IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: Monday, May 24, 2021

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<h5><a href="https://libreboot.org/news/libreboot20210522.html">Libreboot 20210522 released!</a></h5>

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://libreboot.org/news/libreboot20210522.html">Libreboot )

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<p>Libreboot is free (as in freedom) boot firmware, which initializes the hardware (e.g. memory controller, CPU, peripherals) in your computer so that software can run. Libreboot then starts a bootloader to load your operating system. It replaces the proprietary BIOS/UEFI firmware typically found on a computer. Libreboot is compatible with specifical computer models that use the Intel/AMD x86 architecture.

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Libreboot works well with GNU+Linux and BSD operating systems.</p></blockquote></li>

https://nitter.cc/JulianKlode/status/1396735130371297283#m

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May 24 09:56

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.cc | Julian Andres Klode (@JulianKlode): "'techrights' is just a hate amplification device." | nitter

May 24 09:56

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May 24 15:00

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$ w gemini | sed -n '1,2p;$p'

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???

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why is this login vi TR?

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^via

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it is in tmux so we can be observe it, but fitting the screen is an issue. It includes uptime state. further down some numbers.

May 24 16:35

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tmux is ok but the connection seems routed through TR so that the incoming

May 24 16:36

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connnection is from 23.161.112.116 instead of 192.168.x.y

May 24 16:36

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anyway, today was our last day at the gym. 1) too crowded, not pleasant in terms of noise etc. 2) not feeling safe 3) takes too much time to be worth it given (1) and (2). In better news, kaniini is becoming freenode staff, I heard, and will help to keep it going.

May 24 16:37

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good on kaniini, that is excellent news

May 24 16:38

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too bad about the gym

May 24 16:38

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maybe out articles and videos helped make a diff

May 24 16:38

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I think so, but they are often requiring signfificant investment of time

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to dig into. That's mostly good, but often makes it hard to reach

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a public that is less familiar with the topics written about.

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Occasional summaries would be great, but that would be something that someone

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else could do: take the existing written articles and create an executive

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summary from them

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the videos probably help, too. A lot of people seem to be very into videos

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these days. I'm not sure about the culture though.

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Around town and out on the roads I always see younger people traveling

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(dangerously) wearing headphones while biking and jogging and runnning and

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walking. I presume a lot of them are listening to other than music.

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kaniini has just confirmed helping with freenode

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I have a video uploaded while on the gym, will release shortly

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b/w being limitless helps us a lot, disk space too

May 24 16:54

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I will do a summary about EPO/BoA later this week

May 24 16:54

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As, always, EPO material is very important. But as mentioned just now,

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occasional intros, written by someone else, would really help bring

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more people on board with awareness of the situation in Europe.

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that does take a lot of work because you need to consider what people do and do not know

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Excellent. It is important, because many new groups find out about TR

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Maybe once a quarter or even just two or three times a year ought to

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be more than adequate. If you know where the new people are joining

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from, the message and information could be tuned.

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here is the snag:

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sites are monotonous

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you don't get to write x for audience x

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and y for y

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rss feeds don't work like that

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so you need to find balance and most who read are staff of EPO or people who look up patent stuff in searches

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btw, bt remotely updates the hub again and this time it seems to have resolved the bug they introduced a month ago

May 24 17:10

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The hub ought to be replaces with OpeBSD running PF if possible, and

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with PFSense if not.

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OpenWRT would be a functional choice but less desirable.

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atm i lack time and desire to explore that tbh

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I have a thought or proposal that I don't mean to come across as rude in text-only

May 24 17:14

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given what you read about EPO

May 24 17:14

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as a non-expert (I am not one either, but spent a lot of time reading docs)

May 24 17:15

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would you be willing to do summaries of the issues

May 24 17:15

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maybe from swpats angle?

May 24 17:15

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ack

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I have a very poor grasp of the personalities involved, it's too much

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like a sports league where one has to keep track of players and player

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trades.

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Is anyone in IRC interested?

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I /could/ do it, but it would take me days of full time study to

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get comfortable with all the details.

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What are the 4 or 5 most important take-aways from the ongoing EPO / SW patent

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saga, at the moment?

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1. What are sw patents and why are they a threat?

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2. What is the role that the EPO has in granting patents in Europe?

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3. How is the EPO falling short?

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I can take a crack at writing answers, but what should be 4 and 5?

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[sorry, was just typing a whole article! hence delay] I do not think any analytical assessment is needed

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it can be like an outline of recent things, connected based on theme

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and words added to the effect of why it affects programming too

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May 24 17:32

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that sounds better then

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just an annotated timeline or similar

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yes, like wiki on steroids

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we can even post the summary in the wiki, like we did gnome foundation

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Individual nations have their own patent offices still. What's the

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ostensible purpose of the EPO and its claims to advantage?

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From what I understand a patent in one country is valid automatically

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in the other member states, so why an EPO? Especially if it does not

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follow the law and treaties?

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do you have 10 minutes to plan in Mumble?

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The current (20-part?) series is on "The EPOs War on Justice and Assault on the Law"

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I will log in .... in a bit

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thanks

May 24 17:58

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thanks for the chat

May 24 18:15

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I will be super-busy this week if I try to keep abreast of all the lies. At stake here is only GDPR and the concept of oursourcing courts to GAFAM+

May 24 18:17

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EPO Does NOT want ANY media attention on this case... so it'll manufacture disractions

May 24 18:18

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The EPO appeals courts?

May 24 18:19

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Yes, and probably a DDoS or two as well

May 24 18:19

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oppositions, appeals, referrals. not the same. remember you can't appeal those, epo is a vacuum.

May 24 18:19

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Is there a 50-cent version of the workflow for applying for a patent via

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the EPO? It is essential that the process be known to the readers.

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readers need not know

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but it's expensive, renewal, legal help and all