●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, September 23, 2022 ●● ● Sep 23 [00:31] *Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-cu4.55m.ksenbp.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 23 [01:08] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [01:10] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:32] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [01:32] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 23 [02:02] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.13 [SeaMonkey 2.53.13/20220708150114]) [02:03] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@mztzs6dkpajw6.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 23 [03:59] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell ● Sep 23 [04:00] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 23 [05:52] Techrights-sec Google made that move several years ago already. [05:57] schestowitz-TR ' [05:58] schestowitz-TR the suggestions you made are good [05:58] schestowitz-TR if you push them upstream tell me so I can run a git diff ('show') [05:58] schestowitz-TR and amend manutally at my side for consisntency [05:58] schestowitz-TR ' [05:58] schestowitz-TR you can split apart and expand too [05:58] schestowitz-TR I think Daily Links are very important [05:58] schestowitz-TR and this overlaps TM ● Sep 23 [06:50] *acer-box__ (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [06:51] *acer-box has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) ● Sep 23 [08:09] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [08:31] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 23 [09:04] *starstreak has quit (connection closed) [09:04] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:08] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [09:08] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:14] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [09:35] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:40] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [09:40] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:41] Techrights-sec It's all but impossible to connect to GMail using IMAPS since they made their [09:41] Techrights-sec changes, and they've never provided standards-compliant support for the [09:41] Techrights-sec protocol in the first place. [09:41] schestowitz-TR i have updated my links template [09:46] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [09:58] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Sep 23 [10:02] Techrights-sec ack [10:03] schestowitz-TR going to cyclke to the shop soon [10:03] schestowitz-TR last of the season [10:03] schestowitz-TR still have epo mnaterial, cannot find the time yet to record about it [10:03] schestowitz-TR maybe tonight [10:10] Techrights-sec EPO material is very important IMHO [10:11] schestowitz-TR yeah, this one set of docs is not urgent [10:21] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 23 [11:30] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Sep 23 [12:12] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [12:12] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [12:23] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [12:23] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 23 [13:44] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell ● Sep 23 [14:05] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:07] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:07] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:07] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:13] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:14] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:14] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [14:15] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 23 [15:54] schestowitz-TR put away, covered, bicycle and garden furnishing till march or thereabouts [15:54] schestowitz-TR we did manage to find some foods, but finding discounts got very hard [15:54] schestowitz-TR and not as good, either [15:54] schestowitz-TR still doable [15:54] schestowitz-TR also got in the post a letter about further big increases in energy prices [15:54] schestowitz-TR despite modest decreses in usage we expect price to be double in a matter of 2 years [15:54] schestowitz-TR if one has a car (petrol) and children, this is magnified bya lot [15:54] schestowitz-TR and car ownership if connected to kids as they cannot walk long distances [15:54] schestowitz-TR based on what I read and hear, we are lucky [15:54] schestowitz-TR the vindication is there, some mistakes cannot be undone ● Sep 23 [16:04] schestowitz-TR --- [16:04] schestowitz-TR several points [16:04] schestowitz-TR 1) fruit is hard to find at low prices since months ago [16:04] schestowitz-TR not related to covid-19, maybe brexit lost us fruit pickers and imports [16:04] schestowitz-TR 2) we did check prices of energy from other supplers earlier this year; turns out ours is already at the lower scale, maybe cheapest [16:04] schestowitz-TR 2a) our friends who are a couple pay more than double [16:04] schestowitz-TR 2b) i turn off some things now when afk (unlike before) [16:04] schestowitz-TR 3) yesterday in irc i said that the more "sophisticated" (didn't say smart; the word became misleading) a car gets [16:04] schestowitz-TR the more expensive or hard it is to repair [16:04] schestowitz-TR some you can no longer tweak or fix yourself like a bicycle (like getting some parts off ebay, unscrewing etc) [16:04] schestowitz-TR 4) apropos, i read (quickly) the link about finland importing liquified russian gas [16:04] schestowitz-TR they are so desperate they literally subsidise an aggressive, insane neighbour [16:04] schestowitz-TR bu t worry not, microcloth will warm up the homes [16:04] schestowitz-TR by running some datacentres (pentagon spying apparatus) on solar ;-) in winter ;-) it runs on air!! [16:04] schestowitz-TR 5) mechanics are dishonest also because few are independent [16:05] schestowitz-TR they are pressured to meet "targets" [16:05] schestowitz-TR and the agencies are connected to the makers, which cannot sell many "new products" so instead milk existing clientele [16:05] schestowitz-TR like apple sending price on a steep spike because they cannot sell many anymore (so price unit changed, or "app" ... 'maintenance') [16:05] schestowitz-TR of course they blame "supply chain" to buy time from impatient shareholders... like how FB's shares tanked [16:05] schestowitz-TR impacts morale, too [16:05] schestowitz-TR the price of energy is no laughing matter [16:05] schestowitz-TR to some people they say it is "eye-watering" [16:05] schestowitz-TR "I CAN'T PAY IT *looking for shouldee rto cry on*" [16:05] schestowitz-TR so we practice reducing usage and reusing energy [16:05] schestowitz-TR like cooking more things at once in a smaller oven [16:05] schestowitz-TR making showers shorter (gas-based boiler) [16:05] schestowitz-TR from what I saw, our energy suppler changed the rate for electricty from 17/unit about 2 years ago to 32 or 35 [16:05] schestowitz-TR i don't watch gas closely; gas is used a lot less here (only water heating) [16:05] schestowitz-TR i think that's all for now [16:05] schestowitz-TR I still put finance news in the main TR channel as it is an urgent matter [16:05] schestowitz-TR I added number above to make referencing easier [16:05] Techrights-sec ack [16:07] schestowitz-TR now the news cycle talks about making cities more efficient [16:07] schestowitz-TR to avert any discussion of cities being massive consumers of energy partly because they're a massive concentration [16:07] schestowitz-TR of "human biomass" [16:07] schestowitz-TR which needs heat and more... food.. fertiliser, transport... [16:07] schestowitz-TR the only solution sounds like incitement to genocide rather than birth control [16:14] schestowitz-TR maybe if we use terms like "biomass" (like ants) for dramatic effect [16:15] schestowitz-TR people will start paying more attention [16:15] schestowitz-TR I wonder what % of mammels is humans who cannot even warm themselves where they reside or easily overheat in summar [16:15] schestowitz-TR *summer [16:15] schestowitz-TR the queen is now dead (we will need to cash in our 2000 or so in coins!) [16:15] schestowitz-TR so delusions of grandeur go away [16:15] schestowitz-TR the suffering is coming home, too [16:15] schestowitz-TR coming home to roost [16:15] schestowitz-TR starting with domestic "peasants" and plebs [16:15] schestowitz-TR they will not tolerate the parasites at the top [16:15] schestowitz-TR they will pass more laws [16:15] schestowitz-TR to us, the digital laws are relevant [16:20] Techrights-sec ack [16:20] Techrights-sec much of the privatized car ownership will have to be eliminated from the cities [16:20] Techrights-sec and even for visitors to the cities if things are to balance in time [16:20] schestowitz-TR decimated too [16:20] schestowitz-TR or more public transport [16:20] schestowitz-TR for families it means being better balanced on budget and more robust to changes in prices [16:20] schestowitz-TR i think by year's end not many publishers will stay [16:20] schestowitz-TR eff is becoming a "big business" lobby like LF [16:20] schestowitz-TR they don't do what they were meant to do [16:20] schestowitz-TR to survive they get absorbed by the enemy [16:20] schestowitz-TR like canonical with GAFAM [16:20] schestowitz-TR and then they say "success" [16:20] schestowitz-TR while disgusted people walk away [16:20] schestowitz-TR like happened to novell [16:20] Techrights-sec I wonder if or how long the FreeBSD foundation or even the OpenBSD Foundation [16:20] Techrights-sec can hold out before following the sell-out model that the EFF and LF have [16:20] Techrights-sec chosen to follow. [16:23] schestowitz-TR LF is already imploding a bit [16:23] schestowitz-TR part of that is a lack of events, due to covid-19 [16:23] schestowitz-TR 40 million a year iirc [16:23] schestowitz-TR and they have no grassroots support anymore [16:23] schestowitz-TR so they will suck up harder and hardeer to github etc. [16:26] Techrights-sec One of the things that the FreeBSD Foundation has worked hard at is to ensure [16:26] Techrights-sec that there are many small donors, too, not just big ones. They may not be [16:26] Techrights-sec the source of the most money but they seem to be enough, for now, to prevent [16:26] Techrights-sec some of the less scrupulous donord from walking all over the project and looting [16:26] Techrights-sec it. [16:26] Techrights-sec There were two relevant (old) articles linked to today or yesterday regarding [16:26] Techrights-sec the danger of M$ GitHub to projects and to the community in general. [16:40] Techrights-sec I'd rather the LF expel the microsofters, microsoft apologists, and [16:40] Techrights-sec GPL-abusers in a reform. I recall about 10 years ago, Linus gave that [16:40] Techrights-sec famous Q&A session where he swore at Nvidia and then commented about the GPL [16:40] Techrights-sec choice being his best decision ever. Giving the finger to Nvidia on camera [16:40] Techrights-sec got a lot of attention, but his bosses at LF, and their bosses, probably [16:40] Techrights-sec decided that they would have to do him in over the GPL support at that point. [16:40] Techrights-sec Bruce Perens pointed out that the LF had become more or less a GPL infringers' [16:40] Techrights-sec club. [16:40] schestowitz-TR LF does damage [16:41] schestowitz-TR so we need to reciprocate the damage [16:43] Techrights-sec They are helping Google / Alphabet and M$ to render the kernel moot. [16:43] Techrights-sec The latter through restricted boot and OEM monopolies, the former through [16:43] Techrights-sec their monopoly on smartphones and similar devices which, once the courts clear, [16:43] Techrights-sec will move quickly to Fuchsia. [16:43] schestowitz-TR seconds ago, while multitasking, I added an update abour Framework Chromebook [16:43] schestowitz-TR some people who tried that said it sucked [16:44] schestowitz-TR not sure they really tried it hands-on [16:44] schestowitz-TR and they were in a podcast connected to Microsofters [16:44] schestowitz-TR so maybe just the usual badmouthing [16:44] schestowitz-TR like wsl boosting [16:44] schestowitz-TR this week you can really see who's serious about 'linux' [16:44] schestowitz-TR and who is a pretender or totally clueless (wsl trash) [16:44] Techrights-sec Framework has gotten otherwise good reviews [16:44] Techrights-sec so unless there is something specific to ChromeOS I am suspicious of such [16:44] Techrights-sec outlier reviews. [16:44] Techrights-sec Canonical is no longer serious. [16:46] schestowitz-TR framework and several toehrs are subsidised by someones [16:46] schestowitz-TR to seed faker reviews [16:46] schestowitz-TR I could name others, but not important for irc (informal) [16:47] schestowitz-TR it's very easy to tell when a review is real [16:47] schestowitz-TR phoronix quit being serious [16:47] schestowitz-TR i was thinking today when cycling that all those that are funded by VC and ebt [16:47] schestowitz-TR they will be forced to sell out [16:47] schestowitz-TR even against their will [16:47] schestowitz-TR ads, corporate cash, anytrhing! [16:47] schestowitz-TR they are not REALLY in chargwe in any sense [16:47] schestowitz-TR like om malik (gigaom) [16:47] schestowitz-TR maybe they dislike their own decisions [16:47] schestowitz-TR maybe linus still doesn't trust rust [16:47] Techrights-sec Yes, the loss of Phoronix was sad. [16:47] Techrights-sec VC tends to insist on sw patents, iirc [16:47] Techrights-sec and almost prefer liquidation / bankruptcy to a successful launch [16:47] Techrights-sec Maybe it's less work or less paperwork or a faster, but smaller, return on [16:47] Techrights-sec the investment. [16:48] schestowitz-TR maybe the goal is all along a shutdown [16:48] schestowitz-TR need to chase the financial chain [16:58] Techrights-sec Yeah pump-and-dump is an accepted tactic by some. IPO-and-crash is a variant. ● Sep 23 [17:01] schestowitz-TR got KGs of soft mozarella cheese today almost quarter price [17:01] schestowitz-TR any saving can be used to sustain the sites [17:01] schestowitz-TR but it takes more effort to find these [17:01] schestowitz-TR we checked small fridges last weekend [17:01] schestowitz-TR but they are expensive to buy, even "on the cheap" [17:01] schestowitz-TR and then you pay to operate them [17:01] schestowitz-TR the rpcies of eggs here is INSANE [17:02] Techrights-sec Small fridges are very inefficient, energywise. There is an optimal size, [17:02] Techrights-sec for home use, but that optimal size is substantially larger than 'small' [17:05] schestowitz-TR ok, we need sauce for some of these [17:05] schestowitz-TR maybe monday we can get missing ingredients [17:05] schestowitz-TR we have lots of lasagne sheets in the freezer [17:05] schestowitz-TR but need more stuff [17:05] schestowitz-TR I'm going to record in a bit [17:05] schestowitz-TR news has slowed down for the friday [17:05] schestowitz-TR i need to produce more articles/day but am struggling [17:05] schestowitz-TR to make enough time for it [17:05] schestowitz-TR not too sure why [17:11] schestowitz-TR i doin't want to sayu lost or wasted time in irc [17:11] schestowitz-TR but i think it was a big part of that lately [17:11] schestowitz-TR many still envy a thriving irc channel [17:11] schestowitz-TR and more so a good irc NETWORK [17:11] schestowitz-TR it also gives a human cloud to the site [17:11] schestowitz-TR otherwise iot's a site writing to itself [17:11] schestowitz-TR and lack of feedback can reduce morale [17:11] Techrights-sec yes, the IRC *network* part is the most significant aspect. I am saddened [17:11] Techrights-sec that the EFF and FSF don't have their own or share their own [17:13] schestowitz-TR i was wrong [17:13] schestowitz-TR the chef says we do have the neede ingredient [17:13] schestowitz-TR except the cheese type is not ideal [17:13] schestowitz-TR it's the one in a bag with water/brine [17:13] schestowitz-TR we'll see.. [17:13] schestowitz-TR we have too many sheets in the freezer, good opportunity to make space there [17:17] schestowitz-TR -- [17:17] schestowitz-TR she says ok [17:17] schestowitz-TR it'll be vegetarian [17:17] schestowitz-TR we have enough for 2 or more [17:17] schestowitz-TR i start work in 15 mins [17:17] schestowitz-TR will still post tm news [17:17] schestowitz-TR gulag noise (voice, not news) failed to function yesterday [17:17] schestowitz-TR the asterisk phone is a lot more reliable [17:17] schestowitz-TR so i wrote in public it's a "broen product" [17:17] schestowitz-TR *broken [17:17] schestowitz-TR not my problem, i'm not s shareholder [17:17] schestowitz-TR they can die in the clown [17:17] schestowitz-TR "we died, but we did it in style with all the trendy shit' [17:19] Techrights-sec Louis Rossmann had a recent brief video praising GrapheneOS which he now has [17:19] Techrights-sec on his phone. He gives an informative review of it. [17:19] Techrights-sec s/gives/gave/ [17:45] schestowitz https://www.dedoimedo.com/life/vw-t-roc-2-0-tdi-review.html [17:45] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.dedoimedo.com | Volkswagen T-Roc 2.0 TDI review - A chunky, fun SUV [17:45] schestowitz first post from him in a veyr long time [17:45] schestowitz I totally forgot about him [17:45] schestowitz another voice silently vanishing [17:45] schestowitz and you don't even notice till... [17:51] schestowitz https://www.fosslife.org/kubernetes-basics-explained [17:51] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fosslife.org | Kubernetes Basics Explained [17:51] schestowitz " [17:51] schestowitz Once you've written your first container-based application and have it running in Docker or Podman, you're ready to move to the next level, says Don Schenck. That means multiple applications microservices running within a managed environment, such as Kubernetes. [17:51] schestowitz In this article, Schenck briefly explains Kubernetes basics, including names, ports, YAML files, secrets, and more. [17:51] schestowitz " ● Sep 23 [18:11] schestowitz [18:10] Phoronix marketing spam: "Solidigm kindly provided the 1TB and 2TB units as review samples for testing at Phoronix. They provided two of the 1GB drives, which will be interesting for a Linux RAID follow-up benchmarking article." https://www.phoronix.com/review/solidigm-p41-plus [18:11] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Solidigm P41 Plus NVMe SSD Review - Phoronix [18:11] schestowitz about $300 in gifts [18:11] schestowitz less than a day's work [18:14] Techrights-sec ack [18:14] Techrights-sec :( [18:14] schestowitz-TR just to be very clear: [18:14] schestowitz-TR he is NOT returning these [18:14] schestowitz-TR he keeps them for "just in case" [18:14] schestowitz-TR future "benchmarks" [18:14] schestowitz-TR then ebay or whatever [18:16] schestowitz-TR --- [18:16] schestowitz-TR i remember when he used to actually buy what he reviwed [18:16] schestowitz-TR in irc I posted other reecent examples [18:16] schestowitz-TR sp-called newsa na revie sites [18:16] schestowitz-TR that even admit upfront they review a product sent to them by the company [18:16] schestowitz-TR and the review was "sponsored" [18:16] schestowitz-TR www = disinfo [18:16] schestowitz-TR another kind of it [18:19] schestowitz-TR --- [18:19] schestowitz-TR so you look at marketing basically [18:19] schestowitz-TR good value for money for these companies [18:19] schestowitz-TR phoronix is collecitn lots of laptops sent to him [18:19] schestowitz-TR from all the supposedly "linux" OEMs [18:19] schestowitz-TR for "benchmarks" [18:19] schestowitz-TR but AMD was the step too far [18:19] schestowitz-TR those CPUs are incredible expensive [18:19] schestowitz-TR he can "liquidate one per 6 months and living off it for 6 months where he is [18:19] schestowitz-TR IL or Mich. iirc [18:19] schestowitz-TR *incredibly [18:19] schestowitz-TR "EPYC" [18:19] schestowitz-TR and "threadripper" [18:19] schestowitz-TR even ampere sent him one [18:19] schestowitz-TR they cost like a car [18:19] Techrights-sec spiraling into debt to vendors [18:19] Techrights-sec yes but its not a beneficial relationship for him. They have started him on [18:19] Techrights-sec a death spiral and are extracting value on his way down. He, in return, gets [18:19] Techrights-sec little to nothing in exchange for burning his followership. [18:22] schestowitz-TR the cycle, ime, goes like this [18:22] schestowitz-TR site gains reputation [18:22] schestowitz-TR gains following [18:22] schestowitz-TR faces financial dilemma [18:22] schestowitz-TR ("i want to do this full time") [18:22] schestowitz-TR readers chiop in (or supporters, a la fsf) [18:22] schestowitz-TR then it's not enough [18:22] schestowitz-TR never enough [18:22] schestowitz-TR so you signal you need "big bucks" [18:22] schestowitz-TR you get some [18:22] schestowitz-TR and then small sponsored feel unnecessary [18:22] schestowitz-TR and stop funding [18:22] schestowitz-TR then the site/org is depeendent on the "big money" [18:22] schestowitz-TR LF used to get money off of people's credit card spendings [18:22] schestowitz-TR when you reach this last phase you are at the mercy of the wrong entiries [18:22] schestowitz-TR like christine hall [18:22] schestowitz-TR asking for MONEY for fossforce like 8 years ago [18:22] schestowitz-TR raised over $1000 [18:22] schestowitz-TR when kenstarks wrote therer [18:22] schestowitz-TR now sporting LF spam all over the site [18:23] schestowitz-TR they planted a flag there [18:23] schestowitz-TR psydroid2: giftronix [18:26] schestowitz-TR just checked; half od today'd phoronix articles have no comments [18:26] schestowitz-TR reminds me of ipwatchdog [18:26] schestowitz-TR later they start hiding the count [18:26] schestowitz-TR spamnil started hiding viewcounts too [18:26] schestowitz-TR just checked [18:26] schestowitz-TR yes, it's still hidden [18:26] schestowitz-TR it wasn't like this before [18:26] schestowitz-TR in youtube he cannot hide # of vieww [18:26] schestowitz-TR so needs to pay for clickfraud [18:26] schestowitz-TR checking youtube.. [18:26] schestowitz-TR no videos in 3 days already [18:26] schestowitz-TR there are videos there for over 1 week with 13 views [18:26] schestowitz-TR better hurry up with those bots, swap [18:27] Techrights-sec Again, I say it looks like a goal of the LF is to create animosity against [18:27] Techrights-sec the brand and degrade the trademark. [18:29] schestowitz-TR i don't see the framing like this [18:29] schestowitz-TR rather than ctively attack it [18:29] schestowitz-TR they milk it [18:29] schestowitz-TR "monetise it" [18:29] schestowitz-TR for short-term money-grabbing self-promotiunal purposes [18:29] schestowitz-TR and the members take a share of the deflation [18:29] schestowitz-TR as they deflame 30 years of gratis advocacy's value [18:29] schestowitz-TR apple is still a very powerful brand [18:29] schestowitz-TR but apple spent many billions lying to people [18:29] schestowitz-TR so they revere it [18:29] schestowitz-TR seen it in paid placement in movies etc. [18:29] schestowitz-TR paid celebs in queues in apple sotres.. [18:29] Techrights-sec That too, the two types of attack are not mutually exclusive. [18:29] Techrights-sec It is, in part, the organizational equivalent of character assassination so [18:29] Techrights-sec that no one complains when the plug is pulled. [18:32] schestowitz-TR wow, spamnil has done clickfruad for 5 months already [18:32] schestowitz-TR if you go beyond that you see [18:32] schestowitz-TR 6 months, 13 views lol [18:32] schestowitz-TR that's like 1 view per 2 weeks [18:32] schestowitz-TR fleecing firms via LF [18:32] schestowitz-TR frauds [18:33] Techrights-sec yep [18:33] schestowitz-TR open sores [18:37] schestowitz-TR in hindsight, re brand dilution [18:37] schestowitz-TR in his video he has a wal with the word "linux" on it [18:37] schestowitz-TR the show is about proprietary crap [18:37] schestowitz-TR and the show is done on an apple mac [18:47] Techrights-sec Yes, one of the goals is to milk the brand while destroying its value and [18:47] Techrights-sec reputation. With the reputation gone, it cannot come back. With the value gone [18:47] Techrights-sec no one will be able to afford to try. [18:47] Techrights-sec Linus is in the unenviable situation where his imployer is actively working [18:47] Techrights-sec against him and working to eradicate his past, present, and future work. [18:48] schestowitz-TR works [18:48] schestowitz-TR github [18:48] schestowitz-TR remember what it does [18:48] schestowitz-TR commodity under attack [18:49] Techrights-sec s/work/works/ [18:49] Techrights-sec Yes, that's a general theme everywhere: decommoditization [18:49] Techrights-sec see also your comments about e-mail protocols earlier [18:49] Techrights-sec Other areas include productivity software file formats and even GNU/Linux distros, the latter via systemd [18:52] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@58nejqa2kp9h2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 23 [19:11] schestowitz-TR Connection to Linux? ZERO! Why cover this? "Thanks to Rakoit for sending us the Arylic S50 Pro+ for todays audio test." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/09/23/review-arylic-s50-pro-wireless-stereo-pre-amplifier/ [19:11] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cnx-software.com | Review of Arylic S50 Pro+ wireless stereo pre-amplifier - CNX Software [19:15] schestowitz-TR Microsoft moles in Linux kernel, destroying POSIX https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/91c21f32-cc6f-2c2e-ebf7-d1d738090aef@paragon-software.com/ [19:16] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lore.kernel.org | [PATCH 0/2] fs/ntfs3: Add option "nocase" and refactoring - Konstantin Komarov [19:18] Techrights-sec There was a blog post recently about FreeBSD and the maneuver to sink [19:18] Techrights-sec POSIX rather than update it. [19:18] Techrights-sec Eliminating POSIX was pushed as a good thing by that blogger. [19:18] Techrights-sec POSIX is far more important than most people know, even among those few that [19:18] Techrights-sec know of POSIX. [19:20] schestowitz-TR when many systems can integrate we reduce wasteful coding [19:20] schestowitz-TR when many systemd bits of shit infect stuff, and get changes every release (weeks apart) [19:20] schestowitz-TR we have islands and things like ssh can barely work [19:20] schestowitz-TR no consistent universl rules for file names [19:20] schestowitz-TR systemd is not controlled by Microsoft [19:20] schestowitz-TR (now [19:22] schestowitz-TR Microsoft-funded 'analyst': "If we normalize projects baiting developers with an open source license to gain traction and switching to a non-open source license to monopolize the returns on that traction, then the logical next step for investors will be skipping that first step entirely." https://redmonk.com/sogrady/2022/09/23/dead-end/ [19:22] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-redmonk.com | The Dead End tecosystems [19:25] Techrights-sec It's the parable of the broken window all over again: [19:25] Techrights-sec http://bastiat.org/en/twisatwins.html#SECTION_G002 [19:25] Techrights-sec The world benefits when there are commodities and when the effort goes into [19:25] Techrights-sec growth and improvement and efficiency. A tiny minority benefit, at the cost [19:25] Techrights-sec of everyone else, when things are not commodities. Some 15 years ago [19:25] Techrights-sec there was a lot of public and high-level discussion of commodity markets. [19:25] Techrights-sec Even Nokia chairman Jorma Ollila spoke about the benefits of commodity markets. [19:25] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-bastiat.org | That Which is Seen, and That Which is Not Seen; by Frederic Bastiat [19:25] Techrights-sec Though the articles covering those statements have long since been eradicated [19:25] Techrights-sec from magazines, newspapers, and journals stil in existence. ● Sep 23 [20:16] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:43] *Mio14 has quit (Connection closed) [20:44] *Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-rh1.ag9.u5m0nn.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 23 [21:24] *Mio14 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) ● Sep 23 [22:13] DaemonFC systemd doesn't even work consistently between GNU/Linux distributions. [22:13] DaemonFC Its goal isn't to have stable releases. [22:16] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [22:17] schestowitz > https://youtu.be/WjG3VoX3Ldk [22:17] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Invidious: https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=WjG3VoX3Ldk [22:17] schestowitz Good video. Thanks! [22:17] schestowitz Will share. [22:17] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> invidious.snopyta.org | Record excess deaths in Europe - Invidious [22:17] schestowitz Yesterday: [22:17] schestowitz https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/22/figures-from-office-for-national-statistics/ [22:17] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Figures From UKs Office for National Statistics (ONS) Confirm: This Past Summer COVID-19 Caused the Most Deaths [22:18] schestowitz-TR Record Excess Deaths in Europe https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/23/record-excess-deaths-in-europe/ [22:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Record Excess Deaths in Europe [22:24] schestowitz > https://youtu.be/WjG3VoX3Ldk [22:24] schestowitz I sent this to rianne. She says she knows him and watched many of his videos. [22:24] schestowitz What he says is similar to what I've written hundreds of blog posts about, citing the official data, based it on verifiable facts. [22:34] *techrights_guest|84 (~0e61191e@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 23 [23:04] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: right [23:05] schestowitz-TR and ICBM has advantage [23:05] schestowitz-TR or Microsoft [23:05] schestowitz-TR they can intentionally break other distros [23:08] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: also see the video above [23:22] *techrights_guest|84 has quit (Quit: Connection closed)