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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rodgersnotes/status/1297586880201064449 | Aug 24 01:02 |
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| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@rodgersnotes: Does anyone know the secret solution? https://t.co/dszGS1U67I If so, please pass it along Thanks @LibOCon… https://t.co/Z9DwXRuYJk | Aug 24 01:02 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@rodgersnotes: Today, @LibreOffice is going rogue once again. I was just trying to do some simple cut and paste, and Surprise!… https://t.co/F7yEHUeKFJ | Aug 24 01:02 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@rodgersnotes: Does anyone know the secret solution? https://t.co/dszGS1U67I If so, please pass it along Thanks @LibOCon… https://t.co/Z9DwXRuYJk | Aug 24 01:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Peterwyck29/status/1297551161222987777 | Aug 24 01:02 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Peterwyck29: @schestowitz Patent owners go to court to “defend” their rights. They r forced to do this because those companies u… https://t.co/I5henC48jc | Aug 24 01:02 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Peterwyck29: @schestowitz Patent owners go to court to “defend” their rights. They r forced to do this because those companies u… https://t.co/I5henC48jc | Aug 24 01:02 | |
| schestowitz | "Patent owners go to court to “defend” their rights. They r forced to do this because those companies using their patents refuse to take a license. That is the real world not the ignorant fable u spout off about. #stayinurlane" | Aug 24 01:02 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rahulitblog/status/1297521339822157824 | Aug 24 01:03 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@rahulitblog: @schestowitz Hello | Aug 24 01:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/skoblikoff/status/1297486939071840257 | Aug 24 01:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@skoblikoff: If WE do not show them in LOVE that we have ALL been deceived in the same way by the same people they will never kn… https://t.co/vu8j59BkyK | Aug 24 01:04 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@skoblikoff: If WE do not show them in LOVE that we have ALL been deceived in the same way by the same people they will never kn… https://t.co/vu8j59BkyK | Aug 24 01:04 | |
| schestowitz | "If WE do not show them in LOVE that we have ALL been deceived in the same way by the same people they will never know & WE will have FAILED: Our parents, our children, our grandchildren, all our cultures, and ourselves. This is the importance of TRUTH. #SaveTheChildren" | Aug 24 01:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/skoblikoff/status/1297484262267064320 | Aug 24 01:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@skoblikoff: Until the world comes to grip the TRUTH that ALL the wars were fought to stop ANY nation/state that deemed to have… https://t.co/HpQqJlSSk7 | Aug 24 01:04 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@skoblikoff: Until the world comes to grip the TRUTH that ALL the wars were fought to stop ANY nation/state that deemed to have… https://t.co/HpQqJlSSk7 | Aug 24 01:04 | |
| schestowitz | "Until the world comes to grip the TRUTH that ALL the wars were fought to stop ANY nation/state that deemed to have "Gold-backed currency" They'll be Oblivious as to how we ALL have been used by The Central Banksters to remain their "Debt Slaves". We are everything they FEAR MOST." | Aug 24 01:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/skoblikoff/status/1297480351846211590 | Aug 24 01:05 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@skoblikoff: Cause & Effect in the Age of TRUTH: Trump's a smart 'Independent' who used the GOP because it was only marginally l… https://t.co/8af5L111AE | Aug 24 01:05 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@skoblikoff: Cause & Effect in the Age of TRUTH: Trump's a smart 'Independent' who used the GOP because it was only marginally l… https://t.co/8af5L111AE | Aug 24 01:05 | |
| schestowitz | "Cause & Effect in the Age of TRUTH: Trump's a smart 'Independent' who used the GOP because it was only marginally less corrupt than the leftist Democrats. The GOP will only survive because of Trump's honesty while the Dems will perish on the weight of their own MASSIVE corruption" | Aug 24 01:05 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/skoblikoff/status/1297477394366894080 | Aug 24 01:06 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@skoblikoff: The plan to "Normalize/Excuse" Bush presidency FAILS in the light of historical FACT. Bush is no more a constitutio… https://t.co/fehL8Uqzix | Aug 24 01:06 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@skoblikoff: The plan to "Normalize/Excuse" Bush presidency FAILS in the light of historical FACT. Bush is no more a constitutio… https://t.co/fehL8Uqzix | Aug 24 01:06 | |
| schestowitz | "The plan to "Normalize/Excuse" Bush presidency FAILS in the light of historical FACT. Bush is no more a constitutionally "Legal" president than Traitor44. From the "Hung Chads narrative" to his 9/11 culpability, "patriot act" & Gold & Poppy Bankster Wars all are a neocon PsyOp." | Aug 24 01:06 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Hobogasz/status/1297474576004395009 | Aug 24 01:06 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Hobogasz: I keep saying: The people deserve the leaders they elect! https://t.co/RSUFoDiUvN | Aug 24 01:06 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #JacobinMag #iraq #gop #trump ☞ We Shouldn’t Have to Remind People George W. Bush Was a Terrible President https://t.co/Uh1NKSTEBK | Aug 24 01:06 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PrincessBibiRF_/status/1297434572104368128 | Aug 24 01:06 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PrincessBibiRF_: This is very racist and suggestive @CNN how dare you politicized this crap on @Twitter @jack as @CNN suggests black… https://t.co/KJTe4v39ar | Aug 24 01:06 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PrincessBibiRF_: This is very racist and suggestive @CNN how dare you politicized this crap on @Twitter @jack as @CNN suggests black… https://t.co/KJTe4v39ar | Aug 24 01:06 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 24 01:06 |
| schestowitz | This is very racist and suggestive @CNN | Aug 24 01:06 |
| schestowitz | how dare you politicized this crap on @Twitter | Aug 24 01:06 |
| schestowitz | @jack | Aug 24 01:06 |
| schestowitz | as @CNN | Aug 24 01:06 |
| schestowitz | suggests black babies will not survive childbirth if a White Doctor is looking after them @FareedZakaria | Aug 24 01:07 |
| schestowitz | @schestowitz | Aug 24 01:07 |
| schestowitz | @richardursomd | Aug 24 01:07 |
| schestowitz | @DrThomasPaul | Aug 24 01:07 |
| schestowitz | @KennedyForUtah | Aug 24 01:07 |
| schestowitz | @drsanjaygupta | Aug 24 01:07 |
| schestowitz | ? | Aug 24 01:07 |
| schestowitz | "\ | Aug 24 01:07 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9yNHKNyWwtQl7q2jPk | Aug 24 01:10 |
| schestowitz | "#QAnon is conspiring against us" | Aug 24 01:10 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Aug 24 01:10 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9yNiyZkRILsJz2qAoS | Aug 24 01:11 |
| schestowitz | "Or maybe people don't mail letters and docs much? And UPS is _way_ ahead wrt package delivery? With income down, expenses have to follow." | Aug 24 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Aug 24 01:11 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9yNpmPBJSG1hPrYQ9A | Aug 24 01:11 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 24 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Aug 24 01:11 | |
| schestowitz | What an awesome feature. I've always missed this since the time of #Amiga OS. | Aug 24 01:11 |
| schestowitz | Well done, #KDE! | Aug 24 01:11 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 24 01:11 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9yNwkODqkV2tXdj80u | Aug 24 01:12 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz @redstarfish Linux Foundation lawyers are now literally recommending omitting copyright holders' names and copyright dates from copyright notices in source code. Why would a lawyer recommend something so dumb? This is an obvious attempt to try to hinder GPL enforcement: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/blog/2020/01/copyright-notices-in-open-source-software-projects/"\\ | Aug 24 01:12 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Aug 24 01:12 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.linuxfoundation.org/blog/2020/01/copyright-notices-in-open-source-software-projects/"\\ ) | Aug 24 01:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9yO9OJeGNCE4OAt0TI | Aug 24 01:12 |
| schestowitz | "bxhy" | Aug 24 01:12 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Aug 24 01:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9yOYBVzVfaNXl5oiNU | Aug 24 01:13 |
| schestowitz | "Interesting"\ | Aug 24 01:13 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Aug 24 01:13 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9yPLDogc1n4O4dhldw | Aug 24 01:13 |
| schestowitz | "if it hits dc, we are good ..." | Aug 24 01:13 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://pleroma.site/notice/9yPLDogc1n4O4dhldw ) | Aug 24 01:13 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9yQDyhil8b6PbeW2r2 | Aug 24 01:13 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 24 01:13 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Aug 24 01:13 | |
| schestowitz | wait, I do this already. | Aug 24 01:13 |
| schestowitz | Didn't think we needed permission. | Aug 24 01:13 |
| schestowitz | "\https://pleroma.site/notice/9yQIunBdNF07AcyZ1s | Aug 24 01:13 |
| schestowitz | "all this time I thought it was just a log viewer 😅" | Aug 24 01:13 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Aug 24 01:13 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9yQYH39CDBaMM3uH2G | Aug 24 01:14 |
| schestowitz | " https://linuxgamecast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/featured-9.jpg" | Aug 24 01:14 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Aug 24 01:14 | |
| schestowitz | Seems apt | Aug 24 01:14 |
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| schestowitz | >> https://blog.arduino.cc/feed/ | Aug 24 07:14 |
| schestowitz | > Added | Aug 24 07:14 |
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| schestowitz | >> https://www.pclinuxos.com/?feed=rss2 | Aug 24 07:14 |
| schestowitz | > Added | Aug 24 07:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 24 07:14 |
| schestowitz | >> https://www.elivecd.org/feed/ | Aug 24 07:14 |
| schestowitz | > Added, but the content is not structured well enough to extract just a | Aug 24 07:14 |
| schestowitz | > paragraph or two. Might not produce good results ever. | Aug 24 07:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 24 07:14 |
| schestowitz | >> http://www.zenwalk.org/feeds/posts/default?alt=rss | Aug 24 07:14 |
| schestowitz | > Added, but the content is not structured well enough to extract just a | Aug 24 07:14 |
| schestowitz | > paragraph or two. | Aug 24 07:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 24 07:14 |
| schestowitz | >> https://godotengine.org/rss.xml | Aug 24 07:14 |
| schestowitz | > Added | Aug 24 07:14 |
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| schestowitz | >> https://www.qt.io/blog/rss.xml | Aug 24 07:14 |
| schestowitz | > Added | Aug 24 07:15 |
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| schestowitz | > They'll all show up tomorrow. The two annotated above might be dodgy | Aug 24 07:15 |
| schestowitz | > and might not be suitable for automated summaries. | Aug 24 07:15 |
| schestowitz | For not I am keeping these also in quirerss, so there will at least be a fallback. | Aug 24 07:15 |
| schestowitz | > About the e-mails showing free software being undermined, I am not the | Aug 24 07:16 |
| schestowitz | > least surprised but disappointed. I am outside all of that but still | Aug 24 07:16 |
| schestowitz | > got hints of it. It is good to have that out in the open but more sites | Aug 24 07:16 |
| schestowitz | > need to cover it since many people are in full denial. | Aug 24 07:16 |
| schestowitz | If no other sites cover it, people will have no choice but to follow techrights. | Aug 24 07:16 |
| schestowitz | It was always like that with EPO scandal, except when IP Kat covered it also... | Aug 24 07:16 |
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| schestowitz | > Yes, LibrePay was another to look at but I know nothing about it. | Aug 24 07:18 |
| schestowitz | > Pateron is widely used already though. | Aug 24 07:18 |
| schestowitz | Liam says we'd need to offer supporters something extra. What might that be? | Aug 24 07:18 |
| schestowitz | Rianne donated 60 pounds to an elephants (orphaned) fund today, as it's her birthday and that's what she wanted to do | Aug 24 07:19 |
| schestowitz | They sell that as "buy milk" for the baby elephant of your choice. | Aug 24 07:19 |
| schestowitz | > Ok. They are mostly good, only elivecd and zenwalk are problematic. | Aug 24 07:20 |
| schestowitz | > Let me know if they produce too much gibberish and need to be removed | Aug 24 07:20 |
| schestowitz | > from the automatic links. | Aug 24 07:20 |
| schestowitz | Those are not very active feeds. So it may take some time to notice. | Aug 24 07:20 |
| schestowitz | >> If no other sites cover it, people will have no choice but to follow | Aug 24 07:21 |
| schestowitz | >> techrights. | Aug 24 07:21 |
| schestowitz | > Yes, but to return to a longstanding tasks, HTTPS needs to be enabled to | Aug 24 07:21 |
| schestowitz | > fit with the trends of the times. That would be important in getting | Aug 24 07:21 |
| schestowitz | > return visits. | Aug 24 07:21 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 24 07:21 |
| schestowitz | > I am quoting myself quoting from a memory of something similar someone else has said. So it goes...] | Aug 24 07:22 |
| schestowitz | Re: DEB NICHOLSON IS AT OSI?! | Aug 24 07:23 |
| schestowitz | > This is significant. Is this observation pushed forward anywhere? | Aug 24 07:23 |
| schestowitz | One person warned me about it (since last year) | Aug 24 07:23 |
| schestowitz | > I agree about ESR. I have never trusted the man. Even his writing betrays a warped world-view, even as he tries very hard to conceal that under "logic" and "science". He is driven by opinion and self-interest. I think he may even enjoy damaging other people. | Aug 24 07:23 |
| schestowitz | > This is a very powerful observation. We should make as much of this as we can. I'm sorry I do not know enough to say more... | Aug 24 07:24 |
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| schestowitz | > Where there is smoke there is fire - and here we see a glimpse of the flame. | Aug 24 07:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 24 07:25 |
| schestowitz | > Kind of funny in hindsight: Linux is going to disappear because of Service Pack 1 for Windows 2000??? How that makes me smile today! | Aug 24 07:25 |
| schestowitz | Service Pack... for Gartner... check the post. There's a cheque. | Aug 24 07:25 |
| schestowitz | hi hook54321 | Aug 24 07:25 |
| schestowitz | > Didn't know until Roy published it. The petition part I knew about. | Aug 24 07:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 24 07:26 |
| schestowitz | > It's not a coup! | Aug 24 07:26 |
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| schestowitz | [10:45] <Guest61833> Hi schestowitz, I’m Jan C. Borchardt – could you please remove my plain-text email from this post? http://techrights.org/2020/08/23/back-stabbing-richard-stallman/ | Aug 24 11:12 |
| schestowitz | [10:45] <Guest61833> I just mean the email address, hey at jancborchardt dot net – thanks | Aug 24 11:12 |
| schestowitz | [10:49] <Guest61833> (Also just sent you an email from that address to s at schestowitz dot com – please let me know when my email address is removed. Thanks.) | Aug 24 11:12 |
| schestowitz | [11:09] <Guest61833> Closing this IRC tab now, so no need to reply here. As said I sent an email. Thanks! | Aug 24 11:12 |
| schestowitz | [11:09] <-- Guest61833 (b03f1b3b@catv-176-63-27-59.catv.broadband.hu) has left this server (Remote host closed the connection). | Aug 24 11:12 |
| schestowitz | [11:10] <schestowitz> hi | Aug 24 11:12 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Leak: Richard Stallman (RMS) Was Betrayed by Matthias Kirschner’s FSFE, Which Closely Connected With People Who Attack Stallman | Techrights | Aug 24 11:12 | |
| schestowitz | This was confusing, the actual article is after a big 'quote' from Microsoft. The meat of the article is: | Aug 24 11:27 |
| schestowitz | Linux Foundation lawyers are now literally recommending omitting copyright holders’ names and copyright dates from copyright notices in source code. Why would a lawyer recommend something so dumb? This is an obvious attempt to try to hinder GPL enforcement | Aug 24 11:27 |
| schestowitz | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24258904 | Aug 24 11:27 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.ycombinator.com | The Linux Foundation in 2020 Helps Serial GPL Violators Get Away with It | Hacker News | Aug 24 11:27 | |
| schestowitz | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24258904 | Aug 24 11:48 |
| schestowitz | "This articled (dated few days ago) gave me more context: http://techrights.org/2020/08/21/last-article/" | Aug 24 11:48 |
| schestowitz | figos... | Aug 24 11:48 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | So It’s Come to This? | Techrights | Aug 24 11:48 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 24 11:49 |
| schestowitz | I'll try to make sense of this. | Aug 24 11:49 |
| schestowitz | Copyright gives the author different classes of rights. | Aug 24 11:49 |
| schestowitz | Most of these pertain to allowing others to use the copyrighted work, e.g. licensing. In a work for hire, the author (natural person) assigns this to whoever hired him (e.g. his employer) | Aug 24 11:49 |
| schestowitz | But in Europe (but, I believe, not in the USA), there is a non-transferable right on fathership (rough translation for vaderschapsrecht), the right to let the world know that you wrote the code. This right cannot be assigned to someone else. So if a European employee works for Microsoft, and writes a driver for Linux, the employee probably has the right to require his name to appear in the copyright message. | Aug 24 11:49 |
| schestowitz | It seems this article tells authors to not claim this right and remain anonymous. | Aug 24 11:49 |
| schestowitz | How this hinders GPL enforcement isn't clear to me. It might muddy the waters about who owns the code right now, hence removing standing - You can't generally sue someone for infringing a copyright that is not yours, the current owner has to sue. | Aug 24 11:49 |
| schestowitz | reply | Aug 24 11:49 |
| schestowitz | Aug 24 11:49 | |
| schestowitz | Aug 24 11:49 | |
| schestowitz | hyperman1 4 minutes ago [–] | Aug 24 11:49 |
| schestowitz | Update: The source is this: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/blog/2020/01/copyright-notic... | Aug 24 11:49 |
| schestowitz | And there is some interesting stuff under : Why not list every copyright holder? | Aug 24 11:49 |
| schestowitz | It seems very strange to me that a lawyer writes this: | Aug 24 11:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linuxfoundation.org | Copyright Notices in Open Source Software Projects - The Linux Foundation | Aug 24 11:50 | |
| schestowitz | The specific individual or legal entity that owns the copyright might not be known to the contributor; it could be you, your employer, or some other entity. | Aug 24 11:50 |
| schestowitz | He considers it acceptable to contribute even if the actual ownership is not clear. If you don't know who owns a contribution, how can the owner agree to contribute? | Aug 24 11:50 |
| schestowitz | reply | Aug 24 11:50 |
| schestowitz | Aug 24 11:50 | |
| schestowitz | Aug 24 11:50 | |
| schestowitz | Snild 19 minutes ago [–] | Aug 24 11:50 |
| schestowitz | I believe the quote/screenshot is from Linux Foundation. But yes, confusing. And no actual argument or discussion of the problem. | Aug 24 11:50 |
| schestowitz | I honestly don't see what the harm is supposed to be. What is the purported effect of a broader attribution in the copyright header? | Aug 24 11:50 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 24 11:50 |
| schestowitz | It did? It seems again to be a "who said what" without actually addressing where the meat of the claim comes from. (which tbh is the impression I've gotten from nearly every article on that domain...) | Aug 24 16:22 |
| schestowitz | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24258904 | Aug 24 16:22 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.ycombinator.com | The Linux Foundation in 2020 Helps Serial GPL Violators Get Away with It | Hacker News | Aug 24 16:22 | |
| schestowitz | > Hello, I also wrote you from the IRC widget on the Techrights site, | Aug 24 17:23 |
| schestowitz | > just in case you didn’t see that: | Aug 24 17:23 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 24 17:23 |
| schestowitz | > Please remove my plaintext email addressssssss from | Aug 24 17:24 |
| schestowitz | > the post at | Aug 24 17:24 |
| schestowitz | > http://techrights.org/2020/08/23/back-stabbing-richard-stallman/ – | Aug 24 17:24 |
| schestowitz | > I’d like it to not get crawled by spambots. | Aug 24 17:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 24 17:24 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Leak: Richard Stallman (RMS) Was Betrayed by Matthias Kirschner’s FSFE, Which Closely Connected With People Who Attack Stallman | Techrights | Aug 24 17:24 | |
| schestowitz | > Thanks a lot. | Aug 24 17:24 |
| schestowitz | Done | Aug 24 17:24 |
| schestowitz | >>> Yes, LibrePay was another to look at but I know nothing about it. | Aug 24 17:26 |
| schestowitz | >>> Pateron is widely used already though. | Aug 24 17:26 |
| schestowitz | >> Liam says we'd need to offer supporters something extra. What might that | Aug 24 17:26 |
| schestowitz | >> be? | Aug 24 17:26 |
| schestowitz | > Patreon offers tiers of support. The different people using it offer | Aug 24 17:26 |
| schestowitz | > perks at the different levels. I've looked up some samples: | Aug 24 17:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 24 17:26 |
| schestowitz | > access to 3D scans of key artifacts | Aug 24 17:26 |
| schestowitz | > patreon-only updates | Aug 24 17:26 |
| schestowitz | > read access insider blog | Aug 24 17:26 |
| schestowitz | > digital copies of drafts | Aug 24 17:27 |
| schestowitz | > name listed in credits | Aug 24 17:27 |
| schestowitz | > signed copies of published works | Aug 24 17:27 |
| schestowitz | > various degrees of gratitude | Aug 24 17:27 |
| schestowitz | > access to insider vlog | Aug 24 17:27 |
| schestowitz | > advanced previews of minor works | Aug 24 17:27 |
| schestowitz | > insider Discord (r) chat forum | Aug 24 17:27 |
| schestowitz | > 20% discount on merchandise | Aug 24 17:27 |
| schestowitz | > join once-a-month live video chat | Aug 24 17:27 |
| schestowitz | > ISC-licenced code | Aug 24 17:27 |
| schestowitz | > malloc | Aug 24 17:27 |
| schestowitz | What is malloc? | Aug 24 17:27 |
| schestowitz | I can pare some server RAM is people want it ;-) | Aug 24 17:27 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 24 17:34 |
| schestowitz | 23m | Aug 24 17:34 |
| schestowitz | Replying to | Aug 24 17:35 |
| schestowitz | @CJR | Aug 24 17:35 |
| schestowitz | 2007 article that also examined how Columbia University funder Gates has historically attempted to shape public discourse (as well as discourse on Columbia University's campus, perhaps?): | Aug 24 17:35 |
| schestowitz | Today's 'Objective' News, Brought to You by Microsoft Corporation | Aug 24 17:35 |
| schestowitz | A quick assessment of the possessions which drive out media's interests | Aug 24 17:35 |
| schestowitz | techrights.org | Aug 24 17:35 |
| schestowitz | bob a. feldman | Aug 24 17:35 |
| schestowitz | @bobafeldman1 | Aug 24 17:35 |
| schestowitz | · | Aug 24 17:35 |
| schestowitz | 31m | Aug 24 17:35 |
| schestowitz | Replying to | Aug 24 17:35 |
| schestowitz | @caseycorr | Aug 24 17:35 |
| schestowitz | 2007 article related to U.S. Power Elite's "Media-Gates Scandal": | Aug 24 17:35 |
| schestowitz | Today's 'Objective' News, Brought to You by Microsoft Corporation | Aug 24 17:35 |
| schestowitz | A quick assessment of the possessions which drive out media's interests | Aug 24 17:35 |
| schestowitz | techrights.org | Aug 24 17:35 |
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| schestowitz | 2007 article related to U.S. Power Elite's "Media-Gates Scandal", that might contain some additional historical info: | Aug 24 17:35 |
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| schestowitz | Today's 'Objective' News, Brought to You by Microsoft Corporation | Aug 24 17:35 |
| schestowitz | A quick assessment of the possessions which drive out media's interests | Aug 24 17:35 |
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| schestowitz | article from over 10 years ago on similar topic: | Aug 24 17:35 |
| schestowitz | Today's 'Objective' News, Brought to You by Microsoft Corporation | Aug 24 17:35 |
| schestowitz | A quick assessment of the possessions which drive out media's interests | Aug 24 17:35 |
| schestowitz | techrights.org | Aug 24 17:35 |
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| schestowitz | 2007 article on similar topic on Techrights website that might contain additional info related to U.S. Power Elite's "Media-Gates Scandal": | Aug 24 17:36 |
| schestowitz | Today's 'Objective' News, Brought to You by Microsoft Corporation | Aug 24 17:36 |
| schestowitz | A quick assessment of the possessions which drive out media's interests | Aug 24 17:36 |
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| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2007/11/30/journalism-bias-microsoft/ | Aug 24 17:36 |
| schestowitz | article from many years ago on similar topic: | Aug 24 17:36 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 24 17:36 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Today’s ‘Objective’ News, Brought to You by Microsoft Corporation | Techrights | Aug 24 17:36 | |
| schestowitz | ==== | Aug 24 17:36 |
| schestowitz | I'm getting some credit after 13 years, having covered #billgates #corruption of the news for longer than 13 years. The corruption and bribes ran so deep that nobody wanted to write about the topic. | Aug 24 17:36 |
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| schestowitz | 2007 article that also examined how Columbia University funder Gates has historically attempted to shape public discourse (as well as discourse on Columbia University's campus, perhaps?): | Aug 24 17:36 |
| schestowitz | Today's 'Objective' News, Brought to You by Microsoft Corporation | Aug 24 17:36 |
| schestowitz | A quick assessment of the possessions which drive out media's interests | Aug 24 17:36 |
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| schestowitz | 2007 article related to U.S. Power Elite's "Media-Gates Scandal": | Aug 24 17:36 |
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| schestowitz | Re: goodbsdnews and badbsdnews | Aug 24 17:52 |
| schestowitz | > good bsd news: ive run my editor in freebsd. | Aug 24 17:52 |
| schestowitz | > that means i managed to install pypy. | Aug 24 17:52 |
| schestowitz | > is also means i managed to install xorg. | Aug 24 17:52 |
| schestowitz | > pkg is as easy to use as apt-get so far. | Aug 24 17:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 24 17:52 |
| schestowitz | > this means that i have xorg running in both openbsd and freebsd. | Aug 24 17:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 24 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > im kind of pissed off though, because theyre removing the pypy port by | Aug 24 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > the end of the year. | Aug 24 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 24 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > because "its based on python 2.7 which is eol" | Aug 24 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 24 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > what the fuck? thats like removing webkit because google abandons chrome. | Aug 24 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 24 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > pypy is NOT based on cpython. and only cypython is eol. so someone is | Aug 24 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > VERY, VERY full of shit. this is not how you go about endearing me to | Aug 24 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > freebsd. ill try to talk to the pypy devs about it. they offer binaries | Aug 24 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > for several distros. | Aug 24 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 24 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > less than a week since i first installed bsd. this machine i just added | Aug 24 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > xorg and pypy to (also wget... pkg install wget) is the first one i | Aug 24 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > installed bsd (freebsd) on. | Aug 24 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 24 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > oh, by the way-- i never read how to install anything. i picked it up | Aug 24 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > from watching 20 seconds of a youtube video. i did read the freebsd faq | Aug 24 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > and ive been working on the handbook as well, but sometimes watching | Aug 24 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > someone do it is far more encouraging than the manual is. just saying. | Aug 24 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 24 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > "oh but i hate watching video when i can read faster" -- ME TOO! | Aug 24 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > thatswhywheniwatchinformativevideos, | Aug 24 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > thespeakeroftensoundslikeasmurfonamphetamines. | Aug 24 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > you know, like that. | Aug 24 17:53 |
| schestowitz | >> What is malloc? | Aug 24 17:55 |
| schestowitz | > https://man.openbsd.org/freezero.3 | Aug 24 17:55 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-man.openbsd.org | malloc(3) - OpenBSD manual pages | Aug 24 17:55 | |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 24 17:55 |
| schestowitz | > There are at least several current OpenBSD developers using Patreon. | Aug 24 17:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 24 17:55 |
| schestowitz | >> I can pare some server RAM is people want it ;-) | Aug 24 17:55 |
| schestowitz | I know what malloc is in the programming context as I've used it, but it seemed out of places in list of benefits. | Aug 24 17:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bobafeldman1/status/1297921809707347969 | Aug 24 19:43 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@bobafeldman1: @schestowitz august 21, 2020 article about Bill Gates's role in mass media manipulation/journalism: https://t.co/RdeDmSOxUk | Aug 24 19:43 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.cjr.org | Journalism’s Gates keepers - Columbia Journalism Review | Aug 24 19:43 | |
| schestowitz | : A New #TimSchwab Investigative Report on #BillGates' Bribery of the Media and Beyond (for #Hagiographies and Salesmanship) http://techrights.org/2020/08/24/bill-gates-bribery-of-the-media/ | Aug 24 19:43 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | A New Tim Schwab Investigative Report on Bill Gates’ Bribery of the Media and Beyond (for Hagiographies and Salesmanship) | Techrights | Aug 24 19:43 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bobafeldman1/status/1297921476977467392 | Aug 24 19:43 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@bobafeldman1: @schestowitz august 21, 2020 article on Columbia Journalism Review website, related to U.S. Power Elite's "Media-Ga… https://t.co/XzP9Mp2y2F | Aug 24 19:43 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@bobafeldman1: @schestowitz august 21, 2020 article on Columbia Journalism Review website, related to U.S. Power Elite's "Media-Ga… https://t.co/XzP9Mp2y2F | Aug 24 19:43 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 24 19:43 |
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| schestowitz | august 21, 2020 article on Columbia Journalism Review website, related to U.S. Power Elite's "Media-Gates Scandal" that might interest you: | Aug 24 19:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 24 19:43 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SagebrushTimes/status/1297822178876915712 | Aug 24 19:44 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SagebrushTimes: @schestowitz Hogwash | Aug 24 19:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rodgersnotes/status/1297586880201064449 | Aug 24 19:45 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@rodgersnotes: Does anyone know the secret solution? https://t.co/dszGS1U67I If so, please pass it along Thanks @LibOCon… https://t.co/Z9DwXRuYJk | Aug 24 19:45 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@rodgersnotes: Today, @LibreOffice is going rogue once again. I was just trying to do some simple cut and paste, and Surprise!… https://t.co/F7yEHUeKFJ | Aug 24 19:45 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@rodgersnotes: Does anyone know the secret solution? https://t.co/dszGS1U67I If so, please pass it along Thanks @LibOCon… https://t.co/Z9DwXRuYJk | Aug 24 19:45 | |
| schestowitz | Does anyone know the secret solution? | Aug 24 19:45 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rodgersnotes/status/1297586609857138689 | Aug 24 19:45 |
| schestowitz | If so, please pass it along | Aug 24 19:45 |
| schestowitz | Thanks | Aug 24 19:45 |
| schestowitz | @LibOCon | Aug 24 19:45 |
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| schestowitz | @TechRepublic | Aug 24 19:45 |
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