Techrights logo

IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: Monday, May 24, 2021

(ℹ) Join us now at the IRC channel | ䷉ Find the plain text version at this address.

*saint_dogbert (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #boycottnovellMay 24 01:23
*phobos has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)May 24 01:26
*rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)May 24 01:45
*liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)May 24 01:46
*rianne ( has joined #boycottnovellMay 24 01:52
*liberty_box ( has joined #boycottnovellMay 24 01:53
*rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)May 24 03:52
*liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)May 24 03:52
*rianne ( has joined #boycottnovellMay 24 03:53
*liberty_box ( has joined #boycottnovellMay 24 03:54
*saint_dogbert has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)May 24 05:49
Techrights-sec2 24 07:33
-TechrightsBN/ | Wojtek Gałązka (@GaWojtek): "Stallman should go away" | nitterMay 24 07:33
Techrights-sec2 24 07:33
-TechrightsBN/ | TechLead (@techleadhd): "This is crazy. Facebook tracks your location from the camera photo's metadata, even if you ask it not to track your location. There's no way to turn this off, except to not share photos on Facebook (or Instagram)." | nitterMay 24 07:34
schestowitzclownflare strikes againMay 24 08:16
schestowitz"It seems possible that there are communications issues between Cloudflare and the AWS back end. Does the error page ("in which those green and red rounds, ticks and Xs are present") specify or visually show what is happening between the site's origin and Cloudflare? This can help diagnose or determine if the issue is limited to the network connectivity or something similar. About 95% of site traffic is dealt with Cloudflare rather May 24 08:16
schestowitzthan any contact with the site's actual database or CMS."May 24 08:16
schestowitz <li>May 24 09:51
schestowitz                  <h5><a href="">Libreboot 20210522 released!</a></h5>May 24 09:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @">Libreboot )May 24 09:51
schestowitz                  <blockquote>May 24 09:51
schestowitz                    <p>Libreboot is free (as in freedom) boot firmware, which initializes the hardware (e.g. memory controller, CPU, peripherals) in your computer so that software can run. Libreboot then starts a bootloader to load your operating system. It replaces the proprietary BIOS/UEFI firmware typically found on a computer. Libreboot is compatible with specifical computer models that use the Intel/AMD x86 architecture. May 24 09:51
schestowitzLibreboot works well with GNU+Linux and BSD operating systems.</p></blockquote></li>May 24 09:51
Techrights-sec2 24 09:56
-TechrightsBN/ | Julian Andres Klode (@JulianKlode): "'techrights' is just a hate amplification device." | nitterMay 24 09:56
*phobos (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #boycottnovellMay 24 13:13
*phobos has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)May 24 15:00
Techrights-sec2$ w gemini | sed -n '1,2p;$p'May 24 16:34
Techrights-sec2???May 24 16:34
Techrights-sec2why is this login vi TR?May 24 16:34
Techrights-sec2^viaMay 24 16:34
schestowitzit is in tmux so we can be observe it, but fitting the screen is an issue. It includes uptime state. further down some numbers.May 24 16:35
Techrights-sec2tmux is ok but the connection seems routed through TR so that the incomingMay 24 16:36
Techrights-sec2connnection is from instead of 192.168.x.yMay 24 16:36
schestowitzanyway, today was our last day at the gym. 1) too crowded, not pleasant in terms of noise etc. 2) not feeling safe 3) takes too much time to be worth it given (1) and (2). In better news, kaniini is becoming freenode staff, I heard, and will help to keep it going.May 24 16:37
Techrights-sec2good on kaniini, that is excellent newsMay 24 16:38
Techrights-sec2too bad about the gymMay 24 16:38
schestowitzmaybe out articles and videos helped make a diffMay 24 16:38
Techrights-sec2I think so, but they are often requiring signfificant investment of timeMay 24 16:53
Techrights-sec2to dig into.  That's mostly good, but often makes it hard to reachMay 24 16:53
Techrights-sec2a public that is less familiar with the topics written about.May 24 16:53
Techrights-sec2Occasional summaries would be great, but that would be something that someoneMay 24 16:53
Techrights-sec2else could do: take the existing written articles and create an executiveMay 24 16:53
Techrights-sec2summary from themMay 24 16:53
Techrights-sec2the videos probably help, too.  A lot of people seem to be very into videosMay 24 16:53
Techrights-sec2these days.  I'm not sure about the culture though.May 24 16:53
Techrights-sec2Around town and out on the roads I always see younger people traveling May 24 16:53
Techrights-sec2(dangerously) wearing headphones while biking and jogging and runnning andMay 24 16:53
Techrights-sec2walking.  I presume a lot of them are listening to other than music.May 24 16:53
schestowitzkaniini has just confirmed helping with freenodeMay 24 16:53
schestowitzI have a video uploaded while on the gym, will release shortlyMay 24 16:53
schestowitzb/w being limitless helps us a lot, disk space tooMay 24 16:54
schestowitzI will do a summary about EPO/BoA later this weekMay 24 16:54
Techrights-sec2As, always, EPO material is very important.  But as mentioned just now,May 24 17:02
Techrights-sec2occasional intros, written by someone else, would really help bringMay 24 17:02
Techrights-sec2more people on board with awareness of the situation in Europe.May 24 17:02
schestowitzthat does take a lot of work because you need to consider what people do and do not knowMay 24 17:02
Techrights-sec2Excellent.  It is important, because many new groups find out about TRMay 24 17:08
Techrights-sec2Maybe once a quarter or even just two or three times a year ought toMay 24 17:08
Techrights-sec2be more than adequate.  If you know where the new people are joining May 24 17:08
Techrights-sec2from, the message and information could be tuned.May 24 17:08
schestowitzhere is the snag:May 24 17:09
schestowitzsites are monotonousMay 24 17:09
schestowitzyou don't get to write x for audience xMay 24 17:09
schestowitzand y for yMay 24 17:09
schestowitzrss feeds don't work like thatMay 24 17:09
schestowitzso you need to find balance and most who read are staff of EPO or people who look up patent stuff in searchesMay 24 17:09
schestowitzbtw, bt remotely updates the hub again and this time it seems to have resolved the bug they introduced a month agoMay 24 17:10
Techrights-sec2The hub ought to be replaces with OpeBSD running PF if possible, and May 24 17:12
Techrights-sec2with PFSense if not.May 24 17:12
Techrights-sec2OpenWRT would be a functional choice but less desirable.May 24 17:12
schestowitzatm i lack time and desire to explore that tbhMay 24 17:12
schestowitzI have a thought or proposal that I don't mean to come across as rude in text-onlyMay 24 17:14
schestowitzgiven what you read about EPOMay 24 17:14
schestowitzas a non-expert (I am not one either, but spent a lot of time reading docs)May 24 17:15
schestowitzwould you be willing to do summaries of the issuesMay 24 17:15
schestowitzmaybe from swpats angle?May 24 17:15
Techrights-sec2ackMay 24 17:30
Techrights-sec2I have a very poor grasp of the personalities involved, it's too muchMay 24 17:30
Techrights-sec2like a sports league where one has to keep track of players and playerMay 24 17:30
Techrights-sec2trades.May 24 17:30
Techrights-sec2Is anyone in IRC interested?    May 24 17:30
Techrights-sec2I /could/ do it, but it would take me days of full time study to May 24 17:30
Techrights-sec2get comfortable with all the details.May 24 17:30
Techrights-sec2What are the 4 or 5 most important take-aways from the ongoing EPO / SW patentMay 24 17:30
Techrights-sec2saga, at the moment?May 24 17:30
Techrights-sec21. What are sw patents and why are they a threat?May 24 17:30
Techrights-sec22. What is the role that the EPO has in granting patents in Europe?May 24 17:30
Techrights-sec23. How is the EPO falling short?May 24 17:31
Techrights-sec24. May 24 17:31
Techrights-sec25.May 24 17:31
Techrights-sec2I can take a crack at writing answers, but what should be 4 and 5?May 24 17:31
schestowitz[sorry, was just typing a whole article! hence delay] I do not think  any analytical assessment is neededMay 24 17:31
schestowitzit can be like an outline of recent things, connected based on themeMay 24 17:31
schestowitzand words added to the effect of why it affects programming tooMay 24 17:31
*phobos (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #boycottnovellMay 24 17:32
Techrights-sec2that sounds better thenMay 24 17:37
Techrights-sec2just an annotated timeline or similarMay 24 17:37
schestowitzyes, like wiki on steroidsMay 24 17:37
schestowitzwe can even post the summary in the wiki, like we did gnome foundationMay 24 17:37
Techrights-sec2Individual nations have their own patent offices still.  What's the  May 24 17:57
Techrights-sec2ostensible purpose of the EPO and its claims to advantage?  May 24 17:57
Techrights-sec2From what I understand a patent in one country is valid automaticallyMay 24 17:57
Techrights-sec2in the other member states, so why an EPO?  Especially if it does notMay 24 17:57
Techrights-sec2follow the law and treaties?May 24 17:57
Techrights-sec2do you have 10 minutes to plan in Mumble?May 24 17:57
Techrights-sec2The current (20-part?) series is on "The EPOs War on Justice and Assault on the Law"May 24 17:57
schestowitzI will log in .... in a bitMay 24 17:57
Techrights-sec2thanksMay 24 17:58
schestowitzthanks for the chatMay 24 18:15
schestowitzI will be super-busy this week if I try to keep abreast of all the lies. At stake here is only GDPR and the concept of oursourcing courts to GAFAM+May 24 18:17
schestowitzEPO Does NOT want ANY media attention on this case... so it'll manufacture disractionsMay 24 18:18
Techrights-sec2The EPO appeals courts?May 24 18:19
Techrights-sec2Yes, and probably a DDoS or two as wellMay 24 18:19
schestowitzoppositions, appeals, referrals. not the same. remember you can't appeal those, epo is a vacuum.May 24 18:19
Techrights-sec2Is there a 50-cent version of the workflow for applying for a patent viaMay 24 18:22
Techrights-sec2the EPO?  It is essential that the process be known to the readers.May 24 18:22
schestowitzreaders need not knowMay 24 18:22
schestowitzbut it's expensive, renewal, legal help and allMay 24 18:22
Techrights-sec2 24 19:13
-TechrightsBN/ | Tinka (@Execuwear): "@RandPaul PLEASE check out a really extensive site relating to BG and the cover-ups regarding ch.ld and philia" | nitterMay 24 19:13
Techrights-sec2 24 20:13
-TechrightsBN/ | Lawrence Turner (@Athbheochan): "Bill and Melinda Gates: The Couple That Made Eugenics Hip | Techrights" | nitterMay 24 20:13
*phobos has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)May 24 20:45

Generated by 2.6 | ䷉ find the plain text version at this address.