●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, September 24, 2022 ●● ● Sep 24 [00:27] Techrights-sec fixed the permissions on /var/log/apache2/ [00:27] Techrights-sec it is now in the group adm [00:27] schestowitz-TR thanks, i am working on the po stuff atm [00:27] schestowitz-TR *epo [00:39] Techrights-sec systemd's goal is non-technical: the decommodification of the distros [00:39] Techrights-sec a la The Halloween Documents but with IBM this time around rather than only M$ [00:39] Techrights-sec by the way, it might be a good idea to revisit the Halloween Documents next [00:39] Techrights-sec month. It being October plus what's going on with systemd combine to make [00:39] Techrights-sec a strong reason. [00:39] Techrights-sec I'm noticing that even though robots.txt has "Crawl-delay: 10" the "binbot" [00:39] Techrights-sec and a few others seem to be really bothering tm-new. I have not checked to [00:39] Techrights-sec see if they are constantly re-downloading the same pages again and again [00:39] Techrights-sec but at first glance the rate at which they are harvesting implies that. [00:39] Techrights-sec Should we turn on mod_ratelimit for the bot's addresses? [00:39] Techrights-sec Or use the option of tc with queuing for the bot's addresses? [00:56] schestowitz-TR bear with me while i finish the epo staff, avoiding multitasking.. [00:56] schestowitz-TR *stuff [00:56] schestowitz-TR ok, draft ready [00:56] schestowitz-TR catching up with ytalk [00:56] schestowitz-TR wanna spot-check? [00:56] schestowitz-TR systemd is not the only thing to cause such issues, but it's a large example of it [00:56] schestowitz-TR I can think of seveal more, inc. some from Canonical [00:56] schestowitz-TR now with LP at Microsoft and WSL marketing with new slant (systemd) we can point to the Hal Docs [00:56] schestowitz-TR and show what that means [00:56] schestowitz-TR probably a big task [00:56] schestowitz-TR regarding bots, I've not chjecked logs, except that time I mentioned numbers 1-2 weeks ago [00:56] schestowitz-TR just grepped for shtml and rss/xml [00:57] Techrights-sec checking [00:57] Techrights-sec The opening sentence in the summary is confusing. [00:57] Techrights-sec "The Central Staff Committee of the European Patent Office (EPO)" could be the [00:57] Techrights-sec start and then leave the "EPO" acronym in the rest. [00:57] Techrights-sec The second paragraph probably alludes to harassment, bullying, or other illegal [00:57] Techrights-sec behavior. It would be good to be more specific. "toxic male" is not [00:57] Techrights-sec a legally actionable fault AFAIK unless it involves an illegal behavior [00:58] schestowitz-TR right, i will clarfy [00:58] schestowitz-TR she used a different term, which i quote [00:58] schestowitz-TR staff remembers what she said [00:58] schestowitz-TR even many years later [00:58] Techrights-sec And a word or two about the significance of the two HTML parts would help: [00:58] Techrights-sec why should the public be interested? ● Sep 24 [01:00] schestowitz-TR handing over at work atm (1am) [01:00] schestowitz-TR i got 1.5 hours left till cutoff (bulletin) [01:00] schestowitz-TR will reword a bit [01:00] schestowitz-TR I assumer you saw no typos/layout issues [01:00] schestowitz-TR it was my first pass [01:00] Techrights-sec I was looking for the topic and theme [01:01] schestowitz-TR catching typos as welkl helps [01:01] schestowitz-TR it's the hioghest priority in blogs, then in irc bot, then informal irc chat [01:01] schestowitz-TR as people nitpick on such stuff [01:01] schestowitz-TR to change the subject [01:01] schestowitz-TR and resort to ad hom [01:05] Techrights-sec ack [01:05] Techrights-sec Speaking of bots again, here are some data that bingbot is running amok: [01:05] Techrights-sec % awk '/bingbot/ && $7~/^\/n\// {a[$7]++} END { for (u in a) {if(a[u]>0){print a[u], u;} } }' /var/log/apache2/tuxmachines.org.access.log | sort -rn [01:05] Techrights-sec (the >0 can be tuned to a higher threshold) [01:05] schestowitz-TR thanks, will leave this to you [01:05] schestowitz-TR am doing handover [01:05] schestowitz-TR will amend epo article after that [01:05] schestowitz-TR then do a meme [01:05] schestowitz-TR btw, did you watch the video on excesss deaths? [01:06] Techrights-sec In other ways, one can see that those are all GET requests and not HEAD or [01:06] Techrights-sec if-modified-since requests [01:06] Techrights-sec No, I usually can't get to the videos lately. [01:06] Techrights-sec I do check the accompanying text though. [01:08] schestowitz-TR tl;dr: across europe exxcess deaths soar this past summer [01:08] schestowitz-TR and nobody is explaining why [01:08] Techrights-sec Ok, I'll think about tc or mod_ratelimit and which is less difficult in the [01:08] Techrights-sec long run. [01:08] Techrights-sec Yes. There are many. It gets covered over. [01:17] schestowitz-TR https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/09/covid-19-coronavirus-pandemic-omicron-boosters-20-september/ [01:18] schestowitz-TR https://www.destatis.de/EN/Themes/Cross-Section/Corona/Society/population_death.html [01:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.weforum.org | COVID-19: What you need to know about the pandemic this week | World Economic Forum [01:18] Techrights-sec https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/09/covid-19-coronavirus-pandemic-omicron-boosters-20-september/ [01:18] Techrights-sec https://www.destatis.de/EN/Themes/Cross-Section/Corona/Society/population_death.html [01:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.destatis.de | Number of deaths and excess mortality - German Federal Statistical Office [01:20] schestowitz-TR my mom got 4 jabs, got infected 3 times AFTER the third [01:20] schestowitz-TR the infections were obv. [01:20] schestowitz-TR you sort of know when you feel ill [01:20] schestowitz-TR the body won't tell you if it defeats the virus upon entry [01:20] schestowitz-TR I told her it has long-term damage [01:20] schestowitz-TR but she isn't listening [01:20] schestowitz-TR too drunk of gov. assurances [01:20] schestowitz-TR sshe thinks it's just another flu [01:22] Techrights-sec Yes it apparently causes long term damage each time. [01:24] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:25] schestowitz-TR was it you weho sent me the link from weforum or another forum re longterm mental health damage? [01:25] schestowitz-TR i forgot the domain [01:25] schestowitz-TR men toioned it in irc twice [01:25] schestowitz-TR after you had sent it [01:25] schestowitz-TR spoke to mate over phone 15+ mins hours ago [01:25] schestowitz-TR he is coming over here tomorrow [01:25] schestowitz-TR referee for rianne's application [01:25] schestowitz-TR he is the one who sent me this video [01:25] schestowitz-TR riane turns out to have watched his videos before [01:25] schestowitz-TR he's really causing a panic here in the regime [01:25] schestowitz-TR and the billBC had to do "rebuttals" [01:25] schestowitz-TR because he shows what the gov. is tryingf to dent [01:25] schestowitz-TR as I myself showed [01:25] schestowitz-TR rianne mentioned somem guy to me showing the same as me [01:25] schestowitz-TR but I did not know who he was [01:25] schestowitz-TR had not seen it till today [01:25] schestowitz-TR when mike mentioned him and sent me the link [01:25] schestowitz-TR the data does not lie _much_ [01:26] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:28] Techrights-sec Probably [01:28] Techrights-sec Statistics do not lie, only mislead. :/ [01:28] Techrights-sec A "recent" problem is that it is time-effective for clowns to mash the data [01:28] Techrights-sec through model after model, regardless of relevance, until they get the output [01:28] Techrights-sec they wanted rather than picking the relevant model and reading what it tells [01:28] Techrights-sec them about the data. [01:28] schestowitz-TR i pointed out many counterproints to mike [01:28] schestowitz-TR inc. how the excees is calculated [01:28] schestowitz-TR past 5 yearssd [01:28] schestowitz-TR so in 2022 we compare 2 covid years to 2 non-covid [01:28] schestowitz-TR and then average those [01:28] schestowitz-TR so you need the raw, absolute numbers [01:28] schestowitz-TR and I downloaded, then uploaded the reports for every year since about 15 years ago [01:28] schestowitz-TR to my site [01:28] schestowitz-TR and showed the relevant graphis [01:28] schestowitz-TR if there is push-back asna sense the public was misled [01:28] schestowitz-TR I will have all the data//.info at hand [01:29] Techrights-sec A rolling base point will make the curve look smaller as we progress into the [01:29] Techrights-sec third year of this pandemic. [01:29] Techrights-sec Pushback is not really possible because so many are pacified via social control [01:29] Techrights-sec media and that filters what they are 1) allowed to write, and 2) what they [01:29] Techrights-sec are allowed to read. [01:29] Techrights-sec I think using tc will allow the most flexibility, but it will take some time [01:29] Techrights-sec to plan it out properly. [01:31] schestowitz-TR I noticed thatt gulagtube sot of flagged his videos [01:31] schestowitz-TR adding links below it [01:31] schestowitz-TR to the "official" message [01:31] schestowitz-TR I guess they found no valid reason to outright ban him [01:31] schestowitz-TR like oither videos I saw of doctors who dissent [01:31] schestowitz-TR he clearly pisses off the powers that be [01:31] schestowitz-TR pbased on what rianne saw of him in billbc and gulagtube [01:31] schestowitz-TR of course he did not mentioon the v word even once in his video [01:34] schestowitz-TR prior to being able to watch his video [01:34] schestowitz-TR I was presented with TWO long ads [01:34] schestowitz-TR the first one I was not ablke to even skip [01:34] schestowitz-TR so I hit mute and looked away [01:34] schestowitz-TR then come the second one [01:34] schestowitz-TR I was only forced to watch firsdt 5 seconds [01:34] schestowitz-TR then had to manually intervene [01:34] schestowitz-TR lots of work just to watch some video, with some "flagging" below it [01:34] schestowitz-TR youtube is social control [01:34] schestowitz-TR and it started by flagging russian and chinese channels [01:34] schestowitz-TR later it kjust BANNED those channels [01:34] schestowitz-TR 'cox war' [01:34] schestowitz-TR *xcoz [01:34] schestowitz-TR now it does the same to british doctors [01:34] schestowitz-TR "coz" safety" [01:34] schestowitz-TR what he says is not unreasonable [01:34] schestowitz-TR but it upsets some firms [01:34] schestowitz-TR while bill gates PAYS YouTube [01:34] schestowitz-TR for many ads [01:35] Techrights-sec They could make up an excuse but anyone who is off-message gets flagged or [01:35] Techrights-sec banned. [01:35] Techrights-sec YouTube is about unusable anyway. I checked for the first time in months and [01:35] Techrights-sec there are 10x ads most of which are unskippable and then the comments are [01:35] Techrights-sec in some random, non-chronological sequence. Complete waste of time and I amd [01:35] Techrights-sec disappointed in any vloggers still feeding that platform. [01:35] Techrights-sec There is also the 'endless' scrolling or whatever it is called, which makes [01:35] Techrights-sec the unskippable videos worse because you cannot listen while skimming comments [01:35] Techrights-sec any more. [01:35] Techrights-sec % awk '/bingbot/ && $7~/^\/n\// {a[$1]++} END { for (u in a) {print u; } }' /var/log/apache2/tuxmachines.org.access.log | sort -rn -k1,1rn -k2,2rn -k3,3rn - [01:35] Techrights-sec k4,4rn -t . [01:41] schestowitz-TR what i like about all this is, [01:41] schestowitz-TR 1) it's not going away or aging. we'll keep getting data, one way of another [01:41] schestowitz-TR 2) it shows web suppression/censorship in action [01:41] schestowitz-TR (gulag did not make it pleasant to acess this video) [01:41] schestowitz-TR 3) i said to rianne tonight, owing to working from home we likely dodged a bullet [01:41] schestowitz-TR either the virus or another aspects [01:41] schestowitz-TR my health has been fine throughout and we built some savings [01:41] schestowitz-TR also lowered bills [01:41] schestowitz-TR by next summer she might pursue the passport (next step) [01:41] schestowitz-TR though it's not clear how much she would use it [01:41] schestowitz-TR i last flew to germany (2018) [01:41] Techrights-sec #2 is very important but due to ongoing campaigns, including strawman whackdoodle crazies and kooks, it is hard to do [01:41] Techrights-sec Best to have the passport on hand anyway [01:42] schestowitz-TR after naturalisation [01:46] schestowitz-TR in 2010 flights were still ok compared to now [01:46] schestowitz-TR where they demand your phone [01:46] schestowitz-TR and I'm told now they want you to test, quarantine etc. [01:46] schestowitz-TR and then follow some strict rules on board [01:46] schestowitz-TR if you catch this one virus, you cannot fly back [01:46] schestowitz-TR and no refund for the missed flight [01:46] schestowitz-TR so why the fork would I even think of flying? [01:46] schestowitz-TR prices also went up by a LOT [01:46] schestowitz-TR i sometimes have unpleasant dreams where I cannot distance myself from people [01:46] schestowitz-TR and 3 years down the drain [01:51] Techrights-sec It's far worse than that, if I read correctly. There are worse conditions [01:51] Techrights-sec than ever before both onboard and in the airport. That goes double for [01:51] Techrights-sec the mistreatment of customers. [01:58] schestowitz-TR kjids have a warped sense of reality [01:58] schestowitz-TR and very selective memories [01:58] schestowitz-TR but from what I remember in the 80s (domestic) and early 90s (portgula, spain) [01:58] schestowitz-TR the flights weere pleasant and airports were just like bus stations with passports and shops (duty free) [01:58] schestowitz-TR the seats on the plane were good [01:58] schestowitz-TR meals were integral part of the journey [01:58] schestowitz-TR prices were still high (they should be; it discourages BS 'travel') [01:58] schestowitz-TR and service was like customer service [01:58] schestowitz-TR not kids' gloves [01:58] schestowitz-TR in the pedo sense, everyone a suspect [01:58] schestowitz-TR tat was after lockerbee and other attacks had shown risk [01:58] schestowitz-TR but reaction to them was not panic and oppression [01:58] schestowitz-TR 9/11 was one of several escalations [01:58] schestowitz-TR even "good" airports like copehagen suck [01:58] schestowitz-TR I never enjoyed airports [01:58] schestowitz-TR and they are as time-inefficient as the planes themselves [01:58] schestowitz-TR you often spend x2 times as much in and traveling to/from airports [01:58] schestowitz-TR than you spend onboard [01:58] schestowitz-TR what a shitty roi [01:58] schestowitz-TR i say i';d rather sit on a sofa at home [01:58] schestowitz-TR then be on a plane or in airport (or communing) [01:58] schestowitz-TR so there has to be very compelling reason to travel [01:58] schestowitz-TR like funeral [01:58] schestowitz-TR even to funerals I rarely fly [01:58] schestowitz-TR seems like a luxiry [01:59] schestowitz-TR luxury [01:59] schestowitz-TR in the days of cross-atlantic boat travel you could not travel fast enough to attend funerals [01:59] schestowitz-TR you used telegram or similar ● Sep 24 [02:00] Techrights-sec The bot attacks from: [02:00] Techrights-sec 207.46.0.0/16, 157.60.0.0/16, 157.56.0.0/14, 157.54.0.0/15, 40.96.0.0/12, 40.80.0.0/12, 40.76.0.0/14, 40.74.0.0/15, 40.125.0.0/17, 40.124.0.0/16, 40.120.0.0 [02:00] Techrights-sec They have more contact hours per day with CCP's TikTok than they do with [02:00] Techrights-sec friends or family combined. Thus although they may speak English just fine [02:00] Techrights-sec they are not culturally British. That distorts their worldview further. [02:00] Techrights-sec Yes, in the 1980s and the 1990s, passengers were treated as valued customers [02:00] Techrights-sec instead of as paroled criminals. The prices are high, but not high enough [02:00] Techrights-sec to impair the real polluters: business travel. [02:00] Techrights-sec https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/nov/17/people-cause-global-aviation-emissions-study-covid-19 [02:00] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theguardian.com | 1% of people cause half of global aviation emissions study | Airline industry | The Guardian [02:00] Techrights-sec https://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DataSetCode=AIRTRANS_CO2 [02:00] Techrights-sec On the continent, in most situations, rail travel is far more time-efficient [02:00] Techrights-sec and less risky for the health, not to mention lower impact for emissions [02:00] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-stats.oecd.org | Air Transport CO2 Emissions [02:01] schestowitz-TR the guardian failed to note it takes bribes from the 1 (not 1%) that pollutes the most ^_^ [02:02] Techrights-sec true, they omit mentioning such conflicts of interest -- always [02:05] schestowitz-TR the boat we took to ireland was swedish [02:05] schestowitz-TR stina line [02:05] schestowitz-TR *stena [02:05] schestowitz-TR not sure how well they do now [02:05] schestowitz-TR but the time getting TO the boat was long too [02:05] schestowitz-TR we took the coach, then had to cross a tunnel by taxi [02:05] schestowitz-TR smae in northern ireland [02:05] schestowitz-TR at least the time on the boat itself was almost ok [02:05] Techrights-sec ack [02:05] schestowitz-TR but still long waiting times [02:05] schestowitz-TR woul;d not do that again soon [02:05] schestowitz-TR we just need a good catapult with trampolines [02:05] schestowitz-TR "incoming!" [02:05] schestowitz-TR or beam me up scotty (teleport) [02:19] schestowitz-TR humans were never good at covering long distances [02:19] schestowitz-TR no wheels [02:19] schestowitz-TR and no wings [02:19] schestowitz-TR even a lack of hydrodynamics [02:19] schestowitz-TR we're a tree-dwelling animal that lost its ability to even clib on tress [02:19] schestowitz-TR climb [02:28] Techrights-sec Walking is very energy efficient, even when carrying a load. [02:30] schestowitz-TR per mile, underwater movement is efficient [02:30] schestowitz-TR birds are light [02:30] schestowitz-TR soi gliding is also efficent [02:30] schestowitz-TR humans lack inertia [02:30] schestowitz-TR we compensate by making "vehicles" [02:34] Techrights-sec https://www.themarginalian.org/2011/12/21/steve-jobs-bicycle-for-the-mind-1990/ [02:34] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.themarginalian.org | Steve Jobs on Why Computers Are Like a Bicycle for the Mind (1990) The Marginalian [02:34] Techrights-sec Sort of the opposite of what computers (software) has become in recent years [02:34] Techrights-sec "... its the equivalent of a bicycle for our minds." ● Sep 24 [04:07] schestowitz-TR social/techpol ~850k [04:07] schestowitz-TR same for techrights [04:07] schestowitz-TR so it was split by topic [04:07] schestowitz-TR going to sleep in a bit [04:07] schestowitz-TR lasange sheets in the fridge (after months in freezer) ● Sep 24 [08:17] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Sep 24 [09:03] schestowitz-TR itwire offline [09:03] schestowitz-TR still azure? [09:04] Techrights-sec checking [09:04] Techrights-sec maybe not any more: [09:04] Techrights-sec route: 101.0.65.0/24 [09:04] Techrights-sec origin: AS55803 [09:04] Techrights-sec descr: DIGITAL PACIFIC PTY LTD [09:04] Techrights-sec It's online at the moment. [09:04] Techrights-sec But nothing of note lately. [09:04] Techrights-sec Just some politics and a bit of fluff [09:04] schestowitz-TR rianne cooking a lasagne now [09:04] schestowitz-TR smells nice [09:28] schestowitz-TR it's ready [09:28] schestowitz-TR we managed to use ALL the sheets (pasta) and almost all the cheese [09:28] schestowitz-TR made space in the freezer for almost 15 packs of humous we found discounted [09:28] schestowitz-TR i don't have enough topics to cover, i'll do daily links shortl [09:28] Techrights-sec :) [09:28] Techrights-sec Hmm. I had just forgotten a good topic based on recent news, aside from [09:28] Techrights-sec a revisit of the Halloween Document in the context of current events. [09:29] schestowitz-TR happens to me a lot [09:29] schestowitz-TR i need to write down more [09:29] schestowitz-TR you sometimes wrongly assume you'd remember later [09:29] schestowitz-TR and then "it's not so important anyway" [09:29] schestowitz-TR but time becomes available [09:30] Techrights-sec News deserts? [09:30] Techrights-sec PeppermintOS Devuan variant? [09:30] schestowitz-TR yeah, but what about it? [09:31] Techrights-sec General decommodification of protocols, i.e. mail protocols, and standards, [09:31] Techrights-sec i.e. HTTP [09:31] Techrights-sec HTTP/3 looks like it can't be run by normal programmers because it moves so [09:31] Techrights-sec much of what used to be covered by TCP up higher into the stack. As a side [09:31] Techrights-sec effect it blocks TCP-based proxies such as VPNs and specifically the Tor network [09:33] schestowitz-TR i don't know SPDY well enough except the basics [09:33] schestowitz-TR and I am guessing many others, except stenberg who must grasp it, cannot know either [09:33] schestowitz-TR we studied networking in a course 20+ years ago, inc. ipv6 [09:33] schestowitz-TR all this time later ipv4 is STILL predominant [09:33] schestowitz-TR and the promise of QC has not quite materialised [09:34] Techrights-sec It's not SPDY [09:34] Techrights-sec Exactly. The pool of people capable of managing it shrinks to what one [09:34] Techrights-sec can count on one hand. In the old days, with HTTP over TCP, writing a web [09:34] Techrights-sec server was basically considered the "Hello, World" of network service programming. [09:34] Techrights-sec IPv6 had lofty goals but was killed by over-engineering and complexity. [09:34] Techrights-sec Even Henning Brauer and his colleagues had headaches from it. [09:37] schestowitz-TR yes, that's the correct term [09:37] schestowitz-TR we see it outside the network stack too [09:37] schestowitz-TR P/Ls [09:37] schestowitz-TR UNIXes [09:37] schestowitz-TR CSS [09:37] schestowitz-TR you kill things by adding too much complexity [09:37] schestowitz-TR soon: linus [09:37] schestowitz-TR *linus [09:37] schestowitz-TR *linux [09:37] schestowitz-TR now you need more skills [09:37] schestowitz-TR not fewer [09:37] schestowitz-TR and they tell us that plain-text email is the "hard" part [09:37] schestowitz-TR con colivas wrote about it [09:37] schestowitz-TR and he was not visible this year [09:37] schestowitz-TR with human disease, which he studies as a physicians, the stuff reomains more or less the same [09:37] schestowitz-TR for 90%+ of the conditions [09:38] Techrights-sec By "helping" like helping restricted boot avoid scrutiny of the courts. [09:38] Techrights-sec I've been getting an increasing amount of javascript-laden web documents [09:38] Techrights-sec posing as e-mail, without an accompanying plaintext summary. So far those [09:38] Techrights-sec can be deleted without concern but I wonder for how much longer as Alphabet [09:38] Techrights-sec and M$ grab the last of e-mail. [09:39] Techrights-sec The work on restricted boot 1) helped M$ avoid the courts over such ongoing [09:39] Techrights-sec anti-competitive abuse of its OEM monopoly, 2) helped M$ gain control over [09:39] Techrights-sec the distros through Canonical using M$ key and not a general GNU/Linux keu [09:39] Techrights-sec or even a Ubuntu / Canonical key. ● Sep 24 [10:11] schestowitz-TR i think this lasgagne is 10-20 servings [10:11] schestowitz-TR lentils instead of meat [10:11] Techrights-sec ack [10:22] schestowitz-TR i am thinking how to fix the workflos and speed up publication [10:22] schestowitz-TR one approach is [10:22] schestowitz-TR make a share space for topics to cover in video [10:22] schestowitz-TR i find videos very helpful as initial outlet that then motivates to writes textual summary [10:22] schestowitz-TR but videos are better done in bulk [10:22] schestowitz-TR not one view with many topics in it [10:22] schestowitz-TR but pertinent bits, even short [10:22] schestowitz-TR yuou made about 3 topic suggestions [10:22] schestowitz-TR with links [10:22] schestowitz-TR in 2021 I managed to do about 3 videos a day [10:22] schestowitz-TR something then got in the way and I lost time, i think due to adding more rss feeds [10:26] Techrights-sec One file per topic, to avoid locking problems? Or set up some shared editor? [10:26] Techrights-sec IIRC you prefer to avoid Emacs even though it supports collaborative editing. [10:27] schestowitz-TR ytalk is like collaborative editing already [10:27] schestowitz-TR just need a way to mark topic to cover, even in 2 minutesd [10:27] schestowitz-TR like 3-minute rebuttal to the latest security FUD [10:27] schestowitz-TR i didn't cover any of the recent ones at all [10:30] schestowitz-TR re bombay, i remember this from my childhood [10:30] schestowitz-TR funny how garret insisted strongly on "dr" [10:30] schestowitz-TR usually a sign of insecurity when one insists on it [10:30] schestowitz-TR and "drpizza" gives toom for jokes [10:30] schestowitz-TR *room [10:30] schestowitz-TR http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-230922.html#tSep%2023%2008:33:15 [10:30] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, September 23, 2022 [10:31] Techrights-sec RSS / Atom feeds are very time-consuming to process, even though they are orders [10:31] Techrights-sec of magnitude faster to work with than raw HTTP/HTTPS. First there is the matter [10:31] Techrights-sec of topics covered within any given feed, that's fine, it's their feed. But it [10:31] Techrights-sec does take time to triage posts. Then once a post is triaged, it must be skimmed [10:31] Techrights-sec and the structure of each author and sometimes each post of each author [10:31] Techrights-sec has a different flow or structure making it impossible to have a shortcut [10:31] Techrights-sec method to skimming each. [10:32] Techrights-sec but with a very short cache [10:33] Techrights-sec Another topic would be investigating or at least raising the question of [10:33] Techrights-sec the non-technical control over the technical aspects (or lack thereof) for the [10:33] Techrights-sec Rust project via the CoC and other hobbles. [10:34] schestowitz-TR you mentioned mjg, was that related? [10:40] schestowitz-TR those topics are better off: [10:40] schestowitz-TR a) not touches firectly or [10:40] schestowitz-TR b) mentioned in passing inside a video [10:40] schestowitz-TR i think i have: protocol/mail/spdy [10:40] schestowitz-TR coc [10:40] schestowitz-TR youtueb censorship (i hope you saw the video by now; it's not long; second half is about google censoring him) [10:40] schestowitz-TR like i said, i don't keep a list but should [10:40] schestowitz-TR as it's fast to reecord and process '\in bulk' [10:40] schestowitz-TR and estblishign a solid pipeline would be a good investment [10:40] schestowitz-TR TR was barely active this past week; i barely "got around to it", i think due to irc occupying hours of attention [10:40] Techrights-sec not spdy the problem is now the proposed http/3 [10:42] schestowitz-TR webp pisss me off too [10:42] schestowitz-TR and they want to add yet more of these formats to the www [10:42] schestowitz-TR they prolifirate [10:42] schestowitz-TR oldeer client balk/choke [10:42] schestowitz-TR *clients [10:42] schestowitz-TR some cannot be updated, e.g. "smart" TVs [10:54] Techrights-sec Not keeping a list seems like a problem though. [10:54] Techrights-sec IRC as DoS ● Sep 24 [11:09] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@58nejqa2kp9h2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:23] Techrights-sec I'm wondering if there is even a raison d'tre for dedicated televisions any [11:23] Techrights-sec more. Increasingly people get their programming over TCP/IP so Kodi + a [11:23] Techrights-sec nicer but less expensive display would be less work, less cost, and more secure [11:23] Techrights-sec and more capable / flexible. [11:23] Techrights-sec What is the software patent encumberance for webp? https://github.com/ImageMagick/webp/blob/main/PATENTS [11:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-webp/PATENTS at main ImageMagick/webp GitHub [11:24] schestowitz-TR shit. just been oln the phone 20 mins [11:24] schestowitz-TR after i had received a distressed meil [11:24] schestowitz-TR froma prof frine [11:24] schestowitz-TR he got scammed by crypto cranks [11:24] schestowitz-TR lost $50k [11:24] schestowitz-TR brb, catcing up [11:24] schestowitz-TR i see many people scammed, they are av en afriaif/shy to speak about them [11:24] schestowitz-TR feeling stupid [11:24] schestowitz-TR and the scam is still online [11:24] schestowitz-TR now sure about webp patents [11:24] schestowitz-TR but maybe gulag has some but licensed others' [11:24] schestowitz-TR to make it "safe" [11:24] schestowitz-TR gulag is NOT helping with swpats [11:24] schestowitz-TR it helps uspto 'organise' the monopolies [11:25] schestowitz-TR same in EPO [11:25] schestowitz-TR *not sure [11:26] Techrights-sec :( [11:26] Techrights-sec cryptocurrency scammers? [11:26] Techrights-sec That's a lot of money to lose [11:26] Techrights-sec ack [11:26] Techrights-sec cryptocurrency is basically a scam to begin with. The experiment ended in 2009 [11:26] Techrights-sec when " Satoshi Nakamoto " dumped the experiment in the trash and shysters [11:26] Techrights-sec picked through the trash for his code, reminiscent of Bill digging through [11:26] Techrights-sec the trash for BASIC code. The shysters then have run with what they found [11:26] Techrights-sec in Nakamoto's trash. [11:26] Techrights-sec Google cannot be trusted much and is increasing the harm of sw patents over time [11:29] schestowitz-TR graveley the "$200,000,000 man" (he tells girls [11:29] schestowitz-TR who lives with dad and barely has $200,000 in the bank [11:29] schestowitz-TR more on that next year... there's court stuff related to this [11:29] schestowitz-TR they want him to prove he lost the job [11:29] schestowitz-TR "plastic" society [11:29] schestowitz-TR lies as the norm [11:29] schestowitz-TR with kirk wiebe said [11:30] schestowitz-TR *what [11:30] schestowitz-TR has 200 milliopn, takes MORTGAGE for a home [11:30] schestowitz-TR lives with dad and girlfriend, hopping between the two [11:30] schestowitz-TR serial plgiarist and drug dealer [11:30] schestowitz-TR microsoft: fancy beinga MANAGER? [11:30] Techrights-sec ack [11:30] Techrights-sec Another topic is that the pervasive presence of M$ products inside various [11:30] Techrights-sec national borders has put whole countries into severe crises regarding [11:30] Techrights-sec cybersecurity. For most, the situatin is intractable. The presence of M$ [11:30] Techrights-sec products is a problem in and of itself but in the big picture only a symptom [11:30] Techrights-sec of staffing problems and general managerial incompetence + malice. [11:30] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:34] schestowitz-TR the problem is bigger than microsoft [11:34] schestowitz-TR but microsoft is a big part of it [11:34] Techrights-sec [11:34] Techrights-sec And lack of actual educational opportunities in applied computer science [11:34] Techrights-sec *at a national level*. Yes, in that context, m$ is only a tool. But that [11:34] Techrights-sec does not absolve their complicity in dragging down whole countries and [11:34] Techrights-sec even whole economies. [11:34] Techrights-sec Windoze kills. [11:35] schestowitz-TR my head is too foggy satm to do 3 videos, i will focus fiorst in cleaning the feeds [11:35] schestowitz-TR then see if it clears up a bit [11:35] schestowitz-TR I lso exzpect a guest later [11:35] schestowitz-TR (he too fell for borderline scams... all that "gold " shit...in places he cannot see like spain) [11:35] schestowitz-TR it predates the shitcoins [11:35] schestowitz-TR men don't like to acknowledge mistake [11:35] schestowitz-TR it damages the image and 'masculinity' [11:35] schestowitz-TR so it can drag them deep into isolation and denial [11:36] Techrights-sec Excercise usually helps more than sitting in front of a screen. [11:36] Techrights-sec Even just 20 minutes at rate. [11:36] Techrights-sec :( [11:37] schestowitz-TR good idea, one productive way to take a break [11:37] schestowitz-TR not down, just mind not focused enough [11:37] schestowitz-TR posting links is drone-like at times [11:37] schestowitz-TR so lets the mind settle [11:37] schestowitz-TR esp. when working 18 hours a day [11:38] Techrights-sec It gives time to think and prioritize, too [11:38] Techrights-sec Yet it is still "sitting in front of a screen" [11:38] Techrights-sec If one needs a break from sitting in front of a screen then one must [11:38] Techrights-sec do something else than continuing to sit in front of a screen for the break [11:38] Techrights-sec to actually count [11:38] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [11:38] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [11:39] schestowitz-TR maybe I will take a hike around the stadium [11:39] schestowitz-TR there are some new statues there I've not seen yet, it's nearby [11:39] Techrights-sec Walking is usually exceptionally good for the body. [11:46] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [11:46] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 24 [12:37] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:43] schestowitz-TR back also [12:43] schestowitz-TR passed by the official man city stopre [12:43] schestowitz-TR a bit like a museaum on the way while doing the walk/jog [12:43] schestowitz-TR will do that again in the future [12:43] schestowitz-TR saw many tourists [12:43] Techrights-sec :) [12:43] Techrights-sec Instructions or directions? [12:43] schestowitz-TR some asked me for instructions [12:43] schestowitz-TR directions rather [12:44] schestowitz-TR anyway, it helped reset the mind [12:44] schestowitz-TR except when rianne started talkin about the friend again [12:57] schestowitz-TR you know, i figured it's similar to covid-19 [12:57] schestowitz-TR nobody wants to talk about facts anymore [12:57] schestowitz-TR that would be "endangering" [12:57] schestowitz-TR even if your complaint is that we don't do enough to protect people [12:57] schestowitz-TR people aren't meant to talk but let "officials" do the talking for them [12:57] schestowitz-TR in the uk (some other countries too; france for sure) we cannot talk about the issue [12:57] schestowitz-TR because of "investment" [12:57] schestowitz-TR the stadium I just went to is sportwashing exercise of uae [12:57] schestowitz-TR trying to open up prospects as airline/travel powerhouse [12:57] schestowitz-TR in case the oil empire sinks, which is inevitable sooner or later [12:57] schestowitz-TR we reap some benefit off the investment, but at what long-term cost? [12:57] schestowitz-TR it's similar to companies that take vc money [12:58] schestowitz-TR or founders [12:58] schestowitz-TR they lose the ability to lead and to judge [12:58] schestowitz-TR russia uses national energy resources for political leverga [12:58] schestowitz-TR in the same way gulf states do [12:58] schestowitz-TR putin did this in belarus, not does this in eu and beyond [12:58] schestowitz-TR cheap energy? there are conditions ● Sep 24 [13:01] Techrights-sec Yes and Germany was warned for decades and, strangely, the US backed off on [13:01] Techrights-sec sanctions, allowing Nordstream2 to go ahead in spite of pretty much everyone [13:01] Techrights-sec seeing where it would lead to. I wonder how much overlap there is between [13:01] Techrights-sec the group of German politicians that pushed for the Nordstream2 and those [13:01] Techrights-sec that ensure that only M$ products are deployed in federal activities. [13:06] schestowitz-TR schroder? [13:07] Techrights-sec It was over the last 5 or so years. [13:07] schestowitz-TR yes, but gazprom board scandsals is not outdated [13:08] Techrights-sec The warnings were for decades before that too, but as things started coming to [13:09] Techrights-sec a head in recent years, the warnings had to increase in both frequency and [13:09] Techrights-sec loudness. Germany ignored all the "risks" [13:11] Techrights-sec Thinking about the long term attack against e-mail as a commodity service, [13:11] Techrights-sec most, nearly all, software development is coordinated using e-mail. Eliminating [13:11] Techrights-sec that will create chokepoints and crash efficients to a promille of what it is [13:11] Techrights-sec now. [13:12] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [13:13] Techrights-sec Yes, proprietarty silos exist but they cannot spontaneously interact with other [13:13] Techrights-sec silos, the are not (technically) reliable nor secure/private, and have [13:13] Techrights-sec *very* inefficient proprietary interfaces restricted to very specific platforms. [13:14] schestowitz-TR in messaging, protocols exist or existed too [13:14] schestowitz-TR now there are many that are islands and proprietary [13:14] schestowitz-TR i still use the landline a lot [13:15] schestowitz-TR so-caled 'IT' proficiency makes sure workarounds exist and are used [13:15] schestowitz-TR but maybe not with "the enterprise" [13:15] schestowitz-TR so what's needed it better education [13:15] schestowitz-TR hacker culture [13:15] schestowitz-TR and stuff such as IRC [13:15] schestowitz-TR IRC != libera [13:15] schestowitz-TR libera has its own objectives, almost same staff as OFTC [13:15] schestowitz-TR or whatever the acronym was [13:15] Techrights-sec 'IT' has become a euphemism for an embedded M$ Sales team [13:15] Techrights-sec FSF should not touch Libera with a barge pole [13:16] schestowitz-TR too late now, i cationed rms about it and quoted his reply [13:16] schestowitz-TR same re billg in sept. 2019 [13:16] Techrights-sec Not too late, but certainly much less convenient than doing it right the first [13:16] Techrights-sec time. [13:17] schestowitz-TR fsf and gnu are now renting off the "intel agencies" of companies that seek to steal from the commons the way i see it, or just steal the commons [13:17] schestowitz-TR they did a token congrats to zoe when she was annnounced [13:17] schestowitz-TR a network-wide message was sent [13:17] schestowitz-TR but nothing pro-rms [13:19] Techrights-sec ack [13:21] schestowitz-TR i've not messaged him in month as meaningful exchanges with him are less probable [13:21] schestowitz-TR he is babysat by someone/s [13:21] schestowitz-TR it's obscene that gnu/linux continues to grow [13:21] schestowitz-TR this coming tue turning 39 [13:21] schestowitz-TR but the people who made it happen are stored inside a cupboard [13:22] Techrights-sec Yes, FSF could prepare a proper Freedom campaign during the coming year, [13:22] Techrights-sec with contingency plans for taking on Vista12 should the opportunity arise. [13:24] schestowitz-TR like the absoloute bat*** insane campaign of asking microsoft for windows source code [13:24] schestowitz-TR ans shipping them a HDD for it? [13:24] schestowitz-TR iirc, that was mattl idea [13:24] schestowitz-TR mostly legitimises windows [13:24] schestowitz-TR and makes it look like we are longing for openWINDOWS [13:24] schestowitz-TR that's not revolutionary [13:24] schestowitz-TR but it got a lot of attention from Microsoft 'news' (noise) sites [13:24] schestowitz-TR maybe because it sucked [13:24] schestowitz-TR they could instead say something for WINE and even reactOS (the latter is not a good idea either) [13:25] Techrights-sec Yes that any move to legitimize M$ or Windows is harmful to society not just [13:25] Techrights-sec software. ReactOS is interesting but less serious than TempleOS [13:25] Techrights-sec Either way, ReactOS does not do away with the technical shortcomings of [13:25] Techrights-sec bad design and bad implementation [13:28] schestowitz-TR echrights-news> The price inflation crisis... not energy https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/23/what-you-need-know-about-energy-crisis | Source: Common Dreams [13:28] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | What You Need to Know About the Energy Crisis | Richard Heinberg [13:28] schestowitz-TR -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.commondreams.org | Opinion | What You Need to Know About the Energy Crisis | Richard Heinberg [13:29] schestowitz-TR It was all along a mistake (short-sighted convenience), a HUGE mistake in fact, to build an energy grid and food supply that relies on relations with your political [13:38] Techrights-sec Ah, that explains the lack of recent development: [13:38] Techrights-sec "Terry A. Davis (1969 - 2018)" [13:38] Techrights-sec https://templeos.org/ [13:38] Techrights-sec Now there's just ReactOS left in that category. [13:38] Techrights-sec https://reactos.org/ [13:38] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-templeos.org | TempleOS [13:38] Techrights-sec In contrast, Haiku OS seems to be doing ok: [13:38] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-reactos.org | Front Page | ReactOS Project [13:38] Techrights-sec https://www.haiku-os.org/ [13:38] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.haiku-os.org | Home | Haiku Project [13:42] Techrights-sec http://www.codersnotes.com/notes/a-constructive-look-at-templeos/ [13:42] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.codersnotes.com | A Constructive Look At TempleOS [13:42] schestowitz-TR well, he's dead [13:43] schestowitz-TR like gary [13:43] schestowitz-TR died in a bar brawl or something [13:43] schestowitz-TR perfectly routine ● Sep 24 [16:26] Techrights-sec http://www.codersnotes.com/notes/a-constructive-look-at-templeos/ [16:26] Techrights-sec Kildall aparently tried to see a doctor but was sent home [16:26] Techrights-sec Ian Murdock did actually see a doctor but was beaten a second time at home. [16:26] Techrights-sec Dang that is going to be seven years ago already. [16:26] Techrights-sec Who knows what actually happene to him after that. He was ranting online [16:26] Techrights-sec that he was preparing a description of what had happened. Then he was dead. [16:26] Techrights-sec His family has been quiet about all that. [16:27] schestowitz-TR had a friend over for 3 hours, he is also rianne's referee [16:27] schestowitz-TR so fell behind schedule for the day [16:27] schestowitz-TR will still do videos later [16:42] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:42] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:44] schestowitz-TR had a very very very long talk, inc. what happens in TR with the brigades [16:44] schestowitz-TR seems likee a very familiar tactic [16:44] schestowitz-TR I've know him over 20 years [16:44] schestowitz-TR *known [16:44] schestowitz-TR he plans to break the world record this winter [16:45] schestowitz-TR across the road from us at the stadium [16:45] schestowitz-TR (over 50s) [16:50] Techrights-sec ack [16:52] schestowitz-TR turns out the jab ruined his kneww too [16:52] schestowitz-TR my two best friends here [16:52] schestowitz-TR both with knee issues because of astrozeneca and knee specialist blames it too [16:52] schestowitz-TR saying it was very commonplace [16:52] schestowitz-TR the media... silence [16:52] Techrights-sec ack [16:52] Techrights-sec Interesting and unfortunate. [16:58] Techrights-sec THe media is not quite silent, they amplify the strawman arguments and then [16:58] Techrights-sec use those to ridicule all dissent up to even merely questioning the approach [16:58] Techrights-sec chosen by the key pharmaceutical companies ● Sep 24 [17:01] schestowitz-TR I will varry on reporting what I see every eweek [17:01] schestowitz-TR in my own style, which is safe and factual [17:01] schestowitz-TR if the data becomes less available, less readily accessible, or less complete/reliable (they [17:01] schestowitz-TR did they several times already; changing defs and announcing "missing" past data) [17:01] schestowitz-TR then I will turn to alternative sources of data and use those [17:01] schestowitz-TR I always say, [17:01] schestowitz-TR it's hard to hide body/bodies or lies about the number of people who died [17:01] schestowitz-TR because death is a very significant event in one's "life"time [17:01] schestowitz-TR I also make local copies of many PDFs in my site [17:01] schestowitz-TR one day the original links will be broken [17:01] schestowitz-TR esp. if there is greater financial incentive to break them [17:01] schestowitz-TR and censoring british doctors who cite official data by deleting their youtube accounts won't be enough [17:02] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:02] Techrights-sec Changing the definitions and baselines are the most problematic and deceptive [17:02] Techrights-sec because it (intentionally) prevents tracking the situation over time. [17:05] schestowitz-TR told mike, it is AMAZING how, looking at old veideos of that same doctor yesterday/last nightm it turtned out we showed and said the SAQME thing [17:05] schestowitz-TR though I never watched him before [17:05] schestowitz-TR because we both ended up chasing death related data [17:05] schestowitz-TR and en ded up with ONS [17:05] schestowitz-TR and then reached the exact same conclusions [17:05] schestowitz-TR and made remarks on omisssions and averages [17:05] schestowitz-TR except [17:05] schestowitz-TR I cannot be easily censotred [17:05] Techrights-sec That adds substantial support to the conclusion then. :/ [17:05] schestowitz-TR whereas he is threatened with loss of ALL his videos ever [17:05] schestowitz-TR videos that years ago helped save lives in poor countries [17:05] schestowitz-TR reminds me of winston in 1984 [17:05] schestowitz-TR they steer him towards "rightspeak" [17:05] schestowitz-TR by intimidation [17:05] schestowitz-TR 2+2=5 [17:08] schestowitz-TR let's jsut say that my 3 best friends all report very serious angst and (I think) have regarets [17:08] schestowitz-TR all of them, except one i think, must work with other people and thus to them it is barely a choice [17:08] schestowitz-TR rianne and i both work from home and it pays off now [17:08] schestowitz-TR btw, he says i should keep my job [17:08] schestowitz-TR both he and rianne saw reports today re expectation of 24% or 25% inflation by April [17:08] schestowitz-TR hence, value of savings will erode considerably [17:08] schestowitz-TR so I said, ok, I won't rush to leave [17:08] schestowitz-TR he also knows how severance is canculate for my job [17:08] schestowitz-TR *calculated [17:08] schestowitz-TR he isa director (technical company, 3 masters degrees) [17:08] Techrights-sec Not a surprise. There is also "shrinkflation" at the same time which is hiding [17:08] Techrights-sec that the situation is even slightly worse than the official numbers. [17:08] Techrights-sec Excellent that he could advise. [17:10] schestowitz-TR inflation is not uniform and depends on people's spending habits [17:10] schestowitz-TR my friend just lost 150k [17:10] schestowitz-TR to a scam [17:10] schestowitz-TR and want to try to recover some [17:10] schestowitz-TR all his money [17:10] schestowitz-TR his home liquidated [17:10] Techrights-sec 150k ??? [17:10] Techrights-sec :( [17:12] schestowitz-TR crypto bros [17:12] schestowitz-TR got to his via microsoft linkedin [17:12] schestowitz-TR i am still learning more, lots of communication today [17:12] schestowitz-TR hence TR will be lower priority [17:12] schestowitz-TR you'd think a 59 yo lecturers would know better [17:12] schestowitz-TR turns out not [17:12] schestowitz-TR people want get-rich-fast schemes [17:13] Techrights-sec crypto XOR cryptocurrency? [17:13] Techrights-sec Crypto has been ok but cryprocurrency has been a scam since the beginning [17:13] Techrights-sec Back in 2009 ... [17:15] schestowitz-TR in 2022 "linux" also means cryptocranks [17:15] schestowitz-TR hyperledger etc. [17:15] schestowitz-TR "fintech" [17:15] schestowitz-TR banksters [17:15] schestowitz-TR the brand is without lustre anymore [17:15] schestowitz-TR sorry to think I spent my whole adult life promoiting this brand [17:15] schestowitz-TR now I focus on other terms [17:15] schestowitz-TR I also promotes the term "open source" for a long time [17:15] schestowitz-TR but sucvh is the nature of subversive tactics [17:15] schestowitz-TR hijacking wordsds [17:15] schestowitz-TR so you need to keep on moving [17:15] schestowitz-TR like switching from SUSE to somehting else [17:15] schestowitz-TR from SUSE lover and booster to leading a boycott [17:15] Techrights-sec ack [17:16] schestowitz-TR gay used to mean happy [17:16] schestowitz-TR linux used to imply freedom [17:16] schestowitz-TR freedom means libertarian now I think [17:16] schestowitz-TR so we need more clarity [17:16] schestowitz-TR tech authonomy [17:16] schestowitz-TR etc etc [17:17] schestowitz-TR we need to move with the times [17:17] schestowitz-TR the media changes the words [17:17] schestowitz-TR btw, my fridnd knew far too little about gates [17:17] schestowitz-TR I brought him up to date [17:17] schestowitz-TR he was in irc many times over the ywars, but not real name [17:22] Techrights-sec ack [17:22] Techrights-sec [17:22] Techrights-sec digital sovereignty ? [17:22] Techrights-sec It hurts cyber readiness that Gates' minions are in and out of DC more than [17:22] Techrights-sec Redmond even. [17:22] Techrights-sec Windows kills [17:22] schestowitz-TR i know someone who lost everything because of a microsoft linked scam - famous new words [17:22] schestowitz-TR *linkedin [17:22] schestowitz-TR rianne just saw the email [17:22] schestowitz-TR on the screen [17:22] schestowitz-TR post mortem [17:48] schestowitz-TR ---- [17:48] schestowitz-TR it's a crazy day here [17:48] schestowitz-TR but much being done at "personal life" level [17:48] schestowitz-TR not online [17:49] schestowitz-TR so bear with us, rianne will catch up with rss shorly [17:49] schestowitz-TR I will do videos before midnight [17:49] schestowitz-TR i still cannot digest the extent of the crypto scam [17:49] schestowitz-TR and ramifications [17:49] schestowitz-TR set aside the damage I'm told the jab did [17:49] schestowitz-TR but only off-the-recrod [17:49] schestowitz-TR because you get punished severely career-wise for talking about it [17:49] schestowitz-TR rianne says we learned a lot today [17:49] schestowitz-TR from her two referees [17:49] schestowitz-TR btw, the lasagna turned out to be very successful, about 7 servings already [17:49] schestowitz-TR along with chocolate cake ● Sep 24 [18:16] schestowitz-TR your recipe ;-) ● Sep 24 [19:01] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:03] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:16] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:17] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:20] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:23] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:57] chunky wonderful! ● Sep 24 [21:33] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@pg22z8ea8nzde.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [21:52] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) ● Sep 24 [22:22] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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If I disappear from the YT kingdom, I will be covertly releasing videos here..." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=WRhTZmGuFN0 [22:46] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | WTH YouTube? | Queen Wiciwici may be after me again! - Invidious [22:46] schestowitz-TR gulag vs linux channels [22:58] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Sep 24 [23:01] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@vryz9fzjqmc2k.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [23:57] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell