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| Techrights-sec | maintenance finished | Nov 23 00:07 |
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| schestowitz-TR | see email | Nov 23 00:07 |
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| schestowitz | gemini stats show interest in the shithub series. I have lots more... | Nov 23 00:23 |
| schestowitz | I just need to figure out more ways to make Daily Links etc. more efficient to free up time for videos, articles, I'm already stretching the limits, but I know further improvements can be made | Nov 23 00:24 |
| Techrights-sec | Any ideas for improvements with the scripting? | Nov 23 00:26 |
| schestowitz | If the so-called 'Aye Pee' feeds could be automated, but they need close scrutiny and many come from GulagNoise, so it is not doable | Nov 23 00:26 |
| Techrights-sec | $ cat workflow.txt | Nov 23 00:27 |
| Techrights-sec | ../../Git/Links/links-check-spam-sites.pl $(date +"%F.html") && ../../Git/Links/links-check-camelcase.pl $(date +"%F | Nov 23 00:27 |
| Techrights-sec | .html") && ../../bin/merge-daily-links.sh && ../../bin/links-upload.sh && ../template.sh | Nov 23 00:27 |
| Techrights-sec | Fetchning a second list of links would be no problem but if the quality / | Nov 23 00:28 |
| Techrights-sec | signal-to-noise ratio is low then they should go in a second file and | Nov 23 00:28 |
| Techrights-sec | not the merged file. | Nov 23 00:28 |
| schestowitz | I thought about just giving up completely on some of those feeds, but few examine those matters, so it's risky to let lawyers and frauds dominate 100% of the coverage online | Nov 23 00:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | Also, they eply to me and you can see they're hurt | Nov 23 00:31 |
| Techrights-sec | Agreed, on both parts. It's toilsome but necessary to prevent ceding the | Nov 23 00:32 |
| Techrights-sec | domain 100% to frauds. | Nov 23 00:32 |
| Techrights-sec | Hurt is an unfortunate side effect but if they correct their bullshit, and | Nov 23 00:32 |
| Techrights-sec | lie less often, then it would not happen. Those are mostly pushing lies on | Nov 23 00:32 |
| Techrights-sec | the public, espeially the law firms' blogs I read on occasion. | Nov 23 00:32 |
| Techrights-sec | Speaking of blogs, there seem to be slightly more active blogs than last year. | Nov 23 00:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | my ONLY shift for this week is almost over now (1am) | Nov 23 00:33 |
| Techrights-sec | Congratulations. | Nov 23 00:37 |
| Techrights-sec | One topic that falls victim to time is incidents like Munich. As time passes, | Nov 23 00:37 |
| Techrights-sec | people forget and then they try to fill in the gaps with speculation. Sadly, | Nov 23 00:37 |
| Techrights-sec | that speculation is made up inaccurately by projecting the individual's own | Nov 23 00:37 |
| Techrights-sec | reasonably good values and ethics onto a group which is alien to both. | Nov 23 00:37 |
| Techrights-sec | So the underhanded tricks with the mayor and the insiders and the move of | Nov 23 00:37 |
| Techrights-sec | the headquarters are forgotten and smoothed over by wishful, but wrong, thinking | Nov 23 00:37 |
| Techrights-sec | The counter to that is to keep bringing up the old topics, but it has to be | Nov 23 00:38 |
| Techrights-sec | done in new contexts otherwise the microsofters gain a little by asserting | Nov 23 00:38 |
| Techrights-sec | that the data is "old" and therefore no longer applies, even if the current | Nov 23 00:38 |
| Techrights-sec | situation is much worse than befor. | Nov 23 00:38 |
| Techrights-sec | Back to why "cybersecurity" can't be taught at universities, most now lack a | Nov 23 00:47 |
| Techrights-sec | functional IT department. I have bemoaned the fact that most institutions now | Nov 23 00:47 |
| Techrights-sec | harbor microsoft resellers in place of what was once their IT deparment. But | Nov 23 00:47 |
| Techrights-sec | the vehicle for that was to outsource the skills by outsourcing the activities | Nov 23 00:47 |
| Techrights-sec | and services. When they had in-house teams they attracted, developed, and | Nov 23 00:47 |
| Techrights-sec | retained talent. Once they had outsourced enough people left. When enough | Nov 23 00:47 |
| Techrights-sec | skilled people leave, there comes a point where a threshold is crossed | Nov 23 00:47 |
| Techrights-sec | and those remaining skilled people don't have enough peers to enjoy or beneft | Nov 23 00:47 |
| Techrights-sec | from the work. So they, too, leave. It's a death spiral of sorts. It | Nov 23 00:47 |
| Techrights-sec | begins with outsourcing. So companies like Cisco provide outrageously expensive | Nov 23 00:47 |
| Techrights-sec | and poor quality VPns and such and instead of using WireGuard or OpenVPN, the | Nov 23 00:47 |
| Techrights-sec | talent leaves and are replaced by flunkies who can only play with junk. | Nov 23 00:47 |
| Techrights-sec | However, the choice of VPNs is itself a false dichotomy. It means that | Nov 23 00:47 |
| Techrights-sec | cruchy on the outside but soft on the inside style of network and service | Nov 23 00:47 |
| Techrights-sec | architecure has been adopted replacing the old 1980s zero-trust model. In | Nov 23 00:47 |
| Techrights-sec | the latter, the network (even the LAN) must be consider compromised to begin | Nov 23 00:47 |
| Techrights-sec | with and the services designed sufficiently robustly to cope with that. | Nov 23 00:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | happened where I worked | Nov 23 00:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I did the research, not "IT" | Nov 23 00:48 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes, the cost of that was you doing "IT"' job for them. They probably | Nov 23 00:49 |
| Techrights-sec | got partial credit for the positive result even if they fought it actively | Nov 23 00:49 |
| Techrights-sec | and passively to a certain extent. | Nov 23 00:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | tou end up isnatlling everything for yourself and received no suppoort, whuich I suppose yoy paid for | Nov 23 00:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | *you | Nov 23 00:50 |
| Techrights-sec | The world needs a non-M$ Kerberos VI to replace the damaged Kerberos V. | Nov 23 00:52 |
| Techrights-sec | And several other similar technologies, such as dedicated native clients. | Nov 23 00:52 |
| Techrights-sec | RUnning everything through javascript in a web brower *cough*electron*cough* | Nov 23 00:52 |
| Techrights-sec | is inefficient and unsafe. | Nov 23 00:52 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes, installing everything yourself and getting no support. Yet, they somehow | Nov 23 00:52 |
| Techrights-sec | get credit for it working. COnsiduer your company lucky that they don't also | Nov 23 00:52 |
| Techrights-sec | double-bill like some "IT" "service" companies do around here. | Nov 23 00:52 |
| Techrights-sec | One place the microsoft resellers threatened to withdraw their "support" | Nov 23 01:01 |
| Techrights-sec | I and another faculty member maneuvered them into doing that in such a way | Nov 23 01:01 |
| Techrights-sec | as they ended up being out of the way. They did not know how to counter that | Nov 23 01:01 |
| Techrights-sec | level of independence as they were used to obsequiousness, so it took them | Nov 23 01:01 |
| Techrights-sec | about 18 months to counter. Though the did occasionally find small, petty | Nov 23 01:01 |
| Techrights-sec | ways to intentionally interfere especially at busy times. | Nov 23 01:01 |
| Techrights-sec | What hurts the nation and the economy the worse is that the microsofter poseurs | Nov 23 01:01 |
| Techrights-sec | are considered "IT" in any way shape or form. M$ is not a technology, it | Nov 23 01:01 |
| Techrights-sec | is a form of political control, or even a cult, masqurading as a product line. | Nov 23 01:01 |
| Techrights-sec | Anyway, I'm rambling too much today. | Nov 23 01:01 |
| psydruid | I had implemented zero trust at a friend's office with separate LANs for servers, desktops and home environment and firewalls running and enabled on each system to protect them from one another | Nov 23 01:56 |
| psydruid | When I left for abroad they moved back to Windows but had constant trouble according to someone else I knew and talked to | Nov 23 01:57 |
| psydruid | In the end the business was closed down | Nov 23 01:57 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Nov 23 01:58 |
| psydruid | those people who peddle Microsoft "solutions" don't realise how much damage they are doing by replacing tech that works with something that obviously doesn't work | Nov 23 01:59 |
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| Techrights-sec | Windows kills also businesses. The M$ resellers prioritize Windows over the | Nov 23 08:07 |
| Techrights-sec | survival of the very institution they are ostensibly working in. They | Nov 23 08:07 |
| Techrights-sec | may be on the payroll of the institution they kill but nonetheless have | Nov 23 08:07 |
| Techrights-sec | allegiance only to M$. | Nov 23 08:07 |
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| schestowitz-TR | If you wrote something before this session was rest, I did not see it as I was asleep | Nov 23 20:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | In interesting development, freenode 'reopened'... anony logics and our old channels are still registered there | Nov 23 20:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | so there are now two stale networks with a channell called techrights in them | Nov 23 20:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | aside from the main one | Nov 23 20:44 |
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