23 05:15 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Why did RMS end up speaking at Muppet Labs [ #microsoft ] and what made him go? Not that he needs help digging the hole he is in but corporate media is putting a lot of false words in his mouth. So are mailing list trolls." -Anonymous http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128122?page=1#comment-21653 | Sep 23 05:15 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:15 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org | Stallman Under Fire for Views on Epstein | Tux Machines | Sep 23 05:15 | |
| schestowitz | what made him go? | Sep 23 05:15 |
| schestowitz | He did not decide for himself? I very much doubt RMS would bend to pressure - that is not his style. | Sep 23 05:15 |
| schestowitz |  | Sep 23 05:15 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 7 days ago | Sep 23 05:15 |
| schestowitz | i read that as “what moved him to” not “what forced him.” | Sep 23 05:15 |
| schestowitz | against all notions to the contrary, english is very imprecise-- i just watched the alan turing doc with cumberbatch, he definitely struggled with the imprecision of language. | Sep 23 05:15 |
| schestowitz | “do you want to go to lunch?” | Sep 23 05:15 |
| schestowitz | “no” | Sep 23 05:15 |
| schestowitz | (this question repeats with minor variations in a loop that could have easily inspired the halting problem, until we get to) | Sep 23 05:15 |
| schestowitz | “are you hungry” | Sep 23 05:15 |
| schestowitz | “yes, could you bring me some soup?” they were going for sandwiches, they just chuckled and left. | Sep 23 05:15 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:15 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16015412#52e495d0bc15013752230cc47a07853c | Sep 23 05:15 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I get emails telling me that SJVN defected to #microsoft camp Based on his writings... | Sep 23 05:15 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16015412#52e495d0bc15013752230cc47a07853c | Sep 23 05:15 |
| schestowitz | i always thought his writing about #gnu gave with one hand and took with the other. i dont get the appeal, except to an audience that likes being backhanded (far too many, if youve read any comments on mainstream media articles lately) | Sep 23 05:15 |
| schestowitz |  | Sep 23 05:15 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - 5 days ago | Sep 23 05:15 |
| schestowitz | Follow the money - most people do. | Sep 23 05:15 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:15 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16014234#2a5f79f0bbf70137098b7a163ef10931 | Sep 23 05:16 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: From pro-Microsoft/Windows site: #Huawei Replaces #Windows with #Linux on New Laptops https://winbuzzer.com/2019/09/16/huawei-replaces-windows-with-linux-on-new-laptops-xcxwbn/ "fork of the Debian distribution." http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128053 | Sep 23 05:16 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:16 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> winbuzzer.com | Huawei Replaces Windows with Linux on New Laptops - WinBuzzer | Sep 23 05:16 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org | Huawei Just Started Selling Laptops With Deepin Linux Pre-Installed | Tux Machines | Sep 23 05:16 | |
| schestowitz | Sadly, I will not be able to buy one here in the US of A. | Sep 23 05:16 |
| schestowitz |  | Sep 23 05:16 |
| schestowitz | matlo - 5 days ago | Sep 23 05:16 |
| schestowitz | Yes a good device with a good OS. | Sep 23 05:16 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:16 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15938740#6e415580b5010137b18b0cc47a07853c | Sep 23 05:16 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft love | Sep 23 05:16 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- Photo by schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_0fd18f81783465d82c69.jpeg | Sep 23 05:16 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:16 |
| schestowitz | Sep 23 05:16 | |
| schestowitz | "extinguish! extinguish! extinguish!" | Sep 23 05:16 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:16 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15842943#6c70b7e0acb20137587d002590d8e506 | Sep 23 05:18 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:18 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Hi, we're #redhat We promote #microsoft https://opensource.com/article/19/8/variables-powershell | Sep 23 05:18 | |
| schestowitz | Sep 23 05:18 | |
| schestowitz | sellouts to the enemy. n_n | Sep 23 05:18 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> opensource.com | Variables in PowerShell | Opensource.com | Sep 23 05:18 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:18 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15887053#3d300900b094013752370cc47a07853c | Sep 23 05:20 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Instead of promoting #programming #coderradio promotes #microsoft (which is against programming and against developers) https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/134012/interactive-investigations-coder-radio-373/ | Sep 23 05:20 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:20 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Interactive Investigations | Coder Radio 373 | Jupiter Broadcasting | Sep 23 05:20 | |
| schestowitz | Sep 23 05:20 | |
| schestowitz | ive NEVER been a fan of jupiter fraudcasting | Sep 23 05:20 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:20 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15892368#7d2f9e00b09f013709877a163ef10931 | Sep 23 05:20 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Of course the message doesn’t tell you what’s wrong" #microsoft #windows error message totally meaningless, as usual. #gnu #linux MILES ahead of #vista10 https://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/fix-invalid-value-for-registry-error-on-windows-10/ | Sep 23 05:20 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:20 |
| schestowitz | Sep 23 05:20 | |
| schestowitz | Oh come on, I've seen plenty of useless errors on Linux as well. | Sep 23 05:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 05:21 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.addictivetips.com | How to fix the 'Invalid value for registry' error on Windows 10 | Sep 23 05:21 | |
| schestowitz | no monopoly on that | Sep 23 05:21 |
| schestowitz | http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36637/ | Sep 23 06:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lxer.com | LXer: Misses the big picture completely: Call me crazy, but Windows 11 could run on Linux | Sep 23 06:08 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | There's tactics, and then there's strategy. | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft's current tactical moves involve cosying up to Linux. But it's a company that makes its living from proprietary software! Its long-term strategy is to crap on the free-software movement. Today it's "embracing" Linux; that's step 1 of a tried-and-tested plan, "Embrace, extend, extinguish" or "Embrace, extend, exterminate" (google for these terms if you're too young to remember). | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | Other tactical moves involve promoting the misleading term "open source" instead of "Free software", and encouraging the use of weak licenses instead of the GPL licenses that really protect our freedom. | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | It's sad to see respected journalists swallowing the Microsoft bait. | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | mbaehrlxer | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | Sep 20, 2019 | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | 1:40 PM EDTso what exactly is the danger of windows running on top of the linux kernel? | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | it's sure a lot better that not doing that. how will that extend and extinguish step look like? | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | microsoft can't extend the kernel without releasing their code under the GPL, so we'll get access to all their extensions. | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | microsoft might become a dominant kernel contributor and decide the future direction of kernel development. so what? the kernel is already complete. in how many directions can it go now? there is only one that would be a problem. bloating the kernel to make it unusable. that sounds like something microsoft could do. but for what purpose? what would they gain from it? | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | microsofts business is selling proprietary software. if in the future they sell proprietary software running on linux, where exactly is the problem? you don't have to use it. i'd much rather though use that than be forced to use the same software on todays windows. | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | microsoft may try to join and subvert the community. but i have strong doubts that they would succeed, because in order to subvert us, they have to become us. and that is going to affect them more than us. | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | greetings, eMBee. | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | nmset | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | Sep 20, 2019 | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | 2:37 PM EDT>microsoft might become a dominant kernel contributor .... in how many directions can it go now?... but for what purpose? what would they gain from it? | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | While I agree that Microsoft selling licences for their software (closed or not) running on Linux is not a fundamental problem per se, I don't think we should feel comfortable at their buying their place in deciding the future of Linux. They don't see GNU/Linux as a competitor but as a foe, and a foe is an entity to kill. I think we should not be naive here. | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | mbaehrlxer | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | Sep 20, 2019 | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | 6:30 PM EDTpeople keep making that claim. i want to know how they will be able to do it? they can't kill Linux. noone can kill Linux. they can't kill GNU either. they can't even touch GNU. | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | yes, i am making a distinction here. the only way they can take a way our free operating system is by making it illegal. that's not going to work. | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | the only way they can get rid of Linux as a competitor is by joining it. that's not going to kill it either. | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | the only way to kill a competitor is by providing a better product than said competitor or by buying and burying them, or somehow making them bankrupt. none of these tactics work with Free Software. | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | so i beg you please. tell me what i am not seeing. how will Microsoft do this? | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | greetings, eMBee. | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | cr | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | Sep 21, 2019 | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | 12:10 AM EDTAt this point, Lennart Poettering is a more immediate EEE threat: "Systemd-homed: Systemd Now Working To Improve Home Directory Handling" (Slashdot via Alterslash) | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | nmset | Sep 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz | Sep 21, 2019 | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | 5:23 AM EDT>so i beg you please. tell me what i am not seeing. how will Microsoft do this? | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft does not have a survival problem, but a domination one. | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | The root reasoning is : "We must be above anything and anyone else. Nothing can be done without our consent.". If you dig through the hardware of your computers, you'll definitely find a Microsoft key. Whether you disable secure boot or not is not important, they have enough power to force OEMs around the world to comply to their will, however useless it is. This is just to illustrate the preceding phrase. | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | By being of influence in the Linux Foundation and in the Linux ecosystem in general, their next step will be a console line like "Booting by the grace of Microsoft". That will mean "Total control acquired". I'd rather see "systemd" as a boot message. Mechanisms and operational tactics are not worthy of discussion, because they are designed, adapted and refined on the way. | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | There's no need to picture a friendly Epstein in your household affairs. | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | jdixon | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | Sep 21, 2019 | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | 9:54 AM EDT> they can't kill Linux. noone can kill Linux. they can't kill GNU either. they can't even touch GNU. | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | Linus has already taken one leave of absence from kernel development. Stallman is out at MIT and the FSF. | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | Killing Linux, in a practical sense, is entirely possible. The existing code will always be available, but without the driving forces behind it, it will stagnate and not keep up with changes in computing hardware. | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | jdixon | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | Sep 21, 2019 | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | 9:59 AM EDTSpeaking of the above: https://jackbaruth.com/?p=16779 | Sep 23 06:09 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-jackbaruth.com | Weekly Roundup: The Passion Of Saint iGNUcius Edition - Riverside Green | Sep 23 06:09 | |
| schestowitz | I've submitted it to the newswire, but it's possible it won't be accepted. | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | nmset | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | Sep 21, 2019 | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | 10:46 AM EDT>Speaking of the above: https://jackbaruth.com/?p=16779 | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | Very nice and thruthful article, newswire has published less valuable writings than this one. | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | Scott_Ruecker | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | Sep 21, 2019 | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | 2:24 PM EDTI accepted your submission nmset. I am not about to get into a debate regarding how I feel about RMS's recent comments but I saw nothing in the article that was 'over the top' for me. But I will defer to Bob W on these things.. | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | mbaehrlxer | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | Sep 21, 2019 | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | 6:37 PM EDTi reject the idea that the future of Linux and GNU entirely depend on Linus and RMS. if that were so then we would be doomed. because no-one lives forever. they would have to step down sooner or later. and the sooner we learn not to depend on a single person to bring us forward the better off we will be. if we allow Free Software to die with its founder then THAT would be what successfully could kill GNU and Linux. | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | we must learn to make the community be the driving force. | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | greetings, eMBee. | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | cybertao | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | Sep 21, 2019 | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | 7:11 PM EDTThere's a problem with the community though. Many have joined the community from a 'practical' approach rather than ethical. A lot of users are attracted to the price, performance, and stability of free-software but want it to be more like (and support) proprietary software they won't let go of. | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | jdixon | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | Sep 21, 2019 | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | 11:52 PM EDT> i reject the idea that the future of Linux and GNU entirely depend on Linus and RMS | Sep 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz | It's doesn't, but at any given time there will be only be half a dozen or so primary drivers. If you can negate those half a dozen, you can cripple the community for several years. | Sep 23 06:09 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16052623#be5dcc80bfa70137bfbd002590d8e506 | Sep 23 08:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #condenast whose staff >actually< rapes kids is attacking #rms again, pretending he's "not inclusive" https://www.wired.com/story/richard-stallmans-exit-heralds-a-new-era-in-tech/ | Sep 23 08:08 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.wired.com | Richard Stallman’s Exit Heralds a New Era in Tech | WIRED | Sep 23 08:08 | |
| schestowitz | "Worst Thing is that they badmouth anyone, in the headlines, with capital letters, and, If, at some point they retract, it,'s in the foot note, in tiny letters." | Sep 23 08:08 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they think tiny is sexy | Sep 23 08:09 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16052623#be5dcc80bfa70137bfbd002590d8e506 | Sep 23 08:10 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 08:10 |
| schestowitz | i gave up on wired years ago. this is a new low. | Sep 23 08:10 |
| schestowitz | fuck you, conde nast. | Sep 23 08:10 |
| schestowitz | enter image description here | Sep 23 08:10 |
| schestowitz | Alessandro Ebersol | Sep 23 08:10 |
| schestowitz | Alessandro Ebersol - about 10 hours ago | Sep 23 08:10 |
| schestowitz | Worst Thing is that they badmouth anyone, in the headlines, with capital letters, and, If, at some point they retract, it,'s in the foot note, in tiny letters. | Sep 23 08:10 |
| schestowitz | ' | Sep 23 08:10 |
| schestowitz | I can't recall if it was RMS who suggested I call them Conde Nasty | Sep 23 08:10 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16051769#50a8e9f0bf97013752230cc47a07853c | Sep 23 08:11 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #systemd trolls: if you're against systemd, then you're a troll against diversity Reality: systemd is itself against (technical) diversity https://linux.slashdot.org/story/19/09/21/042213/debian-may-need-to-re-evaluate-its-interest-in-init-system-diversity | Sep 23 08:12 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 08:12 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> linux.slashdot.org | Debian May Need To Re-Evaluate Its Interest In 'Init System Diversity' - Slashdot | Sep 23 08:12 | |
| schestowitz | i started out by doubting hartman, i only doubt him more now. | Sep 23 08:12 |
| schestowitz | hes free to prove me wrong. | Sep 23 08:12 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Sep 23 08:12 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - about 12 hours ago | Sep 23 08:12 |
| schestowitz | Google uses the upstart init system for ChromeOS. They must have some reasons for that. | Sep 23 08:12 |
| schestowitz | Also, where is the work they are doing with upstart? I cannot find it anywhere. | Sep 23 08:12 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Sep 23 08:12 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about 12 hours ago | Sep 23 08:12 |
| schestowitz | upstart is dying. i already have at least on script that requires it, so despite not being a fan i think its a huge loss (it wasnt until it was an alternative to systemd. i thought it was silly before that.) | Sep 23 08:12 |
| schestowitz | it has no sponsors and no maintainers that i know of. i doubt it will make a comeback. stuff from canonical is like stuff from google-- a fad. | Sep 23 08:12 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Sep 23 08:12 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about 12 hours ago | Sep 23 08:12 |
| schestowitz | upstart is dying. i already have at least on script that requires it, so despite not being a fan i think its a huge loss (it wasnt until it was an alternative to systemd. i thought it was silly before that.) | Sep 23 08:12 |
| schestowitz | it has no sponsors and no maintainers that i know of. i doubt it will make a comeback. stuff from canonical is like stuff from google-- a fad, a stupid fad and a corporate one. | Sep 23 08:12 |
| schestowitz | but upstart will be missed just because it held things like trisquel together despite systemd. | Sep 23 08:12 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Sep 23 08:12 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - about 7 hours ago | Sep 23 08:12 |
| schestowitz | it has no sponsors and no maintainers that i know of | Sep 23 08:12 |
| schestowitz | Yet Google continues to employ it, and update it also, I assume. | Sep 23 08:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 08:12 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16045357#1fefe8a0bed8013752590cc47a07853c | Sep 23 08:12 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Systemd-homed: #Systemd Now Working To Improve Home Directory Handling http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128363 hardly just an init system. IBM-OS/3? | Sep 23 08:12 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org | Systemd-homed: Systemd Now Working To Improve Home Directory Handling | Tux Machines | Sep 23 08:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16045357#1fefe8a0bed8013752590cc47a07853c | Sep 23 08:13 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 08:13 |
| schestowitz | dont insult os/2 like that. i loved it personally. | Sep 23 08:13 |
| schestowitz | just watched a doc about compaq the other day, ibm and their ps/2 created just to be proprietary. | Sep 23 08:13 |
| schestowitz | the other “compatibles” created their own standard, the customers didnt have to replace billions worth of software, and ibm lost the gamble. youd be right to compare it to ps/2 (and technically, right to compare it to os/2, in a way) but its closer to ps/2 in my opinion-- and os/2 really was cool. it just didnt have any people to develop for it. that was the fault of ibm, though systemd doesnt have that problem. | Sep 23 08:13 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Sep 23 08:13 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - a day ago | Sep 23 08:13 |
| schestowitz | Systemd is indeed a trojan horse. First promoted to improve the init system, then the management of daemons, and now almost an entire OS in and of itself. - Keep it, I don’t want it. | Sep 23 08:13 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Sep 23 08:13 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - a day ago | Sep 23 08:13 |
| schestowitz | step 1: move every part of the gnu system to systemd | Sep 23 08:13 |
| schestowitz | step 2: move every part of systemd to github | Sep 23 08:13 |
| schestowitz | step 3: move every part of that to windows and azure | Sep 23 08:13 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Sep 23 08:13 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - a day ago | Sep 23 08:13 |
| schestowitz | Reject those who claim the entire thing is almost completely unnecessary. | Sep 23 08:13 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Sep 23 08:13 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about 23 hours ago | Sep 23 08:13 |
| schestowitz | absolutely. theres a social element of the takeover, which is plain as day on the debian mailing lists. | Sep 23 08:13 |
| schestowitz | it was all extremely condescending too. | Sep 23 08:14 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Sep 23 08:14 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - about 6 hours ago | Sep 23 08:14 |
| schestowitz | For a very long time, Unix has been living technical proof that “less is more”. And now that’s not true? Who rotated the poles while I wasn’t looking? | Sep 23 08:14 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 08:14 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16051843#e7840280bf950137098d7a163ef10931 | Sep 23 08:14 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Lennart Talks Up systemd's SD-Boot + Boot Loader Specification http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128396 Move over, RMS. LP is coming. It's Microsoft-hosted and it does not tolerate diversity. #ibm #lockin #redhat #systemd #cancerd | Sep 23 08:14 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org | Lennart Talks Up systemd's SD-Boot + Boot Loader Specification | Tux Machines | Sep 23 08:14 | |
| schestowitz | "SD-Boot continues picking up new functionality Why am I not surprised?" | Sep 23 08:14 |
| schestowitz | Move over, SexistLinus and SexistRMS, IBM has a replacement fot you | Sep 23 08:14 |
| schestowitz | Move over, SexistLinus and SexistRMS, IBM has a replacement for you | Sep 23 08:14 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 08:15 |
| schestowitz | #poetterix | Sep 23 08:15 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com | Sep 23 08:15 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about 12 hours ago | Sep 23 08:15 |
| schestowitz | i think its great that hes making an operating system-- i take issue with the fact that ours is being gradually overwritten in the process. | Sep 23 08:15 |
| schestowitz | these are not good updates-- at least they are bad for many of us-- which is why its good to have a modular operating system with simple, reliable functionality at the core. | Sep 23 08:15 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz | Sep 23 08:15 |
| schestowitz | tomgrz - about 7 hours ago | Sep 23 08:15 |
| schestowitz | Something like the Hurd! ;-) | Sep 23 08:15 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 08:15 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15460062#54bee9d08af30137e5880cc47a07853c | Sep 23 08:17 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Kernel : #Systemd 243 and #Linux 5.3 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/125998 | Sep 23 08:17 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Systemd 243 and Linux 5.3 | Tux Machines | Sep 23 08:17 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 08:17 |
| schestowitz | I just heard AMD Ryzen will not work with systemdick. Confirm ? | Sep 23 08:17 |
| schestowitz |  | Sep 23 08:17 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 2 months ago | Sep 23 08:17 |
| schestowitz | I just heard AMD Ryzen will not work with systemdick | Sep 23 08:17 |
| schestowitz | ill take a dozen, please! | Sep 23 08:17 |
| schestowitz |  | Sep 23 08:17 |
| schestowitz | Alessandro Ebersol - 2 months ago | Sep 23 08:17 |
| schestowitz | Here:https://www.muycomputer.com/2019/07/13/ryzen-3000-corrige-problemas-linux/ | Sep 23 08:17 |
| schestowitz | Could not read it yet, but folks told me so. | Sep 23 08:17 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.muycomputer.com | AMD corrige los problemas de los Ryzen 3000 con Linux » MuyComputer | Sep 23 08:17 | |
| schestowitz |  | Sep 23 08:17 |
| schestowitz | sphere@pluspora.com - 2 months ago | Sep 23 08:17 |
| schestowitz | More reasons to boycott the mess called systemd for me | Sep 23 08:17 |
| schestowitz |  | Sep 23 08:17 |
| schestowitz | freemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 2 months ago | Sep 23 08:17 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Librethreat_Database#Redix | Sep 23 08:17 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Librethreat Database - Techrights | Sep 23 08:17 | |
| schestowitz | Mitigation: Avoid / fork / replace / document examples of Redix in software, use Systemd-free distros, assist Hyperbola developers | Sep 23 08:17 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 08:17 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15564445#fd71120095380137e5b60cc47a07853c | Sep 23 08:27 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I'm no #systemd expert. but can the so-called 'experts' (Red Hat/IBM advocates, who use this lock-in to sell support contracts) explain why a so-called 'init system' needs to run 8 processes on my machine which is limited to just 2 GB of RAM? | Sep 23 08:27 | |
| schestowitz | "oh, well-- since youre not a systemd expert, be sure to post your question in the vicinity of one of the developer lairs, and theyll be happy to explain why youre too stupid to understand why systemd is the best init in every possible deployment. then theyll tell you to go shave your greybeard." | Sep 23 08:27 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15859485#75564a10ae310137096d7a163ef10931 | Sep 23 08:28 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How to List All Running Services Under #Systemd in #Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127587 | Sep 23 08:28 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org | How to List All Running Services Under Systemd in Linux | Tux Machines | Sep 23 08:28 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 08:28 |
| schestowitz | Sep 23 08:28 | |
| schestowitz | "Most if not all modern Linux distributions now use the same process manager: systemd." Not true, and less true each month. | Sep 23 08:28 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 08:28 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15898411#42b48530b13901378d81002590d8e506 | Sep 23 08:29 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The release cycle of #Systemd seems far too fast and with no alpha-betas. No wonder it has some many bugs, some of which highly critical. And it's hosted by #nsa PRISM ( #microsoft #github - i.e. proprietary) | Sep 23 08:29 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 08:29 |
| schestowitz | Sep 23 08:29 | |
| schestowitz | But that's the idea: Release weekly, so the others can't catch up. Lock only the distros that matter inside (RHEL, Fedora, CentOS) and lock everyone else outside. Screw the others. That says a lot about the project, its funder's and its leader. | Sep 23 08:29 |
| schestowitz | > I've tried de-duplicating the merged links this time. The output is not | Sep 23 08:44 |
| schestowitz | > yet quite proper XHTML though. | Sep 23 08:44 |
| schestowitz | Excellent, thanks. The format is good. | Sep 23 08:44 |
| schestowitz | Are we leaving behind the one line [title] [url] | Sep 23 08:44 |
| schestowitz | Did tidy remove it? | Sep 23 08:44 |
| schestowitz | >> There are almost always items, more so for busy feeds, that appear again | Sep 23 08:45 |
| schestowitz | >> across dates (bottom of list of items for the next day) -- an | Sep 23 08:45 |
| schestowitz | >> unspecified number of them. Can the existing dupe remover (coded in | Sep 23 08:45 |
| schestowitz | >> Perl) be used to compare one day to the previous? | Sep 23 08:46 |
| schestowitz | > I think so. I've made an attempt at it in today's batch. | Sep 23 08:46 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 23 08:46 |
| schestowitz | > I'll need a bit of time to review what I have a figure out how to put it | Sep 23 08:46 |
| schestowitz | > into the work flow and make sure it works. It will be a bit harder | Sep 23 08:46 |
| schestowitz | > because of the non-HTML social control media links added in. I have | Sep 23 08:46 |
| schestowitz | > taken that part out and then can later find a way to add it in after the | Sep 23 08:46 |
| schestowitz | > de-duplication then it should work. | Sep 23 08:46 |
| schestowitz | That makes sense. Also a separator between different feed sources might help (or many new lines). Helps me not post from the same source many times in a row. | Sep 23 08:46 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Korben/status/1176054109520236544 | Sep 23 10:03 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Korben: Microsoft is Not an Open Source Authority But an Opponent of Open Source | Techrights - https://t.co/bdmwHZbLfK #kbn | Sep 23 10:03 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Microsoft is Not an Open Source Authority But an Opponent of Open Source | Techrights | Sep 23 10:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Bizitzarenjokoa/status/1176051989140168704 | Sep 23 10:21 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Bizitzarenjokoa: @schestowitz People avoid stressing events at any cost. | Sep 23 10:21 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sandyhewett71/status/1176063419453071360 | Sep 23 10:21 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@sandyhewett71: It has begun https://t.co/mAVA3GEPbc | Sep 23 10:21 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: TIL the person who called to "remove Stallman" and leaked correspondence to Murdoch-connected media to achieve this… https://t.co/qzM3XUjI0C | Sep 23 10:21 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/F0zzyB3ars/status/1176115583055802375 | Sep 23 14:34 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@F0zzyB3ars: If you ever want to see how fucking whackadoo @GNUplusLINUX is, read anything he writes on https://t.co/SioMD02eGH | Sep 23 14:34 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Techrights | People's rights in the digital age | Plutocracy threatened by freedom, democracy, privacy & civil rights | Sep 23 14:34 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 14:34 |
| schestowitz | If you ever want to see how fucking whackadoo | Sep 23 14:34 |
| schestowitz | @GNUplusLINUX | Sep 23 14:34 |
| schestowitz | is, read anything he writes on http://techrights.org | Sep 23 14:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 14:34 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/1humanagenda/status/1176137852675121152 | Sep 23 18:37 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@1humanagenda: @schestowitz @glynmoody REGRET-A #CLIMATE CHANGE INFO https://t.co/pRV0Stud2T https://t.co/t9eh7qRrNj… https://t.co/o7tWrO3cpR | Sep 23 18:37 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.youtube.com | Making Artificial Cloud for Rain - YouTube | Sep 23 18:37 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.youtube.com | Climate Change - The Truth Exposed! - YouTube | Sep 23 18:37 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@1humanagenda: @schestowitz @glynmoody REGRET-A #CLIMATE CHANGE INFO https://t.co/pRV0Stud2T https://t.co/t9eh7qRrNj… https://t.co/o7tWrO3cpR | Sep 23 18:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/doombadroid/status/1176166284293111808 | Sep 23 18:38 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@doombadroid: @schestowitz Neither? Of all the dems so far only Yang is even remotely decent. None stand a snowballs chance in he… https://t.co/jCo6i5t7xx | Sep 23 18:38 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@doombadroid: @schestowitz Neither? Of all the dems so far only Yang is even remotely decent. None stand a snowballs chance in he… https://t.co/jCo6i5t7xx | Sep 23 18:38 | |
| schestowitz | "Neither? Of all the dems so far only Yang is even remotely decent. None stand a snowballs chance in hell in 2020. Esp after how the DNC has become an "out liberal the other" fest." | Sep 23 18:38 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Johncassidy62/status/1176208939328921601 | Sep 23 19:59 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Johncassidy62: @schestowitz It's an excellent program. I am just diving deeper into it. I might start consulting again. | Sep 23 19:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/marcbraz/status/1176213787847921664 | Sep 23 20:23 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@marcbraz: @liquuid ainda sobre o avanço das bigcorporações capitalistas no open-source. Tem um advogado desta área que defend… https://t.co/8qNoXtj9r0 | Sep 23 20:23 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@marcbraz: @liquuid ainda sobre o avanço das bigcorporações capitalistas no open-source. Tem um advogado desta área que defend… https://t.co/8qNoXtj9r0 | Sep 23 20:23 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 20:23 |
| schestowitz | @liquuid ainda sobre o avanço das bigcorporações capitalistas no open-source. Tem um advogado desta área que defende que quem tá facilitando o processo é a fund. linux(dot).com: | Sep 23 20:23 |
| schestowitz | Translated from Portuguese by Microsoft | Sep 23 20:23 |
| schestowitz | @liquuid Yet on the advancement of the capitalist bigcorporations in the open-source. There is a lawyer in this area who argues that those who are facilitating the process are the fund. Linux (dot). com: | Sep 23 20:23 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 20:23 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/LinuxNewsToday/comments/d8assu/department_of_war_and_ibm_among_top_clients_of/ | Sep 23 21:18 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.reddit.com | Department of War and IBM Among Top Clients of Richard Stallman's Alleged Ouster : LinuxNewsToday | Sep 23 21:18 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/martandjoshi/status/1176226441668825089 | Sep 23 21:34 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@martandjoshi: Is @Microsoft really a #newking of #opensource ? #GoodRead https://t.co/wr8OgXX98c | Sep 23 21:34 | |
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